AlexR
2nd April 2008, 19:55
Please people put the fitment codes down for your pads that go in your uprated brakes. You must specify what model/models your brakes are fitted to or if 4 pots the make and type and also the disk size, do not bother posting unless you know all these details.
The numerical code is the same for all pads of the same make so a set of ferodo DS2500s product code is FCP876H, the code is FCP876, the H denotes that they are DS2500. With mintex the codes differ: MDB1662 will get you std pads, MDB1662 M1144 is M1144s strangely, MDB1662 M1155 is erm hmmm yeah! etc
My personal preferences for road cars is the std OE spec pads, firstly they only cost £15, also they work perfectly from cold and providing you have good fluid they will take a lot of effort to overheat and also should not eat the disks.
For fast road/light track use i would move onto ferodo DS2500 or mintex M1144, these have higher friction coefficients so provide more braking force and also the compounds are designed to offer better braking at higher temperatures than road pads, i personally have never been a fan of EBC brakes, some people swear by them, some against - just like yoko A539s some people love, some hate.
For hard track use with minimal/no road use i would move onto light race compounds such as ferodo DS3000 and mintex M1155, i know for a fact M1155 are not road legal, if you crash and the investigators work out they are those pads in your brakes they will void your insurance! just like any other completely illegal parts. This is because they have shown to not provide enough braking force from very low temps to be deemed safe for road use, if you are clever and lightly use the brakes as soon as you drive down the road then they will have some temp in them should you need to do any emergency braking whereas if you were to say drive down the road and having not used the brakes at all, need to do an emergency stop there will be no heat in the braking system so it is likely you won't be stopping quickly at all as these pads are not designed for this.
For full on race cars you can get hawk pads, pagid do some good full race pads too and mintex do full race pads as well as semi race M1166 and M1177s
You will find that Mintex and EBC keep the largest range of pad fitments so it is likely that no matter what brakes you have they can do some uprated pads.
Wearing in pads properly is extremely important, i cannot stress this enough!
This guide below is superb, to carry out the bedding in properly you MUST follow the rules exactly, never come to a complete stop with the brakes applied, when you come to stop you should use the handbrake once you get down to a few mph, and of course if you replaced rear pads and disks then you should do the final decelleration as lightly as possible then park the car in gear without using the handbrake.
CLICK HERE to find out how to wear in brakes (http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedincontents.shtml)
Lets start it off:
Std VTR/S brakes ATE calipers(not very early VTRs but all VTS's)
247mm disks, also fitted to most early 306s and some late ones too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB1808.gif
Ferodo: FCP876H/R (H=DS2500, R=DS3000)
Mintex: MDB1662
Pagid: E1620
EBC: Green stuff: DP2948
Red stuff ceramic: DP3948C
OMP: OT/7876
Common 266mm conversion, lucas calipers
266mm disks, fitted to some 306 XSis, most 306 estates, xsara estates, some xsara VTS's' and VTR's, Citroen berlingo TD, pug partner TD etc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB1812.gif
Ferodo: FCP1112H/R (H=DS2500, R=DS3000)
Mintex: MDB1812
EBC: Greenstuff: DP21104
OMP: OT/7226
266mm with Bosch calipers type 1:
Various versions of: 206, 306 and xsara
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2012.gif
Ferodo: FCP1370H/R
Mintex: MDB2012
EBC greenstuff: DP21234
266mm with Bosch calipers type 2:
Various models: C2, xsara, picasso, 206, 307 and partner van
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2183.gif
Mintex: MDB2183
OMP: OT/7979
266mm with Bosch calipers type 3:
Some 206 & 206 CCs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2584.gif
Mintex: MDB2584
Common 283mm conversion aka 306 GTi6, lucas calipers same design as 266mm above but bigger carrier to space caliper out more, pads are same shape but deeper
283mm disks, fitted to later 306 GTi6 and Xsara VTS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB1732.gif
Ferodo: FCP1063H/R (H=DS2500, R=DS3000)
Mintex: MDB1732
EBC: greenstuff: DP21047
OMP: OT/7223
Other 283mm setup bosch caliper
Various models: C2, xsara, picasso, 206, 307 and partner van
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2283.gif
Mintex: MDB2283
OMP: OT/7979
Other 283mm setup bosch caliper
Various models: Xsara, coupe and picasso 2.0 VTS and 2.0 HDi, 307 2.0 XSi and 2.0 HDi
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2628.gif
Mintex: MDB2628
Hispec 4 pots Billet 4 calipers
283mm disks(larger disks use different pads). Volvo 200 240, 242, 244, 245, 262, 264, 265 ; 01/73>08/93 lucas caliper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MGB576.gif
Mintex: MGB576 - perfect fit
Ferodo: FCP 9H/R - do not fit properly, not listed by anyone as proper volvo 120/240 fitment.
Pagid: FR-5116 - fitment not verified
EBC: Greenstuff: DP2143 - apparently good fitment
I'll add a section about discs when i can be arsed.
The numerical code is the same for all pads of the same make so a set of ferodo DS2500s product code is FCP876H, the code is FCP876, the H denotes that they are DS2500. With mintex the codes differ: MDB1662 will get you std pads, MDB1662 M1144 is M1144s strangely, MDB1662 M1155 is erm hmmm yeah! etc
My personal preferences for road cars is the std OE spec pads, firstly they only cost £15, also they work perfectly from cold and providing you have good fluid they will take a lot of effort to overheat and also should not eat the disks.
For fast road/light track use i would move onto ferodo DS2500 or mintex M1144, these have higher friction coefficients so provide more braking force and also the compounds are designed to offer better braking at higher temperatures than road pads, i personally have never been a fan of EBC brakes, some people swear by them, some against - just like yoko A539s some people love, some hate.
For hard track use with minimal/no road use i would move onto light race compounds such as ferodo DS3000 and mintex M1155, i know for a fact M1155 are not road legal, if you crash and the investigators work out they are those pads in your brakes they will void your insurance! just like any other completely illegal parts. This is because they have shown to not provide enough braking force from very low temps to be deemed safe for road use, if you are clever and lightly use the brakes as soon as you drive down the road then they will have some temp in them should you need to do any emergency braking whereas if you were to say drive down the road and having not used the brakes at all, need to do an emergency stop there will be no heat in the braking system so it is likely you won't be stopping quickly at all as these pads are not designed for this.
For full on race cars you can get hawk pads, pagid do some good full race pads too and mintex do full race pads as well as semi race M1166 and M1177s
You will find that Mintex and EBC keep the largest range of pad fitments so it is likely that no matter what brakes you have they can do some uprated pads.
Wearing in pads properly is extremely important, i cannot stress this enough!
This guide below is superb, to carry out the bedding in properly you MUST follow the rules exactly, never come to a complete stop with the brakes applied, when you come to stop you should use the handbrake once you get down to a few mph, and of course if you replaced rear pads and disks then you should do the final decelleration as lightly as possible then park the car in gear without using the handbrake.
CLICK HERE to find out how to wear in brakes (http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedincontents.shtml)
Lets start it off:
Std VTR/S brakes ATE calipers(not very early VTRs but all VTS's)
247mm disks, also fitted to most early 306s and some late ones too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB1808.gif
Ferodo: FCP876H/R (H=DS2500, R=DS3000)
Mintex: MDB1662
Pagid: E1620
EBC: Green stuff: DP2948
Red stuff ceramic: DP3948C
OMP: OT/7876
Common 266mm conversion, lucas calipers
266mm disks, fitted to some 306 XSis, most 306 estates, xsara estates, some xsara VTS's' and VTR's, Citroen berlingo TD, pug partner TD etc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB1812.gif
Ferodo: FCP1112H/R (H=DS2500, R=DS3000)
Mintex: MDB1812
EBC: Greenstuff: DP21104
OMP: OT/7226
266mm with Bosch calipers type 1:
Various versions of: 206, 306 and xsara
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2012.gif
Ferodo: FCP1370H/R
Mintex: MDB2012
EBC greenstuff: DP21234
266mm with Bosch calipers type 2:
Various models: C2, xsara, picasso, 206, 307 and partner van
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2183.gif
Mintex: MDB2183
OMP: OT/7979
266mm with Bosch calipers type 3:
Some 206 & 206 CCs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2584.gif
Mintex: MDB2584
Common 283mm conversion aka 306 GTi6, lucas calipers same design as 266mm above but bigger carrier to space caliper out more, pads are same shape but deeper
283mm disks, fitted to later 306 GTi6 and Xsara VTS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB1732.gif
Ferodo: FCP1063H/R (H=DS2500, R=DS3000)
Mintex: MDB1732
EBC: greenstuff: DP21047
OMP: OT/7223
Other 283mm setup bosch caliper
Various models: C2, xsara, picasso, 206, 307 and partner van
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2283.gif
Mintex: MDB2283
OMP: OT/7979
Other 283mm setup bosch caliper
Various models: Xsara, coupe and picasso 2.0 VTS and 2.0 HDi, 307 2.0 XSi and 2.0 HDi
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MDB2628.gif
Mintex: MDB2628
Hispec 4 pots Billet 4 calipers
283mm disks(larger disks use different pads). Volvo 200 240, 242, 244, 245, 262, 264, 265 ; 01/73>08/93 lucas caliper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/kneaster/Guides/Pads/MGB576.gif
Mintex: MGB576 - perfect fit
Ferodo: FCP 9H/R - do not fit properly, not listed by anyone as proper volvo 120/240 fitment.
Pagid: FR-5116 - fitment not verified
EBC: Greenstuff: DP2143 - apparently good fitment
I'll add a section about discs when i can be arsed.