Moving Abroad..

[Amiee]

Am sure with the way things are here atm alot of people have considered it .. but would you really do it?

Reason Im asking, is because the parents are looking to move out to spain (not the coastal areas , inland slightly) and move out once they have got the house how they want it.

Now iv been asked if I would like to go with them and dad would build me my own house an live next door basically as the plot of land they have brought is rather large. (I would still have my house here if I needed to come back or didnt like it ect)

Obv this would take a while to do, but if I really wanted to go they said I could. Now im thinking if I went what would I do for work? Im currently training as an accountant and will be doing my degree at open uni this coming september which is 13 months. Dont really want to get over there and then be stuck in a dead end job.. So thinking it would be best just to stay here.

For now its just a idea...

Anyone lived there before know what proper jobs are like, and stuff like that?

Thanks

:geek:

[Scattle]

Maybe finish your open degree first and then go from there? Wouldnt go out there straight away as you said, might not be much work out there for you a this time. Is there any eqivalent websites to like www.monster.co.uk which is over here, but for spain instead?

[m17ky-u]

go for it, you can only go and hate it. Rather than thinking in a the future What if i did go.

hate it, well just come home

[AlexR]

Not spain no. France or germany yes. I've considered moving to live with family in germany a lot, gotta wait till i've paid for my cars first though!

[jam_vts]

I would move first oppurtunit i get. Went to Dubai for holiday and absolutely loved it there, i am seriously thinking about moving there too.

[Ryan]

id move away, this country is a shithole now anyway, and tbh not exactly english anyway lol!

usa/oz/new zeland.

should have gone oz 4 years ago when it could have been very easy for me to go live there and compete for them.

[steviet]

ive thought about moving. i looked at australia. i got offered a job there aswell so i was pretty much sorted. but im not sure if i could just pack up and go.

[steve_335]

If the oppurtunity came up for me, doubt i would turn it down, this country is going downhill all the time, would have to move somewhere where i had a bit of a grasp of the language though.

[vidal]

id move away, this country is a shithole now anyway, and tbh not exactly english anyway lol!


usa/oz/new zeland.

Ah yes, those Outposts of Empire, a place forever England. Or do you think it may actually be slightly American in the USA, a little Australian in Oz, just a tad Kiwi in NZ. You will be as much of an imigrant over there, despised by the indigineous population - seen as part of the problem, exactly what you hate about this country.

Food for thought?

V.

[steve_335]

Ah yes, those Outposts of Empire, a place forever England. Or do you think it may actually be slightly American in the USA, a little Australian in Oz, just a tad Kiwi in NZ. You will be as much of an imigrant over there, despised by the indigineous population - seen as part of the problem, exactly what you hate about this country.

Food for thought?

V.

i think most people on here would go out there to earn a living, rather than like a majority of immigrants over here, sponge of the government. Also the customs over there are a lot stricter than over here.

[danzman1991]

Seriously considered moving to Australia in a few years time, my Step Mums Brother lives there and I could get a job with his Massive Construction Company..

[L33h]

they way that this country is goin, id love to move away;

petrol prices
inflation
hardlys anything is actually english now
prices of just about everything
whinging about everythin - like when people say beer is too cheap wtf?
etc etc etc

[Barry123]

Canada ftw.

it's like america but without the americans.

[Ryan]

Ah yes, those Outposts of Empire, a place forever England. Or do you think it may actually be slightly American in the USA, a little Australian in Oz, just a tad Kiwi in NZ. You will be as much of an imigrant over there, despised by the indigineous population - seen as part of the problem, exactly what you hate about this country.

Food for thought?

V.

id rather be seen as a problem, that adopts the countries way of life rather than moving in somewhere refusing to learn the language, demanding that the countries traditions get changed to suit our religious views, and feel its ok to be slanderous against the countries native religions etc...

[Saxy1]

My dad has got an apartment in Marbella spain, i stayed out there last year for a month and i didnt want to come back. My mum and dad are moving out there to live for good next year, and They have said i can go with them to amiee so im in the same situation as you. :y:

[immense]

I'm looking for temp work abroad, 6-12 months :)

[craig180]

I can see an e fight between V and R on the way tonight! Line up the beers!!!

In answer to your question Amiee, yes we have considered it and it's part of out 10 year plan. Spain here we come. Not commercial Spain but somewhere out in the sticks we visit each year

[Barry123]

id rather be seen as a problem, that adopts the countries way of life rather than moving in somewhere refusing to learn the language, demanding that the countries traditions get changed to suit our religious views, and feel its ok to be slanderous against the countries native religions etc...

Ryan.... you've just summed up it perfectly....












about the UK ex-pats in Spain.

:err:

[scottyvtr]

ive considered it also - USA or OZ - an equivelant job in the USA,that i do is about 3k more a year round about $43k (£22k) in on 19k basic at the mo, but i would need to wait and get the car paid off go for a year and then get family, cars and what ever else shipped over!!!!

[JimoVTR]

I couldnt .

I have friends and family.... and i couldnt move away from the local church where some friends and family are buried...

im a bit sentimental

[vidal]

The vast majority of immigrants in this country do make an effort, yet the ones we hear about are the vocal minority, or the ones highlighted by the Daily Mail.

As Adsayer pointed out, look at the Costa Brits - little enclaves, more English than England.

Yes there are problems in this country, but do you really think they don't exist in other countries?

V.

[Barry123]

The vast majority of immigrants in this country do make an effort, yet the ones we hear about are the vocal minority, or the ones highlighted by the Daily Mail.

As Adsayer pointed out, look at the Costa Brits - little enclaves, more English than England.

Yes there are problems in this country, but do you really think they don't exist in other countries?

V.

fucking hate the Daily Mail.

[Ryan]

The vast majority of immigrants in this country do make an effort, yet the ones we hear about are the vocal minority, or the ones highlighted by the Daily Mail.

As Adsayer pointed out, look at the Costa Brits - little enclaves, more English than England.

Yes there are problems in this country, but do you really think they don't exist in other countries?

V.

the Uk has one of the easyest entry routes to living here, we are also as a country more accepting to other societies from a senior managment perspective. I personally am fed up of seeing mosques and signs being put up in non english language in the UK to aid communities of immigrants. These communitys isolate large percentages of areas, something i find often where i live in SW london.

[vidal]

I'd rather live in an inclusive, welcoming community than a place ruled by xenophobes.

Next we'll be having road signs in different languages... and that would be the end of civilisation wouldn't it?

http://www.hutton-web-design.co.uk/images/Nevern_Wales_09.JPG

Maybe believe less of the spin and look at the benefits. Not all immigrants come to take benefits, not all immigrants are disease ridden terrorists.

V.

[a17vts]

In regards to the thread. I would move out there if I were you, if I wasn't in such a good job I would be living out there. There is an English guy who lives close to one of the houses out there and he lives like a king. Works only a few hours a day doing Web-Sites and has a nice car, motorbike & boat.

As long as you live in a spainish part of spain it is sooooooooooo cheap to live.

[Ryan]

Maybe believe less of the spin and look at the benefits. Not all immigrants come to take benefits, not all immigrants are disease ridden terrorists.

V.

i dont read papers to see 'spin' as you call it, I base my opinions on real events in society i see on a day to day basis.

If people want to come live here and adopt the british way of life theres nothing wrong. I object strongly to having to changing the english traditions on behlaf of extremeists who just want to whinge about how much it offends them.
quite simple really, if you want to live somewhere respect them, dont try and force your ways on them. The opposite i see daily.

It is you who has now brought up benifits, and disease/terroism. Something which if you may like to re read i have not based any of my opinions on.

[Barry123]

Ry... take this.

When I was 12, dadsayer was asked by the company he worked for to upsticks from the UK and move to India... We would have got a tonk house, with servant(s), me and my sister would have been in a privately educated 'american' school lots of other things.... (only because everything would be cheap as fooooook and not because like I'm rich or owt) essentially isolating ourselves from the real india. It's human nature... you hang on to the things and ways you're used you (although I never got private education or a tonk house or a servant (except mother sayer))

In the end we didn't (as you can tell) and I drive a 1.5D because of it.

[Ryan]

Ry... take this.

When I was 12, dadsayer was asked by the company he worked for to upsticks from the UK and move to India... We would have got a tonk house, with servant(s), me and my sister would have been in a privately educated 'american' school lots of other things.... (only because everything would be cheap as fooooook and not because like I'm rich or owt) essentially isolating ourselves from the real india. It's human nature... you hang on to the things and ways you're used you (although I never got private education or a tonk house or a servant (except mother sayer))

In the end we didn't (as you can tell) and I drive a 1.5D because of it.

Many as you know do not move here because they are offered jobs though adam. Come into where i work and you will see that they deffo didnt come here for that.

Many come here for an easy life lets face it. Ive dealt with many people from all races and nationalities in some very good jobs, and even they have commented that it is their country now, so they adopted a british way of life, as they came here wanting to live here. They respect our traditions and work hard.

Its not just white people who object to the way people come here with no respect for the country.

[b0t13]

i agree with ryan on this subject, u have to see and live with the types of people to base an opinion, there are alot of working good etc.. immagrants, but the majority do sponge and dont provide any real benefit to the country..imo.

[Yates]

Agree with Ryan also.

But on the subject of this country, i would move, im very tempted to transfer to the american or australlian navy at some point in my career, in austriallia for my job, once ive had a promotion or two i would be on mega money compared to the same job in england.

[Mochachino]

im saving up to move to spain at the moment! Going in about 3/4 week to sus it all out, lke jobs for myself and accomodation :)

[Amiee]

Ta for the replies guys :)

May have a look into the sort of jobs I could get over there like, as I said it wouldnt be the commercial side of spain but a bit more mainland. And Im not sure what the jobs are like over there and I would also have to learn spanish.. hehe a new challenge :D

I have lived in australia before, would go back but it is just that lil bit too far from the family. Reason my mum didnt like it over there and moved back after 3 years. Tbh the quality of living in aus is alot higher than over here! But thats because you dont get taxed on everything, but you pay for things such as health care. Generally I would move back if... I could take all my family but thats just unrealistic lol.. Being austrailian citizen I have to go over for minimum amount of time every 10 years I think it is.

Would I have to apply to live in Spain? Like for tax purposed ect? Not sure on the european rules!

[Mochachino]

u can get some good money in spain for telesales! my friends sister out there earns 400euros a week from telesales!

as for the tax i aint got a clue! Il just be moving in with her n her parents when i do, then we're both gonna move out n get our own place.

You have to get this thing that allows u to work there costs 40euros or sumthing and takes a while to come through.

[Amiee]

See to me telesales is just a job, not a career which is what I want. Probs sounds snobish but I have done it for a few weeks and hated it. Not what I want to be doing although as you say is good money.

Im thinking along the lines of accountacny over there :S have no idea lol

[Mochachino]

See to me telesales is just a job, not a career which is what I want. Probs sounds snobish but I have done it for a few weeks and hated it. Not what I want to be doing although as you say is good money.

Im thinking along the lines of accountacny over there :S have no idea lol

Would be ok for the english over there, but a lot of work and learning for the spanish.

Alot of the english there have theyre own businesses, so i guess that would be a good idea :y:

[kcsaxo]

get the qualification first then the world is your oyster, and if you dont like it out there you can always come back knowing you have a piece of paper saying youre good at something :)

with luck i will graduate this summer and right now i am thinking about what to do regarding leaving in the near future. everything that ryan says is true and if anyone believes otherwise needs to head further out than their local town centre, and i dont mean to offend people when i say that. everywhere i go i see more and more people who are obviousley not of the UK just flood the streets in recent years and even when i head down to my old neighbourhood its like going to a different country where i feel like the outsider.