Mg Zr160

[MJRallying]

Very underrated car imo ive got a 2004 facelift 160 took it to donington and it owned, 172's, 106gtis, civic type r's couldnt believe it!!

Only done 10000 miles 2 and paid 6k for it!!!

All consider when buying a car. :P

[Raz]

Very underrated car imo ive got a 2004 facelift 160 took it to donington and it owned, 172's, 106gtis, civic type r's couldnt believe it!!

Only done 10000 miles 2 and paid 6k for it!!!

All consider when buying a car. :P
not a fan of them mate....the only decent ones they made were the rally edition ones....

be prepared to new head gaskets every other month

[MJRallying]

Its a big rumour the head gaskets mate i used to av a zr b4 and was fine.

Its down to the radiators corroding and not cooling but now these av aluminium ones so are fine.

[Raz]

Its a big rumour the head gaskets mate i used to av a zr b4 and was fine.

Its down to the radiators corroding and not cooling but now these av aluminium ones so are fine.
fair enough...but still....it doesnt make me a fan of them :P

pretty poor bhp from the engine size dont ya think?

[Ace-Alex]

lol agreed, my mum of all people has a zr trophy se and the gaskets been fine for the hole 2 yrs shes had it lol

[leeroybrown]

160 from a 1.8 rover engine aint bad at all

[MJRallying]

What a 1.8 with 160bhp lol what other n/a cars have that??

Any more then that and its 2.0's like clios etc what about a fiesta ST with 150bhp and thats a 2.0

[MJRallying]

Just to let you know guys the K-Series engine is a honda engine and was made ages ago when honda bought them out, hence the engine code being K4 and a civic type r's code K20

[Certi]

The only way a 160 ZR would beat a Type R is if the driver was a complete tool and didn't know how to drive.

[Ace-Alex]

imo they are really nippy cars, i like them, but i wouldnt have one i dont think because the clutch is a bit awkward :S

[MJRallying]

Certi ask a few peeps on here then if you like bearing in mind i used to own a clio 182 and a civic type r and at donington on sun i proved that the zr160 is quicker round a track then both.

[Tupps]

quick cars!

[vtr_driver]

Love them. Shame insurance would rape me!!

[Ace-Alex]

hahaha that is qutie true vtr_driver! either rape u or turn u away bluntly lol

[Certi]

Nah I seriously doubt that driven by the same person, a ZR would beat the 182 or a CTR round the track. Poor drivers of the other cars IMO.

[allyVTS]

What a 1.8 with 160bhp lol what other n/a cars have that??

Any more then that and its 2.0's like clios etc what about a fiesta ST with 150bhp and thats a 2.0

ek9 is a 1.6

[Hanuman]

they aint bad but nout amazing mate, insurance grp 17!
mg zr 160
Engine Size 1796 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 7.4 s
Power Output 157 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 174 Nm
Top Speed 131 mph

compared to almera gti
Engine Size 1998 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 7.9 s
Power Output 140 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 178 Nm 131 lb-ft
Top Speed 131 mph

i had an almera gti and know someone with a 160 pretty much both the same speed and drive, i once KEPT up with a 172 from 40-95ish (private!) but if he was a proper driver he would have pulled away, i managed to time it in the right gear and started to catch him as he must have had the wrong gear i wouldnt have over taken him, but kept with him, NOT A CHANCE against a type r unless it was an absolute idiot who thinks its auto gearbox

[MJRallying]

Im talking about round a track but then again thats my driving ability which alot say is better then most.

Mine seems to brake and handle very well.

[kristel10589]

I love them. I always have.The only thing that puts me off is the insurance plus the fact that i've never had the money to buy one lol

[kev999_VTR]

I think they are great cars. I would certainly have one!

[Bodvts]

brother in law sold one last year said he was glad to see back of it had nothing but problems (headgasket, sensors and other things). Backbox went on exhaust think was about £450 for new one he ended up with a Piper one for £170. Told him what would be like. Must admit it kept its money had it for a year and traded it for a 182 they gave him £150 less than he paid. Fella over road had one but got rid of it coz parts are getting harder to get hold of

[MJRallying]

There very underated cars mate
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/markbristol17/DSC00452-1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/markbristol17/DSC_5216.jpg

Sold my astra that was very quick
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/markbristol17/DSC00395.jpg

[Bodvts]

tbh mate i would have kept the astra looks a lot nicer

[MJRallying]

I prefer the ZR tbh the astra was quick about 220bhp but cost to much to run.

[Hanuman]

sounds like veryy poo drivers as i though 172 would be mint driven properly on a track, and type rs are no slouches either way bit of a wolf in sheeps clothing just shame its insurance grp 17 bit stupid if you ask me

[MJRallying]

Mate ive owned a 182 and trust me they aint that great the brakes overheat long before the ZR etc

[MaRiO89]

182's just aren't as good as they are made out to be..

[Karl]

...........sure they are!
show me another 55 plate hot hatch that will outdo one for 7,5k?!

[MJRallying]

ZR with a good driver

[Karl]

LOL!

182 will outhandle a ZR160, im sorry to tell you this, but there are faster things on the road than a ZR.

[MJRallying]

I used to av a 182 mate trust me ZR is quicker round a track

[Karl]

so something that doesnt handle as well,
isnt as quick in a straight line goes better round a track?

I see your thinking.

[MaRiO89]

Tbh the clio's brakes were crap, they faded at the sight of a track..

Also with the ESP on, the power just gets cut when trying to accelerate..

I'm not saying the ZR is better but i dont know why people think they are crap?!

Half of those saying so have probs never been in one and trust me its nothing like a Rover..

Its about handling Karl like i showed at trax, probs the slowest car in a straight line on the track, but wasnt beaten by anything..

[Karl]

I never slated the ZR, but the Clio is a better all round car.
ESP? Traction control? dont get this with a 172 cup. :)

[MaRiO89]

Your entitled to you opinion but after being in both they both have their advantages and disadvantages..

[Karl]

in perfect honesty, id fancy a VTS' chances over a ZR160 round a track.


***VTS needs a brake upgrade though. lol.

[MJRallying]

NO CHANCE i was killing 106 gtis and mi16s

[darkslag72]

iv beat a zr 160 in my 106 xsi, was pretty quik. and yes my xsi is moded

[Karl]

MG ZR 160 - 0-60 7.4

Im sure the other drivers (especially the CTR driver was just crap.)

[MJRallying]

Thats a drag time thats not around a track is it?

[darkslag72]

iv got my 0 to 60 down to 6.8, roughly, stopwatch on my farm trak in the dry, half a tank

[Karl]

very true, but in comparison to say a VTS, its not a great deal quicker.

a CTR is like 6.6s to 60 and a 172/182 0-60's in 6.8,
im almost certain that the CTR/Clio is quicker in a straight line/around a track
than a MG ZR.

[MJRallying]

What have you done to it?

[MJRallying]

Souless i have no reason to lie i have owned both a CTR and 182 and now the ZR and various other quick cars and for sure the ZR is quicker around a track, altho integra type r's went past me quite well

[Matty_VTR]

my favorite car the ZR gunna get one after i get rid of the Saxo

[dannygti]

when it comes to track the driver is important so i think you beat them because you ar a better driver than they are,unless your isnt standard.a standard gti IS quicker then a mg zr160 with the same skilled driver, i know from expirience.

[josh1989]

Only done 10000 miles 2 and paid 6k for it!!!



only 10000 miles left and it all falls apart!

[Mugello]

i was thinking of getting one for my first car got a few friends that have them but they insurance group 17 !!! :( and plus they are older then me.(thats my friends) so saxo it is :):)

[wak]

they are very underated cars, its a very good strong engine, shame about the rest of the car

[TheMadSaxo]

Souless i have no reason to lie i have owned both a CTR and 182 and now the ZR and various other quick cars and for sure the ZR is quicker around a track, altho integra type r's went past me quite well

Sounds like pub talk to me this.

You're basically saying your car is about halfway between an Integra and a Type R Civic round a track!? Lol!


Get real.

[mattknight1984]

4 mates have had one at some point, ALL had head gasket failures.

Build quality isnt great either, comparable to a saxo!

[Vinny_VSX]

To be fair I went to donnington with marc on the weekend and he is a very good driver. Which is what you want on a track, than some jumped up guy in a powerful car which he can't drive. The CTR would kill the zr in a straight line not doubt about that and I am sure mark would agree there. But when it comes to handling, the zr is quite good.

I wouldn't say they are under rated as I see loads of them around. Mainly the model with the single head lights.

But at the end of the day, its a badged up rover.... Haha, only kidding mark ;)

[Matty-VTR]

The only way a 160 ZR would beat a Type R is if the driver was a complete tool and didn't know how to drive.

Seconded!

[MJRallying]

believe me around a track theres a guy on this forum who was a passenger i got past 2 172's and 2 civics (type r's) so thats 4 cars im sure one of them was an ok driver.

I dont need to argue i have had a Ford Racing Puma, CTR, 182, RS Turbos, Audi A3, C2 GT and loads others so i know what diff cars can do and i know that a ZR160 is quicker round a track then ctrs etc and danny a gti has no chance.

Vinny the ctr on the straights was not pulling away at all nick can vouch for that

[MJRallying]

oh and actually vinny_vsx watched me take 2 172's out on the pit straight lol

[Matty-VTR]

Unless your 160bhp MGZR was stripped then i very much doubt it would beat a clio 172 around a track (Which is a fucking awesome track car in standard form by all means) let alone a CTR.

If you got past them then the people driving them obviously had more money then driving talent

[tommyVTR]

they are v nice cars.. only reason i wudnt get one is because MG are bust!

[MJRallying]

Matty i have owned a 182 and CTR to start with the clio is quicker round a track then the ctr, ctr's dont handle aswell but i assure you the zr is amazing on track i have owned all 3 and all 3 i have tracked so i know.

It doesnt take much of a driver to floor a car down a straight!! And i got past why cant you beleive what im saying nick and vince watched it aswell

[MJRallying]

they are v nice cars.. only reason i wudnt get one is because MG are bust!


There back in business mate


http://www.mg-rover.com/

[dannygti]

believe me around a track theres a guy on this forum who was a passenger i got past 2 172's and 2 civics (type r's) so thats 4 cars im sure one of them was an ok driver.

I dont need to argue i have had a Ford Racing Puma, CTR, 182, RS Turbos, Audi A3, C2 GT and loads others so i know what diff cars can do and i know that a ZR160 is quicker round a track then ctrs etc and danny a gti has no chance.

Vinny the ctr on the straights was not pulling away at all nick can vouch for that

having owned both and driven them back to back i can say my gti is quicker, ive also done my ARDS so id say im a competent driver!

[MJRallying]

Well i was against a 106 gti on a very good sus setup etc and guess what i got past him aswell it cant just be one big world of crap drivers can it!!!

lol i have owned most hot hatches and know so dont argue i would be more then willing to come on a saxp trackday sometime

[TheMadSaxo]

believe me around a track theres a guy on this forum who was a passenger i got past 2 172's and 2 civics (type r's) so thats 4 cars im sure one of them was an ok driver.

I dont need to argue i have had a Ford Racing Puma, CTR, 182, RS Turbos, Audi A3, C2 GT and loads others so i know what diff cars can do and i know that a ZR160 is quicker round a track then ctrs etc and danny a gti has no chance.

Vinny the ctr on the straights was not pulling away at all nick can vouch for that


Which Type R and which 172 ?

[dannygti]

are you part of the mg forum? if you are i think it would be great to try and arrange a group trackday of some sort.what do people think?

that way .............when the flag drops the bullshit stops!

[MJRallying]

It just aint bullshit danny james_bristol my brother on here can vouch for it all, vinny_vsx can also nick will.

I was beating them and thats it, now accept it and get over it i have no reason to lie.

[dannygti]

It just aint bullshit danny james_bristol my brother on here can vouch for it all, vinny_vsx can also nick will.

I was beating them and thats it, now accept it and get over it i have no reason to lie.

sorry mate that wasnt aimed at you (the when the flag drops the bullshit stops)its my little motto.

maybe you are a extemely good driver?what do you think?

[Matty-VTR]

vids or stfu

[MaRiO89]

I'm not gona argue and this thread should be locked tbh but the ZR's are very good car's and people doubt them..

People doubted me in my 1400 at Trax, i pwned tbh..:P;)

Stop arguing ladies and get on a track day, i will put my money on Mark anytime, not cos he's my bro but because he's a crazy cunt and is a pretty talented driver..

Also, the ZR is only like 10 bhp down on the 172 but then gearing comes into it, the ZR's box is pretty short and is very pokey out of the corners etc, i just dont know why people cant accept these facts..

And as for a 106 GTI in std ish form killing the ZR 160 round a track, i beg to differ..My Billied up (:P) 1400 doesnt really handle much better than the std Zr and the Zr has more punch..Its just a fact now get over it you sad little gheys..;)

[MJRallying]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/markbristol17/th_17022008-1.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/markbristol17/?action=view&current=17022008-1.flv)

[dannygti]

i agree that they are good cars, they must be because they use have a mg touring car team and the zr is used so its definately got a good platform.
i didnt say killing but it is quicker, lets get this on track where the debate belongs lol

[TheMadSaxo]

Which Type R and which 172 ?

[MaRiO89]

i agree that they are good cars, they must be because they use have a mg touring car team and the zr is used so its definately got a good platform.
i didnt say killing but it is quicker, lets get this on track where the debate belongs lol


I agree..:d

[MJRallying]

What has been done to your gti then??

[Matty-VTR]

That vid doesnt show shit..

Right cutting the crap now - Are you saying your mgzr160 beats clio172's and CTR's in a straight line?

[MaRiO89]

No he isnt, but he did beat them but probs cos he had a better line through a corner..

Whats the fucking issue anyway?!

[MJRallying]

On a drag would be close to a 172 but generally it was me edging on them with a poss better line through a corner

[dannygti]

No he isnt, but he did beat them but probs cos he had a better line through a corner..

Whats the fucking issue anyway?!

lol theres no issue, people seem to get high rate for no reason lol,
my gti was standard when i bought it, its a little different now though;)

[MaRiO89]

I wasnt talking to you mate..:)

[stiffler69]

I quite like zr160 infact im toying with the idea of getting one are they really fairly quick ?

[TheMadSaxo]

No he isnt, but he did beat them but probs cos he had a better line through a corner..

Whats the fucking issue anyway?!


He said the Type R didn't pull away on the straights. To me that's basically saying the type is no faster in a straight line.

English do you speak it?

[MJRallying]

Yeh ok danny what work has been done to the engine to make it quicker then a 160 zr because the guy i spoke to and chased at donington had a filter, and magnex and 4-2-1 etc and i got past him.

[dannygti]

ive built a westfield with a rover vvc engine, nice torque and power but there are better engines.

out of interest what do you think handles better the mg zr160 or you old astra? as my friend is looking for one(astra)

[MaRiO89]

He said the Type R didn't pull away on the straights. To me that's basically saying the type is no faster in a straight line.

English do you speak it?

Yes i do..

I was referring to the clio's..

[Karl]

imo CTR > Clio > MG

[TheMadSaxo]

Yeh ok danny what work has been done to the engine to make it quicker then a 160 zr because the guy i spoke to and chased at donington had a filter, and magnex and 4-2-1 etc and i got past him.


Jesus fooking Christ, has driver performance ever entered your head at all?

[MaRiO89]

imo CTR > Clio > MG

Have you owned or driven any of them though? lol

[MaRiO89]

ive built a westfield with a rover vvc engine, nice torque and power but there are better engines.

out of interest what do you think handles better the mg zr160 or you old astra? as my friend is looking for one(astra)

I drove them both and i would say the Astra had more grip, but the ZR is nimbler..

[Matty-VTR]

Jesus fooking Christ, has driver performance ever entered your head at all?

Thats exactly what im trying to get at mate :y:

[Karl]

Have you owned or driven any of them though? lol

nope.
read many of reviews and watched lots of videos,
those 160s arent anywhere near as good as whats being made out to be in this thread,
agreed theyre nice cars if thats what your into....

If they were so amazing I think people woulda meantioned them in the "Greatest hatches of all time" threads.

[TheMadSaxo]

Have you owned or driven any of them though? lol

..but you don't need to have driven them to have an opinion.

[Bakes_vtr]

i agree with the masses here.

It sounds like the driver of the MG is just a better driver than the others, simple as.

I'v just bought a CTR and my best mate has a ZR160 and it cant keep up, even around corners and he is a good driver. And when he drives mine, i cant keep up with it in his 160! I do like it though, its not a bad little car but his head gasket has gone twice in 2 years lol!

[medz_vtrturbo]

Yeh ok danny what work has been done to the engine to make it quicker then a 160 zr because the guy i spoke to and chased at donington had a filter, and magnex and 4-2-1 etc and i got past him.

them mods dont do shit!!



mg=glorified rover
rover=over


hunk of fuckin wank


you have to have three eyes, one watchin temp gauge, one watchin road and one watchin your speed drop as the car pathetically splutters to a halt.

[VTR_Nick]

yeah mates got one when he put his foot down a little on some B roads i couldn't believe how fast it was. feels well quicker than his old VTS :)

[Vinny_VSX]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/markbristol17/th_17022008-1.jpg (http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/markbristol17/?action=view&current=17022008-1.flv)

Great video. The person filming it must have been a genius with a camera ;)

[Vinny_VSX]

I drove them both and i would say the Astra had more grip, but the ZR is nimbler..

FACT - That astra was absalutely amazing. Totally and utterly opened my eyes to Vauxhalls. If I could afford to run a gsi, I would 100% have one

[MaRiO89]

Too many cunts in this thread tbh..

[DaxVTR]

K-series engine is fantastic, i had a rover 216 and my friend has a 200 VI and imo they are a dream to run, cheap to buy cheap to fix and go like stink and pretty realible if u treat them right, theres a reason Lotus used the K-series engine in the Elise.

Only problem with the ZR is, its really heavy for a "hot hatch" to be honest i would of thought they'd have trubble fighting off a VTS.

[dannygti]

K-series engine is fantastic, i had a rover 216 and my friend has a 200 VI and imo they are a dream to run, cheap to buy cheap to fix and go like stink and pretty realible if u treat them right, theres a reason Lotus used the K-series engine in the Elise.

Only problem with the ZR is, its really heavy for a "hot hatch" to be honest i would of thought they'd have trubble fighting off a VTS.

another good thing about the k -series is they are very light, i think they are about 90kgs wet for the 1800.at my work we had a k-series westfield with 265bhp, it was quite nippy tbh.

[DaxVTR]

another good thing about the k -series is they are very light, i think they are about 90kgs wet for the 1800.at my work we had a k-series westfield with 265bhp, it was quite nippy tbh.

jesus bet that things fun to drive :| all that grunt... from a rover designed engine lol

[dannygti]

jesus bet that things fun to drive :| all that grunt... from a rover designed engine lol

unfortunately i didnt get to drive it as it was a customers car.that specific engine was seriously tuned,blueprinted l&b bottom end, tb's, 300+degree cams and a proper head gasket

[DaxVTR]

unfortunately i didnt get to drive it as it was a customers car.that specific engine was seriously tuned,blueprinted l&b bottom end, tb's, 300+degree cams and a proper head gasket

lucky git :( lol sounds like some serious money spent on that engine, best K-series ive seen is the 1.8 VVC not sure if it was the 143 or 158 one droped in to a metro. my god does that thing fly

if the headgasket ever goes on a rover/mg anyway you can just up-rate it with the land rover head and bolts and oil rail i think :S?

[Grand_Champ]

Cant be bothered gettin involved but this is slightly interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGpgJxZ3WII

IMO its all down to the driver as all these cars are pretty similar give or take

[BenHCFC88]

Cant we all just accept what each other is saying and get on with our lives, who cares tbh unless you organise a track day for CTR's,172's, type r's and ZR160's tis will never be sorted so just chill winston...........

[Danr]

Shame you can't get parts for them.

Nice cars though. Have a mate with a grey one. Smart.

[Oli_K]

LMAO at some of the comments on that video.

"LMAO, I saw a zr leather a veyron it had it for dust. MG/Rovers are good cars tho to be honest,"

[-Jason-]

Just thought i would join this lol

IMO i dont rate the mg atall not my cup of tea and dont think they are as fast as they are being made out to be.

And you say the 160bhp is good for a 1.6 but yet a honda crx del sol vti has 160bhp and thats a 1.6 n/a so the power is not all the special maybe against a vts or gti at 120 but mine has the same bhp as yours and is 0.2 litres smaller and revs longer.

If a track day was organised i would be interested in seeing this all be it make sure all cars are standard except maybe breathing mods as my car will do 0-60 in about 7ish to but much smaller engine than the type r or the 182.

Just think most of it is down to driver confidence and skill as the people on the track may have not done it before or did not know the limits to what their car can do so might not have been pushing as hard as they could with the car.

Just my opinion anyway

[Chris]

My cars better than your car.... ner ner ner ner nerrrrr!!

GROW UP FOR F**K SAKE!!!

Chris :)