my crappy torsion :(

[saxo_bigbass]

had my car booked in to get torsion bar lowered at 9pm.didnt wrk on it until 4 15 pm before shop shuts.im soo angry.the car is still in the garage. :n: they lowered one side of the car and the other side was seized. labour charges 45pounds per hour. and the bill has come up to 210pounds and the car still has not been in seized.im so angrty as im paying for nothing! basicaly giving someone 210 for nothing.

they said they are goin to try and unseize it by gettin these heated things.and they said it will unsieze it.what is this that they are doing des anybody know?? :panic:

IM ANGRY

[steve_335]

If i were you, i wouldn't pay anything, sounds like you are being ripped off. i work in a garage and we have had people leave their cars for a day, we just charge for when we work on them. I know this place called 4xtreme charge £75 for lowerin g the torsion bar. If they have charged you that already, what's to say they won't add more on for more work they will do on your car. If you are not happy with the job, you have every right to dispute it.

[kev999_VTR]

Thats just a joke. I got quoted a set figure for lowering my saxo. I didnt pay by the hour. Mine got seized as well and still only cost £80, inc lowering of the front.

[Steve]

had my car booked in to get torsion bar lowered at 9pm.didnt wrk on it until 4 15 pm before shop shuts.im soo angry.the car is still in the garage. :n: they lowered one side of the car and the other side was seized. labour charges 45pounds per hour. and the bill has come up to 210pounds and the car still has not been in seized.im so angrty as im paying for nothing! basicaly giving someone 210 for nothing.

they said they are goin to try and unseize it by gettin these heated things.and they said it will unsieze it.what is this that they are doing des anybody know?? :panic:

IM ANGRY

no offence you are being raped......
raped to fuck, how can they lower one side? you need both torsion bars out.
And if they are a proper garage and cant unseize them i would pay nothing, mine were seized heat them with a blow torch came straight out.

Should have got a fixed price, normally takes 2 - 3 hours so you were getting ripped anywhere. did you not search on here or see the thread about which users offer the service cheap?

[steve_335]

I remember my boss did some springs for adum on here, they took a little llonger than he thought as bits were seized but he stuck to original price he quoted

[stoney_182]

doesnt sound good, 4xtreme in essex do the torsion bar in just 40 minutes

[steve_335]

doesnt sound good, 4xtreme in essex do the torsion bar in just 40 minutes

Think i'll be paying them a visit soon to get mine done.

[saxo_bigbass]

i know im being fuked it was only ment to be 2 hours but cock sucker bummin me

[saxo_bigbass]

what is this heat torch they use? does it defnitly get it out?

[maynard]

what is this heat torch they use? does it defnitly get it out?

think its a blow torch. have you already given them money?

[saxo_bigbass]

no havent paid them yet.there going to use some sort of heat item from citroen to unsieze them.i cant understand why they cant sort it out.how much work is actaully required to unseize.will that torce defintly work??

[Mark51]

^^ just smack it hard enough with a hammer and it will come free. there is no such thing as a special "heat thing" that citroen do to free the torsion bar.

seriously mate id wait until they have done the work, take it for a test drive and dont go back to pay them

[maynard]

yeah the torch should do it, but make sure you dont pay over the odds and get bullied into it.

[Steve]

what is this heat torch they use? does it defnitly get it out?

if you put it on the hottest flame it will melt metal, just heat it for a few seconds move on and off and free's it up. Works every time.
I wouldnt pay them more cos tehy are clueless

[Steve]

^^ just smack it hard enough with a hammer and it will come free. there is no such thing as a special "heat thing" that citroen do to free the torsion bar.

seriously mate id wait until they have done the work, take it for a test drive and dont go back to pay them

smacking with big hammer comes before heat in order of unseizing ;)

[saxo_bigbass]

seriously annoyed!have to walk around till 7pm 2moro.didnt thin torsion wopuld be this much hassle.i just hope heating it definitly solves the problem.i reckon il be paying up to 300 :( my car sso shit

[stevenet15]

Sorry to hear there charging u so much, as others have said its allways best when u have a fixed price agreed first, if the garage has genuenly spent 4 hours on it trying to unseise it then its justifyable charging u even tho its not been done but its because from a business point of view they have spent the time on it not there fault its seised, howerever most good garages wont charge u nothing or minimal out of good will as tehy couldnt do it. They should have called u and asked if u wanted them to carry on trying after they had gone over the rought time they quoted u tho

how can they lower one side? you need both torsion bars out.


you can lower 1 side at a time, 1 torsion bar lowers 1 side the other torsion bar lowers the other u dont need both out to lower 1side, Hence how 1 side has been done and the other has not as its still seised, personally i wait till both bars are out before i put them back in at the lowered position tho as no point in lowering 1 side till u know the other is unseised

[pjsaunders06]

with mine one side was seized too, they heated it up and hammered it to fook. Then they used some stuff to try and un-seize it which didnt work, then they dropped the exhaust and axle off. Smashed it agen and it un-seized hooray lol

[saxo_bigbass]

what might happen is if they cant unseize the nearside torsion i will have to get the offside back to what it was and stil pay them all the labour cost :< :< :< im pissed. aitn there nobosy on here that can help me. does that heat torch definitly do it.i kno i keep asking but they said if the heat torch doesnt do it i need a new torsion bar:S

[saxo_bigbass]

the axle will need to come off :| how much work is that :\

[pjsaunders06]

you can heat it up then cool it down, makes the metal expand and contract thus releasing it :y: if that failed they should drop the axle put on the work bench and smack it with all their strength lol

[pjsaunders06]

the axle will need to come off :| how much work is that :\

basically not much work i believe althought i have never done this, say to them that you will only pay a set price as 210 is to high. Its not your fault yours was seized, you were quoted a price and they should honour it. As they knew perhaps it could be seized

[saxo_bigbass]

it was 45per hour :( said it would be around 2hours max.not as if i can run off without paying them is it.i hope that heat torch works or im gona have to hand over 250pounds and drive off with not one notch of lowering :( aitn htere nobsy that can help me lower it .ill pay u whatever lol

[pjsaunders06]

how far away are you from portsmouth mate, because i would come down and kick their arse lol. They have stated two hours yes, you say well you quoted me £90 and i accepted if you explained to me it could be 9 hours etc i would reconsider whether to accept you to carry out the work. At no point did you explain the worst case scerneio (cant spell i know) and on this basis i think you only charge me the price you quoted :y:

[stoney_182]

sounds mad if they are going to charge you that much, hope you get it sorted

[dannyc]

lol safe to say i wont be taking my car to rpb.

If i knew u were willing to pay so much you shoulda said, i got a few garage quotes of 120/150 etc.

[stevenet15]

it was 45per hour :( said it would be around 2hours max


they should have called u and asked for your authorisation to carry the work on after the quoated time

[saxo_bigbass]

ive been bummed.not going back here agin.thats very far ffrom em mate.i live near milton keynes,dunstable northampton.luton,letchworth area.

[pjsaunders06]

ive been bummed.not going back here agin.thats very far ffrom em mate.i live near milton keynes,dunstable northampton.luton,letchworth area.

damn it i would have come down if close

you are being raped, i would simply say to them what i have said. Tell them that you are not happy with the price and you will go to trading standards for misleading you, say that you are only paying for two hours max and that they should have made contact with you before contuning pass the quoted time :y:

[stevenet15]

ive been bummed.not going back here agin.thats very far ffrom em mate.i live near milton keynes,dunstable northampton.luton,letchworth area.

should have come to me from the start i only charge £60 for the rear and live in aylesbury, but dont want to touch it now some monkeys have been at it

[saxo_bigbass]

these guys arent dodgy at there work they just take the piss lol.stevenet.if i pay you a abit extra then what u wnt can you do it this week? if it aint done laready?

[Rootyuk]

mate if ur from the mk area give Brooksey22 a pm. hes from norfolk but its only a hour and half drive away and he does torsion bars for £60. gonna get him to do mine wen i get the cash.

[saxo_bigbass]

most people ar ebookedup.i want it done this week lol.

[Rootyuk]

think he does them on weekends, if ur lucky he mite do it for ya at the weekend. worth a try if ur desperate

[Dez]

might aswel of driven down to owens garage in haywards heath - have them do it for around £100 then drive home!

you are being ripped off !

[saxo_bigbass]

i know ive been ripped of so much :( to late to go back now though.rooty u think ucan get hold of him? gona see what happend 2moro.then i will get back to whoever can do it the soonest

[Dez]

just refuse to pay mate, its a joke - got to be cruel to be kind in a way

[saxo_bigbass]

i agrred to it mate.so i have to pay.so fucking pissed.there good garage as well.so there ment to be.i swear that 250pound better be worth somthing for 2moro.

ud feel like a right noob walkin into the bosyshop handing over money for not even doing what u asked for

[saxo_bigbass]

just been to the garage.and they said they are gettin a ''puller'' or some sort of pulling thing.what is this? i told them to use a blow torch but they didnt mention it

[pjsaunders06]

have you spoke to them about the price mate :y:

[daivtr]

would have been cheaper for you to drive to wales and have my friend do it for 40 quid

[saxo_bigbass]

lol i just need to know what this pullin thing is :Z|

[pjsaunders06]

lol i just need to know what this pullin thing is :Z|

i am a pulling machine on a saturday night tbh

[Rootyuk]

yeah no worries ill send him a pm and see if he will get abk to u

[saxo_bigbass]

loooooool.machine my arse.

na whats this TORSION pulling item,they didnt exactly say what it was except some guy has gone to get this item that pulls something out :S

[stevenet15]

loooooool.machine my arse.

na whats this TORSION pulling item,they didnt exactly say what it was except some guy has gone to get this item that pulls something out :S

slide hammer/puller every garage should have one, tbh makes them sound like monkeys that they dont even have a basic tool like that which is prety much an essentual tool for a garge to have as used in a wide range of jobs such as unseising thigns and laods of other jobs removing stuck bits etc..

http://www.eurocarparts.com/sealey/images/DP9-5.jpg

[saxo_bigbass]

does that work 100% mate ? i know they dont hve alot of equipment

[stevenet15]

does that work 100% mate ? i know they dont hve alot of equipment

nope it dont 100% work when there seised altho the jolt/shocking action helps and its a good tool but there are many ways of unseising them do a search i've written about many and included animated diagrams.

i lowered user "HOPCRAFTS" torsion bar for him today

[saxo_bigbass]

they are the ones that need to know this.i bet i end up apying 250 pounds for nothing..they are not even using a heat mechanism to sort it out..

[saxo_bigbass]

just got back from the garage.cars just sittin on a ramp getting nothing done 2 it still.been 2 days now.and that means 2 days off work which was only emnt to be a day.there going to get back to me later if they can unseize it or not.i will keep you lot informed of this joke.210pounds just taken out my wallet.coulda given it 2 someone off here lol

[pjsaunders06]

they took 210 off you

[saxo_bigbass]

basically/i havent paid them it yet.but i have to pay them, the labour of ''trying'' to do somthin that alot of people can do.wheni come to pick up my car i have to pay them the labour 210pounds and drive off withit being normal height.im soo angry.car worx sed they can do it for 75 and brooksy22 for 60pounds this weekend :) so that l around 350pounds icluding petrol for all the work from my torsion :(

[Rootyuk]

brooksey22 said he would do it for you mate, get in contact with his asap to sort it out.

[saxo_bigbass]

im ANGRY AS FCUK.

they just rang me sayin they cant fix it because somthing has welded itself on.the torsion bar has or sumthing.:S they said il need a new axle to lower it :| im so pisse di gotta go get y car back in a hour and gie them180pounds for what ?? ther ejust putting my car back back to what it was. when i go see them ill get more detail on whats seized or welded on..does this mean noone can lower it:( :( :( :( :(

[yd51vtr]

thats is a fu*cking joke mate they cant take money off you without providing a service! Ask for your money back or if not get on to trading standards about them. You cant charge someone for trying to something. Thats like paying for a maccies and them saying "Sorry the fryers not working today" you wouldnt take it from them so dont let these sleazy bastards rob you!!!!!!

[saxo_bigbass]

ye but thing is i agreed to pay for the work to get done at 45per hour.which oviusly they tried to get done but was seized.which aint htere fault.im just gonn aleave the car there man,i aint got that sort of money to get it out. :(

can torsion bars actually weld them selfs on?

[yd51vtr]

ye but thing is i agreed to pay for the work to get done at 45per hour.which oviusly they tried to get done but was seized.which aint htere fault.im just gonn aleave the car there man,i aint got that sort of money to get it out. :(

can torsion bars actually weld them selfs on?

I can see what your saying mate but that stil doesnt make it right as you said uve paid £45 a hour to get the work DONE. And they havent done anything. And i seriously doubt they can, rust can sieze something but theres no way it can "weld" itself as they have put it, there are ways and means of doing mostly anything, the torsion bar has been made to be removed so it is possible. They are rippin you mate!

[saxo_bigbass]

i know.they didnt even use a heat torch.all they used was a pulling thing.

im so annoyed.going up to brooksy22 on saturday to see if he can do it.but i dont wan go up there and he cant do it :( hope its not welded itself on.like the above comment.its made to come out. people do not go to rpb styling to lower your car. cant get my car out til i get more money now.gotta walk my ass around.cheers for the help though guys

[yd51vtr]

imo you'd be a fool to pay it matey

[saxo_bigbass]

no other choice but to get my car back... so annoyed. these wankers cant even be prepared for a job they kno that might be tricky. i was looking to post up pics of my new ride height but no.i loose out my car and 180 quid.

not as if i can driver away is it lol.they call police for not paying them ??

[N1ck9141]

i wouldnt pay but the heat thing im not sure completely how it works but when the thing seizes if they heat it up and cool it, it will expand and contract this will unsieze by moving it all when they cant

but seriously u got screwed mate for that price fuckem bring it home pay on here 15 pounds to become a memeber and use the guide given its not to hard seen people do it thanks to this site

[N1ck9141]

also i dnt no where u r but i hav a few friends that ive just told about this and we are all happy to come up and help get ya car out by any means if u no what i mean LOL im not no chav but they hav no right to charge for no service weather they tried or not u pay the mans hours to DO the job u never pay the man hours to TRY its the LAW

[SAM33R]

would a blow torch defo unsieze a torsion bar?

say if i used that and then the socket and m6 bolt method

[saxo_bigbass]

also i dnt no where u r but i hav a few friends that ive just told about this and we are all happy to come up and help get ya car out by any means if u no what i mean LOL im not no chav but they hav no right to charge for no service weather they tried or not u pay the mans hours to DO the job u never pay the man hours to TRY its the LAW

im from the bedfordshire area mate.thanks for that comment much appreciated.still havent got car lowered lol.think its just a crap axle!! left rep you mate

[SAM33R]

the job was to, pull out the torsion bars

re adjust

re fit

simple

that what you should be charged for, that is a fcking joke and your really being had mate

they should have asked you for consent for charging extra to unsieze it at which this point i would have said fuk urself

[saxo_bigbass]

there idiots.sed they had lowered one side str8 away and couldnt do the other side.so i took it to brroksy and he couldnt even get the first torsion bar out! and that was just 4 days after i got the car back from them.torsion wouldnt seize up in 4 days.i think they didnt even get NY OUT.

[SAM33R]

it is possible for one side to be lowered, both bars dont have to removed...

i asked one of my dads mates the other day that i want mine down but he said he dont wanna touch it :(

so whats your progress now?

not lowered im guessing

you wanna use the socket and bolt method

also use a blow torch

hope you get it sorted

[saxo_bigbass]

just 4mm all round at the minute.does look quite low but i want at least 70 - 80 on rear.im not going to get it done lol.what i ment about them takin one out is... if theyvetaken one out itll be easy to get it out again.but when brooksy22 tried it still wouldnt come out. so im guessing they lied about taking it out as it wouldnt seize in 4 days if you know what i mean. STUPID TORSION LOL

[SAM33R]

true say...

you use a slide hammer?

[saxo_bigbass]

they used a sliding hammer to get it out oviosly.but when they said they couldnt get the other torsion bar out they were like were waiting on this item that pulls the torsion bar out that is only available from shitroen.im thinkin its just a silding hammer :S

brooksy tried his custom 35pound sliding hammer and that was pure power! lol .still didnt budge :(

[SAM33R]

mate i would melt the bastards out lol

it must be well frustrating

mine must both be seized so im gonna probably not bother

i might just get them unseized

all greased up and put back in

you recon 60 mm front and 80-90mm rear would look good?

[RCD-Performance]

Thats rediculous.
Say someone came to your house to fit a new driveaway, they did half the job, then put it back the way it was, you'd tell them to shove it if they asked for payment.

Sorry but i don't tolerate ripoff merchants!

[Modified]

nope it dont 100% work when there seised altho the jolt/shocking action helps and its a good tool but there are many ways of unseising them do a search i've written about many and included animated diagrams.

i lowered user "HOPCRAFTS" torsion bar for him today

torsions bar = GAY!!!!! 100% GAY


steve - still nto got mine done yet! lol still driving the drag machine its been called now or hotrod :(

going to r-tec when i got the money!!!!

[kc51]

mate thats a joke tbh

hope u get it done eventually pal (Y)

[stevenet15]

torsions bar = GAY!!!!! 100% GAY


steve - still nto got mine done yet! lol still driving the drag machine its been called now or hotrod :(

going to r-tec when i got the money!!!!


they might not even be able to unseise it but will still charge you. Altho i kaked it in wd40 mixed with coke when i had a go so it might have loosened it off since then plus i gave it alot of abuse trying to get it out. How much are r tek charging? i saw a vtr axel on ebay earlier for £80 only had an hour left

[Modified]

they might not even be able to unseise it but will still charge you. Altho i kaked it in wd40 mixed with coke when i had a go so it might have loosened it off since then plus i gave it alot of abuse trying to get it out. How much are r tek charging? i saw a vtr axel on ebay earlier for £80 only had an hour left

they have quoted 150 inc inseising it! so will have to wait and see closer to the time when i got the money! wont be for a while tho! rather sort the flat out and such! :)

can u fit rear bars then steve? or is it agarage jobby? think its worth finding one already lowered?