S2 Gearbox

[Steve]

Worth getting one? much difference between that and the s box? take it that the s2 box has the sport syncs etc

[Paul_Collins]

i think it has more or less the same ratios as a 1.4 xsi.

Dont quote me on that tho

[Steve]

i think it has more or less the same ratios as a 1.4 xsi.

Dont quote me on that tho

just did :homme:

[Paul_Collins]

lol :panic:

[jeeves_101]

there was an S1 box on ebay just the other day, not sure if it's still there tho!!

[Paul_Collins]

If your buying from ebay make sure you get the codes off them and make sure they take a pic of the code.

[bullit]

goes s1 xsi s2 vts so slightly better

[Ryan]

yes it uses the sports gearset, same as all rallyes/xsis/gti/vts.

s2 is a good box tbh, a mate fitted one to his 16v and you did feel a totally different characterisitic to the way the car picked up

[jeeves_101]

is the top end on an S2 box better than an S1? (when fitted to a 16V)

[Ryan]

is the top end on an S2 box better than an S1? (when fitted to a 16V)

yes due to the different final drive

[Steve]

cheers gang......

good to see some good info for some one to look back on :y:

[Steve]

yes due to the different final drive

what sort of top end does the s2 get as be a daily driver as wel dont want to shit mpg lmao its already at 29, price i pay i guess :homme:

[vtr130]

S2 isnt to bad about 80mph is 4k revs!!

[Steve]

S2 isnt to bad about 80mph is 4k revs!!

similar to a VTS then isnt it?

so it will accelerate faster than an s box?
looked at the ratios and basically dont understand, all i can see is it wont do such a high speed in each gear lmao

[vtr130]

The final drive is shorter, so it will go through the revs quicker to less mph... To keep you in the rev band better ;)

[Steve]

thanks for clearing that up for me! cheers should get similar mpg when not giving it soem dont really go over 65 on motorways anyway

[vtr130]

If u dnt go over 65 get an xsi box or an S1

[Steve]

If u dnt go over 65 get an xsi box or an S1

lmao i do sometimes but its rare plus s2 box is very local ideally would have just put a VTS box back in.

Plus s1 boxes are fairly old now, saying taht an s2 box be 10 year old nearly :panic:

[vtr130]

I have both ;)

Wana see which one is quicker down the 1/4!!

[Jackman]

Ive got a AX GT box ready to be fitted tomorrow

[Steve]

Ive got a AX GT box ready to be fitted tomorrow

thanks for letting us know :hug:

[Jackman]

thanks for letting us know :hug:

haha no problem.

heard its very simular to the XSi box.

i find the s1 box is far to short in my mates rallye.

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[vtr130]

Its wicked in mine mate :)

[Steve]

wel just got an s2 box off geordie......
see what the crack is, no crunchy gears for me now :y:

[Steve]

also worth using some decent gearbox oil or stick with the halfrauds shit?

[Jackman]

Decent oil ftw!

[Steve]

which oil? dont want to spend loads, suppose be worth it like

[geordiesaxo]

u should get your fly wheel l&b too mate

[Steve]

u should get your fly wheel l&b too mate

the man him self, i thought about it, i started a thread a while back about it looks to be a bad idea tbh people putting holes in their bonnets etc

[Steve]

also do i grease or lube the fly wheel? its rusty like, i know dont use oil as get on clutch but it looks shite haha
or a fly wheel cleaner or something?

[griff]

what?!

never herd of that...!!!

my mates running his L/B on a 1.3 box.. and i was/am planning on getting mine done.

[dan_87]

say if you got a s1 box for acclaration but use the car on a motorway everyday for work...could you take the 5th gear out of the s1 box and swap it for one out of a vtr box for example, just for better mpg on a motorway?

[dan_87]

and wots thats about holes in bonnets with lb flywheels

[Steve]

and wots thats about holes in bonnets with lb flywheels

search my past threads it will reveal all! one about lightened and balanced flywheels

[Ryan]

and wots thats about holes in bonnets with lb flywheels

they should only be L&B in a certain way, and doing so can still weaken them in some cases.

a weaker fly spinning at high rpm can equal a fly wheel disintergrating itself, the gearbox and the bonnet etc.....

[griff]

hmm doesnt sound good...

hopefully Sandy Brown will be doing mind so all will be good.

[Ryan]

hmm doesnt sound good...

hopefully Sandy Brown will be doing mind so all will be good.

sandy doesnt fuck about with anything, so i wouldnt worry.

its when people lighten them themselves where i worry lol

[griff]

yeah top bloke, spoke to him about L/B a 1.4 xsi FW then drilling it for a 200mm clutch - my mates also in talks with him about boding his GTi.

your not Ryan Cooke off the RR are you lol?

[Steve]

so should i just leave my flywheel alone nice and rusty? bother cleaning the clutch (change 4k mile ago) and flywheel with some cleaner from halfrauds while the box is off?

[Ryan]

your not Ryan Cooke off the RR are you lol?

no im just Ryan on the RR aswell.

[Ryan]

so should i just leave my flywheel alone nice and rusty? bother cleaning the clutch (change 4k mile ago) and flywheel with some cleaner from halfrauds while the box is off?

thats only surface rust on the flywheel, most cars have it.

if ur gonna get it L&B dont just let any bodge merchant do it

[MaRiO89]

Just buy a proper lightened flywheel..

They aren't very much..

[Ryan]

Just buy a proper lightened flywheel..

They aren't very much..

one from pugsport is lol!

and the fidenza one last time i checked was £300

[MaRiO89]

lol

Well dont go to pugsport..

Hi flow or qep or someone like that does them for £60-£70 iirc..

[Ryan]

lol

Well dont go to pugsport..

Hi flow or qep or someone like that does them for £60-£70 iirc..

thats not a proper lightened one though ;)

its a modified one, not one made from a specific casting.

qep work on an exhcange basis, works out inc vat more like 120

[MaRiO89]

Oh ah..

Guess they are quite pricey then..lol

[Steve]

think al leave it for now haha

get this s2 box on before xmas or something and see what the car drives like!

[M4SON]

av got 1 quite abit quicker acceleration but top end dies a bit

[Steve]

av got 1 quite abit quicker acceleration but top end dies a bit

an s2 box or s1 mate? never knew yours was cammed?

[M4SON]

s2 box i remap n cammed etc now ha