If i get banned??

[MJRallying]

If this happens what do you think is best to do???

Sell rally car and buy a kart and start racing that properly or.......

Keep rally car and wait for the year ban then retake test and start rallying then??

Im unsure as it would piss me off to leave rally car doing nothing for a year when i could be kart racing!!

Also i would wait a while and retake my test well after ban is up and probs get an rs125 on just a cbt for getting around.

I fucked up tbh and hope i dont get banned but will make sure i enjoy my life as much when i am banned!!! :hug:

[JimoVTR]

Keep the rally car tbh.

[SamW]

Can you still do your cbt when yoru banned :S

Or am i just being a tard and not understanding things

[jaybiss]

sell the car

[Marcos]

why will you get banned? im missing part of story

[djrem]

sell the car
start karting.

[MJRallying]

why will you get banned? im missing part of story

Cba to go through it all again!!

I will probs sell the car ahh man i dunno sooo undecided

[djrem]

is there a thread where you explained why you were banend?

[MJRallying]

Im not deffo getting banned looking at the case i dont think i will be but just looking into all possible scenarios so im prepared, and yes there is.

[Arr0nUK]

If i was you i would sell up and start a new project. After a year and some hard work your have something to look forword to when driving again.

Why you think your going to get banned?

I was banned for 12 months, have 7 months left. woop woop :)

[Marcos]

is it the thread with the hire car?? as doubt youd get banned for that tbh thats why i asked

[MJRallying]

If i was you i would sell up and start a new project. After a year and some hard work your have something to look forword to when driving again.

Why you think your going to get banned?

I was banned for 12 months, have 7 months left. woop woop :)

Its not about projects mate, its a rally car only reason for selling would be no use for it.

[bullit]

you play in a brass band?

[MJRallying]

is it the thread with the hire car?? as doubt youd get banned for that tbh thats why i asked

Exactly mate i doubt i will we have so many loopholes we have found but im just looking at both sides.

Yes thats the baby

[djrem]

You're getting banned.

From previous threads:

"Dangerous Driving in a Courtesy Car"
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174507


Case moved from Magistrates to Crown Court
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176989

If you are banned.
I dont think racing is the best hobby to be undertaking.

You have/had the opportunity to keep it all on the track but taking it on the road is just ghey.

Thats my opinion.
All im going by is the statements said in the other two threads.

He only ripped his handbrake up a few times in weston in a hire car lol but the idiot didnt see the old bill behind him lmao! Tbh marky they can't do alot wheres the proof??


The evidence will be from the police officiers from the car behind

[vtrjay]

Can you still do your cbt when yoru banned :S

Or am i just being a tard and not understanding things

LOL sam i think he means when he gets provisional license back while he is doing his test for car etc as u get cbt in a day! :)

good luck with this mark!

[MJRallying]

you play in a brass band?

Im lost lol

[MJRallying]

You're getting banned.

From previous threads:

"Dangerous Driving in a Courtesy Car"
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174507


Case moved from Magistrates to Crown Court
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176989

If you are banned.
I dont think racing is the best hobby to be undertaking.

You have/had the opportunity to keep it all on the track but taking it on the road is just ghey.

Thats my opinion.
All im going by is the statements said in the other two threads.


Rem it wasnt taking racing on the road it was a simple 2 min piss around and i was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Just because i messed about doesnt mean im not safe to undergo racing lol

[Mieran]

Sell the car.

Insurance will probably be too high after you get your licence back (if you get banned).

[Marcos]

i wouldnt really worry tbh mate look at goldsax flipped his car got 5 points and hefty fine doubt youl get banned 3 points max i would say

[vtrjay]

get a kart u will have great fun!

[MJRallying]

Also rem his evidence means nothing to the fact it was dark and he was 3 cars behind he has no video evidence or nothing. But i have witnesses.

He cant prove that the handbrake wasnt dodgy and not releasing correctly.

[MJRallying]

Sell the car.

Insurance will probably be too high after you get your licence back (if you get banned).

Its a rally car so road insurance isnt required

i wouldnt really worry tbh mate look at goldsax flipped his car got 5 points and hefty fine doubt youl get banned 3 points max i would say

Exactly.....i will probs get a section 59 if that just gotta plan both sides out.

[MJRallying]

get a kart u will have great fun!

Used to race um so i know i will love it :)

[Marcos]

when is the court date i wouldnt be worried though

[MJRallying]

Basically im going to my first hearing on the 15th oct but im pleading not guilty and electing trial at crown court.

[Marcos]

ok then just quote what david llewelyns son said and you might get lucky if they dont say who is he

[MJRallying]

ok then just quote what david llewelyns son said and you might get lucky if they dont say who is he

Haha im sure they wont take that into any consideration lol

[djrem]

Also rem his evidence means nothing to the fact it was dark and he was 3 cars behind he has no video evidence or nothing. But i have witnesses.

He cant prove that the handbrake wasnt dodgy and not releasing correctly.

Then a well presented case will mean you get nothing
Best case you can sue for wasting your time and stress

[Ashleyp]

do you need a license to race? as its not on public roads etc?

if not, continue rally, just get someone to trailer your car there

[MJRallying]

Then a well presented case will mean you get nothing
Best case you can sue for wasting your time and stress

Exactly this is what im thinking i will get away scott free but im just looking at both poss sides now so im ready if i do get banned, if i dont then happy days next years rallying will be awesome.

[MJRallying]

do you need a license to race? as its not on public roads etc?

if not, continue rally, just get someone to trailer your car there

It will always get trailored to events mate and yes you need a licence unfortunately or this thread wouldnt exist, i dont care about losing my road licence as im not mad about road cars anymore with increasing speed cameras etc.

Been there done all that had like 30 fast road cars but my concern is being stopped from rallying.

[Marcos]

say you need licence for career, like people get away with speeding for the job

[vtrjay]

You will just have too see what happens on the day tbh rather than worry now! anything can happen on the day, u get the nicer judges and the bastards who fuckin hate u so just see what they say and hope for best! :)

[MJRallying]

You will just have too see what happens on the day tbh rather than worry now! anything can happen on the day, u get the nicer judges and the bastards who fuckin hate u so just see what they say and hope for best! :)

True will just wait until the day see what happens but by me electing crown court that in itself may get the case dismissed by cps if they have insufficent evidence, plus it could take 12 months to goto crown.

[Foggy]

Its a rally car so road insurance isnt required


Depends on what you are doing.....

Single venue no, but on multi venue events you need road traffic insurace, generally covered by the event on a premium, or through Comp Car Insurance or whoever.

Also on one of the Cotswold Tarmac rounds a few years ago, you had to drive down the main road to another venue for scrutineering..

General rule of thumb on single venue is, MOT but no tax/insurance required...

Take it dad will be towing it there?

Also unsure of if having no/banned license, you will be able to take your BARS test? Needs looking into matey... Sorry to pee on your BBQ

[Ocego_VTR]

I hope you dont get banned mark would be ashame if you have potential.

If you do i would sell the rally car and build your own with the money your saving from motoring.

[Foggy]

Mark, just found this on the MSA website......

Minimum Requirements

* The Driver must be at least 17 years old and must hold a valid Road Traffic Driving Licence. Before you can apply for your first Stage Rally Driver Licence.

But also found this.....

The Stage Rally National B Licence may be issued, without other qualification, to any of the following:

1. Anyone who held a Non-Race National B Competition Licence prior to 31st December 2001.

2. Anyone who held any MSA Competition Licence which was valid for driving in Stage Rallies prior to 31st December 2001. This category comprises all Race, Kart, Speed, Drag and Rally Licences (each of which has always been valid as a Non-Race National B). Evidence of having driven on a Stage Rally is not required.


Did you used to do karting? Did you have a license?

May be a way around the BARS test.....

[vtrjay]

Just asking mate as i herd this somewere but if you say not guilty and take it too court if you get found guilty do you get worse than you would if u just pleaded guilty?

[smiith]

Also rem his evidence means nothing to the fact it was dark and he was 3 cars behind he has no video evidence or nothing. But i have witnesses.

He cant prove that the handbrake wasnt dodgy and not releasing correctly.

i was going the oposite direction to police, she said i was speeding, me and 3 mates said i wasnt... it was at 2AM, i got 5 points and 300 quid fine.

Your word means nothing against theres, the courts look at it as, the police have no reason to lie, you do

[MJRallying]

Depends on what you are doing.....

Single venue no, but on multi venue events you need road traffic insurace, generally covered by the event on a premium, or through Comp Car Insurance or whoever.

Also on one of the Cotswold Tarmac rounds a few years ago, you had to drive down the main road to another venue for scrutineering..

General rule of thumb on single venue is, MOT but no tax/insurance required...

Take it dad will be towing it there?

Also unsure of if having no/banned license, you will be able to take your BARS test? Needs looking into matey... Sorry to pee on your BBQ

I will just hold all of it back for a year dude, take the bars test after the year ban if i get it, just do sprints and hillclimbs throughout year as you just need a non race nat b licence which doesnt require a road licence.

Cheers for help ie. rally licence i was karting in around 2004 do wont count.

i was going the oposite direction to police, she said i was speeding, me and 3 mates said i wasnt... it was at 2AM, i got 5 points and 300 quid fine.

Your word means nothing against theres, the courts look at it as, the police have no reason to lie, you do


I have spoke to one of the best driving barristors there are in uk and he charges mad money like £1500-2k an hour, he said they need evidence, which any mug knows that.

Also dont know why you didnt go to court and say prove my speed as ive never heard such a weak case like that before, why is there speed camera etc??? if it was just there word why dont they stand on the side of the road and say yep he is speeding so is he etc.......

Evidence video or photographic is required or if they were following you they would need to use there speedo to average speed check you.

[bullit]

i think you need banning from the site imo

[betty02]

i think you need banning from the site imo

Roflycopter :clapping:

[MJRallying]

i think you need banning from the site imo

True i reckon your probs rite there dude nearly deserves pos rep :)

[gazwhittle]

do you have to have a drivers license to rally ? and karting would be good mate but go into shift karts !

[Marcos]

Just asking mate as i herd this somewere but if you say not guilty and take it too court if you get found guilty do you get worse than you would if u just pleaded guilty?

yeah its bigger punishment

[MJRallying]

Shift karts is a crap class used to race tkm so no alot about it all, most tracks wont allow gearbox karts.

Yes you need a drivers licence to rally but i doubt i will even get anything at all from this but just thinking both sides.

Anyway this thread may aswell be locked now tbh.....foggy has hit the nails on the head soo.....

[MJRallying]

yeah its bigger punishment

If your found guilty this is the point.

When the case goes back to cps for them to prep it for crown court i bet they back out as they no im going to fight it plus it will cost them around 10k lol

They just like peeps to go there and give them an easy run and plead guilty

[bullit]

True i reckon your probs rite there dude nearly deserves pos rep :)

i cant imagine that was you neg repping me saying die ?

[MJRallying]

I havent repped you at all, if i did it would only be pos as i love you xxx

[bullit]

ill let you off mark as your a great friend

anyone? marcos, gaz?

[MJRallying]

pm a mod bullit you will know then!!

[Marcos]

nope wasnt me i only repped mark recently and cant remember if it was this thread or mine, iv only left neg rep once in my life :D

[JC-Furio]

Sorry Bullit, thought you were Matt.

Fucking Calrocks.

x

[Yates]

i dont want mark to get banned, i like mark, that kid brother of his tho, he should be banned

[MJRallying]

i dont want mark to get banned, i like mark, that kid brother of his tho, he should be banned

Haha i can feel sarcasm going on here yatesy.
:p

[Yates]

nah man wouldnt want to see anyone whose so into driving banned, id be lost without a license, fair enough the knobs about but enthusiasts man, that rocks, but really you should buy a saxo and il probs talk to you more

[MJRallying]

nah man wouldnt want to see anyone whose so into driving banned, id be lost without a license, fair enough the knobs about but enthusiasts man, that rocks, but really you should buy a saxo and il probs talk to you more

Haha my 205 is far more superior then any saxo will be :P

Anyway as i said im not to fussed about my licence for the road tbh mate as if i lost it i would just get a job not requiring a licence then just get mario to give me a lift. Its the whole not being able to do rallying :(

[Yates]

superior you say, wont be fuckin superior when its got no driver now will it!

oh and i spoke to David Llewelyns son, he said he was lying to you just to shut you up, also added your a cunt

[MJRallying]

superior you say, wont be fuckin superior when its got no driver now will it!

oh and i spoke to David Llewelyns son, he said he was lying to you just to shut you up, also added your a cunt

I will have to do hillclimbs so it will still be superior :P

HAHA i dont think his dad would let him swear tbh......lol

[Yates]

how old is his son?

[MJRallying]

not sure tbh i dont mean it cuz of age just the fact there sooo well spoken well to do peeps i dont think his dad would be impressed

[Yates]

not sure tbh i dont mean it cuz of age just the fact there sooo well spoken well to do peeps i dont think his dad would be impressed

i actually think he was 9, and your quoting a 9 year old in your sig. paedofile, gona call you garry from now on

[MJRallying]

Haha Garry FTW