How many WATTS are you running at peak?

[Dancollier]

hiya, just curious to see how many watts everyones got on their ICE set-up, and what make their speakers/subs are.

its just a little something to see whats out there really :)

Mutant X sub 800watt, two theloudest.com 6x9s 1000watt each, total 2800watts :D

[Ashleyp]

dont be a twat mate.. peak power doesnt really mean anything..

most pointless thread ive seen in a while tbh

oh and you brogut 6x9s.. poor choice, oh wait, theyre theloudest.com - even worse lol

[Dancollier]

ha thanks, i was only curious to see what everyone else is running!

and whats wrong with theloudest.com?

[saxmaster]

just to point out a your ub has 800w your 6x9's have a 1000w each think to yourself can these figures be accurate

[Ashleyp]

hmm.. well how do i put it nicely.. theyre utter shite

have you not read the thread about "why 6x9s are NOT good"

[Dancollier]

why wouldnt they be accurate mate?

[Ashleyp]

as i said.. peak power doesnt really mean anything for a start

this thread reminds me of a local chav that came up to me and said: "got a 1200watt sub and a 600watt amp.. thats 1800watts of power mate"

my reply: "Yeah.. urm, no"

[saxmaster]

tbh 6x9s arent shit if your on a budget there ideal. and tbh all the people who say bla bla bla about the are just repeating what has come from predator. yet you all jump on the bandwagon. fair enough if your running a competition system then yea theres no need. but still( btw i dont have 6x9s)


and to answer your question im pretty sure that the like of alpine kenny and the like top out at 300w in 6x9s for a lot more money.

[Dancollier]

cant find the thread...why arent 6x9s good?

well either way im happy with mine so surely thats all that matters?

[saxmaster]

just remember the imortal words of dave

max power speak in watts
real men speak in rms

[Dancollier]

seeing as i play mostly acoustic and rock/metal out of mine its quality i love so i cant quite see why your puttin me next to your local chav!

[Ashleyp]

seeing as i play mostly acoustic and rock/metal out of mine its quality i love so i cant quite see why your puttin me next to your local chav!

the local chavs make comments like you lol

[saxmaster]

just because your talking in watts mate.

it dosent make a blind bit of difference a good 300rms sub and similar spec amp would piss all over a 9,000 watt set up

[Dancollier]

the local chavs make comments like you lol

haha so my curiosity now makes me a chav? ironic how i drive past all the local chavs playing slipknot isnt it?!

[Ashleyp]

just remember the imortal words of dave

max power speak in watts
real men speak in rms

yep.. completely true

[Dancollier]

just because your talking in watts mate.

it dosent make a blind bit of difference a good 300rms sub and similar spec amp would piss all over a 9,000 watt set up

350rms on my 6x9s then :) just checked

[saxmaster]

why arent chavs allowed to listen to shit??

[Ashleyp]

haha so my curiosity now makes me a chav? ironic how i drive past all the local chavs playing slipknot isnt it?!

didnt actually say you were a chav.. said you made a comment like the idiotic ones i see around ;)

[saxmaster]

350rms on my 6x9s then :) just checked

highly unlikely

[Dancollier]

highly unlikely

its for both 6x9s just so u know

http://www.theloudest.co.uk/?sectionid=2&page=view_product&product_id=80

[Dancollier]

didnt actually say you were a chav.. said you made a comment like the idiotic ones i see around ;)

lol ok then :p fair point

[Ashleyp]

http://www.theloudest.co.uk/?sectionid=2&page=view_product&product_id=81

if you got those 1000watt peak speakers, then theyre only 150rms.. and only as loud as the amp powering them

eg: amp with 2 x 80watt rms at 4 ohms means your 6x9s would only be doing 2 x 80watt with the gain all the way up (allthough gain doesnt = volume)

[saxmaster]

ok put it another way find me theloudest.com demo car or a decent ice car running there gear.

[Ashleyp]

soz just seen the link u left

but still.. the speakers can only go as loud as the amp powering them

[Dancollier]

http://www.theloudest.co.uk/?sectionid=2&page=view_product&product_id=81

if you got those 1000watt peak speakers, then theyre only 150rms.. and only as loud as the amp powering them

eg: amp with 2 x 80watt rms at 4 ohms means your 6x9s would only be doing 2 x 80watt with the gain all the way up (allthough gain doesnt = volume)

i got the one up from those mate, the 2000watt ones :) btw i didnt pay full price for them haha, got them on a deal, im not that sad!

[Ashleyp]

lol well imo buying theloudest.com stuff means you ARE that sad

lol

[Ashleyp]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28317

and read that..

[Dancollier]

lol well imo buying theloudest.com stuff means you ARE that sad

lol

well either way im happy with them so im not too bothered haha :p

[Ashleyp]

lol have a read of that thread

i gaurentee if you took the 6x9s out and had front comps youd be happier :y:

wait. you didnt even mention your front comps? do you have any, or is all your sound in the boot?

[Dancollier]

interesting thread to read i have to say

nope, just standard factory speakers throughout the rest of my car, havent got much money atm as im saving for uni :(

either way, all of the equalizer settings on both amps are roughly half, and i dont drive round with it stupidly loud so surely there shouldnt b 2 much of a problem

i know when it comes to getting a new car after/durin uni im not going to make this same 'mistake' again haha

either way, thanks for the constructive criticism :p

[Ashleyp]

lol.. not having ago at you mate, would just like to clear that up

to a lot of people the best system in a saxo would be amped up sub in boot, and front components amped up :y:

[rally_chd]

can i just say when i had no rear speakers it sounded as if there was no music just bass, i do have comp fronts but they arnt amped, would it be alot better if i got them amped? and also what about speakers in the rear 1/4 panels?

[Dancollier]

its all good man :)

how much u reckon I could get some decent component speakers for then?

would i be better off getting rid of the sub as well and replacing all the factory speakers in my car instead do u reckon?

[Ashleyp]

nah front speakers off an amp and sub in the boot - best set up in saxo

edit: this is to rally chd

also rally chd, you should have posted your own thread, but no worries

[rally_chd]

but will it still be loud to peeps in the back ov my car?

[Ashleyp]

its all good man :)

how much u reckon I could get some decent component speakers for then?

would i be better off getting rid of the sub as well and replacing all the factory speakers in my car instead do u reckon?

get rid of 6x9s, and keep sub and have front comps up front, sell the 6x9s

what would you be willing to spend on comps up front?

[Ashleyp]

but will it still be loud to peeps in the back ov my car?

amped components will greatly improve the quality and volume of the hi's and mids

and should equalise it more

also, on a headunit you have bass and trebble, if you want to hear more mids and his turn the trebble up and bass down :y:

you can equalise stuff youself

[Elliott]

rms is what ya wanna no

my sub is 1500 rms!

[Ashleyp]

rms is what ya wanna no

my sub is 1500 rms!

1500watt rms?

beast tbh

[Dancollier]

get rid of 6x9s, and keep sub and have front comps up front, sell the 6x9s

what would you be willing to spend on comps up front?

well i reckon i could sell my 6x9s with wiring kit and amp for £190 which was what i paid for them initially, but i mite also invest in a better sub, not sure yet if i do what your suggesting. say ive got £150, what would you recommend?

[Ashleyp]

ok.. couple of quick questions:

have you allready got a sub? and is that running off an amp?

whats the specs of the amp? coz you could use that to run the front components

[RK_Audio]

this thread should be closed lol... there is no argument for 6x9's being good at all!
and max power doesn't mean anything at all!

[Ashleyp]

this thread should be closed lol... there is no argument for 6x9's being good at all!
and max power doesn't mean anything at all!

lol agreed

just offering him advice on a DECENT set up ;)

[Dancollier]

ok.. couple of quick questions:

have you allready got a sub? and is that running off an amp?

whats the specs of the amp? coz you could use that to run the front components

already got a sub and amp mate

http://www.lowcostcaraudio.co.uk/shop/Mutant-MTPK12-12-Bass-Pack-Replaces-MTPK300_productJJ2538

think its this one, couldnt find it on the halfrauds website where i got it from though but i think its the same :)

[Ashleyp]

ok mate, so you just want a pair of components for the front and an amp for them?

what kinda money would you be looking to spend for that

that is if your planning to sell the 6x9s and amp poweing them?

[Dancollier]

ok mate, so you just want a pair of components for the front and an amp for them?

what kinda money would you be looking to spend for that

that is if your planning to sell the 6x9s and amp poweing them?

basically mate yer...like i said i could sell my 6x9s, amp and wiring kit for what i brought them for as it should have been like £450 altogether. so say £150 for the components and amp then :)

ta for the help btw!

[Ashleyp]

the components: http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/hertz-dieci-p-6122.html

at the min, for this price i cant see any other option, everyone rates them, and theyre award wining comps!

and amp: http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/gto2060-anniversary-p-6226.html

this would provide good power, it also leaves £10 out of your budged so you can pay for p+p ;)

[Dancollier]

the components: http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/hertz-dieci-p-6122.html

at the min, for this price i cant see any other option, everyone rates them, and theyre award wining comps!

and amp: http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/gto2060-anniversary-p-6226.html

this would provide good power, it also leaves £10 out of your budged so you can pay for p+p ;)

nice one cheers mate...that component, is there only one there or do u get two? will i just need to take out the existing one in my door and replace it with that then?

[Ashleyp]

yeah you get two.

unfortunatly its not quite as simple, because its a component, you have a seperate woofer and tweeter, the woofer goes where the existing speaker is, and the tweeter goes anywhere you like (higher up the better)

basically, speaker wire goes from the amp to the crossover, then from the crossover to both tweeter and woofer

it sounds a lot more complicated then it is, theres a guide somewhere ill look it up

Edit: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81707

have a look through this thread

[Predator_R32]

oh dear god, rms is for real men max watts is for young boys im afraid, read the stickies bud

was gonna lock this thread but seem as thought everyone hascalmed down a bit ill leave it

[Dancollier]

yeah you get two.

unfortunatly its not quite as simple, because its a component, you have a seperate woofer and tweeter, the woofer goes where the existing speaker is, and the tweeter goes anywhere you like (higher up the better)

basically, speaker wire goes from the amp to the crossover, then from the crossover to both tweeter and woofer

it sounds a lot more complicated then it is, theres a guide somewhere ill look it up

Edit: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81707

have a look through this thread

nice one thanks a lot for the help man

[Ashleyp]

lol dont worry pred, explained i all to him ;) and reccommended a better set up

[Ashleyp]

nice one thanks a lot for the help man

no worries mate

[Dancollier]

oh dear god, rms is for real men max watts is for young boys im afraid, read the stickies bud

was gonna lock this thread but seem as thought everyone hascalmed down a bit ill leave it

we all learn from our mistakes! :p

[Ashleyp]

lol and cheers for the neg rep whoever gave it

Edit: wasnt tryin to be an arse, just as im sure you all know what the local chavs are like :wall: so seemed a bit aggressive towards ya.. oh well your not guna learn if you dont ask i guess.. glad we could help you out mate ;)

[Dancollier]

haha, I didnt before u start pointing fingers :p

[Ashleyp]

haha, I didnt before u start pointing fingers :p

lol no worries mate..

just get a lot of random stuff like that from the chavs around here.. does my head in, as theyre too busy being twats to understand things lol

but so long as uve learnt more about ice ;) thats what were all here for

[Predator_R32]

we all learn from our mistakes! :p

im pleased you have seen the sense, were here to help at the end of the day ;)

and trust me components sound so good you will be amazed :y:

[Ashleyp]

im pleased you have seen the sense, were here to help at the end of the day ;)

and trust me components sound so good you will be amazed :y:

definately.. youll notice a great difference mate

considering all your sound is commong from the boot at the min, youll notice things even out a lot, and also be a lot better quality in music

[Dancollier]

6x9s up for sale already haha, will keep you posted re component speakers and fitting them etc :) cheers guys

[CSVTR]

rms is what ya wanna no

my sub is 1500 rms!

Curious to know what sub, also what amp are you running it off?

[Mat7thew]

Soon too be 2000w when i get my 6x9s in :)

[Coonper]

Im running 1800w rms, dread to think what the max is on it though... Dont really use max figures tbh!

[Ashleyp]

Soon too be 2000w when i get my 6x9s in :)


peak means nothing mate

[Ashleyp]

Im running 1800w rms, dread to think what the max is on it though... Dont really use max figures tbh!

you got that pioneer sub up and running yet? think it had 2500rms

[Coonper]

you got that pioneer sub up and running yet? think it had 2500rms

CAD got back to me and told me they didnt have it stock, and offered me some crappy twin kenwood deal!:n:

Ive now got an spl dynamics amp running an RE MX12 in a 3.5cuft box tuned to 28hz!:y:

[Dancollier]

do u reckon i could be able to bridge the connection on the amp for my sub and put front components on instead of buying a new amp? i did it with some old 6x9s and they worked fine so it shouldnt be a problem should it?

[Ashleyp]

yeah if its a 4 channel amp,

u got the link to the amp?

[Dancollier]

yer its this one mate

http://www.lowcostcaraudio.co.uk/shop/Mutant-MTPK12-12-Bass-Pack-Replaces-MTPK300_productJJ2538

cheers :)

[Ashleyp]

youll need a new amp mate. thats only a 2 channel, therefore bridge the channels to run your sub, but you wont be able to add speakers to it aswell

if it was 4 channel then you would have used channels 1 & 2 (bridged) for the sub

and 3 and 4(not bridged) for each speaker

[Ashleyp]

think i reccommended you a set of components and amp for them costing around £140 on page 3

[Dancollier]

yer ive seen some vibe ones that i like on that same website mate

i had the 6x9s bridged on it a while ago and they were fine so surely it wudnt be a problem would it

[Dancollier]

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/vibe-blackair-p-6462.html?cadid=3d9e71e5721f5f3ef7ee283c9b79f6f9

[Ashleyp]

the fact that youd need 6 wires going to it (2 for the sub, 4 for the speaker), and only 4 places to put them means its pretty impossible lol

use the mutant amp for sub, and new amp for comps

and i wouldnt buy vibe, the hertz ones i showed you are arguably the best components on the market for less that £100

[wildrenegade]

i gto a nice kicker L7 15" in my car with a vibe monoblock 4 amp. sub ment to be 1000w RMS! but its all wired up at 1ohm so amp ment to be putting out 1400w RMS! who knows though.... its fairly loud thought

and p.s.

6x9 are great if you using them on there own... but if your runninga sub ditch them.. they share the same air space and also they crossover on freq ranges sounding gash

[Dancollier]

okies kewl cheers...and btw, theres instructions on how to fit other speakers and bridge the connection on the amp manual lol :p

[Ashleyp]

okies kewl cheers...and btw, theres instructions on how to fit other speakers and bridge the connection on the amp manual lol :p

lol.. but it cant work surely?

2 channels (2+ & 2-)

6 wires (2sub & 4speakers)

just wont work

[Dancollier]

where theres the +-+- the speakers go on a +- each, and the sub goes on the + of the left set and the - of the right set if that makes any sense?

[Ashleyp]

oh i see

thats going to sound shite tbh lol

amp will be giving out hardley any power if you do it like that

bad move imo :n:

[wildrenegade]

so your running it bridged and in stereo too??? let me get this right you got 3 pairs of wires from the sub going to the amp!

1st pair going from sub to left channel on amp
2nd pair going to the right hand channel on amp
then a 3rd going going to both channels bridged???

do you own a fire extinguisher?

[Ashleyp]

so your running it bridged and in stereo too??? let me get this right you got 3 pairs of wires from the sub going to the amp!

1st pair going from sub to left channel on amp
2nd pair going to the right hand channel on amp
then a 3rd going going to both channels bridged???

do you own a fire extinguisher?

allready established that mate.. and ive reccommended him a set up allready

[Dancollier]

so your running it bridged and in stereo too??? let me get this right you got 3 pairs of wires from the sub going to the amp!

1st pair going from sub to left channel on amp
2nd pair going to the right hand channel on amp
then a 3rd going going to both channels bridged???

do you own a fire extinguisher?

huh? i used to have it with one amp, a sub and two 6x9s, +- wire from each of the 6x9s, and then bridged across it i had the +- from the sub going into the + on the left set and the - on the right side if that makes sense

it was all in the manual in front of me lol!

[Ashleyp]

huh? i used to have it with one amp, a sub and two 6x9s, +- wire from each of the 6x9s, and then bridged across it i had the +- from the sub going into the + on the left set and the - on the right side if that makes sense

it was all in the manual in front of me lol!

yes you had it in mono and stereo at the same time

i wouldnt do that again if i was you.. unless you enjoy not getting the most out of your equiptment :n: lol

[Dancollier]

yes you had it in mono and stereo at the same time

i wouldnt do that again if i was you.. unless you enjoy not getting the most out of your equiptment :n: lol

r rite fair does, cheers lad

[Ashleyp]

no worries mate

the set up i reccomended with the jbl amp and hertz comps on page 3 will sound sweet in your car.. youll hear the difference in a big way :y:

[tinyepson]

i was gunna get an orrion hcca 12 sub witch is 1500 rms and 2000 peak and u have to get a huge mother fuker amp wid em they are very reliable but the only problem is they wer just low end bass i wanted all round that y i gt my jl setup

[Furio-Eth]

lol at this thread. I could have 4 speakers rated at 200w RMS running off a headunit, That doesn't mean I've got 800w RMS probably more like 4x 15w RMS. Watts do not come from the speakers.

Nice to see that advice has been taken in now tho. Comps FTW

[Ashleyp]

lol at this thread. I could have 4 speakers rated at 200w RMS running off a headunit, That doesn't mean I've got 800w RMS probably more like 4x 15w RMS. Watts do not come from the speakers.

Nice to see that advice has been taken in now tho. Comps FTW

notice how the thread changed topic on page 2?

lol ;)

[Coonper]

i was gunna get an orrion hcca 12 sub witch is 1500 rms and 2000 peak and u have to get a huge mother fuker amp wid em they are very reliable but the only problem is they wer just low end bass i wanted all round that y i gt my jl setup

The orions are not that reliable mate...

If you dont feed them their rated power then bad things can happen...

They dont like being a sent a clipped signal, so 1500rms is too little, but at the same time, they cant be overpowered. The motors tend to burn out when driven hard for a long time. Much better off with something like an Re XXX!:P