Uni or work? Sensible thread

[saxodan]

Right, been thinking about this a lot this week and still undecided

Uni is awesome, dont get me wrong, met so many people this week, been pissed every night and had a general amazing time...

but the degree im doing.. doesn't really tickle my fancy, admitidly I missed first lecture yesterday lol (business course)

When I think about it, I really want to work, just been speaking to learn direct on the phone, with my experience and quals I could be on 17-20k so im told.. and with the extra stuff I want to study part time (computing) I could be on a decent packet by my mid twenties, witch incidently I would be just a graduate by then on 17-20k...

Now, I was planning on only staying a year at uni, but now freshers week is over, people are starting to calm down and run out of money lol im considering looking for full time work..

Thing is though she said to do it NOW dont wait until xmas, I would of been out the game etc etc im doing updating my CV now and going to fire it of to a few places..

Question is do I go into full time work or stick it out here..

Undecided..

Sorry for long thread, advice appreciated from full time workers and students at uni.. no gay spam please

Dan

[David]

I was debating whether to go to Uni or stay in work the other day.... Not all too sure why, but work seemed the best option for me....

[Jacko]

i chose work...havent experienced uni though...

if you think you wont stick uni out and wont make the most of it..then start work for sure.

[Robb]

personally i dont think employers make as such a big deal of uni degrees as they used to. its only if you wanted to be a doctor and have medical degrees that it matters.

i would probably pie uni off, and run back home to mummy and daddy.

[Lee_P]

if i read right you will be on just as much now than you would if you went to uni then i would leave now and think of the money

by the way love the way you warn us that its a sensible thread

[saxodan]

personally i dont think employers make as such a big deal of uni degrees as they used to. its only if you wanted to be a doctor and have medical degrees that it matters.

i would probably pie uni off, and run back home to mummy and daddy.

Talking to my Dad the other day about it, he said im allways welcome home, but as I told myself, at 18 im leaving home lol either to uni or flat or house share with mates or own my own, wouldn't move back home now..

[mallboy]

i decided to go uni over work, in my last year and well worth it. allot of my friends dropped out and found it difficult to find jobs. it is totally up to you really but i would suggest doing the first year of uni - if its not for you then get a job;)

[Graeme]

why dont you try applying for the jobs you want now while your still a uni and then if you dont get a job you want you still have uni to fall back on??

[makaveli144]

i chose work,and now I have changed my mind and plan to go uni next year.

[saxodan]

why dont you try applying for the jobs you want now while your still a uni and then if you dont get a job you want you still have uni to fall back on??

Plan!!

Thing is im 350 mile from home, train is £40 cheapst lol

£40 to go to a few interviews is expensive, but I think thats what I'm going to do...

Want at least 16-17k before I leave uni I think, also not a fan of this student debt..

[Robbo]

apprentiship ftw

plumbing, electrician, joiner, tiffy even

thats where the money is ;)

guvvie jobs :)

[AdamW]

1 week into Uni and Dan is quiting......legend

[saxodan]

1 week into Uni and Dan is quiting......legend

week and a half lol

Well speaking to this women on the phone, she said there is no point delaying it if its what I want to do.. and to be fair it is, want to get out in industry and work, although student life does rock just a tad ;)

[AdamW]

Are you being bullied Dan? if you are there is people you can call....

[CloVis]

I dont think employers look so much on degrees nowadays either. Unless its practice or something. Most things go down to skills, but obviously nursing or midwiff you'd need uni ex?

[Tupps]

Are you being bullied Dan? if you are there is people you can call....

ahahaah

bad rep'd

[Kelly]

I can see where you're coming from and I sort of did the same. When I finished school I just wanted to get in to the world of work and have my own money, own independence etc.

Seemed a good idea at the time but 5 years down the line I regret not going to college and then uni. Who knows what I'd be doing now if I had. I know I wouldn't be sat in a dead end job arsing about on sax-p all day ;)

You might regret it in a few years time but just go with what makes you happy :y:

[Jacko]

without a degree/qualifications...you start at the bottom of your specified field...maybe something to think about?

[Kelly]

without a degree/qualifications...you start at the bottom of your specified field...maybe something to think about?

yeah and with qualifications you start higher up right?

either way you gotta look at the long and short of it... debt while at uni or work your way up to where you might be if you'd done uni and got the job.

personally, i'd go for the money option but that's cos am a greedy little money grabber :p

[seat-craig]

stay at uni even know i am on 32k ote(if i hit my target) at 18 years old its shit

[LittleDude101]

imo if you feel this way about uni already, you wont put full effort into it throughout the year.

I decided to go straight to work. I had enough of education. I went to college for two years and that was pretty much like uni, so I was told. I didnt want to get myself in a position where I will go uni for three years, get in debt, just to come out paying off debt in the same job I would have done anyway...

But also, tbh, When I started college, the 1st month I hated it, then loved it... but a lot of the time I didnt want to be there as I knew I could be making money.

Its good to get the qualification if you know it will help you in the future. But im my experiences, companies go for people with experience, not qualifications

[Clouds_mate]

As i said last year to you dan when we had one of our many convos over evo...

Uni pretty much means nothing from my experiance. my first job i was 17 earning 15k a year, the lads and lasses who i was working with had been to uni was 23+ all of them on 15k. At my current place, people been to uni and i havnt yet i earn more then some of them and the same as others.

You say you wanted to live the student life... (beer wise) I can do that now, i would rather go into town with a wedge in my pocket in smart clothes and feel good then go into a student bar scraping a pint of cheap lager in un ironed clothes and starving because i havnt had a proper meal in ages.

I said from day one to get into work as you already had your foot in the door way. Now if you choose to leave you have to get back onto the ladder and the IT one isnt easy at all. Plus you left uni after 2 weeks that will be questionable.

live like a dosser and not work or.... 3-4 holidays a year, always have money in your pocket and a nice wardrobe. I kno which i would prefer

[LittleDude101]

As i said last year to you dan when we had one of our many convos over evo...

Uni pretty much means nothing from my experiance. my first job i was 17 earning 15k a year, the lads and lasses who i was working with had been to uni was 23+ all of them on 15k. At my current place, people been to uni and i havnt yet i earn more then some of them and the same as others.

You say you wanted to live the student life... (beer wise) I can do that now, i would rather go into town with a wedge in my pocket in smart clothes and feel good then go into a student bar scraping a pint of cheap lager in un ironed clothes and starving because i havnt had a proper meal in ages.

I said from day one to get into work as you already had your foot in the door way. Now if you choose to leave you have to get back onto the ladder and the IT one isnt easy at all. Plus you left uni after 2 weeks that will be questionable.

live like a dosser and not work or.... 3-4 holidays a year, always have money in your pocket and a nice wardrobe. I kno which i would prefer

have to agree with the student life bit... Ive got a few mates that are still at uni... they are all skint, when home cant really afford to go into town or anything... and im sitting back with money in my pocket.

And as for work - At my old job, I was youngest on the team, had the least quali's yet was still on the same money, and after 2months, I ended up being in charge of them... :afro:

[leeroybrown]

Leckie = Man of wise words!

[Ryan]

I chose work im now 22 and starting uni lol.

[LittleDude101]

at the end of the day... If you do drop out of uni and go to work... If you want to further your education, theres always those home learning courses... Some companies even pay you to do it.

[flee123]

I did my first year at uni last year, wasn't really sure what to expect. At the end of the year I had lost interest in the course and was pretty sick of being inside education. I've sat behind a desk my whole life. Got an interview tomorrow for a plumbing apprenticeship and can't wait. Hope I get it!

All I can say is try it mate, stick it out and then make your decision, even if it's just for another couple of months. At least then you van say you have been and you gave it a go.

Nowadays I dont think uni is such a big deal, there are plenty of other ways to make good money and get decent jobs. Anything to do with property or maintenance is the way to go at the mo.

[Kelly]

stay at uni even know i am on 32k ote(if i hit my target) at 18 years old its shit

You think an ote of 32 grand at 18 is shit... you're either on drugs on majorly in debt ;)

Obviously a sales job yes?

[Hopcraft]

definally uni, ive took year out between a levels and uni, and i really cant get a job any where, im stuck in a shit warehouse, uni makes life so much easier.

I can debate about this allllday.

Your working for a good 40 years of your life, you might as well go uni for 3 years of it, have a good time, get good quals etc, whats the rush tbh.

Also so many more jobs available to grads, that will be what you wanna do, as if you worked yourself up then you might get bored of that same company and leave it with jack shit, and you've just wasted all that time working your self up.. i can rant on but..

UNI FTW.

[Hopcraft]

As i said last year to you dan when we had one of our many convos over evo...

Uni pretty much means nothing from my experiance. my first job i was 17 earning 15k a year, the lads and lasses who i was working with had been to uni was 23+ all of them on 15k. At my current place, people been to uni and i havnt yet i earn more then some of them and the same as others.


i think you just got lucky, its not easy to go into a job at 15 k a year, what you say is true for you, yes. But its not as easy as that ! Probably only 5% of 17 year olds get into a good job like you from day one. Other than that, ill agree with you.

And also another thing, most uni grads get in a job with more money than 15k, thats poor if you ask me, so in a way, your comparing, some one whos very lucky with finding a job at 15k and some one whos graduated and are very unlucky to find a 15k job.

[Agent-VIP]

TBH. I would have LOVED to have gone to uni. I don't see why you'd pass off a fantastic time (which is why i wanted to go) and come out with chances of getting a MUCH higher paid job

Why do you want to quit? Geta job.. for the money? You're only going to waste that on house.. shit anway.. so after your 3 years.. you'll be in the same position as you would have been without going to university.. money wise.

[LittleDude101]

TBH. I would have LOVED to have gone to uni. I don't see why you'd pass off a fantastic time (which is why i wanted to go) and come out with chances of getting a MUCH higher paid job

Why do you want to quit? Geta job.. for the money? You're only going to waste that on house.. shit anway.. so after your 3 years.. you'll be in the same position as you would have been without going to university.. money wise.

i tend to disagree with that. Uni brings on so many debts, its shocking. Just because you have been to uni doesnt mean you will get a better paid job, just looks a little bit better on a CV. You say waste money on a house... Owning a property is a great thing to have to your name... Having uni debts wont help get a property after and could worsen your chances. The money you spend at uni could be saved up if you were to be in a full time job, and imo you would be better off. Two of my mates have dropped out of uni as they simply couldnt afford it

[seat-craig]

You think an ote of 32 grand at 18 is shit... you're either on drugs on majorly in debt ;)

Obviously a sales job yes?

yes as i said if i hit my target

[mintminton]

If you find a job for 17k with just A-levels or GNVQ's i will be very surprised mate!
Just think what you really want to do mate, loads of people would love to have the opportunity to go to university. You've got plenty of time to make money!.
I finished college last year and had a year out earning 13k a year. Thought that was what i wanted, the money was great but the job i was in, i just couldn't see myself doing it for the next 40 years! so i decided to apply to uni, im only doing a HND but it's alot better than the a-levels i have also it's only a two year course so if i want to leave i can, with a better qualification i went in with or i can stay on and upgrade it to a degree. You don't need a degree to get a good career, of course you don't but it gives you alot more opportunities!
As for the student loans, you only pay like £20 back a month. It's hardly worth worrying about!

[Hopcraft]

Just because you have been to uni doesnt mean you will get a better paid job, just looks a little bit better on a CV.

lol, a bit better on cv. i think its a little more than that. and yes you will get a better paid job if you look properly, better than if you didnt go as a lot of employers nowadays are looking for graduates. Hence making school kids staying until they are 18 (if they bring it in), then that gives them much better chances of going uni.

[Barry123]

dan I'd stick with uni but do a proper course (not business)

every kid has a business degree... me and my engineering homies are doing a final year business module at the moment called 'business strategy'.

no offence but for final year i was expecting something slightly more challenging than gcse level business studies.

For the last 4 weeks the lecturer has stated
'the prime strategy for a company is too make a profit'
no fucking wonder business graduates get crap pay when they come out if thats the detail they learn at the end of their course.

on the other hand if i get a graduate engineering job i will 100% get £25k minimum.

one of my friends bagged a contractor job paying around £42k a year... and he only got a 2.2 BEng
my other friend got a job with Toyota F1 paying £35k a year.

A degree is defo worth it providing you do a decent one.

and dont think just because fresher week is over the fun just stops ;)

[Scattle]

Stay at uni tbh, my course is 3 days a week,(bsc computer science) and i work the other 2, its really up to you and you like the course your doing.

[saxodan]

Stay at uni tbh, my course is 3 days a week,(bsc computer science) and i work the other 2, its really up to you and you like the course your doing.

Same, but I will be working 3 day a week

I mean I will be 19 in less than 2 weeks!

Thats getting old lol Minght be time to get some money behind me you know.

Women says I have a good cv, lots of quals and excellent experience for my age, I could be on a very nice wage for my age.

Think im going to stay untill xmas though, have a few more parties and such :wink: then see where we go from there..

Dan

[LittleDude101]

Same, but I will be working 3 day a week

I mean I will be 19 in less than 2 weeks!

Thats getting old lol Minght be time to get some money behind me you know.

Women says I have a good cv, lots of quals and excellent experience for my age, I could be on a very nice wage for my age.

Think im going to stay untill xmas though, have a few more parties and such :wink: then see where we go from there..

Dan

gives you time to give it a proper chance aswell :y:

Im 19, and on wicked money :drink:

[BenSilverSaxo]

Do a course that has a niche, that way you go straight into a job on big money. Ive done two years at uni and have just started a placement year, im on 17k. Uni life is amazing, its just a holiday for three years. Ive met loads of new people etc. Stay at uni but change your course, if you ask im sure they will allow you too.

[potatopete]

Check out the Jobs section in some of the "proper" newspapers - the nationals, like The Times etc. You'll see that the decent jobs advertised almost always are looking for candidates with a degree.

They're the sort of jobs that pay £30k and upwards. You'll never earn that sort of money without a degree or some very niche quals/experience.

[Amiee]

To be honest id look at it the way i did, do i go uni piss about for the next 4-5 years or find a job and get nice stuff and work myself up untill im at where i want to be.

I was going through the "OMG I should have gone to uni" last week when all my friends were leaving but im soooo glad i didnt because im at more of an advantage as they are right now!

Im good wages, buying a house and still have a car no debt as of yet ect and things will only improve! Where as uni i would drink the loans away and get into debt have nothing to my name and prob end up selling the car to pay for more drink lol


Just depends on what you aim to achieve in the future and what you want how fast you want it basically. And if you will also waste your time at uni.

[Barry123]

I think saying that uni is a waste of time is a bit strong.

In the long run I'll have a lot more money than most... sounds arrogant but its the truth.

[BenSilverSaxo]

I think saying that uni is a waste of time is a bit strong.



In the long run I'll have a lot more money than most... sounds arrogant but its the truth.

Amen to that

[Barry123]

*high five ben*

what course is it again you're doing dude?

[ryhornvtr]

I would say stick with uni, it should pay off in the future.

Ads im offended at your comments, im doing a BA Hons degree in business management.

[Amiee]

I dint say uni is a waste of time boys..(Its not at all for those who attend, if thats what you want to do its a huge commitment tbh)

lol tuts ads for taking my words out of context, i said is he will be wasting his time at uni, what i meant was if hes not going to get on and actually do anything.. the boys already missed his 1st lecture lol

[xsmile_be_happyx]

I would say do whatever makes you happiest, dont always think of the money, cause either way, you can lose it or gain it just as much.

My friends just been at uni for 2 weeks, and she hates her course, and ive told her to keep trying and give it a chance, but if it wasnt for her, then i would support her on that

I agree with ads, i dont think uni is a waste of time, ive been there 2 years now, and my course aint like most courses, when you lot get holidays throughtout the whole summer, im still at uni and in placement, its hard work, its not easy, but at the end of the day, im gonna have a degree when i come out of it, theres days when i think, this isnt for me anymore, but ive put to much into it now, to give up!

Go for whatever makes you happy

[BenSilverSaxo]

*high five ben*

what course is it again you're doing dude?

Logistics

[Dave86]

I tried my hand at college not so long ago, only to discover it really wasnt what i wanted. So back to being a joiner me thinks, but maybe advance in that ie. estimator or quantity surveyor perhaps! So many options

[Mrk1]

I reckon its just a case of weighing up your options..

You will be working for over 40 years of life do you really need to start right now?
Isn't Uni worth it just for the unique experience?
Are you going waste your time at uni and decide to drop out eventually anyway?

Sounds a bit stupid but you might want to make a list of pros and cons for each and see which comes out on top.

Either way you got to work out whats going to suit you best in the long run i.e career wise.

[BenSilverSaxo]

Go to the careers service at uni tommorrow they will either sort your course out or find you a job, its a win win situation.

[nathb84]

I personally feel uni is the better option, it will give you an extra edge with employers, however everyone is different and im a student so i am biased, lol.

[saxodan]

Check out the Jobs section in some of the "proper" newspapers - the nationals, like The Times etc. You'll see that the decent jobs advertised almost always are looking for candidates with a degree.

They're the sort of jobs that pay £30k and upwards. You'll never earn that sort of money without a degree or some very niche quals/experience.

If i mentioned I was studying for my A+ currently, plan to do a CCNA maybe an MSCE.. you wouldent know what I mean ;) if i do leave i know exaclly what I want to do and how to get there buddy

I think it may be to late to change courses????

P.s leckie, very wise words..

Think im going to fire of cv, see how it goes between interviews and uni..

may aswell give the course a shot (plus there is a couple of ace uni nights out soon i cant miss lol)

[saxodan]

dan I'd stick with uni but do a proper course (not business)

every kid has a business degree... me and my engineering homies are doing a final year business module at the moment called 'business strategy'.

no offence but for final year i was expecting something slightly more challenging than gcse level business studies.

For the last 4 weeks the lecturer has stated
'the prime strategy for a company is too make a profit'
no fucking wonder business graduates get crap pay when they come out if thats the detail they learn at the end of their course.

on the other hand if i get a graduate engineering job i will 100% get £25k minimum.

one of my friends bagged a contractor job paying around £42k a year... and he only got a 2.2 BEng
my other friend got a job with Toyota F1 paying £35k a year.

A degree is defo worth it providing you do a decent one.

and dont think just because fresher week is over the fun just stops ;)

Again greta adivce!

repped everyone I can lol

think I will draw up a pros and cons list as suggested up above!

[Jazz]

Tough choice mate, I'm at Uni, 2nd year at Surrey, its nice to be a part of the university society, and employers do like a nice degree on your CV. But yeah, do whats best for you, if you can land a good job now and be happy thats what you want to do, then sieze it. Otherwise, I'd say give Uni a go, if you can see it through, you'll have massive self-satisfaction that you've achieved something. :)

[harrisvtrkid1]

Depends on what you want to do in life, if you have a career plan or not. A degree is a degree, it doesn't show experience but the level of thinking you have. But on the otherhand the exeprience and practical skills you have also count for a lot. Doing a business course, i assume you are business minded, either entraprenour or focused on working in a business. You need to decide which area you want to pursue, either learn a trade and then go into business, or study business in depth and get a job and some experience before starting your own.

Im in the same situation. My aim is to work in all different areas, customer services - customer approach, now i got a job telesales and buying and selling. I am doing my business management degree also, and then i will look to do both and then aim to start my own business.

Also, with so many people getting degrees now its going to be an ultra competitive getting a job in 10years or so, so to be on the same level in an interview will see you in good stead, than someone who doesnt and is already lower to start with.

[Leo]

I choose work also, id much prefer a good trade than sitting in a office/messing with numbers after years of uni. Ok you might not earn as much but at least you're a working man.

Ive known a few people who went/go to uni and alot of them come out and dont even use what they got out of it, or have a change of heart or whatever. and theres loads who just get in debt with a student loan etc.

thats just my opinion tho, obviosly some people go to uni for a few years then are earning masive bucks.

[saxodan]

I choose work also, id much prefer a good trade than sitting in a office/messing with numbers after years of uni. Ok you might not earn as much but at least you're a working man.

Ive known a few people who went/go to uni and alot of them come out and dont even use what they got out of it, or have a change of heart or whatever. and theres loads who just get in debt with a student loan etc.

thats just my opinion tho, obviosly some people go to uni for a few years then are earning masive bucks.

lol at the working man thing

all my mates who went into the building trade say that, but its not my thing, sparky maybe but im to late in life to think about that, im either doing a degree or going into a computing job..

looking at maybe trasnfering to a 2 year computing networking course...

hmmm

will speak to the addmisions people tommorow

[Barry123]

Tough choice mate, I'm at Uni, 2nd year at Surrey, its nice to be a part of the university society, and employers do like a nice degree on your CV. But yeah, do whats best for you, if you can land a good job now and be happy thats what you want to do, then sieze it. Otherwise, I'd say give Uni a go, if you can see it through, you'll have massive self-satisfaction that you've achieved something. :)

:omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg:

you're at the same uni as me dude.

rock on

[Leo]

lol at the working man thing

all my mates who went into the building trade say that, but its not my thing, sparky maybe but im to late in life to think about that, im either doing a degree or going into a computing job..

looking at maybe trasnfering to a 2 year computing networking course...

hmmm

will speak to the addmisions people tommorow

hehe, well you know what i mean.. no way too late my bros 28 was a head chef at some fansy restraunt in london got bored of it and hes now bacame a qualified plumber, and corgi trained/registered whatever it is.

also got few mates in simalar trades, mate does working away as a groundsman hes on £20 a hour. another mate does crane driving i think thats simalr pay probs bit more £25 a hour or something.


all depends what you want to do i surpose, i used to do computer programming and got to a good level, was deep into assembler at one point but just cant be doing with sitting at a computer, feel much better grafting type work but thats just how i am, as said whatever gives you that good feeloing go for it fuck what others think.

[JoeFurio]

im wondering the same thing sort of dan :S

going to stay at uni for a while first tho, and i have no idea what work id go into!

[Barry123]

lads. i'll be honest... I'm nearing the end and I have even less idea of what i want to do in life than when i started.

but the beauty of it is, the course opens up so many more opportunities, I can go into practically anything (except medicine).

Uni has been the greatest time of my life... not only have I learnt a lot academically but also about money, getting about in life as well as developing my interpersonal and spamming skillz.

[adamsax]

I'm gonna echo the words of adsayer. As long as you're not doing a generic degree you stand a very good chance of coming out on a very nice starting wage. I'm currently on my 3rd year of a 4 year Forensics course. I know it's a saught-after qualification too have (even though it's hard as fcuk too get into) and I've recently decided that even with my degree I'm still gonna join the police after uni (from that I mean from the bottom up). I'm also lucky enough too have a very good 'student' job as a supervisor at a lloyds bar and bring in pretty good money considering im in full time education. Everyone's different mate. I'd rather have a degree too fall back on. That or a trade. It's a tough decision mate.

[saxodan]

Sat through my firts business lecture, thought fuck this, cant do this for 3 years then base a career on a subject i dont enjoy!

walked out, went to my tutor and asked how to get on a computing course

addmissions said no.. went to course leader, got an appointment at 2 to see him.

If I cant get on a computing course.. im going to start looking for workies

[AdamW]

I find you hilarious Dan.......role model tbh

[R4T]

definately working,you will gain better experience from being in a job,uni is a bit of paper at the end,fair enough the qualifications are good at the end,but ive always though hands on experience cant be beaten!!

[djrem]

Ive just spent 2 years at a job.

I handed in my resignation monday morning.
Ive now spent time ringing around universities.

TBH, i wished i had gone through my A levels and then straight to uni.

Work makes you lazy.

[furioAL]

Sat through my firts business lecture, thought fuck this, cant do this for 3 years then base a career on a subject i dont enjoy!

walked out, went to my tutor and asked how to get on a computing course

addmissions said no.. went to course leader, got an appointment at 2 to see him.

If I cant get on a computing course.. im going to start looking for workies

How can you judge a course by the first lecture?

I've just started my official lectures at uni.. and i definately know this is where im meant to be... alcohol.. ladies... and getting to cut up dead people.... what more could a man want?

Uni ftw!

:)

[adamsax]

How can you judge a course by the first lecture?

I've just started my official lectures at uni.. and i definately know this is where im meant to be... alcohol.. ladies... and getting to cut up dead people.... what more could a man want?

Uni ftw!

:)

What course are you doing mate? And where?

[Barry123]

definately working,you will gain better experience from being in a job,uni is a bit of paper at the end,fair enough the qualifications are good at the end,but ive always though hands on experience cant be beaten!!

or.... do a placement year/sandwich course... :cool:


How can you judge a course by the first lecture?

I've just started my official lectures at uni.. and i definately know this is where im meant to be... alcohol.. ladies... and getting to cut up dead people.... what more could a man want?

Uni ftw!

:)

Glad uni is going well for you man. keep us posted on how it goes :y:

[furioAL]

What course are you doing mate? And where?

Im at Keele University (between manchester & birmingham) studying medicine...

It officially owns! :y:

Alex
:)

[saxodan]

got the choice to study a HND inm computing... fuck that
BA (hons) witch I chose :) or forensic computing.. but that didnt intrest me that much for the type of computing I want to do (networking and security)

woop

plus I get fridays of now too

3 day weekend ftw

[AdamW]

Quit.....get back to serving petrol....its in your blood

[saxodan]

Quit.....get back to serving petrol....its in your blood

stay in wales working as an apprentice for a shitty firm on doss wages surfing the internet all day making up sarcy comments, then go home to your mothers house, wank yourself to sleep, get up the next day and repeat... oh wait?

only kidding

[AdamW]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooo

[saxodan]

nuff said

thread closed....

[AdamW]

Could always go to Uni and do Computing...then finish the course and go back to the same job you had in IT.......loving the 20grand debt you got in aswell...

[saxodan]

Could always go to Uni and do Computing...then finish the course and go back to the same job you had in IT.......loving the 20grand debt you got in aswell...

Name Adam Watkins
Position CAD Technician
Date of Birth 1985
Information Adam is our newest recruit joining us after completing his CAD course at Coleg Powys. He joined in March 2004 and shall be undertaking further training with us at (edited name as im not a cunt)


wow... now thats something id aspire too ;)

[AdamW]

Sure beats doing a course I dont wanna do

edit- date of birth is also wrong......

[saxodan]

Sure beats doing a course I dont wanna do

edit- date of birth is also wrong......

Company website could do with updating then :wink:

Anyway thats the end of that :)

[JoeFurio]

adam have you really got a turbo furio?

[AdamW]

No, its an inside joke....

Also Dan...how the hell did you know where I work

[Clouds_mate]

Dan - for some reason you seem to think you going to walk into an IT job on a good wage....why?

[saxodan]

No, its an inside joke....

Also Dan...how the hell did you know where I work

Do a uni course, get a proper education, its amazing what you can do with computers :wink:

jokes aside, I love you adam, lets never fight agian

Dan - for some reason you seem to think you going to walk into an IT job on a good wage....why?

I didn't mean to sound over confident/cocky honest

Been speaking to a few companys, been offerd interviews.. got experience for my age in IT and also got a few Quals un the belt and more to come.. e.g. cisco etc etc

[Barry123]

handbags out.

uni pwns end of.

dan im lost... are you on another course?

[Clouds_mate]

You do sound Cocky tho thats the problem mate.

Its not as easy as it sounds. If you been offered interviews you should of taken them for experience.

Trust me, Iv got 20 lads behind me (whey) that are trying for interviews. Alot of people apply for jobs mate. If your not on the ladder its very very hard to get the first job.

[saxodan]

handbags out.

uni pwns end of.

dan im lost... are you on another course?

yeah, admissions kicked up a stink, so went to course leader, he pulled a few strings and wallop i start tommorow with introduction to databses lol

few forms to fill in but its all good

was a tough choice between forensics and general computing, but think I made the right choice lol

[Barry123]

well good luck and hope you stay on the course longer than the last one.


on a serious note I dont think I have enjoyed a single module from my course... just got to hold in there tbh.

[saxodan]

You do sound Cocky tho thats the problem mate.

Its not as easy as it sounds. If you been offered interviews you should of taken them for experience.

Trust me, Iv got 20 lads behind me (whey) that are trying for interviews. Alot of people apply for jobs mate. If your not on the ladder its very very hard to get the first job.

True..

Minght see what ones like then?

I was on the ladder with that IT support I was doing over summer though

but general helpdesk traning jobs round my way recruit college leavers on 16-17k

[Clouds_mate]

True..

Minght see what ones like then?

I was on the ladder with that IT support I was doing over summer though

but general helpdesk traning jobs round my way recruit college leavers on 16-17k

Been the main problem. Guy i work with 'alpha male' worked for IBM doing third line support at £27k a year. They lost the contract, He then went to work for BT doing noting IT related.

Hes now taken a cut to £15k just to get back into IT as no-one would touch him as he wasnt working in IT.

[saxodan]

Been the main problem. Guy i work with 'alpha male' worked for IBM doing third line support at £27k a year. They lost the contract, He then went to work for BT doing noting IT related.

Hes now taken a cut to £15k just to get back into IT as no-one would touch him as he wasnt working in IT.

Suppose suppose, well shall be home for a few weekends and that will see if I can get some interviews, see what im like, saw a notice again for some part time IT stuff here.. so will have a lookey

[Clouds_mate]

go for it mate, You might do it easy as its pretty much pot luck. Then think i was bullshiting. But im sure they are a few people on this site who can back up me regarding getting jobs in IT. Everyman and his dog applys for them thinking because they know how to do XYZ they can support. Isnt the case. But its people like that that mess up the chances as others.

[Hopcraft]

i would never do a course i didnt enjoy, its good to see you've changed.

Its probably the worse thing you can do too, carrying on with something you dont enjoy, (lecturers words).

[stevenet15]

i only went to uni because i got paid £220 a week to go there, plus had a company car and lived in a hotel all paid for, plus the course was £35,000 a year which again was paid for by mercedes benz but i had to sign a form declaring that after i got my qualifications that i had to work for them for a set time after seen as they paid for everything

[Brooksy]

hmm.. i have or had mixed views on this...
im currently in my last year at uni. In my first year at uni was shat! not social part of it but course itself. didnt think i was getting anywhere and knew everything they had to offer me. so basically i wa slooking at leaving and going full time. didnt help that all my mates never went on to full time education. they got jobs not nice ones but full time at places etc. but put pressure becaus i wanted to afford stuff they could buy but i cudnt due to fees and being a student.
then my second year improved dramatically over the 2nd year learning new stuff etc.
As for you we cant make the choice for you, do what you feel is right for you. but then again will u go on later thinking what happened if i stayed at uni and i gained that extra qualification. might help you out at sometime in life.
You have something to you name with a degree. where as full times gain first hand experience. but when it comes down to being 30yrs old maybe have to look for a new job. some1 with 1st hand experience since 18yrs old. or some1 who has a degree coming out, then having first hand experience in that line of job til age of 30. they'd pick the person with the degree. (most times)
just an extra factor of proof your good at something.Being best of the best.

Money wise... it can be anythign down to luck or how good you are. Ive known people in my course to come out with a good degree and hit the margin of earning 30k plus at the age of 22/23.
I'd suspect something to do with business and in the right field coming out witha good degree or whatever i think you'd end up in the high end of that 17-22k.
Just gotta balance out debts, and lifestyle. when your at uni youc ant settle down either with a person. well not that easy to anyway. when ur full time working at young age you tend to have nothign else to chase. after you got the car, the house or flat with good mates. you look for next thing which is family. ;) fact that people who start full time, build families at younger age than people coming out of uni. (tends to be anyway, bar few stats)
hope some of this helped! :)

[seat-craig]

dan i know a couple of people in it recruitment i will speak to them. what degree you doing i will ask how much graduates get

[Jazz]

:omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg:

you're at the same uni as me dude.

rock on

Really dude?? You must have seen me a few times, I'm the stud who comes into the main car park each morning with my red VTS shaking with bass lol! :P

[Barry123]

Really dude?? You must have seen me a few times, I'm the stud who comes into the main car park each morning with my red VTS shaking with bass lol! :P

...And you must have seen me man. I'm the legend that vastly improves the look of the car park next to the gym.

cant quite say I've seen you dude, but I've defo seen a red vts... down 60mm is it?

I'll keep an eye out and say hello if i recognise you (well your car as i dont have a clue what you look like)

[Mr_Willy]

i had same choice, chose work earn some money, dont be a tax dodger lol :)

[Ryan]

i had same choice, chose work earn some money, dont be a tax dodger lol :)

do you work in the oil industry??? as thats one hell of a dredge.

[Danr]

Ollld thread.