Fiesta ST Vs Civic TypeR

[Jacko]

who wins and why?

hoping to get a new car in maybe may...was hoping to get an Ek9 but i have looked at insurance for it and nobody wants to give me any.

so we are looking at the newer typeR's and the current st.

thenks.

[Tupps]

Civic....Because theyre faster

[MAS]

mate i dont know exactly why but i remember me bros mate race a ford fiesta st on the m42 me bros mates civic type r is standard other than the induction kit i think and the dudes fiesta was slighty chipped (ecu) but the civic type r took him !

[Certi]

By newer Type R do you mean the EP3 or FN2?

I'm obviously biased but I'd say the Type R. Its great fun to drive, it'll run forever if looked after and its pretty quick as standard.

The Fiesta ST looks good, but I dont think they are very quick and I doubt they will be as reliable. Probably alot easier to insure though.

[Tupps]

Fiesta ST's are seriously under powered

[David]

Fiesta ST's are seriously under powered

Didn't you beat one when you had the S?

[Jacko]

sorry, the ep3.

[SaxoAL]

Why not focus ST? Much quicker than a fiesta, and shape up to the Civic far better aswell.

[Karl]

Fiesta STs are terribly underpowered,
or atleast...not as good as the other 2.0 hot hatches on the market.
CTR for me.

[PRICEY-VTS]

ep3 ctr all the way mate just got mine pulls in every gear better looks than the st asswell and a lot more power

[VTR_Nick]

civic because there faster, quicker, prob have better handling and are probably more reliable as there jap :y:

Also: Not really in the same leage, fiesta is insurance group 13 while civic is insurance group 17 i belive. so slight difference lol

[Karl]

The only thing thats better on the ST is the lower insurance group.

[Tupps]

Didn't you beat one when you had the S?

Beat one several times to 60 then the ST picks up the power after that

They have decent interior but not worth the money at all

[Jacko]

focus isnt really me.

seems the fiestas are poop then, trying to blag a wee drive in friend of a firens one.

dont know any body with an ep3 so testing that might be tough.

[Karl]

Fiesta will lose value quicker than the CTR also, as theirs a new Fezzy scheduled for '09

[Scattle]

Civic.

[Matthew1684]

If it were me and i had a choice between the two i would get an EP3 type r. Lovely looking, great drive and that all important jap reliability. No contest for me... but thats just my opinion!

[chrichvtr]

civic it revs all day long!!!!!!

0-60mph in 6.6secs 0-100mph in 16secs Top Speed 147mph (civic)



It develops its 148bhp at 6000rpm and 140lb ft of torque at 4500rpm, and is coupled to a close-ratio five-speed gearbox with a short-shift mechanism. At 1137kg the Fiesta is no flyweight but manages a useful power-to-weight ratio of 132bhp per ton, and Ford claims a 129mph maximum and 0 to 60mph time of 7.9sec. (fiesta st)

although a lot of sites seem to differ in the power of each car

[Tupps]

Mine would put up a decent fight with a tyre R then....

0-60 in 6.8 standard (iirc) and top speed of 152mph

[Jacko]

seems the EP3 owns the fiesta now tbh.

[Jagztorious]

Ford focus ST is better then both. Looks soooo much nicer. and will kill a civic

[Jacko]

dont want a focus.

[Tupps]

I'd much prefer the Civic mate

[kcsaxo]

type-r anyday based on performance, reliability, space and the rest.

[Jacko]

fiesta is off the list then.

any other siminlar spec motors for similar prices?

[Karl]

Ibiza Cupra?

[Jacko]

like them alot. also the leons...

[Karl]

The Diesel versions are also quality.

[Karl]

If your looking for a hot hatch perhaps 172 Cup?
182 Cup?
182 Trophy?

[chrichvtr]

integra!!

[Jacko]

integra would be nice but cant afford it.

[Jacko]

If your looking for a hot hatch perhaps 172 Cup?
182 Cup?
182 Trophy?

think ive went of clios tbh.

[Karl]

Whys that?
the fun factor is great,
tidy cars,
nippy.

[Jacko]

my cousin has a trophy they are good cars just not my bag.

[chrichvtr]

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/HONDA+INTEGRA/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146,N-24-86-4294966676-4294967196/search.action

integra ftw!!!!

how much you got to spend mate????

civics are around 9grandish atleast i thought??

[Tupps]

Astra Coupe Turbo ;)

[Jacko]

Astra Coupe Turbo ;)

not too keen on them. :A:

[Jackman]

ST's are dog shit.

and i don't like civics (apart from the EK9) either.

[chrichvtr]

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its on the link above a couple of posts white integra type r its the dogs surely you can afford that if you can a civic type r? granted its the older model integra but still a good example!!!!

[MARTYN19588]

corsa sri or vxr, dependin on your budget

[Jacko]

corsas are piss.

[The_STIG]

cicvic imo the ST's aint what they should be my astra tortures em i thought they would torture me, was quite suprised tbh

[Maxwell]

Fiesta will lose value quicker than the CTR also, as theirs a new Fezzy scheduled for '09

how do you work that one out???

'05 fiesta st's still go for around £8k

'05 civic type r's are going for around £13k

fiestas started off around £13k and civics like £18k


so they seem to be decreasing at the same rate!

[Krys_23]

One's Jap and one's Scrap? there's your answer lol fuck fords

[Krys_23]

fiesta is off the list then.

any other siminlar spec motors for similar prices?

Clio 172 ftw..

[Maxwell]

^^^ that was a bit rash!! lol

fords have character unlike jap scrap.....and as much as i love my french cars, dont get me started on how crap they are build quality wise lol

all i can say is this!!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o166/JohnMaxwell1986/dsc00211.jpg


and it will smoke 99% of any v-tecs that comes near it!

[Krys_23]

^^^ that was a bit rash!! lol

fords have character unlike jap scrap.....and as much as i love my french cars, dont get me started on how crap they are build quality wise lol

all i can say is this!!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o166/JohnMaxwell1986/dsc00211.jpg


and it will smoke 99% of any v-tecs that comes near it!

Thats rank.. hate fords,

[Maxwell]

Thats rank.. hate fords,

well even if it isnt to your taste....you would never see it...because it would be either too far ahead of you, that you wudnt see it....or it would be bulldozing you up the road lol

[Certi]

A 05 CTR would cost no more than £16k brand new, not £18k.

EDIT: Also it's hardly fair to talk about how that Fiesta would skin a VTEC because its obviously not standard. I'll bet theres plenty of modded Type Rs that are quicker.

[Krys_23]

well even if it isnt to your taste....you would never see it...because it would be either too far ahead of you, that you wudnt see it....or it would be bulldozing you up the road lol

Doubt it would catch me because i'm up in scotland :hug: lol

[Jacko]

^^^ that was a bit rash!! lol

fords have character unlike jap scrap.....and as much as i love my french cars, dont get me started on how crap they are build quality wise lol

all i can say is this!!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o166/JohnMaxwell1986/dsc00211.jpg


and it will smoke 99% of any v-tecs that comes near it!

hate them.

[Maxwell]

A 05 CTR would cost no more than £16k brand new, not £18k. And I'll bet theres a fair few VTECs out there that would hump that Fiesta up and down the place, not standard of course but neither is that ;)

well it was pulling at least 10 car lengths on a grey type r with a full exhaust system, v tec controller and an aem filter...down a motorway near me!

think thats pretty impressive for an oul wanked out ford :P

[Krys_23]

My days check this out

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/292886.htm

[Certi]

Not really as I'll bet its had a fair few mods done to it if the intercooler is anything to go by. A full exhaust and AEM will add approx 3-4bhp and the VTEC controller will do pretty much nothing tbh so not the best spec for a Type R.

[Krys_23]

Don't know if this is your cup of tea either mate but i love it!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/319833.htm

[alextoffie]

Civic without a doubt.

Even if it was between that and a focus i'd still have the civic, because the Honda will always be more reliable.

[Maxwell]

well much of a muchness...i hate v-tecs, and i know this fiesta pisses over lightly modded ep3's.

though theres only 1 turboed ep3 here, and it wipes the floor of nearly anything that touches it!!

the same fiesta, before it got the 1.8 zetec bottom end, the cossie t3 and fancy internal stuff, was 160bhp on cvh bottom end, and it sat with a 280bhp 2wd sierra cossie!

[Jacko]

that civic is mint. astras arnt my thing.

[Maxwell]

Don't know if this is your cup of tea either mate but i love it!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/319833.htm


i hated vauxhalls with a passion, until they brought this out!!

i would have these before anything mentioned...purely for its looks, rarity and colour!!!


absolute sex piss!!:D

[Krys_23]

Pulsar?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/270420.htm

[Krys_23]

i hated vauxhalls with a passion, until they brought this out!!

i would have these before anything mentioned...purely for its looks, rarity and colour!!!


absolute sex piss!!:D

Agreed mate.. think that is the sexiest gsi turbo i've ever seen.

[Jacko]

loath pulsars lol. dont want an old car tbf.

[Krys_23]

Cooper S? These absolute fly.. mate has one

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/310426.htm

[Maxwell]

see being honest....over in northern ireland, 200sx's/silvia S14's have became a big hit!! cheap to insure and buy, and 204bhp on tap!!

plus takes next to nothing, to see them at 250 - 300bhp


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/274732.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/326023.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/316509.htm

[Jacko]

nissans are sweet mate. but being 19 and from northern ireland ill find insurance on them hard to come by.

[Jacko]

i also feel im to small for a silvia lol.

[Krys_23]

Sexy 172 :

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/208918.htm

.. I'm all out of idea's

[Raz]

nissans are sweet mate. but being 19 and from northern ireland ill find insurance on them hard to come by.
i think no matter where your from jacko...it will cost alot for insurance...

[Jacko]

i think no matter where your from jacko...it will cost alot for insurance...

here more so tbh, i pay 2200 for insurance on a 1.1 lol.

[Maxwell]

you from ni as well jacko?? lol im from carrick outside belfast!!

and i know of a guy who turned 20 back in start of dec, and he has just bought a white one, and with only 1 yrs no claims its like £1600 tpft and thats a silvia (import)

[Krys_23]

My money's on the GSi

[Jacko]

not bad tbh...

[Raz]

here more so tbh, i pay 2200 for insurance on a 1.1 lol.
so with that in mind....you want to go to a bigger better car and expect to pay same insurance? :/

[Jacko]

My money's on the GSi

think im sticking to the ep3.

[Jacko]

so with that in mind....you want to go to a bigger better car and expect to pay same insurance? :/

yes id be happy paying 2200 for the ep3.

[Raz]

yes id be happy paying 2200 for the ep3.
but cos you will have 1yr ncb? doesnt mean ya insurance will drop alot...it could even go up...which is money out of your pocket :n:

[Jacko]

with a years no claims it would drop to below a grand on my saxo...but i want a better car...dont mind forking out the extra doe for it though.

[Raz]

with a years no claims it would drop to below a grand on my saxo...but i want a better car...dont mind forking out the extra doe for it though.
i got quoted more to renew my old 1.1 sax than my current vtr....

it was in the region of £1300 for the 1.1, i pay £1000 for the vts which i found strange...

if your willing to fork out the cash...then good luck....you will need it

[Jacko]

10k-ish for the car and 2k-ish for insurance. ill be sweet.

[Raz]

10k-ish for the car and 2k-ish for insurance. ill be sweet.
you got the money saved up? or just planning ahead for the lottery draw?

[Jacko]

have a fair pit saved...will have more saved come may..and if i need to ill get a loan.