Beware of Vts-yes

[Mattt-VTR]

If anyone is intending to buy of vts-yes then don't!!

I sent him money for a sat nav, which he has promised week after week to send! I contacted him and his partner, and now they are claiming they have never heard of me, and that i am trying to scam them! Even though i sent money to the same e-mail address as i sent the message to and also got one back from them claiming i don't know them!!

Worste thing yet is they have set up a website about knive crime, and also a paypal donation option, this is also a scam to get money!

[Prickle]

these people are getting more common on sax-p, curse them

[Mattt-VTR]

Well i trusted him as he was a 'premium member' and that i could trust him! Yeah right fucking bullshit! He has also had money of calyx, and someone else too!

[Prickle]

how much did you give him ?

[Sammy-Boy]

Good job you set this thread up warning people

[Mattt-VTR]

I aint being an ASW, just warning people off him.

£80, i know it ain't a lot, but its the principle and the fact he has set up a website saying it is a charity, and asking for donations! Fuck

[Sophia_Bush]

what his name? real name?

[Ryan]

premium doesnt mean they are not a scammer.

It does however mean admin have more information for when situations like this happen.

[MJRallying]

He wanted me to swap a car with him i knew he was dodgy so didnt

[Prickle]

how much trouble could he/she get in ?

[Sammy-Boy]

They can ban him but he can just set up another account in a different name

[Mattt-VTR]

what his name? real name?

I ain't too sure because i sent the money to his e-mail address, well his saynotoknives e-mail address.

premium doesnt mean they are not a scammer.

It does however mean admin have more information for when situations like this happen.

I appreciate that ryan, and i know it doesn't mean that, but i did PM a mod and was told that he was trusted and i would get my satnav or money, but i didn't.

But cheers ryan, i am deffo going to take this to the police or SCC.

[Ryan]

how much trouble could he/she get in ?

If the member is scamming money, there is a department iirc for internet based fraud..

[Ryan]

I appreciate that ryan, and i know it doesn't mean that, but i did PM a mod and was told that he was trusted and i would get my satnav or money, but i didn't.

But cheers ryan, i am deffo going to take this to the police or SCC.

pm me the email you have paid on.

I am not allowed to give out details however i can cross refrence it/pass it on to admin to see if it is the same as given for premium for example.

[Payney]

Info for some of you.


His names: Ronny


Personal e-mail address:
ronny.f@live.co.uk


I also have his mobile number.


Lives in Kent

[Mattt-VTR]

Info for some of you.


His names: Ronny



Personal e-mail address:
ronny.f@live.co.uk




I also have his mobile number.


Is that for vts-yes

[Mattt-VTR]

pm me the email you have paid on.

I am not allowed to give out details however i can cross refrence it/pass it on to admin to see if it is the same as given for premium for example.

Appreciate it. I will send PM now.

[Prickle]

he's in so much trouble, jail ?

[LeeM]

plenty of people have bought from him with no problems, i thought he had a good reputation as a seller on here? maybe im thinking of a different person, or its a genuine cock up

[Payney]

Info for some of you.


His names: Ronny


Personal e-mail address:
ronny.f@live.co.uk


I also have his mobile number.


Lives in Kent


Is that for vts-yes

I've updated it, and yes that is for Vts-yes

[Prickle]

i doubt its a cock up, if he's ignoring people

[Ryan]

it has a high potential for being a crossed wire.

However its best to check situations when they arise.

people can log online and not log onto this forum.

[Payney]

I'd also like to say in his defence that i know he was meant to be on holiday around this time.

Not sure EXACTLY when or for how long but pretty sure he'd be away at the moment so..

[Mattt-VTR]

plenty of people have bought from him with no problems, i thought he had a good reputation as a seller on here? maybe im thinking of a different person, or its a genuine cock up

Nope he has fobbed of 3 people now.

[Mattt-VTR]

I'd also like to say in his defence that i know he was meant to be on holiday around this time.

Not sure EXACTLY when or for how long but pretty sure he'd be away at the moment so..

He did have a thread about this and said i would get what was owed to me, and sent from his partner, but i never received it, and i got an e-mail from the same address claiming they do not know what i am going on about.....?

[Sammy-Boy]

I'd also like to say in his defence that i know he was meant to be on holiday around this time.

Not sure EXACTLY when or for how long but pretty sure he'd be away at the moment so..

That may be the case but surely he should have let Matt know

[Mattt-VTR]

In all honesty it don't take 5 WEEKS to send a sat-nav or issue a refund.

[Ste-88]

Do a PayPal claim?

[Mattt-VTR]

Do a PayPal claim?

I did this and then 1 day after he said he would sent it out, so i cancelled the claim, what a fucking knob i am.

[Prickle]

i wouldnt of waited 5 weeks tbh, hope you sort it out

[Payney]

I did this and then 1 day after he said he would sent it out, so i cancelled the claim, what a fucking knob i am.

Start it up again ASAP.

[Ste-88]

I did this and then 1 day after he said he would sent it out, so i cancelled the claim, what a fucking knob i am.

Ah, so you can't re-open it.

Could try calling PayPal and discussing the issue with them, see if theres a possible chance to get a dispute / claim re-opened.

[smiith]

start a new paypal claim, and report his website tbh

[Prickle]

doesnt this put people off buying stuff of members ? even though some people are genuine

[Ste-88]

start a new paypal claim, and report his website tbh

Once opened, then canceled, you're not allowed to open another.

Hence advising to call PayPal and see what measures can be taken regarding re-opening a case for it.

[Mattt-VTR]

start a new paypal claim, and report his website tbh

I can't do that mate, might have to try and ring them.

[3cott]

if i was you ide be going to find him an kick the 10 bells out of him

[Ryan]

doesnt this put people off buying stuff of members ? even though some people are genuine

rather sadly conmen exist in all parts of life.

the internet makes it easyer to con.

However we are not deffinately saying this member is a conman until we have had further information on this sitauation, as acusations can be unfair long term.

[Mattt-VTR]

Once opened, then canceled, you're not allowed to open another.

Hence advising to call PayPal and see what measures can be taken regarding re-opening a case for it.

Thanks mate.

if i was you ide be going to find him an kick the 10 bells out of him

I feel like that alongside calyx, but makes me worste than him tbf.

[Mattt-VTR]

rather sadly conmen exist in all parts of life.

the internet makes it easyer to con.

However we are not deffinately saying this member is a conman until we have had further information on this sitauation, as acusations can be unfair long term.

That's a fair comment, but 5 weeks and excuse after excuse, not to mention the website, maybe im jumping the gun lol.

[Prickle]

and you might not be, its best you are sure tbh, the longer it takes he'l expect you to forget = he won if you get me

[Mattt-VTR]

Yeah i agree mymintsaxo!

Well thanks to everyone for showing support and offering advice, i appreciate it alot!

Rep for all tbh.

[Prickle]

:)....

[Mattt-VTR]

:)....

Can't rep you, i must have repped you recently.

Same goes for others too.

[Prickle]

no worries, hope you get it sorted however :)

[MAS]

man just seen this thread now dont think ur the only one he robbed me too and now isnt contacting me at all!

[Prickle]

3 members aparently !

[Mattt-VTR]

man just seen this thread now dont think ur the only one he robbed me too and now isnt contacting me at all!

Get on to mod's mate, this is a joke.

[MAS]

Get on to mod's mate, this is a joke.

just send me a pm man we will take it from there i was thinking where the f*** did he get some itraders from?

[Mattt-VTR]

just send me a pm man we will take it from there i was thinking where the f*** did he get some itraders from?

ok mate.

[darkslag72]

i've met him, he seemed ok. he wanted to buy my xsi. aint heard from him since tho lol.

[JC-Furio]

How has nobody said... "Sax-p convoy to him" yet? It's usually the 2nd or 3rd answer.

Worste thing yet is they have set up a website about knive crime, and also a paypal donation option, this is also a scam to get money!

Do you have this website?

If you do (and it is actually a scam), I imagine you can forward it on/report it to the Police. Pretty serious offence I think as well, saying it will go to a charity and keeping the donations...?

Hope you get it sorted :y:

[stu-n-shell]

i bought some springs off him and had no problems unlucky mate hope you get it sorted

[Sutch]

Did the money actually come out of your PayPal account, or straight from your credit card, through PayPal to him?

There's another way to get money back!

PM me if "straight from your credit card, through PayPal to him?" applies

[OLLYVTS]

I hate hearing stuff like this,it really piss's me off that people do it.

I hope you get your money or sat-nav sorted,
Same goes to everyone that has not been sent what they have paid for.

Lets hope what goes around comes around to this bloke.

[Metal_Face]

How has nobody said... "Sax-p convoy to him" yet? It's usually the 2nd or 3rd answer.

id be well up for a sax-p convoy!! hes only across the river from me in kent................why dont people actually do this!! who is gunna scam on here if they know when they do they are gunna have 20 saxos outside their house :y:

[Mochachino]

he bought a car off me and it broke, not happy :(

[Saxo_Scott]

he also was after a car from me think i have some sort of contact numbers

[Mochachino]

he also was after a car from me think i have some sort of contact numbers

i have two contact numbers for him

[Saxo_Scott]

Ok Just Saying :y:

[Mochachino]

Ok Just Saying :y:

same here lol, just in case it turns out he has 6 contacts lol. One of them always goes through to answer phone where it says hes lost his phone, n to email him. then he rings u back on another number...

[Mr_X]

ah, thats the same guy who was selling fake/pirate xbox 360 games, but he was trying to sell them as originals.

irrc, he had a dodgy telephone too.

[Steveo-vts]

i was guna buy a car off him but it was a total dog, he recently organised a meet

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169955

[furiomike]

really weird to be attending and organising meets with people you have intentions of scamming.

i vote for beating him shitless.

[bluearmy]

Probably just needs a slap, to jog his memory

[darrensvtr]

did you pay via paypal?is there nothing they can do?has he been banned on here yet?should all got have a meet where hes from.

[Mochachino]

really weird to be attending and organising meets with people you have intentions of scamming.

i vote for beating him shitless.

thats what hed want poeple to think if he was scamming
makes u sound more normal and er unscamming

[rey]

he may have suggested the meet, but he didnt show...

[furiomike]

thats what hed want poeple to think if he was scamming
makes u sound more normal and er unscamming
well yeah there's that to it, but its kind of giving away your identity a bit. but if he didn't show then fair enough.

[Clouds_mate]

The website isnt a scam. Well it wasnt ment to be. What he was going to do with the money is legit. You cant say it wasnt without proof and you have 0 of that. On the other hand im not sticking up for him as he owes me alot more then £80.

Im taking him to small claims court.

[Clouds_mate]

You think 5 weeks is bad? try 12 weeks. Ive kept my silence in all this for some time now but ive had enough of it all now.

[Mr_X]

its a real shame when this happens, some people have no decency.
its going to tho

[sharpy24]

can you not all take action as 1 i.e as a group against him? or is that not possible?

[Prickle]

You think 5 weeks is bad? try 12 weeks. Ive kept my silence in all this for some time now but ive had enough of it all now.

12 weeks christ sake, id hate to be him tbh, well it is his own fault he shouldnt be a nonse

[Mattt-VTR]

You think 5 weeks is bad? try 12 weeks. Ive kept my silence in all this for some time now but ive had enough of it all now.

Yeah that's bad, just think making a thread will warn people of him, and as for him organising meets and him attending is like having a death threat!

Even if i did win the dispute thru pay-pal he has no money in his bank account to do the re-fund, as this has happened to another member of here, so it is pointless.

[MarkyG]

Yeah that's bad, just think making a thread will warn people of him, and as for him organising meets and him attending is like having a death threat!

Even if i did win the dispute thru pay-pal he has no money in his bank account to do the re-fund, as this has happened to another member of here, so it is pointless.

that doesnt matter, i have had it done to me, there PayPal account itself will go overdrawn, and then PayPal will start asking for the money that is owed on the account, ending up not paying will result in them getting the debt collectors in. Has happened to me selling stuff on the 'bay and people paying, then retracting the money after it has gone into my bank account, therefore leaving my PayPal account itself overdrawn.

[Mattt-VTR]

that doesnt matter, i have had it done to me, there PayPal account itself will go overdrawn, and then PayPal will start asking for the money that is owed on the account, ending up not paying will result in them getting the debt collectors in. Has happened to me selling stuff on the 'bay and people paying, then retracting the money after it has gone into my bank account, therefore leaving my PayPal account itself overdrawn.

Well i was stupid to open a dispute then close it as he said he would send it, now i can not re-open it, so i can't go thru paypal even though i basically begged on the phone for them to re-open it.

[Clouds_mate]

Just take him to court tbh. If he doesnt pay he will be CCJs

[Peejous]

Stab him.

Wouldn't that be ironic.

[Mattt-VTR]

Just take him to court tbh. If he doesnt pay he will be CCJs

Hope you get it sorted mate, i think i will go down the same road as you.

[Mikey]

ive been scammed. its a shite feeling!!!

[Robb]

Its funny how he made that thread on here about how cuntish that guy was for ripping him off all that money. Then he goes and does it himself....

[Peejous]

Its funny how he made that thread on here about how cuntish that guy was for ripping him off all that money. Then he goes and does it himself....

I thought that as well, but couldn't remember if that was him or not. Thanks for clearing that up.

[HayleyVts]

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=792720749

[Mattt-VTR]

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=792720749

Yeah i know, i ain't got facebook though, might make one though!

[HayleyVts]

its sounds sad bu every one does have it lol i only go on there to see old class mates etc

[Dan-Subtle]

he lives in rochester if thats any help, think i may have a number somewhere.

[Mattt-VTR]

its sounds sad bu every one does have it lol i only go on there to see old class mates etc

I did have it but with the change and stuff it has got shit IMO.

[bullit]

Its funny how he made that thread on here about how cuntish that guy was for ripping him off all that money. Then he goes and does it himself....

your joking, remember the thread aswell

[Jimmy-Boy]

most people like that know what there doing i.e will sell loads of (cheapish)items get positive feedback then move on to bigger things and never deliver...

i personally will try and do as little trading with out knowing the person and also coming to collect items with out paying :y:

[titchster]

same here lol, just in case it turns out he has 6 contacts lol. One of them always goes through to answer phone where it says hes lost his phone, n to email him. then he rings u back on another number...

I find this bit strange tbh, his answer phone message says he's lost it. So he recorded the message saying he lost it, then lost it after. :S

[Ste-88]

Any updates on this issue?

[matt_vtr_15]

Any updates on this issue?

mattt-vtr is out on bail for attempted murder.....

[Mattt-VTR]

mattt-vtr is out on bail for attempted murder.....

Lmao you hoe!!

Nah i still ain't heard anything doubt i will either.

[Ste-88]

No one live in south london who can pay him a visit? lols.

[rey]

he lives 10-15 minutes up the road from me..

fook knows where in rochester tho

[Japman]

find him rey

[vtsflying]

send the boys round !

[vtsflying]

come on gav well sort them out the halfords way lol

[Japman]

send the heavys around

[sharpy24]

good luck, im still having issues, despite mk2slag contacting me through 2 members on here ive still had nothing i have absoloutely no hope now, however i have his address and despite being at the top of scotland i have family in the highlands so next time im up there......

[Mr_X]

with all these scaming bastards, why dont you guys use debt collectors?