Erm, your oppinion ?

[Andy_VT]

do you think you guys give me a hand? im a noob at cars (im 15, 16 in october) and i was thinking of buying a saxo for my first car. please help me decide and tell me what to look after. (in 1 year, the will be other cars, but still.. ) thanks in advance :P

http://pistonheads.com/sales/696905.htm
http://pistonheads.com/sales/695168.htm
http://pistonheads.com/sales/691592.htm
http://pistonheads.com/sales/597253.htm
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/CITROEN+SAXO/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-147-191-240-4294966781-4294967130/advert.action?R=200837318312900&distance=63&postcode=ss08ab&channel=CARS&make=CITROEN&model=SAXO&min_pr=&max_pr=2000&max_mileage=
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/CITROEN+SAXO/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-147-191-240-4294966781-4294967130/advert.action?R=200836318271061&distance=82&postcode=ss08ab&channel=CARS&make=CITROEN&model=SAXO&min_pr=&max_pr=2000&max_mileage=

i don't care about how it looks, well, i do, a bit. 1st, i want to have a good engine, then the look

Thanks for your answer and your time

[Ashleyp]

at 17 your going to get raped on insurance

dont get a vtr if you want to have money imo

no offence, but most 17 year olds with a vtr are just another crash waiting to happen, especially if like you, your ambition with the car is power

also, dont get a car now lol, your too young, got over a year before your 17

[Ashleyp]

looked at those links quickly, and would advise when looking for a car

1.1 - good starter car, cheap and easy to run
1.4 furio / westcoast - more expensive to run than a 1.1, but a smaller engine with the looks of the vts, which means cheaper insurance etc
1.6 vtr - very expensive to run as a 17 year old
1.6 vts - keep dreaming :P lol

[dobbo_1]

looked at those links quickly, and would advise when looking for a car

1.1 - good starter car, cheap and easy to run
1.4 furio / westcoast - more expensive to run than a 1.1, but a smaller engine with the looks of the vts, which means cheaper insurance etc
1.6 vtr - very expensive to run as a 17 year old
1.6 vts - keep dreaming :P lol

go for what you can afford mate i got a vtr for a first car and still had money just shop around and get a few quotes

[Andy_VT]

so, which one is the cheap and good one ?

[Saxo_Scott]

if you have the cash to splash then go for a vtr

if not then either go for the 1.1 or the furio

furio has the looks of the vtr/vts without the sting on the insurance

[Ashleyp]

honestly theres a lot of people on here that get a vtr as a 1st car, and because "driving fast iz well kool" they end up crashing

if you want something with looks of a vt* and cheap insurance, the furio / westcoast are the best

unless you enjoy getting arse raped by insurance :P lol

[Andy_VT]

hehehe, ill try to look for some cheap insurance. i think im gonna get the saxo vts. 999 pounds...

[Andy_VT]

double post, prices will change over a year...

[Ashleyp]

you know no insurance company will insure you on a vts at 17 right? lol

if you do get insured, expet 4k or more lol

[Andy_VT]

will they give me an insurance on a vtr ?

[Ashleyp]

will they give me an insurance on a vtr ?

yeah, at 17, it will be over 2k though

not worth it imo

[megabob]

first car was a fiat cinquecento, standard 900cc and that was £900 for the first year, i know what its like you want a fast car as your first but its too expensive and you'll most likely to get a few scraps and bumps, better to do it in a crappy car than a nice car and give it a few years

[Ashleyp]

first car was a fiat cinquecento, standard 900cc and that was £900 for the first year, i know what its like you want a fast car as your first but its too expensive and you'll most likely to get a few scraps and bumps, better to do it in a crappy car than a nice car and give it a few years

someone that talks sence ;)

shame not everyone has those views lol

[saxo_shaun]

ive got a furio and it has looks of the vtr but it aint very quick but if you want it for looks then the furio is beta on insurance,
i get raped on car insurance as it is on furio and im 20 so if can find good insurance for vtr then go for it

[Andy_VT]

i didn't, all i found was 7k and 5k... thats f**king ripoff

[A7X_KK]

i didn't, all i found was 7k and 5k... thats f**king ripoff



If you parents drive and they have no yrs no claim and u go on their insurance it wil be alot cheaper.But its better rlly to build on your own.Im goin with my mum as an additional driver with a few yrs no claim and it came down loads,i got a quote sumithing like £500 with more than.And im 18 btw.Thats for a VTR.Only thing is the acces its alot if you crash it something like £550 lol.

[Saxo_Sweety]

first car was a fiat cinquecento, standard 900cc and that was £900 for the first year, i know what its like you want a fast car as your first but its too expensive and you'll most likely to get a few scraps and bumps, better to do it in a crappy car than a nice car and give it a few years

Definately good advice.

[Andy_VT]

i found another website (moneysupermarket.com) and they gave me the cheapest thing, with 550 deposit, and 230 pounds a month...

[Andy_VT]

For the furio (http://pistonheads.com/sales/597253.htm) was 2.7k with 220 a month for 10 months
And for the VTR (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/CITROEN+SAXO/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-147-191-240-4294966781-4294967130/advert.action?R=200836318271061&distance=82&postcode=ss08ab&channel=CARS&make=CITROEN&model=SAXO&min_pr=&max_pr=2000&max_mileage= ) is is 3k with 250 for 10 months

[Steady_Eddy]

Hey Mate
Welcome to Sax-p

comparison website are never good!
go to the insurance company your self, it will be a lot cheaper!

Get a little 1.1 for a bit then upgrade to something bigger when u get bored!
at lest then you got some experience behind you in a small engine car!

[Andy_VT]

good idea, but, if i buy a car, im gonna stay with that car for a year or two... maybe more. i was gonna work on summer 2009, get some money for a car, then ill ask my parent to help me with the insurance. Im not saying that not a good idea, but i don't have the money i need to buy a car, then change it with another one...

[sax13]

u have got quite a while to think about it tho, jus u dont wanna crash a nice car
i started with a 1.1 kept it for bout 3 months then got my vtr
was under mums insurance and my quote was 500 quid and im only 18
is better to start at the bottom tho cos 230 quid a month is alot . i had to change all my insurance cos of the modiifications (was gettin earache from my mum bout it) now it costs me 173 quid a month :( and that is lots of money

[Andy_VT]

what company do you know who does cheap insurance ?

[sax13]

erm if its completey standard not lower absolutly nuffin then go for co-op there good but dont do wat i did mod it then dont tell em cos u gotta pay out for everythin if u crash cos its not insured they dont do modified insurance tho but im with adrain flux now so try those 1st jus to get an idea

[Andy_VT]

http://pistonheads.com/sales/597253.htm
have a look, also, how can i make the car insurance cheaper ?

[Steady_Eddy]

http://pistonheads.com/sales/597253.htm
have a look, also, how can i make the car insurance cheaper ?

Add your parents to the policy as named drivers!
store it in a garage
Cat 1 or 2 alarm
tracker

[sax13]

i would have to say dont lower it just yet ! thats normally a killer well was for me . try adrian flux and state the alloys , tints the exhaust take off the rear lights try sum others but lexus 1's and that should be it i think xxx

[sax13]

it has and alarm already fitted and mine works fine so that shouldnt be a problem really

[Steady_Eddy]

also you can use moped No Claims Bonus with certain company's so think about getting insured for about £350 a year on a moped and it will help a lot in the future!

i have already got 2 years no claims and i only just turnt 18 lol lowers my insurance by a good £600

[sax13]

also i wouldnt add ur parents to it cos if u crash it their no claims is gone and dont think they would be too happy about it x

[Ashleyp]

also i wouldnt add ur parents to it cos if u crash it their no claims is gone and dont think they would be too happy about it x

their only named drivers

they would lose nothing

seriously airways92, dont even think about your car now.. your 15 got agessss, and your views will change so much in the next year

and youll realise whats a good buy and whats not, no point worrying about it now, just save up as much cash as possible and when your 17, then decide on what car to get

[Steady_Eddy]

also i wouldnt add ur parents to it cos if u crash it their no claims is gone and dont think they would be too happy about it x

they are just named drivers! so it doesn't affect them if you crash, its still your policy with them on it.

just add them on as named drivers without using there no claims bonus and it will still lower it

try it with elephant.co.uk

[Adz]

Tbh i would go for the furio, nice little car, not to slow but not to fast, cheap little run around, and its the best on the links you have put up as all have them have wayyyy to much miles on,

And one says "limited Edition" haha yea right

[sax13]

jus readin back thru this i obv cant read properly lol i thort u sed that put it on ur parents and u be a named driver ooops sorry people x

[Andy_VT]

anyways, before i buy a car, im gonna test drive it first, if the driver doesn't let me, im not gonna buy it. ill try to get it lowered on the price too :D

[Andy_VT]

ill probably get one of you guys with me, cuz you know alot about saxo's :D

[trcygrdn]

Start small and work up IMO. I started in a 1.0 metro and paid over £500 for that! As I accrued no claims bonuses I improved on my car. Even now though at twenty.....:err: eh hem...something....with max no claims I'm paying >£700 insurance on my VTS....worth it though!! Considered a pass plus/advanced driving course. Some insurers give you discount if you do that....? ;)
xx

[Master_VTR]

You know what get a VTS and go on mummy and dadies insurance that what all my mates have dun nun have them have ever crashed and the got power they can afford cos your insurance will be cheap cos you on parent insurance but you will just have to fork out loads on................................................ .PETROL lol


Master_VTR

[Andy_VT]

really god advice, will they make me a discount if i make an insurance from my dads ? or how does this work ?

[Master_VTR]

erm well you dad has to put you on his insurance as a named driver ad if he is with direct line that even better cos they are the only company that will let you build up your no claims bonus whilst being a named driver on someone else insurance


Master_VTR

[Andy_VT]

direct line has the hceapest insurance so far..

[stevo67]

Trust me as a 1st car get a cheap run around small engine if you crash it(you will) not to much lost.Don`t make the mistake I made taking out a 5k loan struggling to pay it back & having a major smash in my 1st year(took a bend too fast & ploughed straight into a drystone wall)yes it hurt:fcuk::wall::wall:


Steve.

[Andy_VT]

ouch, im not crazy after speed, just want a good nice car (don't like the west coast though..) my dad is gonna pay for the car, ill have to pay for the insurance.. and driving lessons

[Ashleyp]

You know what get a VTS and go on mummy and dadies insurance that what all my mates have dun nun have them have ever crashed and the got power they can afford cos your insurance will be cheap cos you on parent insurance but you will just have to fork out loads on................................................ .PETROL lol


Master_VTR

thats great advice

shame its illegal!

[Andy_VT]

they're gonna change the law anyways... is gonna be from 18. Your gonna need to be 18 to do lessons and 18 to drive. I think that kinda BS

[JimoVTR]

didnt get my VTR till i was 19.

Had 1.1's and 1.2's till then

stick to lower cc's for a couple of years for the daftey of yourself, others and your wallet

[Killer]

1.1i or summat low engined that looks smart... for insurance and least likely 2 wrap it round a lamp post

[Andy_VT]

im gonna save up money, prices are gonna go down, my money saving are gonna go up :D

[Ashleyp]

they're gonna change the law anyways... is gonna be from 18. Your gonna need to be 18 to do lessons and 18 to drive. I think that kinda BS

that rumors been floating around for years.. nothings been done

latest rumor is that people have to stick with a 1.2 or smaller engine untill youve had at least 1 year exp.. thats a good idea

[brosnan]

get a little standard furio or westcoast standard and you got more chance of getting a engine not been ragged etc n cheaper on ins. 1.4

[Andy_VT]

my dad told me his gonna buy me the car, but ill have to pay for the insurance. YAY !!

[Andy_VT]

can you put an airfilter after you put a cda airbox ?

[Ashleyp]

can you put an airfilter after you put a cda airbox ?

the bmc CDA is an induction kit (air filter)

[Andy_VT]

i see...

[Tom_latchford]

will they insure you on a vtr??

[Andy_VT]

yeah, but is costing too much, they don't ensure me on a vts though

[Andy_VT]

double post, i have to pay 2.3k for a 1.4 furio from 2000. my dad is gonna buy the car, ill have to pay the insurance

[Andy_VT]

http://pistonheads.com/sales/597253.htm

[Metal_Face]

i got my first car about 3 months ago now when i was 22, its a 2002 saxo vtr.......i payed £2200 for the car and £1450 fully comp insurance. if i was 17 id go for a 1.1 without a doubt unless i was earning a fair bit!

[Andy_VT]

i got one more year till i get a car, driving license, im not even 16 yet. i got time to save money... cars will change, prices will change.