are there any police officers on here?

[maynard]

hey, as above are there any police officers on here?

seems like a good job with a good wage, just wanted peoples opinions on it and if you are one what is it like?

[TU-Tuning]

Not sure why youd want to be one in all honesty, every copper but one ive encountered has been a master is egging people on, being arrogant and a general wanker when its not needed. No respect for any of them i think the force in my area at least are a dicrace and i have a lot of stories to back that up. My dad used to be high up in the local courts and he thinks theyre useless too

[maynard]

Not sure why youd want to be one in all honesty, ever copper but one ive encountered has been a master is egging peopl eon, being arrogant and a general wanker. Why would you want to be one of them

nice!!

[TU-Tuning]

Im sorry but its true. I dont understand why they have to be so arrogant and gnarly its so un neccesary

[Craddock]

My sisters BF is a copper, great job and great wage.

[maynard]

My sisters BF is a copper, great job and great wage.

is he like the descibed above?

[Wayne]

DarylVtr is a policeman.

[dk_vtr]

.... lol not a great job where im from :p

[TU-Tuning]

few examples, my mates nan got robbed. Was scared to leave her room. It took the cops 4 days after she rang to come round and have a look at the robbery.


When i crashed, they accused me of being a boy racer, jumping a red light and having no insurance, whent he evidence suggested otherwise and i had full insurance. Just trying to egg me on. I was the one that rang them and they had the cheek to tell me i had no insurance and that i jumped a red light. I actually apologised for making them come out when they first arrived, for the hassle etc. And they still treated me like shit even though i was very polite. At one point he told me to get into the back of his c ar on the other side of the road and to follow him. I did so, he then said aomething like wait there you might get run over we dont want you causing more accidents do we



My female mate got beat up by three blokes and a woman in her own home and the police did nothing about it because they couldnt be fucked to follow it up. She still has nightmares about it



Makes me so angry.

[Viper]

daryl is, and im sure the guy that bRought mike's fiesta is a bobby too

[willsy]

Try sh*t backing from the Government and not giving sufficient resources to do the job.

The Government has forced some forces to be downsized of late so that theres less Police now on the streets than there were 30 years ago and the population has increased hugely!

With all this Health and Safety and Human Rights Act b*llocks aswel its extremely hard to get any proper 'Crime solving' work done with the amount of paperwork thats expected to be done.

If you saw any of that you'd understand.

[lukesaxokid]

i can relate to what Ben is saying, most are uneccesary wankers, they all seem to presume your a chav driving a saxo, be nice to be treated like any other tax paying road user but hey, good money if its your kind of job!

[TU-Tuning]

Try sh*t backing from the Government and not giving sufficient resources to do the job.

The Government has forced some forces to be downsized of late so that theres less Police now on the streets than there were 30 years ago and the population has increased hugely!

With all this Health and Safety and Human Rights Act b*llocks aswel its extremely hard to get any proper 'Crime solving' work done with the amount of paperwork thats expected to be done.

If you saw any of that you'd understand.


I know your a copper mate and your a decent bloke as i can see from your reputation on here, and im not saying all cops are wankers im saying the way MOST seem to actually treat people is awful.



And if these budget cuts are the reason my mates having nightmares, how come there are at least 5 high speed cars sitting down by maccy ds carpark in my town everynight pulling people over for having red sidelights. Which is worse? There were none avilable when my mate was being attacked. Its fucked

[willsy]

In terms of the job itself though its awesome. So much variety and things to do. Plus the 'Not knowing whats doing to happen next' is pretty exciting.

Paperwork is an arse but that cant be helped.

Pay is good, but considering the type of work thats done it should be higher with all the times that life is potentially in danger.

Pension is brilliant though and always has been.

[maynard]

few examples, my mates nan got robbed. Was scared to leave her room. It took the cops 4 days after she rang to come round and have a look at the robbery.


When i crashed, they accused me of being a boy racer, jumping a red light and having no insurance, whent he evidence suggested otherwise and i had full insurance. Just trying to egg me on. I was the one that rang them and they had the cheek to tell me i had no insurance and that i jumped a red light. I actually apologised for making them come out when they first arrived, for the hassle etc. And they still treated me like shit even though i was very polite. At one point he told me to get into the back of his c ar on the other side of the road and to follow him. I did so, he then said aomething like wait there you might get run over we dont want you causing more accidents do we



My female mate got beat up by three blokes and a woman in her own home and the police did nothing about it because they couldnt be fucked to follow it up. She still has nightmares about it



Makes me so angry.

i see where your coming from willsy.

sorry to hear about that mate, obviously there is going to be a few cases like that but all the same thats still bad what happened.

[TU-Tuning]

Every situation ive come into contact with the police theyve been shocking apart from one occasion, where the guy was a legend. Thats still a pretty bad ratio

[maynard]

Every situation ive come into contact with the police theyve been shocking apart from one occasion, where the guy was a legend. Thats still a pretty bad ratio

very true. what happened when it was good?!

[Viper]

ben, the reason the 'high speed cars' are at the Mcbollocks car parks, is because thats what traffic cops drive.. and the cunts that hang around in the car parks are "traffic" so they ARE doing their job. it isnt essentially the job of a traffic cop to deal with attackings etc

[TU-Tuning]

Got attacked by a big group when i was a kid, used to be a little weed so I told my rents and they got the police involved and the guy was sound. Would never do that now but I was a right little pleb back then lol

[willsy]

And if these budget cuts are the reason my mates having nightmares, how come there are at least 5 high speed cars sitting down by maccy ds carpark in my town everynight pulling people over for having red sidelights. Which is worse? There were none avilable when my mate was being attacked. Its fucked

Different departments get different budgets.

Traffic gets an absolute massive wedge so whilst the money is on offer they can only spend it on Traffic related things, that is not the Police's choice. They'd be stupid to just say no thanks we've got sufficient resources as it then wouldnt get spent on other departments.

The area severely lacking is the 'Beat'. certainly where im from their cars are rubbish, dents, things broken and on occasions we've even had to swap parts around to make 1 reasonabl;e car out of 2 crap ones

at one point considering theres about 300,000 people in the town there was only 1 officer on duty to cover the whole east side of it.

On shift at any one time there is only about 6 paired crews.

Its ridiculous the amount of time spent at the station, if you get a fight and say 6 people are arrested the procedure set largely by the government states that you have to wait with the prisoner whilst theyre booked in etc which can take up to an hour. If a group of people have been arrested then that leaves things wide open.

[TU-Tuning]

ben, the reason the 'high speed cars' are at the Mcbollocks car parks, is because thats what traffic cops drive.. and the cunts that hang around in the car parks are "traffic" so they ARE doing their job. it isnt essentially the job of a traffic cop to deal with attackings etc

In the whole of my region mate, they have very very few cars to send to incidents. So if your a woman in a place called cheddar and your getting raped and you phone the police, theres a 30 minute wait on a car which comes from a local town IF ones available. And they wont use the boy racer chasers for it either. Yo0u cannot say thats good resource management

[willsy]

And before anyone says split the paired crews up to make more available units thats not possible as:

a- the beat doesnt have that many cars anyway
b- health and safety arseholes say double crewed only for most jobs
c- in places things are so violent that it wouldnt be worth risking being alone

I do understand where people come from when they say they've felt let down by the Police, but at the end of the day they'll always be seen as a scapegoat for the Governments incompetence in supporting them.

You have to look at the whole pie, once you've seen it you'll realise why.

PS Don't vote labour

[TU-Tuning]

I spose we're never gonna agree but i see what your saying. I understand there are very tight budgets, but i still dont understand why people are talked down to in the classic arrogant cop way there is NO justification for that, treated like shit, and expected to rely on a police force to protect them, get let down and then expect these angry people to let things drop afterwards. A service is expected and not given imo. Ill leave it at that.

[maynard]

agreed that the whole operation and management isnt great but is there anyone to blame for it? is the head of the met police or the mp in the news this week responsible for their lack of a pay increase.

its all well and good that we can moan about how rubbish the police are, but id imagine to make it better the government needs more money and to get that they're going to tax us more. viscious circle really.

[willsy]

In the whole of my region mate, they have very very few cars to send to incidents. So if your a woman in a place called cheddar and your getting raped and you phone the police, theres a 30 minute wait on a car which comes from a local town IF ones available. And they wont use the boy racer chasers for it either. Yo0u cannot say thats good resource management

Which is what i said

Traffic gets good funding and therefore they will spend it whilst its on offer

Beat get virtually none and have so many cut backs, paperwork etc etc


It doesnt operate as 1 single force, its not the way it works.

Traffic and Beat work as seperately as Surgeons work with Ward Teamaids in Hospitals

[willsy]

I spose we're never gonna agree but i see what your saying. I understand there are very tight budgets, but i still dont understand why people are talked down to in the classic arrogant cop way there is NO justification for that, treated like shit, and expected to rely on a police force to protect them, get let down and then expect these angry people to let things drop afterwards. A service is expected and not given imo. Ill leave it at that.

That i do agree with. There is no excuse for any lack of professionalism shown by a Police Officer and they shouldnt be in the job with that kind of attitude.

[maynard]

so each individual sector, ie traffic / drugs / firearms, all have different budgets then and therefore some departments perform better then others?

[willsy]

agreed that the whole operation and management isnt great but is there anyone to blame for it? is the head of the met police or the mp in the news this week responsible for their lack of a pay increase.

its all well and good that we can moan about how rubbish the police are, but id imagine to make it better the government needs more money and to get that they're going to tax us more. viscious circle really.

Also true, but the Government need to pull their heads out of their own arses and reaccess what they do with their money.

The funny thing is that the Government actually demanded a 23% pay rise this last year and their average expenses claim was over £100,000

^
wtf is going on with that?

That should be stamped out straight away.

I could name numerous other areas where money is thrown away, but we all know where they are.

Its not just big things either, theres small(er) things like Local councils throwing thousands away on crappy statues and fountains etc.

£250,000 Nuneaton spent on some Dandilion fountain in the middle of a roundabout not so many years ago. Imagine where that sort of money could have gone

[dk_vtr]

:clapping: .... good wee debate here - im enjoyin it!

[willsy]

so each individual sector, ie traffic / drugs / firearms, all have different budgets then and therefore some departments perform better then others?

Correct, theyre completely seperate and dont even use the same radio frequencies.

[maynard]

wasnt that £100,000 the lowest spent by each mp?

well yeah 250k on a fountain is stupid. a waste really of good money. things that happen like that go to show how bad the system works.

[maynard]

Correct, theyre completely seperate and dont even use the same radio frequencies.

thats bad.... talk about a lack of communication!

[willsy]

It is always a good debate.

Its interesting to see all the thoughts and opinions. Many do stem from personal experiences etc which is to be expected.

Its when you do see from the inside though that its not all rosey.

There really is such a big divide in departments and budgets and they do all work independantly. I guess this is a large part of the problem.

At the end of the day one of the biggest problems aswel has been the law aswel, its swung too much in favour of the offender rather than the victim, this has been caused by the 'Human Rights Act 1998' which imposes so many limitations within policing its unreal.

If any of you get bored during an afternoon it would make a fairly interesting read some of this stuff if you can find it on the internet.

[willsy]

thats bad.... talk about a lack of communication!

Yup, they are able to switch channels but the initial link is with the Control Centre and for Warwickshire i think theres about 2/3 people in there each shift to try and get messages etc across between people and also take calls of jobs coming in

They probably have one of the hardest jobs there if you think how many officers they've got to juggle at any one time its incredible. Give the wrong info aswel and its madness

[L33h]

Hmmmmm police in my eyes are total wankers. Hounestly this is no word of a lie but last year i got stabbed 5 times, through a girlfriend cheating and me hitting someone. Anyway it took about 6 month to go to court etc etc. He managed to get away with 200 hours comunity service and a 6 month suspended 'sentance' ... all because i started it apparently... police = wankers, no doubt about it...

Anyway on another note, my mams friends husband used to be 1. He says ya lock some 1 up and spend about 5 hours doing paperwork so its crap. :)

[willsy]

Time to leave you to it anyway guys and gals.

Sleep time has arrived :)

Goodnight

[maynard]

Time to leave you to it anyway guys and gals.

Sleep time has arrived :)

Goodnight

fair enough mate, good debate anyways!

[willsy]

Hmmmmm police in my eyes are total wankers. Hunestly this is no word of a lie but last year i got stabbed 5 times, through a girlfriend cheating and me hitting someone. Anyway it took about 6 month to go to court etc etc. He managed to get away with 200 hours comunity service and a 6 month suspended 'sentance' ... all because i started it apparently... police = wankers, no doubt about it...

Anyway on another note, my mams friends husband used to be 1. He says ya lock some 1 up and spend about 5 hours doing paperwork so its crap. :)

Again that would be the legal/court systems fault which is completely seperate running from the Police themselves.

Yet you've made the Police the scapegoat again.

The Police's job is to get offenders to court and privide evidence.

Its then entirely up to the Law Courts to proceed with prosecution and they are absolutely useless aswel! Again Human Rights Act favouring the criminal which has caused this

[maynard]

Hmmmmm police in my eyes are total wankers. Hounestly this is no word of a lie but last year i got stabbed 5 times, through a girlfriend cheating and me hitting someone. Anyway it took about 6 month to go to court etc etc. He managed to get away with 200 hours comunity service and a 6 month suspended 'sentance' ... all because i started it apparently... police = wankers, no doubt about it...

Anyway on another note, my mams friends husband used to be 1. He says ya lock some 1 up and spend about 5 hours doing paperwork so its crap. :)

i wouldnt say they all are like that but it does seem when something bad happens everyone hears about it, but when they do something good its overlooked.

[dk_vtr]

well i livein the north of Ireland, im sure u dont need a history lesson of the troubles that went on here. But one result of it was the Stevens inquiry into Collusion Between the RUC (Royal Ulster Constabularly) and loyalist terrorist groups. The police FORCE were found in numerous circumstances to have passed information which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of ppl.... the police we have today, the PSNI are a rebranded version of the old RUC... nothing changed only the badge and the name... so i dont have any time for the police here tbh. But obviously my attitude would be different in a normal sitiuaiton/society.. unlike the post conflict era which N.Ireland is currenly in... so as u say we all have our experiences which determine how we feel about the cops. at the end of the day its a job that need to be done and someone has to do it!.... jst wish they did it right over here! .... i think we could have a very long chat about this willsy lol... im studyin law and specialising in criminology so i love this stuff lol! (sad i know)

[AdamVTRUK]

with the money coppers are on i really doubt that a saxo would be any of there choice in cars and if they don't have one i don't think they would visit this website

[L33h]

hmm i suppose you rite on that 1, but its only overlooked because thats what they're there to do (if u know what i mean). most of the bad stuff is just papers making things worse, as they do.

[maynard]

hmm i suppose you rite on that 1, but its only overlooked because thats what they're there to do (if u know what i mean). most of the bad stuff is just papers making things worse, as they do.

yeah as its expected off them to do good its taken as second nature even if its something exceptional that has happened. newspapers just make things worse, but makes good and light reading.

[AdamVTRUK]

most coppers don't tend to be scanning through this type of forum, they tend to be scanning through website's like:

How fast does your car go (brap brap)
Cruse-Mcdonalds.com
Drainpipeexhausts.com

yeah you should get the idea its just normally sites that have the work cruse in them that tend to attract a few morons who video there car doing stupid speeds and doing horrible things to there cars

[Viper]

Hmmmmm police in my eyes are total wankers. Hounestly this is no word of a lie but last year i got stabbed 5 times, through a girlfriend cheating and me hitting someone. Anyway it took about 6 month to go to court etc etc. He managed to get away with 200 hours comunity service and a 6 month suspended 'sentance' ... all because i started it apparently... police = wankers, no doubt about it...

Anyway on another note, my mams friends husband used to be 1. He says ya lock some 1 up and spend about 5 hours doing paperwork so its crap. :)

police have nothing to do with the sentencing mate. thats all up to the county court, or whichever it went to.

[maynard]

most coppers don't tend to be scanning through this type of forum, they tend to be scanning through website's like:

How fast does your car go (brap brap)
Cruse-Mcdonalds.com
Drainpipeexhausts.com

yeah you should get the idea its just normally sites that have the work cruse in them that tend to attract a few morons who video there car doing stupid speeds and doing horrible things to there cars

they wont find anything like that on here if they come looking then!

[dk_vtr]

the Media are a disgrace! ... tabloids like the sun, star, mirror etc shud be banned from printing stories their editorial team dreamt up to sell papers... worst about it is some people actually believe what they read! :bored:

[AdamVTRUK]

I hope they don't although i spy lately some little critters are starting get on the forum and suggest pink slips and generally think they are living in the fast and furious film some people are so easily influenced

[L33h]

the Media are a disgrace! ... tabloids like the sun, star, mirror etc shud be banned from printing stories their editorial team dreamt up to sell papers... worst about it is some people actually believe what they read! :bored:

haha yea true but it gives u something to do on your break at work :)

[L33h]

oh yea another reason i dont like em... coz about 5 times ive been to the shop and bought some cans, im on my way home to watch the tele or sumit and guess who pulls me... yea them :). They take my drink off me and say they 'suspect' me to be drinkin on the streets... wtf lol.

[maynard]

I hope they don't although i spy lately some little critters are starting get on the forum and suggest pink slips and generally think they are living in the fast and furious film some people are so easily influenced

yeah someone was going on a 190 bhp 106 or something wanting to race someone on here for pink slips!? what an idiot that guy must be. yeah me too i hope there arent any more people who think they can just come on here shouting the odds and being idiots. keep it the way it is!

[Viper]

surely if you;'re in a car, they cant confiscate them for street drinking

[L33h]

surely if you;'re in a car, they cant confiscate them for street drinking

nah mate this was when ive walked to the shop ;)

[Easty]

Yup, they are able to switch channels but the initial link is with the Control Centre and for Warwickshire i think theres about 2/3 people in there each shift to try and get messages etc across between people and also take calls of jobs coming in

They probably have one of the hardest jobs there if you think how many officers they've got to juggle at any one time its incredible. Give the wrong info aswel and its madness

Amen, so much respect for my local ACR, always try and pop in now and again, it's nice to put a face to the voice that you talk to all day !

[Dez]

tbh i think the police do a good job under the circumstances but its the same with any job and life really you get some bad apples and thats how people remember them!

i personally think that they are under paid and over worked as they got to deal with so much shit ! but ive had to deal with a few and in all fairness they were ok!

[Jackman]

must admit i used to want to be a police officer until i came into contact with them.

now i have little respect for them and lost all intrest in becoming one due to a small number of planks in the Welsh force.

[blusax]

i triple their wage, going to peoples houses and setting up their computers(piss easy) but i still have the urge to be a copper, even though i never could.

i think its the status it brings.