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palmbay
30th October 2007, 18:56
I have recently changed my front wheel bearings as the car failed the MOT due to a "bit of a rumble" when the wheel was spun, to my mind there was nothing wrong with them, but a fail is a fail. Bit of a struggle with me trusty lump hammer and large 3/4" drive socket to drive them out with, but, bought some new SKF bearings and fitted ok. A few miles later the rumble returned with a vengence, so bad I had to get the RAC out to tow me home, I ended up changing out the 2 drive shafts and renewed the vented discs and antiroll link arms for good measure, no more rumble. (Then the idle stepper motor went, but that's another story, cutting out at junctions and revving too high!)
A couple of hundred miles later I just happened to check the new wheel bearings and the near side was flapping about with so much freeplay it wasn't true. I stripped it down again and took the bearing back to the motorfactors. It is a twin ball roller and has no pre-tension as such, it fits snuggly inside the hub and is secured with a large circlip. The inner roller cage had collapsed for no apparent reason.
They renewed it, no probs, refitted, all sweet as, until I checked them today, again after a couple of hundred miles they have gone again, same thing, inner race collapsed, this time on both bearings, as if too much upward force from the wheel itself.
This time, I know it is not the bearings at fault this time, but some other factor that is causing them to collapse. The hubs are the same, the old bearings were ok for many thousands of miles prior to the MOT, now this... Has anyone else had any problems along these lines, I have racked my brain. The Motor factors did say that the new disks should have been solid 4 stud, mine are vented, also the drive shaft doesn't appear to come as far through as it should making me think that they have been possibly upgraded as the calipers fit perfectly. Also all ball joints line up perfectly and have no freeplay.
Any ideas gratefully accepted.

MaRiO89
30th October 2007, 19:00
Is it a westcoast?

I ask this as they share some parts with the VT models, like brakes etc and the motorfactors may have given you the 1.4 parts from models such as the VSX which doesn's share the same parts as the VT models..

This is annoying, i'm always being given wrong things when asking for Saxo 1.4 parts, always end up having VT parts in the end which fit fine..

palmbay
31st October 2007, 18:07
Hi James,
Yes it is a Westcoast 1.4. I checked with the motorfactors and the bearings are the same. They said they sell hundreds of this type and have had no problems. What puzzles me is what has changed from the ones I originally took out, which had no problems, to fitting these, which look exactly the same. I am sure something is amiss as the driveshafts do not clear the hub nuts, approx 10mm short. the motor factors also said that some saxo's had vented disks and some didn't. They also tell me that the 1.6 hubs are larger so the bearings wouldn't have fitted anway. Still stumped...........

MaRiO89
31st October 2007, 18:12
Models below the 1.4 westcoast had solid discs, the models above had vented ones..

I'm stumped aswell, lol...

Hopefully someone with more knowledge will be able to help you..

:d

palmbay
7th November 2007, 23:27
At last, I have solved the puzzle. It would appear that my Saxo is one of the first Mk2 versions. The Mk2 drive shafts are slightly longer and more importantly have a conical inner face which sits in the hub, which the Mk1 does not have. When the Mk1 drive shaft is fitted to a Mk2 hub, the outer edge of the CV joint hits directly on the bearing inner face leaving a gap between the inner hub splined edge and the drive shaft allowing the hub to work up and down as it is unsecured. In a very short space of time the wheel bearing collapses, which mine did. I have taken a couple of pics to show the difference in the shafts and will upload when I have managed to upload to photo bucket. Oh, by the way, the motor factors that supplied the mk1 drive shafts replaced them and the wheel bearings free of charge, nice result, many thanks AJ Motors of Broadstairs, Kent.

MaRiO89
8th November 2007, 00:16
Glad its sorted..:d