someone must know the answer

[SAM33R]

are rear brake shoes self adjusting?

i.e. do they move out themselves or do you have to calibrate them whilst fitted?

thanks

sam

[Predator_R32]

do you mean the piston which pushes out???

[SAM33R]

na mate, you know the shoes have to be near the drum so you get better braking

i put some shoes into my bros car today and a cylinder for it to clear MOT

not sure if theres enough braking efficiency at the rear drums as i didnt remember adjusting the shoes outwards, i was assumnig that they self adjust as you push the brake or is that bullshit?

thanks

sam

[Predator_R32]

so with removing and replacing the cylinder did you bleed the brakes??

[SAM33R]

erm :oops: need to do that tomorrow lol

still confused as to whether i needed to adjust the shoes before mounting the drum, it had a tooth gear on the shoe and the housing it mounts on...

help me :( lol

[SAM33R]

anyone else ?

please

[Predator_R32]

i havent done drum brakes since i had my ax about 5 year ago mate, i do have a haynes manual though ill have a look in there andlet you know

definately bleed the brakes though

[SAM33R]

thanks mate, help much appreciated...

its just well frustrating and i thought i'd done everything right but then realised that they might have needed adjusting

:y:sam

[Gabbastard]

Nah theyre self adjusting. just pull the handbrake a few times then repeatedly pump the pedal to allow them to adjust.

[Gabbastard]

though theres a manual adjuster down the bottom if braking is inadequate.

[tif992ss]

New shoes need manually adjusting when you first fit them , adjust them up as much as you can , WHILST leaving the drum free to spin . They can be little sods to adjust correctly and you may need to pull the drum off a couple of times .
Aid

[SAM33R]

how do i adjust them as there a bastard to move out

[Predator_R32]

actually just looking at the haynes gabbs is right, just says to depress the pedal several times

you bled the system today??

[SAM33R]

thanks mate :y: very much appreciated, hope i can read it lol :)

[Predator_R32]

sorry mate i edited the post

bleed the system, does the hand brake work ok??

[SAM33R]

yeah im about to bleed it now pred

i dont have no hose pipe though to cover it

im just thinkin the spongyness is cos i didnt adjust them to start off with

thanks

sam

[SAM33R]

and handbrake is tight and works :y:

[Predator_R32]

yeah probablies down to the brakes not being bled mate

[SAM33R]

done all that today, pedal feels so much better now :y:

last problem is the handbrake, there no play in the handbrake lever at all

i think the shoes need to be adjusted, i.e. pushed out by remving the drum so there just about touching the inner drum when its put back on...

there is a gear mechanism of some sort inside but not too sure how to go about it...


thanks for help

sam

[Mark51]

^^ you need to adjust the rear shoes so they are just very very slightly touching the drum mate. has the handbrake cable been adjusted in the past?

[SAM33R]

na i aint adjusted it yet mate, just been doing the work for my younger bro...

how do i go about adjust the shoes???

thanks :y: sam

[Mark51]

there is a manual adjuster that you just need to turn with a flat head screw driver. its hard to explain without a pic, lol

[SAM33R]

hmmmm

wear does the flat head screw driver go?

have i gotta remove the drums?

also can the shoes be adjusted back and forth i.e. just say first time i over do them?

help much appreciated

sam

[Mark51]

theres a spinny thing like a wheel that you need to turn to adjust them.

yes you have got to remove the drums

yes they can be re-adjusted.

are we talking about the handbrake or the brakes here?

[SAM33R]

rear shoes, the handbrake is ok ish atm but the shoes really need to be pushed out a bit more so the handbrake also catches properly

[Mark51]

if you dont want to take the drums off again then you can adjust the handbrake cable under the car using a 13mm spanner. id only do this if the handbrake is abit "slack"

[SAM33R]

handbrake is tight as fuk mate lol

im just unsure as to whether the rears will go through MOT

and whether the handbrake will do either

:(

lol

thanks

sam

just to add, when i fitted the new shoes, i didnt adjust them thinking they were self adjusting and gonna touch the drums by itself :oops:

[Mark51]

^^ in theory they should do but it never works which is why you need to adjust them yourself.

[SAM33R]

thanks for the help Mark

will give it a shot tommorrow

repped :y:

sam