mk1 vtr or mk2 vtr?

[w_jd_w]

is there any difference in power between the different mark saxos? smileys/smiley17.gif

[jaybiss]

there was a 98 bhp version which is from 2000 i think but someone will orrect me if im wrong smileys/smiley17.gif

edit: welcome to the site

[welshy2k]

hey an welcome to sax-p

basically nothing apart from a facelift

[w_jd_w]

oh rite.i heard that a vtr has more break horsepower than a vts is that true?

[welshy2k]

its the other way about the VTS is more powerfull than the VTR

[Dan]

vtr 90 bhp
vts 120 bhp

there are claims that the mk2 vtr had 98 bhp but it has never been proved.

so basically what welshey said just a facelift.

[grantsmith1985]

Parkers say:
Mk1 VTR 90 BHP
Mk2 VTR 100BHP
But from my experience they are about the same standard so I assume the Mk2 is 90bhp.

[DevilDamo]

if the cat. is under the car, then you have the 90bhp model.

if the cat. is in the manifold, then you have the 98bhp model.

somebody did prove he had the 98bhp vtr. his name was 'Psycho' and he posted the results of his rolling road on 5th january 2004 at 11:26am smileys/smiley17.gif

and the vts has always had 120bhp.

[S9_DAN]

It is just a facelift, as the mk2 vtr is ment to have 98bhp but mk1's are just as fast if not faster in my oppinion.

[DevilDamo]

if its ONLY a facelift, then why does the 'citroen saxo - technical specification' brochure confirm that the vtr has 100bhp. ok, they've rounded it up, but they wouldn't have rounded it up by 10bhp.

[AARON1100]

is having the cat in the manifold a 'good' or 'bad' thing? smileys/smiley5.gif

[saxx]

lets all rolling road our cars!

[Chris]

lets all rolling road our cars!

OK Then!!! smileys/smiley2.gif

Chris smileys/happy.gif

[saxx]

but unfortunatly only saxos chris

[Chris]

Damn it!

[Dan]

did anyone rolling road a mk1 vtr too? i dont think there is anything in it to be honest.

[WalzVTR]

standard mk2 vtr is faster than a mk1 vtr, ive seen it in a race. I know drivers matter but in a straight line the mk2 was pulling all the time

[Yates]

ive had a 2000 model of the vtr and a 2001 and the 2001 seems to be quicker. i got told that the mk 1 vtr is 90, the 2000 models of the mk2 were 90 and 20001 + are 98

[Tombo]

well i dont know why but i have the silver top motor in my mk1 an have been told by shitroen that it is the 98bhp engine as it is 31st december 1999, so she a late model.

tombo

[darrensvtr]

damos definatly right.mk2 is 98bhp.my mates had both and he said the 98bhp models is quicker.ive got a vtr mk2 2001 model and tho its had some engine mods ive beat a few mk1 90 bhp models off lights and that.

[DevilDamo]

im sure oz has the 90bhp model. me and him had a very little race last year up at maxpower, birmingham. ok i was that little bit ahead, but there is nothing much in it at all.

[Sean]

black top vtr 97-98 90bhp

silver top vtr 98-00 90bhp

silver top vtr 00- end of production 98bhp

or silver top cat in downpipe = 98bhp

[saxx]

so whats mine?

is that 00-X (Reg) or end of making?

[Sean]

sorry, 00- end of production. (edited)

[saxx]

cool thanks! im less confused now lol

[SteVTR]

never really seen much differnce between a 98bhp n a 90bhp sax my old black top used to sit with the 98bhp models allday long

isnt like 8bhp is going to make that much of a differnce is it?

[Dan]

should make a slight difference, would actually like to see a race of the two.

[SteVTR]

should make a slight difference, would actually like to see a race of the two.

had a few races with mk2s more fun thesedays when you get a cocky mk2 driver who thinks their 98bhp car can trash my mk1 good fun having a vts lump in a vtr shell keeps me amused smileys/smiley4.gif

[Sean]

especially when you keep the vtr badges on eh dan smileys/smiley2.gif ? you still got the vtr badges on yours Steve?

[Dan]

yeah too right its great when you go past them with a big grin on your face smileys/smiley4.gif

[SteVTR]

i had them on when i 1st got the engine put in but when it went in for the re-spray it got it all colour coded n decided to finish debaging it by taking the vtr badges off the doors theres been a few peoples faces that have been a picture when the vtr badges were still on

[Dan]

mine still needs setting up properly though, fuelling etc.

[SteVTR]

mine still needs setting up properly though, fuelling etc.

mines running ok or it should be once i get this coilpack going to get it remapped once i get my next few engine mods done

[Dan]

yours was done at a proper garage wasnt it? mine was done in my garage lol

need the fuel return line sorting out, as it uses alot of fuel.

[SteVTR]

yeah it was dan

how long it take you to do the conversion?

[Sean]

think it took him 2 8hour days to complete it.
Dan- you need a dastek mate. going to pay them a visit soon myself, the dastek HQ is a 20minute drive from me.

[starkie]

What did u 2 think of the jump from VTR to VTS. do you reccomend the vts other the vtr??

[SteVTR]

What did u 2 think of the jump from VTR to VTS. do you reccomend the vts other the vtr??



best thing i ever did mate if you take your time n find a good engine n do a good job fitting it you'll have a awesome little car smileys/smiley20.gif

[darrensvtr]

definatly need a unichip or some kind of re-map on mine,needs more fuel,seems bit sluggish on some days.

[Dan]

What did u 2 think of the jump from VTR to VTS. do you reccomend the vts other the vtr??



best thing i ever did mate if you take your time n find a good engine n do a good job fitting it you'll have a awesome little car smileys/smiley20.gif

yeah really is a great, best mod ive done.

took me and a mate two days 8 hours or so on each day. was great fun helping out.

dastek will be in the future. smileys/smiley2.gif