Decisions Decisions

[rushy_23]

Morning :d

Well as some of you know, Ive moved out with my GF and lifes a bit hectic of
late. But theres been all sorts going on and my heads been everywhere. Not
going into too much detail turns out that my plans are changing once again
after some bad news.

So life is kinda returning to how it was whether thats good or bad news. If your
confused at this point dont worry as most people dont know the full story of
my situation.

Anyhow, the reason for the thread is for some advise. I can afford to carry
on working on the GTi. Most likely being able to finish it. But tbh Ive really fallen
out of love with it recently.
Its going to Pug1Off in 1 weeks time so that should get me back into it again.

But I was planning on what I really should do next. Let me give you the list
with reasons...

1: Consider selling up and starting fresh on a EP3 Civic Type R (but dont strip it)

That way Ive still got a quick N/A car but its a lot more comfy to drive and I
can hold passengers


2: Keep the GTi and get the bodies done by Des Developments

Only down side to this is I still wont have a comfy car of my own until way after
uni is done. Which is really annoying me of late

3: Brace yourselves lol. Instead of bodies, look into an engine swap....

I was lauhging myself when I was thinking about it, but. Ive always loved the
EK9 Civic Type R. Its a 1.6 16v pushing just over 180bhp standard. Me personally
I reckon I could afford to buy the parts and get them fitted into the 106, as
long as somebody has the knowhow to do it.
I know its stupidly crazy, but that would more than keep me keen on the 106.

But... Again I wont have a comfy car for ages and ages.

Obviously Ive got to do a hell of a lot of research into it first and finding an
EK9 engine may be a total joke. But its just an idea at the moment. But trust
me Im more than willing to take the car off the road for a while to get it done.

Bodies was always something I said I would do, but its just been done by everyone
now. VTEC man...

All laugh, then comment please lol. Think Ive officially lost it. If you can get
a GTi6 engine in a 106, then the honda engine should be doable

[GrantW]

Honda engine would be mental, but as you said it still wont be a comfy car.

Me, I got fed up of not having a comfy car and went for the Bee Em. Best move ive made, not missed the saxo at all.

But would you take the Type R on track? Since thats what you've been aiming for the whole time with the GTi, make it a track monster.

[grantlowery]

Personally I like the idea of the ep3 type R, it's a great car as standard the odd modification here and there and you would have a pretty quick car, how much are they going for at the moment?

Then again you have put so much work in to the gti, it would be very hard to let go of I would imagine...

[rushy_23]

Its one of them really huh. There are downers to each side.

Doubt I would track prep the Type R properly. May just keep it as a fast road
car. Thing that worries me about tracking the Type R is things will cost more
on it once they are worn out.
But something like camming the Type R would be a consideration. Its all doable
now but its just if I should or shouldnt lol.

The plan when i first had the 106 was to keep it for ages as my toy and just have
a boring family car on the side. But as said Im just so sick of having mates round
then not being able to drop them all. Or relying on the missus car all the time for
comfort...

Got to make a decision soon as the cage is going in next week. Id be saving
£1000 already if I cancel the Pug1off visit.

It would most likely be them that I get to investigate the Engine swap though
in the GTi.

[Hanuman]

personally wouldnt even put the type r and gti in the same sentence for an everyday car or for throwing money on either in the future, flog the gti as its only gonna be money down the drain, youl get the money mainly back on the type r and itl already be fast before you need to spend stupid money to be able to say "i have a faster than standard gti"

my opinion tho

[josh1989]

engine conversions just cost too much to get them totally reliable and settled, it's like open heart surgery for a car!!

[Hanuman]

hona parts aint that expensive dude either your just thinking that way as your used to fixing cheap parts constantly on the gti, if they were would alot of general people own any kind of honda... also where were you the 1000000000s of times honda threads / comments have been made on how reliable they actually are :P

[rushy_23]

Nah Hanuman, the GTi has been a great car to own. Only issue I ever had with
it was the thermostat going! When I talk about parts I mean parts via trackuse.
Everyday parts needing replacing I can live with. But wearing out tyres, suspension
components and brakes would obviously be more expensive on the Type R over
the GTi.

Trust me, a stripped GTi give a lot of bigger cars a run for there money. The issue
I have though is I want a comfy car thats just as quick (EP3).

If I had an engine swap it would be done 100% properly. Ahh seriously am in
too many minds.


With regards to the TBs, it would be a meaty spec and plus using the standard
GTi/VTS engine which is a bonus. But Vtec man!

[rushy_23]

I reckon it would fit:

http://www.flashoptions.com/i_prod/civicb16btyperflash.JPG

[eoey]

[QUOTE=rushy_23;1908918]Morning :d


EK9 Civic Type R. Its a 1.6 16v pushing just over 180bhp standard.


hahaha you honestly think a standard ek9 is running 180bhp on 95 try about 160 and not enough torque to pull the knickers of jody marsh.

cammed gti would shit all over a standard one

the only good thing is the reliablity

[Hanuman]

everyones aware they have no torque as the power is higher up. is the civic your in question about the 96-00 reg (ish) shape hatchback?

[eoey]

everyones aware they have no torque as the power is higher up. is the civic your in question about the 96-00 reg (ish) shape hatchback?

yeah 96-00

[rushy_23]

The Civic I look at replacing the GTi for is the the newer shape (2.0 16v).
Where as the engine swap Type R is from the older model like the one you
mentioned 96 onwards. (1.6 16v)

Cheers for that Colin, needs some research. If the benifits dont really amount
to much then obviously its not worth the time and money.


So, bodies or a new car?..

[eoey]

bodies if it was me mate ive always had a real soft spot for your car since i joined its modded to the exact way a black gti should be

boddied ftw

[Hanuman]

if it was the 96shape i would say stil with the gti,

but with it being the newer shape id deffo say get the type r gonna be ALOT more roomy and comfy inside, very reliable and as part as parts they are gonna cost as much as any newer car tbh so dont let that put you off. and remember type rs are made to be driven hard unlike most cars which crumble under the pressure.

only bad thing i read about type rs is they are uncompromising on the motorway high revving and very loud in the cabin. however this was only a review so it may have been in comparision to something daft like a brand new 5series bm or something

[Mark51]

keep the 106 imo, stay with the french scene, then when you've finsihed uni you will be able to afford to keep the 106 for the track only and then get another more comfotable car for day-to-day use

[Karl]

If you fancy a quick car with comfort mate, why not look for a say 04 plate CTR, that way you have a nice reliable, comfortable fast road car. :)

[sharpie]

keep the 106 imo, stay with the french scene, then when you've finsihed uni you will be able to afford to keep the 106 for the track only and then get another more comfotable car for day-to-day use

x2.

if you're seriously looking for a b16 engine though there are quite a lot about, but expensive if you're looking for more power gains from it, not to mention the complications of the conversion.

[Mikey]

ek9 engine in a 106 gti! that would be totally amazing rush, and you would be a tuning legend lol!!

but if i was you i would just buy an ek9! they look good, go well and are great cars! my cousin had a, integra type r and he miss's it like mad!

selling the 106 would be tough for you i can see lol....but change is good sometimes!!

imo the 106 cant look any better, if you start meddling it will loose its appeal!!

sell it white people love it and you can get a good price

[rushy_23]

Half of me just wants a nice quick car that actually is comfortable. But the other
half of me really doesnt want to part with the Pug.

But its been something in the back of my mind for ages. Yea Karl would be
that model Type R I go for. Not the older one. EK9 would be nice but would
be a ball ache to own and maintain at the moment. Maybe in the future but
there wouldnt be much point later on in life as theres bigger and better out
there.

Think the EK9 engine swap idea may not be worth the hassle. Was a sweet
and short dream lol.

Either way a decsision will be made soon.
Its just kinda embarassing you know, people ask me all the time why I dont drive
my car. And then taking people out in it, its just a pain explaining why Ive done
what Ive done to it.

[Mikey]

whas embarrising about it rush?

[jpsaxo]

a) You have too much money
b) keep the gti
c) Get throttle boddies and rape type r's in your gti....

[leeroybrown]

TBH your car is running fine exactly mint at the minute

Stick with it until Uni is finished then re-evaluate the situation then

Sticking a ek9 engine into your car is going to cost more money, give you nothing but problems and then there is the resale of it when you get bored again.

Be sensible stick with the gti till Uni is over then relook at your assets, think of the money you could by not sinking into ek9 engine into your car

[rushy_23]

Being stripped out and that. People just dont seem to understand it lol. I think
finally being able to mess with the engine will keep me interested.

I think cause Ive had this goal for the car and cause its kinda been out of reach
after moving out it made it less likely to happen. But due to certain changes of
circumstances again I can afford to do what I planned and more. But is it worth
going for it.

End of the day Ive got to decide something, will have a good think, by Sunday
I need to choose. Going to check a few Type Rs out this week with a mate,
see if they tickle my fancy.

[Mikey]

Being stripped out and that. People just dont seem to understand it lol. I think
finally being able to mess with the engine will keep me interested.

I think cause Ive had this goal for the car and cause its kinda been out of reach
after moving out it made it less likely to happen. But due to certain changes of
circumstances again I can afford to do what I planned and more. But is it worth
going for it.

End of the day Ive got to decide something, will have a good think, by Sunday
I need to choose. Going to check a few Type Rs out this week with a mate,
see if they tickle my fancy.

best option rush mate! just have a dabble and see what you think. i had same with no back seats in my vts! people just look at you like your on smack!

;)

but its what you love so you shouldnt get to worked up about it like

;)

[rushy_23]

a) You have too much money
b) keep the gti
c) Get throttle boddies and rape type r's in your gti....

LOL trust me I spend like mad but still end up saving mad amounts of cash.
Think Im a secret drug dealer in my sleep.

I know your all right, but a change is needed so bad. A change and a change
of image.

[Mikey]

is it the car you dont like or the image having a gti gives of??

[James]

Sell it and buy a proper car.

[RedB]

Rushy i've been thinking exactly along the same lines the last 3 months...

I could have an Audi tbh but dont want to spend the money and find they arn't as much fun...Comfort is a plus but the costs really do add up when service and MOT time comes around ;)

Keep the GTI, get out there and clean her properly. Give the engine bay a detail and plan out what spec you'd go for...Bodies would give healthy figures and you can always add some leather to the interior to soften stuff up :y:

Cage will be sex and your car is a benchmark for others so stick with it and finish uni before making your mind up man

Much love :)

[rushy_23]

Think its the fact that Im 23 now and Im driving around in a kids car. The
stupid idea of sticking a honda engine in was my hopes of making it more manly lol..

Like Cloud said I think I just do want a proper car. But no offence Cloud you
must miss your Saxo?! If you dont then tbh you do need a slap.


I was talking to Shantel about it yesterday, the only point she agrees with is
that the cars very unuseable. But she reckons I will regret it if I sell.
The way Im looking at it once its done its done.

[Kelly]

Rush, could you afford to run the GTi as a weekend/track car then get a 'proper' car for use in the week? Might be an idea considering you will probably regret selling up :)

[jpsaxo]

Rush, could you afford to run the GTi as a weekend/track car then get a 'proper' car for use in the week? Might be an idea considering you will probably regret selling up :)

Thats the way forward if you really want a type r - or just get an every day cheap run around and then enjoy the gti when you can.

We cant see this one go

[rushy_23]

Being honest the GTi doesnt get driven at all these days. But thats probably
cause how uncomfy it is as well as useless for passengers.

I blame you guys now you've made the decision harder to make lol.

[Hanuman]

move on to a mans car.... only thing is tho the type r is shat on mpg figures aint to bad but soon as youll end up booting it then its gonna be alottt lower than the suggested figures

[Karl]

I dont understand,
whys it uncomfy?

its just a loud, fun drive?
but thats all you use it for anyways?
so Keep it?

[rushy_23]

I dont understand,
whys it uncomfy?

its just a loud, fun drive?
but thats all you use it for anyways?
so Keep it?

Its just a lot of maintenance and hassle as well as being uncomfy. Its freezing
in the mornings, the seats sit really low and it does piss you off having to
litterally climb in and out. Harnesses really piss me off.
Ive noticed too that passengers rarely every put the harnesses on when there
in the car. Obviously my missus and close mates do but random people dont..
Probably cause by the time you adjust them your already where u need to be.

Its well noisy on long drives, and being honest cause I take so much care with
it I spent too much time watching over it and cleaning it.


Having a banger that runs well would be a dream come true lol. Could just park
it anywhere and not wash it for months!

Just going to think about it for the week. i should bad rep all of you for making
it harder to choose tbh.

[Karl]

.....Rushy, you need to whack the GTaiiii on the drive, garage or someplace else, and buy yourself a gorgeous builder mk3 fiesta for run arounds.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Ford_Fiesta_MK3.jpg/119px-Ford_Fiesta_MK3.jpg

[raunchz]

dare I mention it - how about some z-car mischief !?? something in the back of your 106 ??

Could be a saucy project, but again would sap up A LOT of money !!

At the end of the day I'd be sad to say bye to my saxo, just due to the time and effort I've put into it, and the grin it puts on my face !!

You'll have good and bad days with your car, but the good days WAY exceed the bad !!!

If I was you I'd keep your 106, as it's lush, and maybe go for some sort of mental engine spec !! Like bodies, and maybe one of the new QEP heads when they are out, they are pushing over 200bhp with Catcam 810's !!

[Karl]

Rushy my lad,
I was in your situation........
Im selling up for a slightly quicker car.
a 172 Cup. :)

[dsh85]

rushyy hows about them new engines developed by psa and bmw that are in the 207 gti and newer mini cooper s!

ive read they have a lot in comman with the tu engine and are 1.6 16v turbo engine but built reliably. ive not seen one attempted and has always been a wonder on my mind wether things would line up etc

read away muker!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_engine

it seems they only share the basic block dimensions but its a start ;)

[rushy_23]

Your all just corrupting me further.

With bodies I said that the most id go for is forged pistons and conrods. Cams
wouldnt be anything more than 708s! (he says)

Danny you okay matey, From what ive read the 207 Turbo engine is quite
bland and not as revvy as you would think? Just what Ive read.

I remember being in this same spot about 6months ago. Jeez man its annoying.

[dsh85]

im okay mate u?
i understand what your going through! maybe your not bored of the feel and intrest in the car but just the same car in itself as i was, no matter how good it looks you get sick of the same sight and find yourself going back over things and realise your wasting money!

im sure a remap tweek would sort that torque problem ;)

[rushy_23]

Think you hit the nail right on the head there Danny. I love it to bits but some
times just feel I need to grow up.

Damn man Im sure I said the exact same thing before!! Litteraly going round in
circles. Somebody delete this thread and shoot me.

[frankie]

keep the gti.

i was really close to selling my vtr, went on a photoshoot, and fell in love with it again, got some major plans for it do, shame father wont let me strip it out :(

[dsh85]

look at me, ive done the supposed grow up thing

4/5 months later im sellin up and seriously considering going back french, i know ive learnt its not about the stereo typical age its about what you want, if im honest i couldnt give a shit what people think of me by what i drive its just a car

as far as pug/citroen goes itll be hardy to match something that has as good running costs in the form of petrol and parts etc especially when youve got yourself a house youll notice the extra costs

suppose this japanese ek9 goes wrong?? where are the parts to get it fixed, some mechancis may be dumbfound and that fact of an import which means specialist with higher charges
not to mention insurance man grinning as you say 'import'

[maynard]

ive just thread through every post in this thread, and rush, it sounds like you want rid. ive been there, but you sort of pull through it, you will regret selling it if you did make that step. keep it mate, keep it!

make it into something rarely seen of maybe never done before. who cares about re sale value or the money it costs to put together when you've got something that you love!

im extremley sensible with my money at only 19 when i know lots of peope like me who aren't, so if you can afford to make the beast bigger - do it! :y:

[dannygti]

go drive it you fool, you will soon fall in love again, but to be honest mate i would put some throttle boddies on it with pistons, rods and cat cams 734's and you will be good for 190bhp (headwork permitting).then i think you would love it again. take it on track then slay some bmw's and porkers and you will love it.just my 2 pence.

[RedB]

go drive it you fool, you will soon fall in love again, but to be honest mate i would put some throttle boddies on it with pistons, rods and cat cams 734's and you will be good for 190bhp (headwork permitting).then i think you would love it again. take it on track then slay some bmw's and porkers and you will love it.just my 2 pence.

Beer for Danny tbh :drink: :p

Keep it and start making some performance progress Rush...Some track time will put a smile on your face like a 7 year old with a lolly bigger than his head ;)

Know you want to man

[BenSilverSaxo]

207 gti engine will be too hard to put in due to all of the electrics and engine management. At the end of the day you can run vts conversions on bodies with stand alone but a modern 207 turbo engine will be really hard if not impossible to get running.

[AlexR]

Buy a 205, put a 2.0 16v or turbo or something in it.

[baker556]

go drive it you fool, you will soon fall in love again, but to be honest mate i would put some throttle boddies on it with pistons, rods and cat cams 734's and you will be good for 190bhp (headwork permitting).then i think you would love it again. take it on track then slay some bmw's and porkers and you will love it.just my 2 pence.

190bhp from that ?! do it do it !! keep the gti its summer soon and your love it :p i bet it puts a smile on your face when you smoke bigger engine cars it would for me :A:

[LEE_VTR1]

rushy you are a fool and you know my thoughts on this
i told you in some txts earlier dont sell up.

i know you enjoy the track beast but maybe its time to move back to standard i mean look at that 106 gti in PFC this month is got full interior with 260bhp im sure that moves like shit of a shovel mate.

think about stuff like this i know you love your GTI and you would miss it alot.

[jpsaxo]

Having a banger that runs well would be a dream come true lol. Could just park
it anywhere and not wash it for months!

Thats exactly what i do with the 106 DIEsel, also makes you appreciate how quick it actualy is compared to most cars on the road once you have a spin in the gti :)

[beastgtir]

I'd go for the Ek9 Type-R.
185bhp with a 10k redline and LSD as standard..
Prices starting at £5k.. I mean can you afford not too?

The looks, the speed.. The driver (ok maybe not the driver) what the fck more could you want lol.
Dont like the ep3's, rather have a dc2/dc5 integra.

And whoever says the vtecs dont have torque are full of blab, yes low down the torque isnt all there but torque x revs = power to the wheels so you rather have a high revving motor which produces a decent amount of torque then one that produces all its talk at say 2000rpm.

Also, the sound of a VTEC. Its just amazing.

[Pat_Vts]

i'l buy your gti off you;)

[Hanuman]

beast said it all..... buy one

[MK2SLAG]

if it is the ek9 type r 1.6 16v b16b 185bhp you are talking about,then your off your head(in a good way mate) that engine is rediculous quick,so i say do it!!

[Karl]

ek9s are nice,
just will be expensive to repair and maintain!

[Hanuman]

its the newer shape isnt it like 02-06? and didnt someone off here buy one in white from the north east a few months ago

[MK2SLAG]

ek9 type r (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/03/honda_civic/image/civic-typer_----.jpg)


isnt this the car/engine hes talking of using.worth a good 7/8k s reg,red recaros,these are quick a cammed vts will not take 1!!!

[MK2SLAG]

EK9 Honda Civic Type R History


1997 Following in the steps of the Honda NSX Type R and the Honda Integra Type R, the EK9 Honda Civic Type R was introduced in Japan on August 22. The EK9 Honda Civic Type R is powered by an exclusively developed 1.6 liter DOHC VTEC B16B engine that makes 185 horsepower at 8200rpm. The car was only released to the Japanese Domestic Market.

The lightweight B16B engine features new valve system allowing higher engine speeds, reduced engine friction, improved breathing, and increased compression ratio. Main features of handling include an increased body rigidity, reduced weight, hard tuned and very stable suspension. Helical LSD, sports tuned ABS, and Potenza RE-01 tires. Also, the EK9 Honda Civic type R is equipped with aero parts, exclusive 5-lug alloy wheels, red RECARO seats, MOMO SRS 368mm steering wheel, a titanium shift knob, and carbon type meter panel.


1997 EK9 Honda Civic Type R
1997 EK9 Honda Civic Type R Interior 1998 There were mild face lift including front and rear design, and center panel design.

[MK2SLAG]

185 bhp from a 1.6 16v standard is impressive,there is no other 1.6 16v engine produced that makes more bhp than that in standard form!!! plus you get a helical lsd as standard,this would be the best 106 in the country if it gets done FACT!!!!!

[craig180]

Think its the fact that Im 23 now and Im driving around in a kids car.

Made me chuckle! Hell I'm almost 30 and driving a kids car!!!

I reckon Honda engione would be a beast in your car, but if your problem is you are sick of your car this would be a complete waste of time.

What I would do is buy a £300 shitter to run and keep the GTi locked up for weekend fun.

Believe me, the reason you are feeling like this is because of the weather. Just wait until summer and you'll be back in love with her again. I guarantee it

[MK2SLAG]

well,ive just spoken to peugeot ecosse,used them before and a few mates ahve gone to them so go to know matt quite well!!! they are thinking to get a b16b engine into the front of a 106 gti would cost in the region of 12-15 grand,custom hubs,spaceframe,mounting points,but they arent willing to get involved in that sort of work!!

to supercharge a 106 gti engine the phase kit costs in the regiong of £5500 upgrading costing an extra few ££££ would take it to 250bhp!!! for the same bhp and doing a turbo conversion it would cost alot more to upgrade the drivetrain and keeping the turbo reliable!!!

[Hanuman]

pointless for that money... completely down the drain unless you have more money than sense, just spend that money on a better quicker car

[Pat_Vts]

pointless for that money... completely down the drain unless you have more money than sense, just spend that money on a better quicker car

i agree tbh a fiesta ST FTW:drink:

[Karl]

Fiesta ST, couldnt see Rushy being happy in one of those,
they feel more tame to drive than a 106 GTaiii.

[jpsaxo]

i agree tbh a fiesta ST FTW:drink:

haha, they are slow compared to a vts/gti. Very under powered cars,

[rushy_23]

12 to 15k eh lol! Well minus the Ecosse Tax from that and Id say roughly 10k.
Sounds stupid but its doable (prob spent that much already on the GTi almost)
but from the research Ive been doing the benifits dont really outweigh other
options available.

I was about to call Pug1off yesterday to cancel the work for next week, but I
couldnt do it. Think that tells me that I have to finish what I started. Just turning
into an ASW thread now really :homo:

Your all right probably will regret it, dont think I'd bother with an EK9 itself (buy
the car) as i would probably keep that on the drive similar to the GTi. See the
EP3 would be good cause I'd only slightly mod it but use it a lot more..

Hmmm. Times running out either way so have to choose soon. A 170bhp TB
setup does sound really tempting though. Would finish the project off nicely
too. Let me think for a bit more.
Its either selling it for the EP3 or keep it and finish it. But being honest I cant
see me selling it after the comments/texts/GF comments/mates advise.

So Mr 180 Im technically good for 7 more years lol?


PS:
I know a few of you have PM'ed me, will get back to you soon but cant reply
while at work :(

[rushy_23]

Oh and hell no to an ST. (no offence :p)

[Karl]

......told you boys that I couldnt see rush in an ST.

[rushy_23]

......told you boys that I couldnt see rush in an ST.

My mullet would outclass it :y:

[craig180]

So Mr 180 Im technically good for 7 more years lol?

(

At least mate :p

[beastgtir]

As long as your happy rush.
I agree the 106/Saxo 'BASE' are kids cars but not the VTS/GTi.
Id have another but they are a tad too small, the ep3 are monsters but very common. With a few bolt ons you can see 220-230 out of them but no LSD unless its an import (Which has 220bhp to begin with!).

Have you thought about an integra DC2/DC5? prices from £4k for 96 spec import dc2's and 8k for 2001+ dc5's..

[Predator_R32]

decisions decisions, keep the gti rushy, you know how many people say they wish they had a saxo or 106 again :)

[b0t13]

keep it mate, and get it boddied, any muppet can go and buy a ep3, which are boring imo, id much rather have a rush-mobile gtaiii, buy a shitter and do silly things with the engine,

if after its all done and ur still not happy, ill pay for all the work done and buy u a macdonalds (okay i wont but u should keep it)

[rushy_23]

LOL your on!

Thats probably my biggest fear, selling it and regretting it. Always has been since
I started thinking about it a while back.

Problem with the DC2 and DC5s is i'd treat them like I currently treat the
GTi - TOO WELL!

The point of changing to a EP3 is to just have a car to drive in as an everyday
car. If somebodies dents it with there door I would screw but not be bothered
as much.

Days when the GTi is outside the flat I watch it from the window like a hawk lol.

I think a cheap runaround would be perfect!

[beastgtir]

I think you need sayers choice of machine for a rundaround meets speed..

[willsy]

Rush you already know my thoughts:

Keep the car

Get all the engine work done, if you get everything done that you've planned and get the 734 (iirc) bodies which are a bit wilder than the 708's then you'll be in the region of 180bhp anyway, with it being a lighter car than the civic by a considerable margin itll fly.

The GTI is too much fun aswel, handling is still a very strong point from these cars, the fun factor throwing it round the bends on a track etc you'd miss too much.

Definately get a little run around and keep the GTI for weekend use as a toy, itll give you more time to do everything you want to it without worrying about it being off the road for so long.

You're so close to perfecting the car (as it if wasnt good enough already- still the only car on saxp id sell mine for) so you'd definately regret not finishing it

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If you're still considering a wilder option, balls to the ek9 engines etc. By the time you've fannied around with it and got everything running right itll have cost you more than the work needed for TB's

For around 8k Z cars could put a turbo'd hyabusa engine in the back which they claim will be kicking out close to 400bhp, 16k rev limit and 0-60 in 3.3secs - although ive not yet seen this done.

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If you do decide to sell up - IM BUYING YOUR SEATS

[AlexB]

rush you know what im gunna say





sell me your car
ill cam body and get stand alone
and you can get a type r


its a good plan!!!

[rushy_23]

Well after our chat yesterday you CAN see where I was coming from.

Matt trust me I know what you mean, I think the answer is to get a crappy
car on the side. Just use that everyday and use the GTi for playtime lol.

Still cant help thinking what a quick comfy car would be like.. Well tbh its
too late to cancel on Pug1off. Cars going there Tuesday. Should come back
quite exciting.


Cheers for all the insight guys. 1.5D would be a bit too intense I reckon Beasty! lol

[jpsaxo]

whats being done Rush?

[Mikey]

such a pointless thread on saxo site when you read through it all! i bet if you went on a ek9 site and said i might be silling up for a ek9 dont know what to do. they would say " sell it ek9's rule", seems to me that the car doesn't make you happy. your keeping coz of all the guys on here saying keep it keep it!! its like pressure on you to TURBO it, boddie it, new engine,!! lol

rush mate you need to go away and have a think. drive a few other cars that take your fancy and go from there! spending more cash on a car your cleary bored of is madness, reading through all this its like your trying to compromise with everyone! do whats right for you mate. not the site

[Jackman]

I think Mikey might speak sense.

[willsy]

I think Mikey might speak sense.

Possibly yes, but considering all the time and money that Rushy has ploughed into the car its not a decision to make lightly.

If it was a bog standard GTI then im sure it would be much more even with the keep/sell up replies from people.

BUT

Its not bog standard, the car means as much to Rush as his Prize winning Mullet (Have you seen it? Its sleak and shiney, sheer beauty- and thats just the Mullet!)

I dont think hes had the best out of it yet.


If it was me, and judging by some of the things hes mentioned before, then:

Insure the GTI as a social/pleasure vehicle to cut down on the insurance

Do everything that you've wanted to do to it, without the worry of being without the car for work etc.

Buy a cheap lil run around thats got a bit of comfort, very good MPG and low tax

If the cheap run around is there purely for that basis then you wont have to worry about where its parked, wont be bothered about any carpak door dents etc and you'll save plenty on fuel costs.

You'll then be free to use the GTI for times when you'll enjoy it.

[Jackman]

Possibly yes, but considering all the time and money that Rushy has ploughed into the car its not a decision to make lightly.

If it was a bog standard GTI then im sure it would be much more even with the keep/sell up replies from people.

BUT

Its not bog standard, the car means as much to Rush as his Prize winning Mullet (Have you seen it? Its sleak and shiney, sheer beauty- and thats just the Mullet!)

I dont think hes had the best out of it yet.

Fully appreciate that! ( and no i haven't seen the mullet yet! hopefully it will be at a carshow near me soon;) )

I just hope he makes the right decision for himself in the end.

[willsy]

Fully appreciate that! ( and no i haven't seen the mullet yet! hopefully it will be at a carshow near me soon;) )

It is rather special. Its common courtesy to stroke it for him too out of appreciation...

[rushy_23]

Cheers I think guys... :ponder:

I know where your coming from Mikey mate. But I never said I wanted an EK9 Civic lol!
Its the EP3 the newer one I wanted, and only reason I was looking at them was
cause I want something similar to the GTi but a bit more comfy. But after reading
through the comments and really sitting down about it all. Best bet is to just
get another car as a cheap run around.

I wouldnt mod the Civic at all really if I got it. Its not that Im bored with the
GTi. Far from it as I love it to bits. Its just that its so uncomfy and not passenger
friendly. (said that more than enough times now)

Going to the Cinema for exmaple dressed up with the missus strapped down
with buckets and harnsses is a bit of a joke like...

Matts more than hit the nail on the Mullet. The car does mean so much to me
and its so close(ish) to being where I want it.
2 ticks left: Engine/Bodywork - Then thats it!!!

Its not that I wanted to just hear "keep the GTI"
I seriously needed to think of my options. A lots happened since Dec, moving
out and some other stuff. So my situation has been bouncing around a bit. But
after some more news in Feb my situation changed all over again. So it was kinda
like a fresh start with the change too. But based on the comments and my own
decisions Ive chose that a cheap runaround is needed. I can live with that.

I test drove 2 Civic Type R's they look the nuts and are really really nice
inside. But tbh they didnt feel much quicker than the GTi. I took one of the guys out
in mine and he said it was mental lol. I reckon hes gonna strip his EP3 now lol.

Last time Im gonna say it now but cheers everyone. Decision made! Might
actually get the thread closed cause I hate these long defensive posts!

[AlexB]

so u buying another car and keeping the gti as a bit of fun

good choice!!