petrol prices and tax

[littleracer]

my mates on skylineowners forum which are organsising a petrol and tax protest in london near houses of parliement.
block roads in area and demonstrate that us as british citizens won't stand up for the goverments crap.
We are the ones that hold the power not them.
Lets show them what us motorists are about and stand up to these bullies and kill joys in arms.
these can be done anywere in london really but dates and times because we want everyone from saxperience to come and if anyone is part of or knowsomeone part another forum then spread the word.
Our time to have our say is coming.

Iam thinking of augusty sort of time?

[MAS]

u know i been up for one for damn ages even though im not driving atm but i can imagine what its like as me bro owns a bmw m3 on a 08 plate and his paying 308pounds for road tax and when it comes to fuel dont ask as his always at the petrol station lol and its the same situation with other family members too but most ppl on this site drives saxos so thats like max engine size 1.6 and thats nothing big until we get to the real things and at that stage the petrol, tax and insurance might be so much we would be better off walking !

[littleracer]

u know i been up for one for damn ages even though im not driving atm but i can imagine what its like as me bro owns a bmw m3 on a 08 plate and his paying 308pounds for road tax and when it comes to fuel dont ask as his always at the petrol station lol and its the same situation with other family members too but most ppl on this site drives saxos so thats like max engine size 1.6 and thats nothing big until we get to the real things and at that stage the petrol, tax and insurance might be so much we would be better off walking !

it don't matter how big your engine is,rip off is rip off,everyone is paying like 1.16 a liter.
and tax is stupid really,no justification.
We can't sit on our arses any longer and twiddle our thumbs with our heads in the sand.
WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
but it takes everyone to get involved.

[MAS]

it don't matter how big your engine is,rip off is rip off,everyone is paying like 1.16 a liter.
and tax is stupid really,no justification.
We can't sit on our arses any longer and twiddle our thumbs with our heads in the sand.
WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
but it takes everyone to get involved.

but this is what me dads saying he said even if the goverment took the fuel upto like 3 pounds a litre no one would give a shite as everyone needs a car on a daily basis i know what ur saying and i know we lot are getting ripped off at the same time but have u noticed not everyone is bothered theres only a few hundred ppl out there maybe other than that the ppl think its ok which is really weird

[littleracer]

but this is what me dads saying he said even if the goverment took the fuel upto like 3 pounds a litre no one would give a shite as everyone needs a car on a daily basis i know what ur saying and i know we lot are getting ripped off at the same time but have u noticed not everyone is bothered theres only a few hundred ppl out there maybe other than that the ppl think its ok which is really weird

people won't keep paying it because we won't be able to afford it.
britain so far has bent over and said do us up the bum,the brittish people have no back bone,no other european country would stand for it.
lorries would block roads.
ITS TIME WE SAID NO,AND NO MEANS NO.
Anyways i don't know why your against it.
just put your name down and help ourselfs and stop being dictated to.
were meant to be a democracy.

my names down for a road block in london.

1.littleracer

[littleracer]

Iam getting proper pissed off the more i think about things.
All i fecking hear day in day out,TV,radio is charitys run in this country to help other countrys.
All i hear is the goverment saying were going to save the world,fight all the wars,give all the answeres to global warming,terror is coming etc etc,yet the goverment can't even do the basic of things like protect our shores from illegal imigrants and general imigrants.
The goverment can't even get our own people out of poverty.
How the feck do we afford to help others.
schools hospitals NHS has all suffered from the iraq war not to mention much in need of improvement public transport.
Stop helping and fighting other countrys and use charitys in this country to help the people of this country.
Stop benifits top people who have no illnesses,medical issues etc,if the doc says your healthy to work,you work if you don't tuff.
The whole system is worked to against the average working citizen.
i know that your probably thinking whats this got to do with petrol and tax but it all adds up.

we do more for others we have to pay for it,thats taxes and that includes petrol tax etc.

[kristel10589]

Iam getting proper pissed off the more i think about things.
All i fecking hear day in day out,TV,radio is charitys run in this country to help other countrys.
All i hear is the goverment saying were going to save the world,fight all the wars,give all the answeres to global warming,terror is coming etc etc,yet the goverment can't even do the basic of things like protect our shores from illegal imigrants and general imigrants.
The goverment can't even get our own people out of poverty.
How the feck do we afford to help others.
schools hospitals NHS has all suffered from the iraq war not to mention much in need of improvement public transport.
Stop helping and fighting other countrys and use charitys in this country to help the people of this country.
Stop benifits top people who have no illnesses,medical issues etc,if the doc says your healthy to work,you work if you don't tuff.
The whole system is worked to against the average working citizen.
i know that your probably thinking whats this got to do with petrol and tax but it all adds up.

we do more for others we have to pay for it,thats taxes and that includes petrol tax etc.

You should be the PM :y:

[littleracer]

You should be the PM :y:

i wish lol.
This country would be so different.
we'd have more drag strips and tracks and wel encourage chavs to race there cars if they think there so good.
borders will be more secure.
imigrant control will be enforced.wel have just the people we need.
the everyday worker will be taxed less and the lazy fukkas who have nothing wrong with them will be forced to fight for the right to be a uk citizen.
I would cut this torrorism crap,someone threatens us?wel be the first to move,but not send 1000000 of soldiers in,just one bang over and done with.
i will find some remote island for all the do gooders,tree huggers etc so they can ruin there own lives.

now put your name down for this lol.

[Nathan]

Id join this tbh, sick of the whole road tax and petrol price situatuion!

Labour FTL

[Barry123]

yeahhhhh fuck the government.

























no. it won't work... love the way skyline owners arent exactly renound for their economical vehicle choice.... then have the cheek to get fussy about fuel costs. I mean the pretence of the taxation is to get people using the car less and make more economical choice for their vehicle.... :err:

and yes I'm not a fan of the fuel costs either before you bad rep my ass

[Viper]

haha

when this happens, please show me pictures of them being arrested for blocking the highways and causing a public disturbance :y:

[Mikey]

got to make your point i guess...

democracy ftw

[littleracer]

i agree to a certain extant,but it don't matter what you drive be it a lada or a pagani zonda,fuel prices are out of hand thanks to this country having the privilage of being one of the highest taxed countrys in europe and probably the world.


yeahhhhh fuck the government.
























no. it won't work... love the way skyline owners arent exactly renound for their economical vehicle choice.... then have the cheek to get fussy about fuel costs. I mean the pretence of the taxation is to get people using the car less and make more economical choice for their vehicle.... :err:

and yes I'm not a fan of the fuel costs either before you bad rep my ass

[Barry123]

2nd highest costs in the world apparently

not being funny but weening ourselves off fuel now means a hell of a lot less shit for us in the future... serious here.

Although I agree that i think the government hasn't really thought it through properly nor actually gives much of a monkeys about the future and our way of life.

[Nathan]

Ads what if up with your avatar lad!!

tbh i can see where your coming from, and it wont achieve much, but there has to be some way to sort this out,

i think the tax on it remains rediculous because of the northern rock situation tbh.:n:

[littleracer]

haha

when this happens, please show me pictures of them being arrested for blocking the highways and causing a public disturbance :y:

why?isn't this country 'meant' to be a democracy?
iam surprised the amount of people against TBH just reinforces my point that alot of people in this country eigther don't care,can't be fucked or what ever else.
No wander the goverment rape us all the time,especially us motorists.easy targets have the right to fight lol.

[Mikey]

well ive been told that by october petrol will be at 1.50 a litre!!

that is fcuking bad news!!

and tbh with this rise everything will go up, as delivery companys higher their prices coz they are paying more for the diesel!!

its out of control

[Viper]

dont care?

haha, yeah, i love paying 119.9 for my diesel. would hate to pay less!

i would love to see lower prices, but the government wont change it, no matter how many skylines are outside their building

[matt_vtr_15]

id be up for it just for the laugh tbh... petrol prices are fooking stupid!!!

have been for a while now they just shot up like 20p a litre from knowhere..

i am an apprentice architectural technician and was in the 10% tax bracket... now gordon brown the faggot has put my tax straight up to 20% i hate that penis tbh

[Mikey]

matt im a trainee civil / site surveyor...same boat dude lol

[littleracer]

well ive been told that by october petrol will be at 1.50 a litre!!

that is fcuking bad news!!

and tbh with this rise everything will go up, as delivery companys higher their prices coz they are paying more for the diesel!!

its out of control

And then were do we,the publi draw the line,like the goverments rant,global warming that and this,we got to act now etc etc.
we have also got to act now.
I feel like iam losing a lost cause really.:wall:

[Danr]

It's not going to change tbh. The skyline owners will all get arrested.

If you hate it buy an aygo or something.

[Barry123]

why?isn't this country 'meant' to be a democracy?
iam surprised the amount of people against TBH just reinforces my point that alot of people in this country eigther don't care,can't be fucked or what ever else.
No wander the goverment rape us all the time,especially us motorists.easy targets hae the right to fight lol.

yep democracy... but... if we had uber cheap fuel say 1p per litre of something daft.

how would we fund our great, ultra clean, NHS?
how would we beable to bail out our highly efficient 'private' rail operators?

ok ok I'm being synical here and not really putting out a good argument. but additionally we'd be consuming a fair bit more fuel than we currently are... do you occasionally think to yourself 'do i need to drive? can i just walk it?'

if you don't then the prices need to be higher. if you do then it's working and you're using your car less.

it's a bastard but we've had it good for a while now to be honest.

[Mikey]

you probably are mate...people in the country are to relaxed...personall i think this goverment has took the piss!!

gordon brown knows he's gunna get battered next election FACT!!

we pay all this tax...yet i still sit on traffic going home on shite motorways and lumpy roads

[Mikey]

my dad pays 6500 a month from his business, thwy wont even give him a bin!! he has to pay extra...

[Barry123]

we pay all this tax...yet i still sit on traffic going home on shite motorways and lumpy roads

yeah I'm with on this particular... I cycle a fair bit and guildford roads are UNBELIEVEABLY shite, I mean complete and utter farmtrack style shite. I got a council tax bill a month ago or so, so I sent them a letter informing them that their roads need sorting out, or I'm likely to fall off my bike and be injured - basically hinted that I'll sue if I come off.

haven't heard anything back about the bill yet :)

[littleracer]

It's not going to change tbh. The skyline owners will all get arrested.

If you hate it buy an aygo or something.

lol,my mate has a skyline and there organising this,from seeing this iv put it on here for everyone to see.if you spread the word and everyone comes together they arent really goona arrest 500 people?
but it may just make a difference showing the goverment that WE wont bend over backwards for them.

TBH thi isnt really getting anywere but iam going with the skyline owners club and whoever goes.
Atleast then i can say i tried TBH.
Cant wait when i move out of this not so 'great britain'.
iam fully a british citizen and iam ashamed TBTH.
This country is like a dumping ground.
What pisses me off is that goverment don't take responsibility.
the public have een bought up in a way that they think what goverment say is true and no one can fight it.
public don't think they can make a difference,well if that was true why the hell do they spend thousands on publicity come voting day?

[Mikey]

yeah I'm with on this particular... I cycle a fair bit and guildford roads are UNBELIEVEABLY shite, I mean complete and utter farmtrack style shite. I got a council tax bill a month ago or so, so I sent them a letter informing them that their roads need sorting out, or I'm likely to fall off my bike and be injured - basically hinted that I'll sue if I come off.

haven't heard anything back about the bill yet :)

haha!!

yeah when you give em sommet to think about they just run and hide!!

try and pull a fast one by dropping a nice bill on your door mat!!

:boxing:

[bbewekim]

Cutting back on fuel... wont do us any favours as the other countries will just use up what we are trying to use wisely... we dont all drive round 5ltr v8's do we.

Petrol/ Derv price is rediculous, seen a good 20p increase in last few months... spoke to guy a shell the other day he said its taking the piss he looked in the diary and checked all of the price increase. a 20litre fill up costs me near 25quid now :|WTF! when i started driving we were all moaning about 84.9 haha. the economic state of the country is real bad at the moment... my view on that is... spend less abroad and help ourselves. job done.

government are pants!

take our plates off... baseball caps... go to the garages... nice 60quid fill up... walk away :P.

[Viper]

why would the government give your dad a bin? HAHA

littleracer. there is no point in saying that we have to act now, as to be perfectly honest, you can do fuck all

[Mikey]

a wheely bin for out side his works....they told him to pay extra!! even though he pays 6500 a month...for what? he gets no services!!

[Viper]

oh, i see :)

thats fair enough to complain about that. the bastards

[littleracer]

you probably are mate...people in the country are to relaxed...personall i think this goverment has took the piss!!

gordon brown knows he's gunna get battered next election FACT!!

we pay all this tax...yet i still sit on traffic going home on shite motorways and lumpy roads

I don't believe its all gordens fought.
when blair wanted out of office before HES term was up they should have forced him to stay.
blair has left gorden and this country in a deep shit.
atleast we got rid of ken as mayer so hopefully no further congestion charges will be planned.

[Mikey]

they are trying to get everyone in the same shite car running on grass or cow shit! loads of cameras everywere, armed forces are treat like shit, couple of billion illegal imagrants taking all the jobs!!

the place is fucked

[littleracer]

why would the government give your dad a bin? HAHA

littleracer. there is no point in saying that we have to act now, as to be perfectly honest, you can do fuck all

yep,i can do fuck all,just like the rest of the country can do fuck all.
anyways i just finished a 10 hour shift and am past tired like almost callapsing so catch ya later.

[Danr]

Did you know no one in the current Government has actually had a job outside of politics. How does that work?

[littleracer]

they are trying to get everyone in the same shite car running on grass or cow shit! loads of cameras everywere, armed forces are treat like shit, couple of billion illegal imagrants taking all the jobs!!

the place is fucked

totally agree,this country is fucked.
future really is in another country.
To succeed here you need to be damn poor or damn rich.
if your just on average wage or even a litle higher they tax the fuck outta ya,and this is a labour goverment,HA

[Nathan]

couple of billion illegal imagrants taking all the jobs!!

the place is fucked

your not joking, my other half has been after a job for a good 3 months now as she finished her 2 and a half year college course.

she has some very good grades behind her and wanted a job in I.C.T admin or along the lines of, shes tried and still got nothing.

Its got to the point now where she will even settle for shop work as shes so pissed off with being at home.

How i would love to pack it all up, and live next to the nurburgring:y:

[littleracer]

your not joking, my other half has been after a job for a good 3 months now as she finished college her 2 and a half year course.

she has some very good grades behind her and wanted a job in I.C.T admin or along the lines of, shes tried and still got nothing.

Its got to the point now where she will even settle for shop work as shes so pissed off with being at home.

How i would love to pack it all up, and live next to the nurburgring:y:

you get treated better else were as an imigrant then what this country treats you as a citien,so true,i wander how that works?
oh yeah this goverment is greed greed greed imho but iam sure iam not the only one.

[Hanuman]

petrol n diesel prices make me cry, i drive passed asda every day and over the last month its literally been going up at least 8 times, went from 106 for diesel to 108 and stuck for a while then it flew to 112, then 114 then 115 recently (when everwhere went up) now it went to 117, about 5days ago drove passed this morning...... 118. they fkn put the price up per DAY! this country is a fkn joke, i hope who ever does this taxing on it literally gets assasinated! NO JOKE! how are people supposed to live! get a train or bus? oh yea because they are putting the prices of them down and making service better so people use em?/ NO! they put the prices up and keep the service how they want it!

[littleracer]

whole country is fucked TBH and anyone disagrees or neg reps me then your prob a retard or a laboure goverments arse licker or an asylam seeker.

[Mikey]

australia ALL THE WAY!!!

[Mystic]

and make more economical choice for their vehicle.... :err:


Not really man, all the newer 'greener' cars are getting stuffed over tax because they are post 2001 & all the bangers pre 2001 are cheaper to tax and puff and chug fumes happily.

Not to mention the really old cars like my mini dont even pay tax, or need to sit emission tests for MOTs or anything :P

[kelvanator1]

Petrol is a joke atm, and the government is well gay..

Need to sort it out


The greener cars are gay anyway!!

[Danr]

Petrol is a joke atm, and the government is well gay..

Need to sort it out


The greener cars are gay anyway!!

closet queer with all that gay usage....

[Danhunt]

I would be up for it. If i could afford the petrol to get there

[djawesome123]

yep democracy... but... if we had uber cheap fuel say 1p per litre of something daft.

how would we fund our great, ultra clean, NHS?
how would we beable to bail out our highly efficient 'private' rail operators?

ok ok I'm being synical here and not really putting out a good argument. but additionally we'd be consuming a fair bit more fuel than we currently are... do you occasionally think to yourself 'do i need to drive? can i just walk it?'

if you don't then the prices need to be higher. if you do then it's working and you're using your car less.

it's a bastard but we've had it good for a while now to be honest.

We have never had it good, the government is always trying to help out other countries and hasnt realised what a state their own country is in. And no-one is saying fuel tax has to be cut so that the nhs and (shitty) public transport cant be funded, but why cant they just reduce fuel prices down to something more reasonable like 85p a litre.

No other countries are going to give 2 shits about what happens to the environment so as far as i see it we are saving our petrol to be used by foreign countries (such as america)

As for your views on driving, it may be fine for you living in the middle of a city and being able to cycle everywhere or get the bus but what about everyoune else that doesnt have access to public transport and cant just get on a bike and cycle as its too far away?

Cutting back on fuel... wont do us any favours as the other countries will just use up what we are trying to use wisely... we dont all drive round 5ltr v8's do we.

Petrol/ Derv price is rediculous, seen a good 20p increase in last few months... spoke to guy a shell the other day he said its taking the piss he looked in the diary and checked all of the price increase. a 20litre fill up costs me near 25quid now :|WTF! when i started driving we were all moaning about 84.9 haha. the economic state of the country is real bad at the moment... my view on that is... spend less abroad and help ourselves. job done.

government are pants!

take our plates off... baseball caps... go to the garages... nice 60quid fill up... walk away :P.

Have to agree with you there its just fucking stupid. The government wastes far too much money funding pointless wars and helping out 3rd world countries. I cant see the point in doing this at all when they pass the cost of it onto us. I personally as a student do not want to be paying so that achmed and his family can come over here, take out jobs and drag our country down further. government needs to sort its act out tbh

whole country is fucked TBH and anyone disagrees or neg reps me then your prob a retard or a laboure goverments arse licker or an asylam seeker.

Again I agree with you but I doubt much will happen soon because the typical british mindset is to bury there heads in the sand (just like some of the contributers to this thread) people either cant be arsed or take the "im only one person what can i do" approach to everything. Too many of us are just accepting what the government tells us to do without questioning the reasons behind it

[djmartin]

wait a sec after what i been readin i come to this.


Skylines parked up outside the goverment.

SKYLINES!!!!!!!!!!!
they will linstantly say oh look the real fast n furious crew are here to spoil the day hahaha.now if the cars where range rovers,bmw's etc then yeh ok but skylines will make the matter worse as all they will say is they want the fuel cheaper so they can race around like idiots (type skyline in youtube) and that answers itself.

plus reaosn out tax is so High is we are not part of the Eu so the goverment can charge what the hell they want as they dont have to follow no special EU code crap thingy.

last bit most of england (not scotland) fuel comes from over seas we actually have loads of fuel but its not been brought out the pipe lines as we are keeping it as a back up plan sort of thing when fuel runs out all over the place lol.

[Gabbastard]

America+fuel prices going too high = boycott. Result, cheaper fuel.

France+ fuel prices going too high= blockade by lorries and farmers. Result, cheaper fuel.

Britain + fuel prices going too high= keep buying it, the public transport system is wank, too many people commute and theres an overwhelming need for cars. That, coupled with the bend over and take it attitude of the British means the prices are just going to keep going up, regardless of market circumstances.

[Gabbastard]

We're not part of the EU? When did we opt out.

[Barry123]

Not really man, all the newer 'greener' cars are getting stuffed over tax because they are post 2001 & all the bangers pre 2001 are cheaper to tax and puff and chug fumes happily.

Not to mention the really old cars like my mini dont even pay tax, or need to sit emission tests for MOTs or anything :P

I was referring to just the fuel taxation... sushhhh about the other stuff :P


whole country is fucked TBH and anyone disagrees or neg reps me then your prob a retard or a laboure goverments arse licker or an asylam seeker.

It's not fucked, it's just reality.

I know I'm coming across as some labour loving arse licker, who loves to see people struggle to make ends meet... but I'm not, I'm an arrogant, i guess, conservative arselicker in my actual views. I'm sure if I'm a retard though... debatable maybe...

but the fact remains... super taxation or not. We're fucked if we continue to gobble fuel at the rate we're doing it, and we can't do anything about it. Fuel is finite not infinite.

We've had it great for a long time, we've successfully shat all over the middle east and the 3rd world for their precious resources and now the honeymoon is over. if you can't afford to run your car... get a cheaper one that you can afford to run

what's that?
'nooooz butz I wantz faaaaaast carz'

tough shit. you want a fast car, pay for it. accept the costs involved and stop complaining. every other person has to pay as well, you should be thankful you have the luxuary of driving a car at all. Because before long we won't be have this luxuary.

Secondly, yep there is a lot of taxation but you can't avoid the fact that the OIL PRICES themselves have gone up... fuck all to do with the government if the price per barrel has hit record highs.

What's that?
'Da Illigalz imigantz r stealin' ur jobz'

are they fuck. if they're illegal they can't technically get a job. yep ok there's been a lot of busts where illegals have been getting some shadyass jobs but on the whole you've got nothing to fear unless you're a drug baron or a prostitute. What about 'da fuckin polish'... they've realise how crap and racist our country is so they're going and we can get back to having useless english plumbers, electricians and bricklayers who charge us extortionate hourly rates for what appears just them scratching their arses for 95% percent of the time, and can't speak any better english than the pols.

the massive downside though and I'm being deadly serious now... with all the fit polish lasses leaving we're stuck with the classy munter english lasses. so actually you're right, this country is fucked. I'm joining the polish...


I work with them day in, day out. They're class. fact.

[Vinny_VSX]

I will be so up for this. Us brits have taken far too much rubbish from the Government over the past few years. Now it is time for the minority to have their say. I say we make this protest sooner. By then the petrol prices will be £2 + at the pumps

[Barry123]

We have never had it good, the government is always trying to help out other countries and hasnt realised what a state their own country is in. And no-one is saying fuel tax has to be cut so that the nhs and (shitty) public transport cant be funded, but why cant they just reduce fuel prices down to something more reasonable like 85p a litre.

right so take off 30p per litre... so you know how many litres of fuel are sold per year?

no neither do I (i did once but I'm a loser)... anyway it's a lot and that'd be a few £billion off the government coffers.
where do we make up the deficit?


No other countries are going to give 2 shits about what happens to the environment so as far as i see it we are saving our petrol to be used by foreign countries (such as america)


actually they do... question do you read the news dude?
Mainland Europe is way ahead of us which is why they're in a better position than we and that's why people like me and you are complaining currently.


As for your views on driving, it may be fine for you living in the middle of a city and being able to cycle everywhere or get the bus but what about everyoune else that doesnt have access to public transport and cant just get on a bike and cycle as its too far away?

move closer.



Have to agree with you there its just fucking stupid. The government wastes far too much money funding pointless wars and helping out 3rd world countries. I cant see the point in doing this at all when they pass the cost of it onto us. I personally as a student do not want to be paying so that achmed and his family can come over here, take out jobs and drag our country down further. government needs to sort its act out tbh

Become a doctor, work for the NHS and take 'achmeds' job off him then.



Again I agree with you but I doubt much will happen soon because the typical british mindset is to bury there heads in the sand (just like some of the contributers to this thread) people either cant be arsed or take the "im only one person what can i do" approach to everything. Too many of us are just accepting what the government tells us to do without questioning the reasons behind it

no you're thinking that the government is doing this to be a cunt to everyone... remember they can get voted out if you don't like it... which you dont. why the hell would they do it then? why havent the conservatives or anything other crappy party said

'wait a massive fucking tick..... we can win this election by saying we'll cut fuel prices....!!!!!'

easy peasy, they'll win the election. why havent they thought of that?
because they can't and unlike you dude, they realise there's a bit of a massive problem going to bite us on the arse rather soon (10 years soon anyway)


happy motoring :)

[djmartin]

We're not part of the EU? When did we opt out.

we are only part of hte Eu in certain areas.

hence why we dont use the euro and we still have sterlin if we was fully part of the eu we would be using euro's as our main currency.

[littleracer]

I must agree with DJawsome,we have survived with lower petrol tax then before.
we pay more tax yet nothing is improveing.infact its all getting worse.
they say crime has gone down,so why have the goverment put MORE officers on the street haha.
if it has come down why am i hearing about more killings,muggers and overall more crime?
people who get life should do life,if there aint room then kill them,slowly and painfully and view it on tv so that any other scummy twat thinking of doing something sees it and it may make them stop.
This country has got to be harder on certain things and more relaxed on others.
I say bring back death penalty,other says oh no because the wrong person may be die.
Well that puts my faith in the legal system.NOT.
someone said it costs more to kill someone then have them alive in prison?
killers,rapists,perverts etc etc etc,give me a ficking axe and there body and il kill them for nothing.
If theres a problem someone surely sorting the problem is best,but this goverment seems to be blind by this idea.

To the people who say if you want to go fast you got to pay,but what about the normal everyday person?
you wouldnt really buy a diesel to go fast although some are,iam just saying,yet diesel is higher then super unleaded.

[Barry123]

get a smaller engine or something with more mpg or drive better :)

really you're making out like we live in Zimbabwe or something. the grass is always greener imo. Also, don't believe everything you hear in the papers or news....


no news, means no newspapers, which means no dosh for the newspaper companies. they'll write about anything if there isn't a bomb going off in the middle east or something. just because you hear about it more doesn't actually mean it's occuring more...

ads :)

[djawesome123]

move closer.


So your telling me that because there is not a lot of public transport around where i live, that my parents should sell the house and move somewhere closer just so i can get on an overcrowded bus/tube/train whatever?

Wow what a sensible idea. NOT

[Hanuman]

America+fuel prices going too high = boycott. Result, cheaper fuel.

France+ fuel prices going too high= blockade by lorries and farmers. Result, cheaper fuel.

Britain + fuel prices going too high= keep buying it, the public transport system is wank, too many people commute and theres an overwhelming need for cars. That, coupled with the bend over and take it attitude of the British means the prices are just going to keep going up, regardless of market circumstances.


that is EXACTLY IT.. lock thread thats all that needs to be said

[Barry123]

So your telling me that because there is not a lot of public transport around where i live, that my parents should sell the house and move somewhere closer just so i can get on an overcrowded bus/tube/train whatever?

Wow what a sensible idea. NOT

yeah basically.

[littleracer]

yeah basically.

your views are wrong,if i have a 950cc car is still got to apy per liter.


if anyones against this original idead fine,everyone has there own opinions,but this thread is for people who want to try and make a difference.

now lets get started.

1.littleracer

[Barry123]

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[littleracer]

http://www.newmexiconuts.net/catalog/tumbleweed.jpg

is that your barn house?lol