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For all of those people who drive big engine or ‘now’ expensive cars to run.
I went down to the Peugeot dealer yesterday to get the diesel they promised and whilst in there, I was talking about the current situation with fuel & car tax. I basically said I’m glad I got rid of the Focus when I did, as trying to part exchange the car now I’d get next to nothing for it due to them not selling anymore.
Few of you must be selling VTS’s on here? Are you finding it hard? £310 is a LOT for car tax.
A few weeks ago I was thinking getting a Diesel was bad idea due to the prices, but when you think about it will hold the value quite well still and fact I just paid £120 for 12 months road tax, with next year been £90. I’m saving long term…..
What are you thoughts?
Do you reckon it’s going getting harder?
Fuel prices slowing down? I think they are….
I havent noticed fuel prices slowing down.
They just keep going up up up.
Its rediculous tbh.
-Jason-
7th July 2008, 13:14
They seem to be slowing here sort of staying at 115.9
well my bro pays about 320Pound or something like that to tax a Bmw convertible 2007 and the fuel is really bad as it drinks heavy but i dont seem prices going down tbh they just going up by the day !
Well at my local Morrisons it was going up on average 3p a week, now it's 1p a week.
Shell garage near work is 2p under everyone else though, which is strange.
EH_Fella
7th July 2008, 13:16
Don't forget the the road tax hike is currently under review! :)
leeroybrown
7th July 2008, 13:19
Was the main reason I got rid of the scooby... SO glad now as V-power is now something like £1.26 a litre and it used to drink it like a fish seriously.....Think i got more miles if i ragged it then i did with norma driving
As much as I dont want to pay the 310 for road tax... i aint getting rid of the car.. will just have to get on with it like everyone else
Troys have suggested a new way of cutting duty on fuel at the momment if they come to power
Scattle
7th July 2008, 13:19
Staying around 118.9 around here. Hasn't gone up recently.
Clouds_mate
7th July 2008, 13:22
paying £1.26 for petrol here. Gone through £60 worth of the shit in 5 days.
Just get on withit tbh.
When I eventually get my own car, its going to be either diesel or small engined for now. Prices round here are at about 119.9
Well say if I had a VTS, there is no way I could afford to pay for the 12 months road tax to be honest, then they are considering charging different tax on older cars which will mess a lot of people up.
Jobs on the line with all this, it's stupid...
Daffron
7th July 2008, 13:24
The road tax hike is gash, it hits the poor much harder than the rich.
Im not convinced by global warming either tbh, its happening but its not us.
I know we have to get on with it, but it's wrong that it's come to this.
Clouds_mate
7th July 2008, 13:26
Its not just fuel prices thats fucked tho. Its everything.
Average living costs have shot up. Even for non house owners.
Everything cost more yet still on normal wages. its poop
Quick
7th July 2008, 13:28
The pre March 2001 Vts has lower tax! Its going to make older cars hold more value!
Best way would be to get a pre 1972 car - free tax!!!
Rates effective from 13 March 2008
Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band CO2 (g/km)
19 Oct 1999 – 1 Mar 2001 £101.75 £185.00 -
1 Mar 2001 – 1 Dec 2003 £115.50 £210.00 F 201
Rates effective from April 2009
Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band CO2 (g/km)
19 Oct 1999 – 1 Mar 2001 £101.75 £185.00 -
1 Mar 2001 – 1 Dec 2003 £165.00 £300.00 K 201
Rates effective from April 2010
Date of Registration 6 Months 12 Months Band CO2 (g/km)
19 Oct 1999 – 1 Mar 2001 £110.00 £200.00 -
1 Mar 2001 – 1 Dec 2003 £170.50 £310.00 K 201
Its not just fuel prices thats fucked tho. Its everything.
Average living costs have shot up. Even for non house owners.
Everything cost more yet still on normal wages. its poop
Exactly.
I was eating a Tesco Cheese & Tomato Pasta Snack at lunch – it’s now £1.28……I could of sworn it was £1.09 a few weeks back.
Fuel has gone up, food (due to running wagons etc), car tax, insurance is obviously increasing.
Average cost of living is now up 11%
Average wage rise is like 2 – 3%.
House prices are coming DOWN but nobody can get the 10% deposit.
Fucked up country we live in, seriously!
VtsTom
7th July 2008, 13:29
Pre 2001 vts's FTW. £185 for a years tax. Mines due at the end of this actualy, nearly forgot.
For how fun and cheap they are, saxos have allways rocked my cock.
Tupps
7th July 2008, 13:31
Space raiders are no longer 10p
Now thats SHIT
Space raiders are no longer 10p
Now thats SHIT
Ain't they like 15p now?
I read a story about them a while back, it was quite funny.
leeroybrown
7th July 2008, 13:35
Your having laugh 15 fucking pence
FFS
We are all dooooooooooooooomed
stella2345
7th July 2008, 13:35
Space raiders are no longer 10p
Now thats SHIT what?? that is shit
my fella wont have to pay tax soon as his car is that old
Quick
7th July 2008, 13:39
what?? that is shit
my fella wont have to pay tax soon as his car is that old
They changed it - its only cars built 1972 and before - the 25 year rule was scrapped!
-Jason-
7th July 2008, 13:40
How much is it for 1998 vts/gti?
stella2345
7th July 2008, 13:42
its an e reg so how old does that make it?
Clouds_mate
7th July 2008, 13:42
Think my cars £230 a year tax.
leeroybrown
7th July 2008, 13:42
FFS next you will be telling me there is no longer a 1p chew
leeroybrown
7th July 2008, 13:43
E reg will be 86/87 i think
EH_Fella
7th July 2008, 13:43
In all fairness, the biggest problem is the proposed car tax hikes, the cost of fuel and thus the amount of money people spend getting to and from work. The simple solution is to take public transport or buy a bike (if you can).
The credit crunch isn't as bad as it seems, the media obviously just make people much more jumpy. With the increase of food and drink me and EssexHoney are actually being more careful about what we buy and to be honest, aren't much worse off. The money is there for people to borrow, however the criteria required to get your hands on a loan is just stricter.
Also, I'm more worried about the rise of gas for the end of the year than the cost of food. I'm happy to live on beans on toast for a month ;)
mikeyb_lyd
7th July 2008, 13:43
'Freddo' chocolate bars have also gone from 10 to 15p. I now refuse to buy them
Quick
7th July 2008, 13:48
E reg will be 86/87 i think
Close, its 87/88 for E
VtsTom
7th July 2008, 13:48
Ribena bottles used to be 99p, now £1.9p. Wtf? Not happy, allways got to have a spare 10p unless i want shit loads of change. Just not on
stella2345
7th July 2008, 13:51
Close, its 87/88 for E
glad its only on the road for 6 months a year then
danzman1991
7th July 2008, 14:12
It's not the car, its the way you drive it ;)
Tupps
7th July 2008, 14:26
I'm so angry with Ingland right now
Dont do enough miles in the Clio to notice / care.
sim69er
7th July 2008, 14:51
Space raiders are no longer 10p
Now thats SHIT
and freddos have gone up..15p:fcuk: lol, gotta tax my car at the end of this month £101.75 for 6months when i first had it, it was only £97 for 6months
Holy Hell. It's risen a whole £4.75,
now you wont be able to get a Burger King.....
It's not that much, seriously.
JC-Furio
7th July 2008, 14:55
Petrol is worse than anything... will feel it going to uni and back everyday for 3 years lol. Might actually be cheaper to live there i'm thinking 40 mile round trip a day... going to suck balls.
Tis life though... get in serious debt then die, that's the way to roll :y:
Ocego_VTR
7th July 2008, 14:55
yerr its still money you want too keep.
Ashleyp
7th July 2008, 15:10
tbh everyone should break the law then go to prison.. its a easier life there lol.. free food, free shelter, no bills, no tax, no rent / mortgage..
at the end of the day its allways going to keep rising, as it allways has done.. a litre of petrol was 10p 40 years ago,
and iirc its sposed to stop rising by 2011 (well thats when the credit crunch is supposed to end)
By 2011 we will be all unemployed and skint.
Way to go tbh!
MikeCracknell
7th July 2008, 15:54
Well well well ;)
I am still glad I get 360 miles out of £40 off of fuel, plus I didn't have to outlay a MASSIVE amount in the short term to save on fuel in the very very very long term.
That what the government are thinking - everyone is gonna sell up and get more efficient cars that cost a lot more....the average Joe Public isn't gonna sell his car that cos £3k to get a more fuel/tax friendly car for £6k+, just to save about £100 a year on road tax. In the very long term, perhaps over about 40 years, forking out in the first place may be worth it, but how many of us keep our cars for more than 5 years, let alone 40?! lol!
It's WELL obvious that statment is aimed at me Mike.
LOL.
Personally, i used to hate it but i can afford to run my "big" engined car quite easily and don't really mind it.
Yeah tax is a bastard and petrol isn't great but tbh i wouldn't go back in time and not buy it.
MikeCracknell
7th July 2008, 15:59
It's WELL obvious that statment is aimed at me Mike.
LOL.
Mwqahahahahahahahah :):):):):):):) :hug: :hug:
It may have been, but the fact is, that it is true about everybody :):)
Leemc2008
7th July 2008, 15:59
Doesnt really bother me all that much.. at the end of the day, everyone is in the same boat..
If you enjoy having a bigger engined car, just have to work that little harder to afford it.. if you want something bad enough you'll get it.. I run my VTS and 600cc motorbike.. just fine.. tax increase is only affecting cars produced after 2001 right? Mine is a 98' model. :P
Mwqahahahahahahahah :):):):):):):) :hug: :hug:
It may have been, but the fact is, that it is true about everybody :):)
I know I put money down for the car, but in 5 years chances are it's still going to be worth about £4000.
Roughly speaking.
JC-Furio
7th July 2008, 16:03
Balls to getting an 01/02 plate S next year then :D
Leemc2008
7th July 2008, 16:04
Everyone will have to buy all cars pre-01.. Plenty of cool cars about!!
I know I put money down for the car, but in 5 years chances are it's still going to be worth about £4000.
Roughly speaking.
hmmm, older ones are going for less than that already....
hmmm, older ones are going for less than that already....
I looked at an 51 reg one other week, it was on 90,000 miles and going for £4,000.
If I can get £3000-£4000 come selling it, or the fact I may just keep it, I aint' fussed tbh!
You need a 206 gti in your life tbh Luke.
You need a 206 gti in your life tbh Luke.
LOL aye miss the petrol car tbh!
But heyho!
MikeCracknell
7th July 2008, 16:11
De-cat diesel doesn't quite smell the same as de-cat petrol lol
180 for dan next if i can blag a car allowance next year. After what Jamie said about throttle bodies i want 240bhp.
Marcos
7th July 2008, 16:12
space raiders are 25p by me :( but there bigger bags i think as for tax is got to be paid for at end of day my mums is £35 a year and thats only caus eshe has air con :(
The one thing that puts me off Peugeot 206, especially the GTi is the costs if something go wrong - especially after what Jamie wrote.
Then again, suppose it's same for me.
hmmm, just get friends in the trade. To fix my driveshaft will cost me £20 labour plus parts. So maybe £120 all in.
flee123
7th July 2008, 16:21
Doesnt bother me too much. Only do a few miles a day. I feel sorry for the who do a lot of miles. My dad does around 45 miles a day to work and back so it pisses him off big stylee
Have just bought a 52 VTR though, shit!
Hopcraft
7th July 2008, 16:24
Im only 20, fuck saving my money, rather have fun with a 2L.
Diesel at this age,,, fuck that.
Save that for my wife and kids in a couple of years time.
MarkyG
7th July 2008, 16:26
Few of you must be selling VTS’s on here? Are you finding it hard? £310 is a LOT for car tax.
£310 for car tax on a VTS?? ive not paid anything near that, i pay £205 a year for my VTS!
GrantW
7th July 2008, 16:28
Im only 20, fuck saving my money, rather have fun with a 2L.
Diesel at this age,,, fuck that.
Save that for my wife and kids in a couple of years time.
Thats my sentiments exactly, which is why im selling up the VTR once I get it back from being fixed, and getting a fiat coupe 20v turbo :D
£310 for car tax on a VTS?? ive not paid anything near that, i pay £205 a year for my VTS!
You'll be paying £310 next year mate.
MarkyG
7th July 2008, 16:38
Woohooo!! Looks like its back to cycling then!!
JC-Furio
7th July 2008, 16:47
You'll be paying £310 next year mate.
Presuming the tax thing actually goes through.
AshleyW2005
7th July 2008, 16:54
me n a mate worked out in my scooby im getting around 10mpg lovely innit :( especially with the prices going up and up
Barry123
7th July 2008, 17:57
Space raiders are no longer 10p
Now thats SHIT
serious!?!
fuck this. I'm emigrating.
word.
Can't say I'm bothered... I cycle more and use the car less... rock on.
Barry123
7th July 2008, 18:01
I know I put money down for the car, but in 5 years chances are it's still going to be worth about £4000.
Roughly speaking.
I looked at an 51 reg one other week, it was on 90,000 miles and going for £4,000.
If I can get £3000-£4000 come selling it, or the fact I may just keep it, I aint' fussed tbh!
did it sell at that price though... i mean there's a saxo with a £20k asking price... maybe I can sell mine at that price then?
£3k max man.
MarkyG
7th July 2008, 18:14
Can't say I'm bothered... I cycle more and use the car less... rock on.
I'll be cycling more once the Golf arrives, no point really in driving to work, its only 3 miles away.....
.....yeah i know, lazy sod, and in answer to that......NO! There are several fields between me and work, muddy ones.
Barry123
7th July 2008, 18:17
I'll be cycling more once the Golf arrives, no point really in driving to work, its only 3 miles away.....
.....yeah i know, lazy sod, and in answer to that......NO! There are several fields between me and work, muddy ones.
lazy sod... serious
3 miles is nowt.
even if I drive the same distance when I can't be arsed.
hypocrisy ftw
bullit
7th July 2008, 18:17
i felt shit today, wkend drinking not helping. so gonna go in a mo and drown me sorrows
It horrid, all this increasing. Mine is pre-march 01 (registered jan 2001) so I just miss the massive hike I hope. Running on V-power really doesn't help things :n:
MarkyG
7th July 2008, 18:18
:D yep !
Seriously though, its a pain having to drive to work, prefer cycling, but will be doing the latter come the Golf arrival day, dont see the point in driving the 3 mile distance with it. Mind you the saxo goes on the motorway more than it does normal roads!
then wen cycling becomes the next big thing the gov all tax that. cant win tbh, put up or move away.
MarkyG
7th July 2008, 21:22
Very true, b*st*rd government.
Even on a bicycle i got pulled over by the police, for wearing sunglasses, on a sunny day, cycling on the road as i should be, in my mega sexy bike helmet.
Essex Police FTW! NOT! .
gartrell
7th July 2008, 21:37
Is this whole tax thing going through, as im sure there was humming and harring, nothings set in stone is it?
I was planning on a Fezza ST as a next car, I'm thinking now im going to buy a pre 2001 VTS, cam it and spunk the rest of the money on sweets than pay out my nose on tax.
I thought the tax thing had already gone through?
Everywhere you look it's all printed.
Recovery
7th July 2008, 21:40
I have a 2 litre im getting hit hard :(
Jojobunbun
7th July 2008, 21:44
whoever said about freddos going up...stole my idea!!haha!
my ka is £145 this year! i know you saxo drivers its ridiculous but a ka!?!
mine runs out end of the month too... no new shoes this month :( :( x
bullit
7th July 2008, 21:47
i used to pay 380 for 2 cars. how that work when i can only drive one at once
2 insurance, taxes, services happy days they were
Have you sold the Saxo now?
I have a 2 litre im getting hit hard :(
pics of the 172!
It's the photo gallery Karl.
bytor
7th July 2008, 22:23
I wouldn't sell a car because of an extra £100 a year on tax on a vts and many other cars, thats saving less than £10 a month if you was really tight for cash!
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