Is it stupid to get a 106 GTi at 17?

[Krys_23]

On a scale of 1/10 how stupid would it be to get a 106 gti at 17.. Considering it.. Discuss :y:

[Frosty]

Extremely..

I got BUA when i was 17 and i think i spent most my time paying off the scale of 2 grand insurance than i did driving the car


Bad move, Saxo VTR for your first year, 106 gti second year

And they aint exactly the best car to start driving on the road with as i learned a few times

[Krys_23]

Extremely..

I got BUA when i was 17 and i think i spent most my time paying off the scale of 2 grand insurance than i did driving the car


Bad move, Saxo VTR for your first year, 106 gti second year

And they aint exactly the best car to start driving on the road with as i learned a few times

Your pretty spot on i must say

[TDID]

Read the post below re: the 02 vtr getting smashed and think carefully.

Also bear in mind insurance will be huge and you'll never see that money again.

It's your choice, I was quite happy driving shitters until I got a couple of years experience and ncb behind me, best way imho.

[jaybiss]

do an insurance quote, if you can afford it and want then go for it

just drive it sensibly

[Danr]

Insurance will be the problem. Paying to much just isn't worth it imo. The actual speed of the thing could be if your not sensible but older people bin them all the time so not really a huge issue.

[Krys_23]

I'd be pretty sensible in it i must say.. Would be about 2k in parents name lol

[Frosty]

Your pretty spot on i must say

Krys not saying dont do it mate, I mean look i had

2 106 gti then 3 vtrs and im now just comfortably going to be able to insure a vts

Its better to insure it once you have the good road experience, VTR is quick enough until you say ''right im ready for something faster'' You will enjoy it far more as well

If you get one, Dont go nuts cause 99% you will stack her and just be devastated or crushed


Im 650 quid years no claims at 19 with the vtr.

106 gti when i just past my test was 1980 third party fire and theft lol

Second 106 was 1700

You can modify a vtr for the money you spend on insurance lol

[CampDavid]

Personally, I'd get something slow as fuck but fun and go from there. The 205 XS is an absolute hoot to drive and should be cheap enough to insure. Failing that a Derv 306 is a good move.

Driving costs fuck loads, no point in making it cost more. It takes a few years for most people (self included) to realise that spending £2k on insurance is pap

[Krys_23]

Krys not saying dont do it mate, I mean look i had

1 106 gti then 3 vtrs and im now just comfortably going to be able to insure a vts

Its better to insure it once you have the good road experience, VTR is quick enough until you say ''right im ready for something faster'' You will enjoy it far more as well

If you get one, Dont go nuts cause 99% you will stack her and just be devastated or crushed

Lost they keys for the vtr and its pretty fucked tbh so i'm not bothering with it so.. Thinking about a gti.. maybe an mg zr.. Like i said undecided yet on what to go for next.

[jaybiss]

I'd be pretty sensible in it i must say.. Would be about 2k in parents name lol

i wouldnt get it if you plan on fronting

[Danr]

My friend had a 205 xs as David mentioned. Legend car. Cheap to do up as well due to the overall parts on a 205. 205 Rallye would be an amazing first motor and dirt cheap to drive etc.

[Frosty]

Lost they keys for the vtr and its pretty fucked tbh so i'm not bothering with it so.. Thinking about a gti.. maybe an mg zr.. Like i said undecided yet on what to go for next.

So the old vtr shit the bed?

MG ZR 1400's are alright and not expensive to insure

106 rallye? 1600 8valvers?

VTR?

Quiksilver?

[Danr]

MG ZR's do seem quite high insurance for a 1.4. Handling won't be so fun either.

[AM4R]

too much on insurance, just buy a civic haha

[Krys_23]

So the old vtr shit the bed?

MG ZR 1400's are alright and not expensive to insure

106 rallye? 1600 8valvers?

VTR?

Quiksilver?

Aye it's got no back seats in it or nothing lol..

There's a smart quicksilver in aberdeen i fancied but i'll see..

[Frosty]

Insurance isnt really bad i think it all depends where you live in my eyes....

Krys 106 rallye, Get it done

[Karl]

id say its pretty stupid.
you miss out on the first car shitter fun.

I miss those days!

[Krys_23]

Insurance isnt really bad i think it all depends where you live in my eyes....

Krys 106 rallye, Get it done

Series 1? lol sounds good

[Ashleyp]

On a scale of 1/10 how stupid would it be to get a 106 gti at 17.. Considering it.. Discuss :y:

simple answer = YES

when im 19 and been driving 2 years, insurance will still be just over £1000 for me ona 106gti

[Spanky]

MG ZR's do seem quite high insurance for a 1.4. Handling won't be so fun either.

And where do you get the idea from????

I have just as much fun in my ZR as i do in the Saxo, they handle VERY well and you can giv them alot of stick before they giv in to sliding around :y:

[wallsy]

Id say if you drove sensibly and could afford it then yeah. But being 17 with no driving experience with a fairly powerful first car could end up bad...

[Ashleyp]

its also more fun after having a 1.1 to getting something bigger.. i found this with my VTR.. didnt seem much faster untill i drove the 106 again.. just had no power.. cant wait to get my hands on a 106gti next year january :)

[Elliott]

not really
just dont drive like a cunt
you wont crash
your be ok!

[Krys_23]

Nahh don't want another vtr tbh.. 106 gti just makes love to my eye's.

[Hodgins91]

not really
just dont drive like a cunt
you wont crash
your be ok!

someone who sees it as i do!

i just got a VTS as my first car, a bit stupid i know. everyone is in my ear including my mates :( "its too fast for you" "your gonna kill yourself" "who do you think you are?" etc etc etc it just doesnt end,
but my parents trust me and allowed me to buy it, and i see myself as sensible and i just wanna drive it properly to prove everyone wrong.

i appreciate insurance will rape me but im going for it lol, if i wrap it up due to stupid/wreckless driving on my part then everyone can point the finger and say i told you so

sooo......
however unsensible it may be, if you want it, have it lol
and take note of the 998855837 people who say take your time lol

[Ashleyp]

i agree with you hodgins that if your sensible thats good! way too many twats on the road now..

but insurance is stupid.. unless you have rich parent or more money than sence, imo its not worth it

as i said.. the fun factor is there when you go from a 1.1 to a vtr / s :y:

[a17vts]

Well I got my VTS when I was 18. But before that I had a Escort RST and a Fiesta RST at 17!

But I was stupid, I use to pay £1500 insurance on my VTS when I was 18 TPFT and then I use to pay £2400 on my escort RST when I was 17.

[Ashleyp]

They're basically the same car!

different actually

[Ashleyp]

Also if you're driving it slow what's the point in having a VTS? You have to walk before you run, as the saying goes.

you could say that with any car.. just because you own an M3 doesnt mean you do well over 100mph constantly.. if that was the case everyone would have 1.1s

[Ocego_VTR]

NO seriously don't just get a VTR or something similar, i am doing my driving test soon and 2bh i dont want to be banned and have to do it all again, you've got the rest of your life for fast cars.

[pug306_ok]

Well I suppose it's ok for most people.

Due to the area I live in, I can't afford to insure anything bigger than my current car (1.4 8v). When I'm 21 though I want to get something like a Seat Leon Cupra.

[Ashleyp]

i understand your point mate.. i just dont think its valid in my opinion.. i myself have a VTR, but dont feel like i constantly have to speed around and race people as it has a stereotype of a boy racer car..

and your contradictiong your self about the M3 saying young people should buy fast cars because it asks for trouble, yet you say its pointless having a fast car unless you take it down back roads to open it up

i get what your saying though.. i know somone who died because he thought it was cool to speed and drive like a twat.. its the mentality of people "it wont happen to me" thats the problem

[Ocego_VTR]

the idea of a 106 gti as a first car is stupid 2bh should stick with VTR

[Mikey]

i had one at 17...and wraped it. to fast for 17 FACT

[Ocego_VTR]

2bh i see both your opinions but what people buy and run and do is simply up to them.

[Ocego_VTR]

Mikey how much did you pay on insurance???

[Mikey]

600 a year...trade insurance

just got my quote on my VXR 1300 fully comp..not to bad

im 20

[Row_Row]

my first car was a vts.. well apart from borrowing mums .. but blew the engine up so had to get something more fun haha !! if u can afford a GTI go for it !!

[Ocego_VTR]

ahh thinking of buying a VTR once i have passed my test in augest well hopefully :P

[Ashleyp]

There's a difference between driving a car daily to work/nipping out to the shops and taking a car out for a b road blast. I presume that you yourself are a young driver and lack the necessary skills to control a car at speed pushing down country roads. This relates back to my original point that young drivers should start out in slower cars and start to learn from there. You also mention racing people, which is retarded and a completely different matter altogether, but shows the mentality of younger drivers.

not disagreeing with that atall.. yes i am a young driver.. but do not feel the need to race people or drive like a twat, i respect other road users etc

i too started off with a 1.1 before i got my vtr..

however i feel your point of the B roads sounds like you think its ok to go speeding down these type of roads? not sure if thats what your saying though.. weve all pushed are cars a little at some point.. knowing when the right time is seems to be the key point your trying to make here?

[Mikey]

i didnt drive like a twat with my gti..but you get cocky..the only time i got silly. it went wrong...badly wrong lol

[Ashleyp]

i didnt drive like a twat with my gti..but you get cocky..the only time i got silly. it went wrong...badly wrong lol

lol yeah i get what you mean mikey.. its a shame that for some people it goes even more wrong and they put lifes in danger.

as said. sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you dont

like i said about someone i knew.. he thought it was good to go speeding everywhere.. hes dead now.. paid the ultimate price

[Ocego_VTR]

lol what actually happened mikey if you dont mind saying?

[Mikey]

i went round a bend at aout 45 to 50. in a 60 zone!!

back end kicked out. straight into a 200 year old tree, needless to say the tree won. the gti bounced off the tree, back end spun around into the same enbankment...car was fcuked! engine was under the front seats...the radiator had pinged off 100 yards down the road. battery, never found it lol..mess...the only savable thing was a mirror and leather seats...

[Ocego_VTR]

fook i hope you take it easy in the VXR.

[Mikey]

lol very easy!

most of the time...i am human...witha 195bhp car.

[Ocego_VTR]

lol you should get the courtney sport upgrade 230bhp FTW!!

[Mikey]

lol...its 600 quid.. i get a bonus thursday from work of 1500 quid...HHMMMM

[Ocego_VTR]

haha would it understeer like the astra or vectra with 230bhp ??

[Mikey]

lol dunno about that, but it would kill the astra with that power and extra torque.

[Ocego_VTR]

yerr, btw you got any mods on it so far??

[shooorn94]

You've had a vtr at 17 and were absolutely fine, I take it you've nearly drove for a year Krys?

There's no reason why not as long as you're sensible, but everyone states they'll be sensible, I know I did... wrote off my 1.1 through idiocy, accidents happen in all sorts of vehicles and speed is a major factor... just be sensible. :y:

[Jamie]

Not if your careful,

I had a mk2 VTR for my car at 17 and everyone said id crash it you should have a 1.0 but i was fine..

I then got a 206 gti 180 as i was turning 19 again everyone said its too powerful and be careful youl crash it..

Now im 21 with a focus ST and no one has said it so far lol.

Tbh its all about the individual touch wood ive always been good and had no problems. I respect that if i fk up i fk myself up for as long as it takes to get out of it.

[eoey]

depends how mature and resposible you are, i started in a starlet gt never had a crash but look back on it now and the car was very fast and if i drove like a twat id be in huge debt with nothing to show..

[Zebeddy]

if u can afford it go for it

[MK2SLAG]

youve no license yet wait until you get it then buy a gti

[Krys_23]

You've had a vtr at 17 and were absolutely fine, I take it you've nearly drove for a year Krys?

There's no reason why not as long as you're sensible, but everyone states they'll be sensible, I know I did... wrote off my 1.1 through idiocy, accidents happen in all sorts of vehicles and speed is a major factor... just be sensible. :y:

Had a vtr when i was 16 and it's just dying at my uncles..

Sitting my test in september, Seen a nice vtr on PH with polished vts rims wouldn't mind a vtr but i don't know :n:

[saxmaster]

tbh people can say im a sensible driver bla bla but it takes one mistake to wrap it round a tree
but as also stated fast cars dont drive fast constantly
had my vtr at 16 furio at 17 and as some will no i prefer my furio not only cos the vtr has a kit but the furio is a better drive
and tbh you can still kill yourself in a 900cc car as you could in a 6l v6
at the end of the day it comes down to luck , not skill or driving ability etc

[MK2SLAG]

id say its the mental ability of the idiot driving,most people love showing off to people and end up smashing

[saxmaster]

as the mighty jc once said

'' its not spped that kills you, its the slowing down''

[lukowski14]

i don't know mate, but i am planning to get a mrk2 vtr for my first car (i'm 17 in August).

And the more i'm told by mates how stupid that is the more certain i am i want it bad lol.

[saxmaster]

tbh vtr's arent even fast i defo prefer the furio

[Hodgins91]

its always going to be one of those things that can be looked at in hundreds of ways, if you drive like a cunt then its your own fault if you wrap up. theres the small majority that do and make it look bad for the majority, and as previously said, just because you have the engine ability doesnt mean you have to cane it everywhere, what have you got to prove at the end of the day?

[danzman1991]

In a word, Yes.

[davew]

if its what you wnat mate get it.

you know the pros and cons, its up to you.

although having a wack first car would be more fun imo

[paddy88]

As long as you dont go crazy in it and are sensible! it will save you in the long run as u will want one after driving a saxo vtr for a year or so! howevere you may not appriciate the speed of it if it is your first car, however if you go from a vtr then to a vts/gti you will really feel the power you have! just a suggestion n e way!

Paddy

[Karl]

agreed,
having a 1.1 is better to build your driving experiences....
god i miss my 1.1 Saxo.

[paddy88]

p.s i totally agree with hodgins91

[turbotom]

all bares dwn to weather u can afford it!! first past my test i had a 1.1 rover 200 n paid 1400 quid... now got 4 years no claims n drivin 4 years n can insure my punot gt n vtr no problems... half my mates cant insure the gt on its own... get sum thn slow n modify wit money saved?

[weetz]

Everyone in their life must own a wrecker, builds experience imo.

off topic: turbotom are punto gt's really as bad as I have heard for realiability? (sp)

[turbotom]

tbh mate my gt hasnt let me dwn once... n as everyone is wen they get turbos people get boost happy n i am one of them... hence 9 points on my license... i had it now 18 months n its been dwn the drag strip few times n round donny track n its still goin... i had a drive shaft snap n boost pipe split n thts it!! shes runnin 18psi aswel and still a strong engine!!

[Lidders]

same answer as every1 else really m8, i really want a gti 2, but i went second best and got a vtr, im going to save up abit 4 the insurence i pay 162 a month with quinn only been driving since nov so its all good might have a look when i get my years no claims, i had a mini for my first car was gr8 fun on roundabouts and cornering was emense! awesome car!

[Pat_Vts]

put it this way i had a vtr 1st year and a vts the 2nd year...

just a example and im paying 1.5k full comp on a vts

[16valver]

Start with something small, and cheap to run, ei. 1.1 and learn how to work on the car with an old haynes manual. Then save your money for when your 19/20 and get a gti and do some mad tuning. You will have more fun and experience that way in the long run.

[Boyes]

yes pointless Imo might your throwing stupid money on insurance why not wait a few years get a couple of years no claims and wait till your 19+ (Premium drops alot for modified cars) then get one.

[saxo_asa]

Personally I refuse to pay that much for insurance on principal lol but then Im 'old'

[Scattle]

If you can afford it mate, go for it, I know I would...

[saxo_asa]

as the mighty jc once said

'' its not spped that kills you, its the slowing down''

actually it was "its suddenly becoming stationary" :geek: I watch too much Top Gear..repeats on Dave ftw

[Mrk1]

I could barely afford my westie at 17 most insurers wouldn't even give me a quote. If you can do it i don't see why not but don't rush into buying one just because you're desperate to own one.

Also i'll agree with everyone that said about "my first car experience" it's almost guarenteed you will knock it about a bit or scrape it no matter how careful you are (people seem to be attracted to new drivers). It's more fun to upgrade later, would you really want to risk a spanking 106gti?

[piggy123]

mate if you want to have a relatively good car thats modified a little and still not stupidly slow buy a furio/westcoast/quicksilver

i happen to have my west coast going up for sale as soon as i have reverted it back to nearly std.

im looking for 1200ono with it reverted back to standard except it will be lowered and on alloys and some 6 by 9's with a CD player fitted

thread below:
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=119690

had a full service 500 miles ago and full rebuild 5000 miles ago when i first bought it to get it completely back to new!

thanks sam

[FRATEone]

Scale of 1 - 10 how stupid is it to ge a VTR at 17, PM me your answers please ;) sorry for random post in your thread, better than getting bollocked at for making another thread lol .

[Mikey]

vtr at 17 is sound. there slow.

[piggy123]

whattttttttttt

trust me you want a cheap slow car that can handle

personally i think a VTR is a bit much but i know for a fact the insurance will be rediculous!!!!!!!
it will be bad enough on a 1.4!

i would say 8/10 (1 being lowest!)

[saxo_asa]

vtr at 17 is sound. there slow.

booo theyre not THAT slow! :boxing:

[Mikey]

booo theyre not THAT slow! :boxing:

lol there not that fast either :y:

[Jazz]

VTR at 17 is about as quick as you should sensibly go. They're perky enough for a 1.6, either that or a Zetec S. Cars like a 106 GTi or VTS at 17 will be a bit of a handful for an inexperienced driver...

[FRATEone]

VTR at 17 is about as quick as you should sensibly go. They're perky enough for a 1.6, either that or a Zetec S. Cars like a 106 GTi or VTS at 17 will be a bit of a handful for an inexperienced driver...

Just because we are just hitting 17 (well i am) doesn't mean im inexperienced... Just a chav and can drive cars, (friends cars mostly)

[Krys_23]

lol there not that fast either :y:

I'll race you on my tricycle Mikey..

[Krys_23]

Just because we are just hitting 17 (well i am) doesn't mean im inexperienced... Just a chav and can drive cars, (friends cars mostly)

I'm 18 soon :cool:

[Mikey]

I'll race you on my tricycle Mikey..

lol...pink slips??

[Jazz]

Just because we are just hitting 17 (well i am) doesn't mean im inexperienced... Just a chav and can drive cars, (friends cars mostly)

Actually it DOES mean you're inexperienced. How many years have you been driving on road regularly? Exactly, not too many I'm guessing. Car park burnouts in your burberry cap don't count for experience.

[Hopcraft]

you stupid little boy, get a 1.2 fiesta and be the envy of all your friends !

[Krys_23]

lol...pink slips??

Hmm i dono my baby is sittin on 6's

[Mikey]

i dream of 6's

[Krys_23]

i dream of 6's

Haha on a serious note what insurance group is the corsa vxr pal? :geek:

[Krys_23]

you stupid little boy, get a 1.2 fiesta and be the envy of all your friends !

1.25 to be precise

[Hopcraft]

thats the one !

specially the 'zetec', those are in a legue of their own !

[Ashleyp]

Just because we are just hitting 17 (well i am) doesn't mean im inexperienced... Just a chav and can drive cars, (friends cars mostly)

lol no.. you think you can drive cars.. bet you cant handle one well

[Krys_23]

thats the one !

specially the 'zetec', those are in a legue of their own !

Haha my mate has one he bought off his brother it's been in a collision with a dear, Can't say i'm a fan of any ford.. Neighbour had a 1.8 escort gti and a 1.1 106 independence would have it for breakfast.

[saxo_asa]

thats the one !

specially the 'zetec', those are in a legue of their own !

similar to the 1.6 zetec s up to 2nd/3rd gear

[Mikey]

corsa vxr is group 16d

[FRATEone]

Actually it DOES mean you're inexperienced. How many years have you been driving on road regularly? Exactly, not too many I'm guessing. Car park burnouts in your burberry cap don't count for experience.

Never done a burn out
Never wore a burberry cap
And when I do drive I keep it sensible because they know I don't have much money and can only afford to pass my test once , and when I've passed my test im guaranteed a job, the only thing im missing is my licence (said the gaffa of the place)

[Krys_23]

Never done a burn out
Never wore a burberry cap
And when I do drive I keep it sensible because they know I don't have much money and can only afford to pass my test once , and when I've passed my test im guaranteed a job, the only thing im missing is my licence (said the gaffa of the place)

Think you're in my boat

[Hopcraft]

how the fuck !!

my mates for a 1.8 gti and i can only just keep up in the old vtr !!

so a 1.1 independence can jog on, i think your escort is badged up tbh.

[Krys_23]

corsa vxr is group 16d

So is a Focus RS found that out the other day, 172 > Focus RS

[Krys_23]

how the fuck !!

my mates for a 1.8 gti and i can only just keep up in the old vtr !!

so a 1.1 independence can jog on, i think your escort is badged up tbh.

Well my neighbour didn't have a clue about cars and about 3-4 months later the sump went and the engine seized.. But the escort's are so dead it's quite amusing.

[Ashleyp]

Never done a burn out
Never wore a burberry cap
And when I do drive I keep it sensible because they know I don't have much money and can only afford to pass my test once , and when I've passed my test im guaranteed a job, the only thing im missing is my licence (said the gaffa of the place)

lol soo.. since when did driving illegally become sensible?

its not sensible when you get caught and lose your license before you even have one is it

[olly_vts]

I had a mk 2 clio when i was 17, cheap insurance, but slow as hell, so got a vts when i was 18.

[FRATEone]

lol soo.. since when did driving illegally become sensible?

its not sensible when you get caught and lose your license before you even have one is it

Empty car parks only,
I know the car park thing is going to sound chavy but where else can I go and learn for free ^-^

[MK2SLAG]

class thread,escort gti's are shit,buy whatever car you want,if your sensible youl keep the car between ditches yourself,nobody on here will make up your mind,like every other thread it will go way off topic and end up being closed

[Hopcraft]

I had a mk 2 clio when i was 17, cheap insurance, but slow as hell, so got a vts when i was 18.

s'all about the big step ups.

slow for first 1-2 years then go all out tbh.

[Ashleyp]

Empty car parks only,
I know the car park thing is going to sound chavy but where else can I go and learn for free ^-^

learning in your mates cars wont help you pass your test though ;) bad habbits ftl

would be funny if a cop drove into that carpark and caught you
no license, no insurance - youd be right up shit creek mate!

[Krys_23]

Empty car parks only,
I know the car park thing is going to sound chavy but where else can I go and learn for free ^-^

Old Runway?

[MK2SLAG]

no one can stop him driving wherever,its your own stupidity if you drive illegal,if you dont realise it then your mentally thick and should go and see a doctor

[FRATEone]

Old Runway?

In Birmingham...

[Krys_23]

In Birmingham...

Well there's about 3 up here and it's about 100th of the size of Birmingham

[MK2SLAG]

Well there's about 3 up here and it's about 100th of the size of Birmingham

old runways?thought the only 1 was dounreay?

[Krys_23]

old runways?thought the only 1 was dounreay?

There's an old runway at Wick airport i'm pretty sure that they don't use.. The one in Dounreay aswell..

[MK2SLAG]

There's an old runway at Wick airport i'm pretty sure that they don't use.. The one in Dounreay aswell..

ah thats rite,you can see it from the road going up to noss head,dounreay had tarmac racing on a month ago was lethal

[olly_vts]

slow for first 1-2 years then go all out tbh.


Deffo mate

[snottybadger]

Think its been said 100 times already but a 106 Gti isn't the best first car. I'd aim for group 6 or lower.

You can still enjoy driving a "slower" car, and a lot of first cars get introduced to a hedge at some point as you find your limits!

[DaveyBoy]

get whatever car you want dude.
my first actual car was a 1.2 clio. then a vauxall tigra. then a metro... then a 106. a few shiit cars and a few vtrs... i wish i went for a fast car straight away. because u try and drive slower cars like a convict. if you know the powers there you calm down a lot.

ive been fortunate to drive very fast cars. the first properly fast one was a type r. i fell in love with v tec. then got back in my tigra and i was like oh shit my 1.4 is actually really slow! so i calmed down loads. along the way i also drove scoobys, octavias, a few more vtecs, an evo, a williams, a few 182s, and some other fast cars here n there.
how is it possible i write off a 1.4 metro.. but not the type r?
cos i drove like a cunt in the shitmobile.
take nobodys advice and do what you want! drive how u want and u will see the learning curve. you will either learn a lesson because u crashed a car, or cant afford to run it. but hey everyone has to learn at some point.
have fun and let us know how you get on.

[Hodgins91]

get whatever car you want dude.
my first actual car was a 1.2 clio. then a vauxall tigra. then a metro... then a 106. a few shiit cars and a few vtrs... i wish i went for a fast car straight away. because u try and drive slower cars like a convict. if you know the powers there you calm down a lot.

ive been fortunate to drive very fast cars. the first properly fast one was a type r. i fell in love with v tec. then got back in my tigra and i was like oh shit my 1.4 is actually really slow! so i calmed down loads. along the way i also drove scoobys, octavias, a few more vtecs, an evo, a williams, a few 182s, and some other fast cars here n there.
how is it possible i write off a 1.4 metro.. but not the type r?
cos i drove like a cunt in the shitmobile.
take nobodys advice and do what you want! drive how u want and u will see the learning curve. you will either learn a lesson because u crashed a car, or cant afford to run it. but hey everyone has to learn at some point.
have fun and let us know how you get on.


one of the best responses yet!
nice one