Rear lowering....

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After years of saying! I will never lower my car i like the standard ride and not having to slow to much for speed bumps.... Its time to lower the car! Going to start of with the springs and lowering the torsion bar and then change the dampers to some nice Bilstein ones! Decided i want the front no more than 30mm so going for H & R springs! and i dont want the back to low! Not to 50mm anyway but i was told and have read then you can only drop the back in increments of 25mm! Is this true or can i lower is say 30-40mm? Sorry if im repeating a thread which i probably am but i couldnt find anything!

REP given for the help :y:

[Hopcraft]

no lowering like how you are thinking is called clicks, this however is the WRONG way, and you should do it me measuring and replacing the torsion bar, so you can lower the back with increacments of 1mm !! if you going 30mm on the front then do the back 35-40mm in my opinion !

by the way, 30mm isnt that low, and you should have not trouble with anything tbh, just like have 2 people in the back all the while, lol.

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Replace the torsion bar? Where can i find a replacement and how much? x

[bear_westy]

nonono not replace it...

1. take it out

2. move the hub to the desired height

3. replace... (ie) put the torsion bar back in and the hub will stay at that height..

very simplified version of event but you get the jist, get some one who knows how to do it to do it

[The_Notorious_C_A_T]

Only way I know how to do it is the proper way. How do you do it the "click" way?

Me and a mate lowered my car this weekend, it's awkward to say the least. Although he did most of the work like. Credit where it's due!

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Going to do it myself just needed to know the right method!

So its this...

http://www.badgermotorsport.co.uk/lowering.htm

Not this...

http://www.suzukituning.com/PSA/Suspension/Lowering.htm#

?

Thanks!

BTW rep left for you both!

[Hopcraft]

they are both the right way ! i dont actually know how to do it by the click/notches method to be honest.

i think the suzuki one explains it a bit better though.

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The suzuki one can only like the car by notches of about 25mm its says so i think thats the notching method! Ill do it the badger sport way when i get springs as i want 40mm on the rear not 50mm!

[RICKYP-RPM]

they are both the same way of doing it, all you need to do is once the torsion bar is removed lift your radius arm (the bit the brakes are fixed to) to your desired height and then push the torsion bar back in. you will probably need to turn the torsion bar to get it to line back up again. (if not you will damage the splines) then do the same on the other side.
if you have any trouble let me know and i'll try and help.

[qrty]

No there not! The badgersport one you take out the torsion bars and the ARB the suzuki tuning you dont, you just take out the torsion bars! So how is that the same?

[RICKYP-RPM]

ok if you know so much do it your self and stop asking for advice

[RICKYP-RPM]

the suzuki one they remove the arb retaining bolts and twist it round to gain access to the o/s torsion bar, the badger one they remove it to gain access.
either way they both remove the torsion bar from the arm and axle and not just knock the arm off the bar.
but you obviusly knew that already and thats why you posted this?

[Hopcraft]

totally agree ricky !

qrty dont dig holes.

[The_Notorious_C_A_T]

They are the same as has been said.

Both take out the bars and reset the level then put them back in.

Not once does it mention 25mm "notches" or set increments

[qrty]

I was asking which way is right as i dont know! They are different badger sport you take the ARB out you cant just rotate it as it has teeth and suzuki you just undo the ARB cover! They both take the torsion bars out! I just want to know which one is the right way!

And it does mention notches!

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/drqrty/yup.jpg

The torsion bar is out...and the left suspension arm has free movement! Person #2 hold the suspension arm on the desired height. (for 4cm lowring that will be 21cm!). The arm will be rotated about 2 theeth! Hit the torsion bar back... Be carefull not to kill the teeth of the torsion bar! Put the washer back, tighten the Torx T40 bolt, and fasten the damper again.

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All i want to know is which way to do it im not argueeing and saying i know because im admitting i dont! Just please tell me which is the correct method as i can see differences! Thanks :)

[The_Notorious_C_A_T]

Take off the axle. Makes it alot easier to gain access to the bars. Just to throw another option in there.

Fair enough, I suppose teeth can be construed as notches though. But since the bars are out of the splines, it's really just to get them to match the splines.

Theres a more in depth guide on the rallye register by Sandy, have a look at that as well.

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Haha cheers youre just trying to confuse me now arent you :P lol Ill have a look now! thanks for the help not argueeing by the way! :)

[The_Notorious_C_A_T]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108027&highlight=lowering+torsion+bar

found it! 3rd link down is Sandy's guide. Although have a read of them all, lots of good info there.
Steve from on here is making a guide with pics. His guides are good the ones I have seen.

No worries mate, debating stuff is good as long as no ones a keyboard warrior! :)

Good luck with the lowering though.

[qrty]

Cheers in going to go for the badgersport way and do the rear 35mm and then put the H&R -30mm springs in the front!

[L33h]

LMFAO i wish it was as easy 2 lower as all of u are saying, ive been on for weeks doing mine and ive had 2 buy a new ewar axle, bray the torsion bars out with a sledge hammer, yes a sledge hammer and it still took 3 hours... the front springs i dropped gearbox oil out coz of the driveshafts. and today ive gota swap the axles and hubs roundwhich mans bleeding the brakes etc etc etc.. go 2 a garage 2 get it lowered :)

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Tbf not everyone has that problem! alot of the time depends on age and mileage and condition of the car! As newer cars are less likely to have seized parts if there kept in good nick! Decided not to lower anyway due to insurance but was going to have a bash! lol Cheers anyway REP left too!