HELP! dont understand sub and amps

[blackeyedgirl]

ok, theres a sub and amp deal i got my eye on at bassjunkies the amp is 600w and the sub is , so am i getting the sound of 600w or the full 1200?


http://www.bassjunkies.com/?pid=16117&show_my_car=&return_link=%2Findex.php%3Fq%3DPackages%2FSub+%26+ Amp+Package%2FSony%26PHPSESSID%3D3236dd57d62acc5a4 f5901b7bf2e6b76&source=brand

[Noddy]

Right, you get the power that the amp outputs (you need to read the RMp figures not the max power ones. Secondly, I'd advise you look at other brands than Sony....

If your on a budget, then have a look at JBL gear :y:

[blackeyedgirl]

so, say if i had a 500w amp and a 1000w sub, id only be getting 500w? so to get a 1000w i need a 1000w sub and a 1000w amp?

[Noddy]

Indeed so. But like I said, its the RMS figures that you need to look at. The max power figures are as they say, MAX POWER - this means nothing really - just the ampunt of power that the cone and driver can handle before they are pushed too far and break....

I'd also advise that you get a speaker that can handle just a bit more RMS power than what the AMP can deliver, this way you have better chance of not peaking and damaging the speaker.

[blackeyedgirl]

so with this kit id be getting 1100w?

http://www.bassjunkies.com/?pid=59273&show_my_car=&return_link=%2Findex.php%3Fq%3DPackages%2FSub+%26+ Amp+Package%2FJBL&source=brand

is this any good? and would there be anything cheaper? rep given..

[saxo_bigbass]

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jbl subwoofer 1000watts 300rms

jbl amp 1000watts
300 rms

look for where it says rms.doestn matter about the thousand/dont look at the max/peak power and let it make you think it is really good

so bassicaly you need to match the rms from the amp to the subwoofer.
to be honest i dont think u really need any more then 300rms or ull need to dosh out on bigger wiring etc.if you want to talk bout what to get .just add my msn taj303@hotmail.co.uk and ill show u some decent stuff as ive had alot!!

[blackeyedgirl]

ok im really really confused now? 300 doesnt sound very good! was after like 1000w! any deals?

[saxmaster]

watts means nothing tbh rms is needed the more power you supply the most basic of subs can out perform the best sub being run with not enough power
i wouldnt recomend sony either
ill pop a better a deal on 4 you now

[blackeyedgirl]

thanks you. repped. aint it possible to get 1000rms then?

[saxmaster]

yes it is possible but would need a lot of work otherwise would sound awful personally on a budget id go for jbl deal
something like
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/special-edition-bass-pack-p-6228.html?cadid=2521afc3bd98fa46e219e76640d66b2e

but ive got two kenwoods and they are very good subs aswell same as pred
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KENWOOD-KFC-W3011-12-1200W-SUBWOOFER-CAR-SUB-BOX-NEW_W0QQitemZ330212353837QQihZ014QQcategoryZ18805Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[blackeyedgirl]

ive already got a crunch 600w 4 channel amp, ive been told this is ok, would that kenwood sub be ok with that, or what wud be best with it, and would i be getting lotss of bass:P

[Quick]

What's your current set up?
What type of music do you mostly listen to in the car? This will affect what sized sub will be best for your needs!

[blackeyedgirl]

hmm
sony headunit and some shitty 6x9's but changin them, and was gona change front speakers and maybe the back ones too, i listen to mostly basssy stuff, buit a lot of diff stuff really, at the mo i have no sub and amp, just wondered if that kenwood sub wud be ok with my crunch 600 4 channel?

[saxmaster]

give us a budget and well sort you something out
and what the model number on the amp?

[saxo_bigbass]

im runnina 1000rms and itll be 2 much for you.if you wan to keep getting stoped by police and given warnings go for it. but liek i said 300rms sub amped up 2 a 300 rms sub will sound good. i know your confused but i tried to explain it lol.

[Predator_R32]

crunch amps suck imo get rid of it :y:

then give us a budget for a system, and we will put you a few together, also say exactly what you want, just a sub and amp, are you wanting to add speakers etc???

[incarnetwork]

Can do you this kit with a wiring kit for free:

http://www.audioassault.co.uk/Packages/Bass_Packages/JBL_%26_Juice_Bass_Package_One

[blackeyedgirl]

keeping the amp for now socan someone give me a good sub to put with it..:P i want something really bassy that u can hear coming from ages away, something thats gona turn heads :p

[Predator_R32]

have you got a link t this amp or the spec of it??

also budget for the sub would be good too :y:

also you really dont want to heard from miles around it just attracts theives, ive been there and done that and its not nice when you come out to the car and all the stuff is gone, get some sound deadening in the car, you need to keep the sound waves in the car, remember other people arent paying to lisen to your music

[blackeyedgirl]

on the front of the amp it says drive series, crunch usa, v-6004, 600w rms.
sub, i was ideally looking at 50-60, but cud go to 100, i already have a box with a sub in so can just take the sub out of it. ive been told that sub is shit its called vrx lol.

[Predator_R32]

is it a 4 channel amp or mono??

i cant find the exact figures thats all, and yeah the sub is crap

[blackeyedgirl]

4 channel

[Predator_R32]

hmmmmmmmmmmm so is that 600rms per channel or 2 channels or what lol

see this is what you get when you buy amps like this, the tech spec sucks :p

see if you can get more info on it :y:

[blackeyedgirl]

i wudnt have a clue someone gave it to me, hence why i dont know anything about it, ill have a look aound ..

[blackeyedgirl]

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Crunch_Drive_V-6004_Car_Audio_Amplifier/display_~full_specs

any use? x

[blackeyedgirl]

found this review :

This is about as good as it gets when talking about 4ch 600w amps. The cream of the affordable crop and its rising to the top. This amp sports a cool heat sink as well as great acoustics and sonic superiority. It gracefully reproduces mids and highs thanks to its new mosfet high power circuitry. On the other hand however, it will drive the #@*! out of some subwoofers.

Very clean output is also thanks to the new circuitry and the signal to noise ration is somewhere around 100db @ rms wattage of 300w per ch. It can drive your entire system and not even break a sweat. Since it is 1 ohm stable multiple subs can be used and multiple mid and high sets. If you use 4 ohm drivers 4 per channel can be powered. Example is 4 subs on right channel 1 and 4 subs on left channel 2 and 4 component sets on ch 3 and 4 .

Very versatile, affordable, and sonically excellent, is the signature of the Drive Series. They pack a lot of clean watts for the price and are very reliable when pushed hard. Competition capable and ready drive a butt load of speakers

[DJsaxo]

Sell what you have now and then have a look on Ebay for the JBL deals .

Sorry i don't have any use fully things to say and help you .

[Jungle_Jim]

stay clear of sony in my opinon. my brother has the 1000watt JBL sub and amp package and for the money its excellent, you wont want any more bass than that. he has it set on +7 on the HU and it will go up to +15

[blackeyedgirl]

how much could i get for the crunch 4 channel amp 600 rms and vrx 500w sub together? or cant i just get a new sub to go with the crunch amp or is it crap? x