Subaru Imprezza or Mitsubishi Evo

[Andi9386]

Which is Better?

[Karl]

Evo by a long long long shot.

[Danr]

I prefer the Evo.

[David]

Evo.
Whyy's this important?
& it's Impreza ;)

[Tupps]

Depends which ones you're comparing imo

[Modified]

myself id defo go for a evo!!! :)

[AdamW]

Evo all day long.....

[Mike_08]

Evo all the way!!!

[Ryan]

andi why is this important??

[Robb]

Dunno, always been a scooby man myself.

New Evo looks smart though. And the new Impreza................doesnt.

[Karl]

the most basic Evo is the 260.
Leagues above the most basic Turbo'd Scoob WRX 225.


The only thing Id rather have a Scoob for, is that the service intervals are longer iirc and cost less lol.

[AdamW]

Bord of my Civic now........

On the hunt for a tidy evo come January

[Robb]

No FTW Scooby on the cards?

[hellonpluto]

EVO all day long...i've read in EVO mag when these two cars went head-to-head the subaru still understeers a tad where the EVO is steady as a rock especially the EVO X

[Ryan]

new scooby is awful in its style imo.

Tried to drop the car out of one market and into another and lost alot of face doing so.

[Karl]

Would actual be legendary if Adam rocked the Forza 2 FTW Scoob.
WarrrppppTisshhhh *Beep from the car he's just pulled out on.*

[VTR_Craig]

evo is better but i would have the scooby, just not the new one

[AdamW]

Yellow evo 8......12grand.

BananaWales

[djflipsaxo]

i like both but if i had the choice it would be the evo.

[Jamie]

Scooby is cheaper so id go scooby however... the EVO x is beau

[immense]

EVO ...

[Dr_Lee]

evo everyday of the week.

[Karl]

If I was gonna buy a Scoob, It'd have to be a decent spec one,
the 225s are really not all that.

[Leemc2008]

Definately have the Impreza.. EVO is a computer on wheels, Scoob is the real drivers car!

[Predator_R32]

evo everytime for me, white with white or black wheels just makes sense :)

tbh more and more people are getting scoobies these days, its the saxo of this era :p

[Leemc2008]

I'm bias though.. having frequently driven JDM WRX STi Ver.4, 320bhp.. Dont like EVO's.. Boxer engine for me.. :P

[Robb]

These Scoobs are mint, shame you always see 45 year old men driving them...

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4725/rb1ld2.jpg

[matt_vtr_15]

Evo everyday of the week!!!

Nothing wrong with the scoob... but the experience in my mates evo 6 totally shat on the experience of the scooby sti...

the attention from people in the evo could get annoying though...

[martinmac]

Evo 5 or 6 !!:y: in white!!! with white wheels and red mud flaps :p car pornography tbh

[Leemc2008]

These Scoobs are mint, shame you always see 45 year old men driving them...


Need to be old enough to get insurance..

[Col_VTR]

Evo for me :y:

[Ocego_VTR]

If I was gonna buy a Scoob, It'd have to be a decent spec one,
the 225s are really not all that.

our one's a 225bhp but it wasnt very fast it was quicker than the 260bhp evo but we had it remapped to 270bhp what makes a BIG difference.

[Ocego_VTR]

and i have always preferred the scooby been in a 6 and an 8 but the jdm sti is well quicker.

[craigy_87]

evo for me aswell

as much as i dont like the new scooby there is a white one parked not far from me an i kinda like it :oops::oops:

[Mikey]

both great cars, i'd find it hard to choose.

although the new scooby is a let down

[Mrk1]

Evo for me. Tommi Makinen Evo 6 please.

As for the new editions of both I think they've both loss the rally hertiage. Evo X is way slicker than the new scooby though.

[-jon-]

the new evo looks better than the new scooby, but i would have a old scoobie over a old evo.

[haroldno1]

topgear did this didnt they... evo better faster. but impreza was nicer to own?

[flee123]

Evo 9 ftw. One of the cool FQ-360's with the fins on the roof. I swear I will own one like this one day

http://jimsgarage.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/mitsubishi_evo_8_fq36011.jpg

[puzzledzippy]

i was thinking about them to but have now decided on a supra

[leeroybrown]

Rather have my balls cut of with a blunt knife then have an EVO

Scooby is the one to have

Karl.... Dont buy a UK 225BHP model then... you buy the JDM models

The higher power EVO the more lag you get

FQ400 is a primer example

Lichfield type 25, Spec C or D or even the Rb320 runs all over any EVO in my opnion

[matt_vtr_15]

Rather have my balls cut of with a blunt knife then have an EVO

Scooby is the one to have

Karl.... Dont buy a UK 225BHP model then... you buy the JDM models

The higher power EVO the more lag you get

FQ400 is a primer example

Lichfield type 25, Spec C or D or even the Rb320 runs all over any EVO in my opnion

all matter of opinion though a lot of facts there...

i want a mint evo 6 at some point in my life....

[HayleyVts]

my mate had the evo 9 fq-360 it was much nicer then scoob imo and sounds better.
but i didnt say that okay, the bf would kick my ass.

[matt_vtr_15]

my mate had the evo 9 fq-360 it was much nicer then scoob imo and sounds better.
but i didnt say that okay, the bf would kick my ass.

you stick to that!!!

good view!!

[Karl]

Leeroy,
if your in a say FQ400,
to avoid lag,
just drive in the right gear then I guess?

[Chris_F]

evo all the way,
especially the evoV

mmmm yes please!

[HayleyVts]

http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0402_01z+Mitsubishi_Lancer_Evolution_Subaru_WRX_ST I+Front_View.jpg

tough choice but the evo looks more mean, id be more intimidated with that behind me!

[leeroybrown]

Leeroy,
if your in a say FQ400,
to avoid lag,
just drive in the right gear then I guess?

Been in a 427 bhp and the lag was silly, my mate has a 330bhp scooby leaves it for dead off the mark with hus turbo being less laggy

320bhp or the 360 can be mapped to be quicker then a 400 any day with out the massive amount of lag

[Karl]

Surely if you just hammer it in every gear the lag just goes un noticed?

[leeroybrown]

Once it gets going i wont lye its like rips you eyes from the sockets, but its getting going

Scooby man through and through

Give me Litchfield type 25 any day, quick then most super cars to

[Ocego_VTR]

Once it gets going i wont lye its like rips you eyes from the sockets, but its getting going

Scooby man through and through

Give me Litchfield type 25 any day, quick then most super cars to

that thing will tear most supercars apart on a track.

[Danr]

Anti lagged evo would kick the scooby's arse though. There's always ways around stuff.

[VTR-Chris]

wow, what an original topic

thanks

[darkslag72]

evo, older scoobs are cool tho.

[Ocego_VTR]

my mates got a imported scooby 290bhp it kills uk evo 8 fq300's. although import classics are genuinly lighter and rev higher.

[leeroybrown]

Rev the same....only rev more if they are an sti

[Ocego_VTR]

thought imported WRX's rev higher than the UK ones both standard btw not re-mapped.

[Jazz]

Subaru Impreza better for day to day use, Evo more focussed 0n track but less forgiving on the road. Both cost a fair few bob to run...

I love the Evo range but I guess the Scoob is a better day to day compromise.. Both very nice cars. New shape Subaru doesn't look half as good as the older saloons.

The Impreza STi WR1 is simply gorgeous, really loving those at the minute. Then again Evo 8 FQ-400 does it for me too lol.
STi WR1 limited edition.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/Scutchio/DSC00006.jpg

Evo 8 FQ-400
http://www.speedwheels.gr/dynamic/images/zoom/BYBMHV/viewsize/1.jpg

Hard to choose really...

Edit- on the subject of lag, yes FQ-400 is a very laggy beast, Turbo Technics do an engine-upgrade for your FQ320, 360 etc which takes it to over 400bhp with much much less lag, which makes them a lot better.

[Ocego_VTR]

Saw a WR1 today and it was soooo nice i really love them the EVO is really nice but for me it would be the WR1.

[Jazz]

Saw a WR1 today and it was soooo nice i really love them the EVO is really nice but for me it would be the WR1.

Yeah they look incredible, and sound it too, that 2.0 boxer with it's deep throbby rumble is intense. I hear as standard they do understeer a little when really pushed, so a WR1 with a fast-road setup would be just the ticket for me :P

[Ocego_VTR]

Yeah they look incredible, and sound it too, that 2.0 boxer with it's deep throbby rumble is intense. I hear as standard they do understeer a little when really pushed, so a WR1 with a fast-road setup would be just the ticket for me :P

on the track they understeer day to day driving they are immense machines waving bye bye to m3's is a laff aswel :P

[Jazz]

on the track they understeer day to day driving they are immense machines waving bye bye to m3's is a laff aswel :P

Yeah, pretty much as quick as M3's and 911s on the road. 316bhp standard is pretty nice. Might possibly be looking at WR1's this time next year tbh...

[Karl]

that grey evo needs tyre shine.

[Mikey]

id have a 22b or a p1 over any evo tbh.

its not all about speed lol

[Jazz]

Colin McRae (RIP) had a 22B as a daily driver iirc, he absolutely loved it.

http://www.scouk.net/subaru-impreza/special-edition-subaru-impreza-rb320-uk300-p1-wr1-rb5-22b/22b.jpg

Like owning your own old-school rally car. Lovely.

[Ocego_VTR]

Yeah, pretty much as quick as M3's and 911s on the road. 316bhp standard is pretty nice. Might possibly be looking at WR1's this time next year tbh...

yerr there really good hope your looking foward to running costs hehe.

[Karl]

Whats a 22B?

[Mikey]

22b is a great car. i will own one some day lol.

at ten of the best the owners club was there.

there was some mint examples.

[Mikey]

Whats a 22B?

special edtion 3 door scooby

wide body and more power basically.

copied of the rally car.

quite rare.

:y:

[Mikey]

karl:

http://www.22b.com/media_cardriver.htm

[monster-saxo]

Evo all day long.I was in a new 2.5 turbo scooby the last week on a driving experience and also an evo 9 and the evo was well better

[leeroybrown]

Whats a 22B?

KARL fuck me i will shoot u

Its a 2.2 version of the boxer engine wide archs etc like 1000 made with about 20 uk models

[Jazz]

Whats a 22B?

One of the classic Imprezas. 280PS/ 276bhp officially (many actually had more), limited edition models, meant to be really fantastic to drive, but massively high maintenance. P1 model was similar but without the wider bodykit with small differences I believe...

Edit- wrong stats sorry, 350bhp at 6000 rpm, and as Leeroy said, displacement increased to 2.2. The 22B was built to commemorate Subaru's 40th anniversary as well as the 3rd consecutive manufacturer's title for Subaru in the FIA World Rally Championship, which is a testament to their motorsport success.

[Mikey]

a lot of p1's are imports.

not UK ones.

there the one to get ive been told lol

[Karl]

Looks mint that 22B,
I knew about P1s,
thought they were the one to get.

lol.
Leeroy calm it down, just because I dont know about Imprezas lol.

[leeroybrown]

come on thats the one impreza everyone remembers

[Mikey]

there like 20 grand arnt they lee?

scooby man

[Ocego_VTR]

One of the classic Imprezas. 280PS/ 276bhp officially (many actually had more), limited edition models, meant to be really fantastic to drive, but massively high maintenance. P1 model was similar but without the wider bodykit with small differences I believe...

and even now jdm ones are 21k http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/652990.htm

[leeroybrown]

Were more then that back in the day

[Mikey]

Were more then that back in the day

what came first the scoob or the evo?

[Karl]

what came first the scoob or the evo?

Clio imho.

[Mikey]

Clio imho.

were talking about serious performance cars here. not shopping trip cars :homme:

[leeroybrown]

Well the scooby game for the legacy that was before the evo

[Ocego_VTR]

what came first the scoob or the evo?

scooby in the uk iirc

[Jazz]

22B's sold for just under 40k when they were new back in 1998. Limited edition plus their rally-associations, plus the fact that both Subaru's rally drivers McRae and Nicky Gist drove them at the time meant prices were always going to stay high.

P1 was a Prodrive UK only version with 280ps/276bhp, so the 22B was more mental still lol.

[Mikey]

owning a 22b means so much more than an evo i think. its a car with history. and limited. witch means your prob not gunna park next to one at asda..like an evo.

[Ocego_VTR]

owning a 22b means so much more than an evo i think. its a car with history. and limited. witch means your prob not gunna park next to one at asda..like an evo.

most 22bs are owned by rally enthusiasts who polish them everywekk and do 1000 miles a year

[Mikey]

most 22bs are owned by rally enthusiasts who polish them everywekk and do 1000 miles a year

and you wouldnt want to be part of that club?

[leeroybrown]

P1 is the uk version of a jdm impreza type r withh all the good bits taken off thats all it is

[Ocego_VTR]

and you wouldnt want to be part of that club?

what you mean? :S

[Mikey]

what you mean? :S

lol i'd love a car like that. that i could wank over...and spank on a country road on a sunday lol

:cool:

[Ocego_VTR]

yerr so would i 2bh hehe

[Ari]

Evo for me..

Depends on how you like your car to handle tho..

The impreza will understeer although there is a simple suspension adjustment you can do to improve this. The Evo's from Version 4 onwards are far more neutral verging on oversteer due to better weight distribution and AYC.

The best Evo is actually the 6 RS Sprint which does without the AYC (uses a hellical front diff instead), its stripped out, lightweight glass and panels, has a titanium turbo and has closer gearing. The versions after that are far lardier/heavier and simply not as focussed as the 5 and 6 RS Sprint. Mitsu homologated these purely for the WRC so no compromises in its design. spec and build, Mitsu are also rumoured to have made a loss on each one sold!


Imprezas are as common as muck.. unless you find a nice 22b or P1 which are the only 2 Scoobies I'd consider... even then I think the 6 RS Sprint would be my choice.

[leeroybrown]

you all under look the type r impreza

[Mikey]

you all under look the type r impreza

enlighten us :afro:

[leeroybrown]

The Type R was introduced in 1997 for the MY97 model and is a 2 door coupe and has some interesting features aimed at homoligation for rallying. It is this vehicle that Prodrive used for their Group N customer cars and also the donor vehicle for the WRC in 1997, 98, 99 and 2000. The two door body is reported to be stronger and stiffer than the 4 door and there is a solid rear bulk head adding to stiffness. Differences between the Type R and the 4 door STi models are:-


2 door bodyshell
Short ratio gear box
Adjustable electromechanical centre differential
NO ABS
Intercooler water spray
Rear twin opposed piston brake caliper (other models get a single piston caliper)
Rear tinted windows
No electric aerial (Type R gets similar to UK spec. on drivers A pillar)
No in car entertainment
The gear box ratios found on the Type R are shorter than those found on the standard STi (which themselves are lower than the UK model). These gear ratios have been changed over the years and the first Type R introduced in 1997 had ratios a lot shorter than the ones found on the MY2000 model. For the MY97 4th is 106mph at the 7900rpm red line, whilst 5th is 146mph (sounds high enough but 5th in the Type R is actually shorter than 4th in the UK/export model).

The WRX RA STi is an RA with the higher output STi engine with water spray and a better interior.

thats the one to have

Honest a turned one of this and they way they go through the gears nothing standards a chance

[Mikey]

is that copy and pasted or from your head lol

[leeroybrown]

copy and pasted couldnt be assed to type lol

[Mikey]

lol fair enough pal.

[Ari]

The Type R was introduced in 1997 for the MY97 model and is a 2 door coupe and has some interesting features aimed at homoligation for rallying. It is this vehicle that Prodrive used for their Group N customer cars and also the donor vehicle for the WRC in 1997, 98, 99 and 2000. The two door body is reported to be stronger and stiffer than the 4 door and there is a solid rear bulk head adding to stiffness. Differences between the Type R and the 4 door STi models are:-


2 door bodyshell
Short ratio gear box
Adjustable electromechanical centre differential
NO ABS
Intercooler water spray
Rear twin opposed piston brake caliper (other models get a single piston caliper)
Rear tinted windows
No electric aerial (Type R gets similar to UK spec. on drivers A pillar)
No in car entertainment
The gear box ratios found on the Type R are shorter than those found on the standard STi (which themselves are lower than the UK model). These gear ratios have been changed over the years and the first Type R introduced in 1997 had ratios a lot shorter than the ones found on the MY2000 model. For the MY97 4th is 106mph at the 7900rpm red line, whilst 5th is 146mph (sounds high enough but 5th in the Type R is actually shorter than 4th in the UK/export model).

The WRX RA STi is an RA with the higher output STi engine with water spray and a better interior.

thats the one to have

Honest a turned one of this and they way they go through the gears nothing standards a chance

Type-R's are import only though and are generally considered to stiffly sprung for UK roads... the P1 however is basically a Type-R heavily modified and built by Prodrive for british roads, with loads of extra goodies.. all the right bits, twice the car the basic Type-R is.

[leeroybrown]

Type-R's are import only though and are generally considered to stiffly sprung for UK roads... the P1 however is basically a Type-R heavily modified and built by Prodrive for british roads, with loads of extra goodies.. all the right bits, twice the car the basic Type-R is.

iS IT FUCK

Prodrive all they did was remove the good bits and changed the suspension

Like the centrol control diff
Waterspray
Electronic heater controls
Remove the type r dials
Crapper gearbox

The P1 is no where near as good at the P1 no were near

Yep and every single evo is import to make no difference

[Ari]

I stand corrected.. :oops:

[leeroybrown]

As good car they may be there P1 is watered down version

[lemon191]

Yellow evo 8......12grand.

BananaWales

if add some carbon to that yellow would look great imo :drool:

[DJjuveVTS]

Evo all the way, can tell with number of votes! subaru's are just gettin boring to me, see more scoobys than i do saxo's now!

[Jimmy-Boy]

Subaru all day every day (only ones with the boxer sti engine though) fuck the new crap the wankers have made :(

[Payney]

Evos all the time for me tbh.

[E1999G]

Evo i love the new one :P

[jonezy]

both the new ones are fairly similar, not much in it.


old ones tho there was loads of difference, drove both one after the other and the evo 6 was way better than the 55 plate sti

[Aaron]

evoo allll dayy all night all year

[Tupps]

The P1 is no where near as good at the P1 no were near


You make soooo much sense !!

[Gabbastard]

I used to like Evos, but both Subarus and Evos are now ubiquitous drug dealer cars; Impreza for the lesser dealers, Evos for the class A dealers. Due to that, and the amount of cheap shaggers (mostly imports) available, every fucker has one.

If I was going to buy a car in that vein, it would probably be an old S4, only set you back 5grand. Lot better looking that either of the hideously designed Jap mobiles,more luxurious,and still fucking quick to boot.

[Scattle]

Love the Evo, So would have to be that.

[m4tty]

the evo bye a long shot,i think the body work on a evo always looks better

[shauny]

Evo all the way

[Marcos]

evo all the way but more expensive car for decent ones but i want a scoob as cheaper :)

[saxokid100]

Scooby for me!!!:y::y:

[djrem]

The correct answer is Evo.

[grant_evans]

gota be an evo over a scooby every time

[Mr_suv]

evo ftw pretzas way too common!

[Marshy]

Evo FTW! They cost more, but definately worth it

[sexylittleass]

Evo :y: Don't like Subaru's at all :p