Lets Talk Gaming PC's

[MJRallying]

Right i have the daddy of machines :P Well not the ultimate but VERY good

I love racing games, simulations more so now i have Race 07 are there any better out there?? Its awesome but wanna change??

Anyone recommend any other decents games?

What spec you all running? For gaming wise?

[Stickyjam]

first person shooter wise... counterstrike(source) tbh lol only gaming i really play!

i got me a watercooled e6600@3.3ghz with 7800gtx... it was upgrade hardware or new car... im picking up my vtr on monday :D lol so no upgrade...

[MJRallying]

Sounds cool im using this system:

http://www.packardbell.co.uk/products/desktops/ipower/Ipower-X8880/productsheet-PB84109101-43.html

Seems very good indeed Cost me £1500 not very long ago

[Ste-88]

I play Race 07 on PC ... it's coming out on Xbox 360 soon ;)

[Eskimo]

I play CSS on PC :P add my steam - gayoul@hotmail.com

[MJRallying]

I play Race 07 on PC ... it's coming out on Xbox 360 soon ;)

Its called race pro on xbox i believe and it wont be the exact same i dont think!!

I just cant get into pc gaming like i can xbox live!!

My computer is being wasted haha

[Eskimo]

Mark whats your Live Name? add me! x M O N S 7 3 R

[MJRallying]

Live name is Team8vRacing i only play forza 2 im in top 200 trueskill rank :P

[Eskimo]

Ahh right i hate Forza :P too hard!! im sik at Gears though :P

[MJRallying]

Ahh right i hate Forza :P too hard!! im sik at Gears though :P

Forza aint hard if your into cars and know what your doing :P

[Stickyjam]

Sounds cool im using this system:

http://www.packardbell.co.uk/products/desktops/ipower/Ipower-X8880/productsheet-PB84109101-43.html

Seems very good indeed Cost me £1500 not very long ago

its got the stuff just at a hell of a premium...

build next time :P any mug can follow the instructions that come with the motherboard...

[rossj]

I have to spec up some awesome gaming pc's at college!!

[Stickyjam]

I have to spec up some awesome gaming pc's at college!!

you have a college course that includes specing pc's? :S

[rossj]

yea, ICT practicioner... do loads of stuff programming web design pc specing comes under computer systems

[Penn]

Right i have the daddy of machines :P

You really don't, it's average at best.

[Mitchell]

Logitech G25 wheel + Live for Speed.

dunno if you've played it but it basically simulates real life racing down to the very last detail.

fuel usage, tyre wear, you can even burn out the clutch if you dont use it properly lol lots of different classes of cars, you can race, drift, drag strip, the lot.

better playing it with G25 wheel tho so you can use heel-toe techniques n shaaaaaaat

http://www.lfs.net/

[Stickyjam]

yea, ICT practicioner... do loads of stuff programming web design pc specing comes under computer systems


sounds alrite... im doing computing foundation degree so i can do uni next year as i have no paper that says i can do anything computer related yet so far all the course is covering is maths and electronics nothing to do with a computer..

ah well lol

[MJRallying]

You really don't, it's average at best.

Would say its better then average tbh there isnt a game out there it doesnt run well so why would i wanna spend more lol

[betty02]

Fuck spending 1.5k on that could build it for half he price

[DarylVTR]

Sounds cool im using this system:

http://www.packardbell.co.uk/products/desktops/ipower/Ipower-X8880/productsheet-PB84109101-43.html

Seems very good indeed Cost me £1500 not very long ago

LOL you paid £1500 for that pc???????????????

I could build that for about £600.
Ram is pritty shocking and so is the integrated sound :(

Anywho.... i cant get Race07 to work on my beast, id reccommend TOCA GRID.

My pc:

AMD Phenom Quad core @ 2.7ghz
6GB of DDR800 Corsair RAM
9800GTX+ Graphics card
500GB seagate Hard drive
Creative Xtremegamer sound card
The CPU, RAM and Graphics card only cost me about £290!

[Karl]

WTB (Want to Buy)

Intel Core 2 Quad 6850? (2.83GHz),
4 GB DDR3 1600MHz,
Nvidia GeForce 260 (896MB)
2 x 160GB SATA Drives (RAID 0.)

/careface about the integrated sound, that dont bother me.

gonna set me back 1k approx ~
just need someone to buy my current tower.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.66GHz),
8 GB 667 MHz RAM,
NVidia GeForce 9600 GT,
250GB HDD.

[DarylVTR]

WTB (Want to Buy)

Intel Core 2 Quad 6850? (2.83GHz),
4 GB DDR3 1600MHz,
Nvidia GeForce 260 (896MB)
2 x 160GB SATA Drives (RAID 0.)

/careface about the integrated sound, that dont bother me.

gonna set me back 1k approx ~
just need someone to buy my current tower.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.66GHz),
8 GB 667 MHz RAM,
NVidia GeForce 9600 GT,
250GB HDD.

Why Karl??? Those arnt big changes apart from the graphics card... not sure ud notice much of a difference

[Karl]

really?

would of thought the RAM would make a huge difference?

Just in the game I play (Unreal tournament engine) I get like 7 FPS in 100v100 fights.

[DarylVTR]

The ram is quicker in terms of speed but going from 667mhz to 1066mhz i doubt ull see a MASSIVE / much improvement. By the looks of it your 9600GT is bottle necking your system.

Also i dont think the 260 is that great for the cash. I got a 9800GTX+ 512mb for £128, runs just perfect.

Ive got AMD quad core (equivilient of intel quad) , 6GB of DDR2 800mhz and 320gb seagate barracuda, no problems atall.

8GB of 677mhz is a bit overkill mate lol 6GB is even stupid but it was cheap thats why i got 6gb instead of 4.

[Penn]

Also i dont think the 260 is that great for the cash. I got a 9800GTX+ 512mb for £128, runs just perfect.

£50 more gets you a 512mb Radeon 4870.

[Karl]

its 1600MHz Daryl,
DDR3 innit. :P

and that shit isnt cheap :(

260 is nice man :O
seriously would be suprised if your rig managed 10fps in this game i play under 100v100 fights

I need a quicker machine!

[DarylVTR]

i expect thats more internet connection speed causing issues rather than hardware mate.

RAM doesnt play a huge factor in FPS and games..... its much more taxing on CPU and Graphics card / Hard drive.

[DarylVTR]

£50 more gets you a 512mb Radeon 4870.

I heard this is a very good card however i always get nvidia because their drivers are better IMO. Had a radeon once and the drivers were terrible....

I expect things have moved on since then but i still stay loyal to nvidia as they always pleasently suprise me with their cards for what i want

[Penn]

I heard this is a very good card however i always get nvidia because their drivers are better IMO. Had a radeon once and the drivers were terrible....

I expect things have moved on since then but i still stay loyal to nvidia as they always pleasently suprise me with their cards for what i want

Nvidia drivers are still a million times better. I recently upgraded from an 8800GTS 640mb to a 4870.

50% of the time i turn my PC and am greeted by an end task box for ati catalyst drivers that have crashed on startup!

[MaRiO89]

Not everybody is a full on geek and wants to build PC's from scratch..If £1500 is such a rip off nobody would buy them..

PS3 gets my vote anyways..Graphics wise will piss all over a PC..I have never seen a PC game anywhere on any PC that would match GT5 or MGS4..

[Frosty]

I got bored of building comps and went and bought an alienware just because everyone who has bought one has yet to complain about them.... Spec is

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ ( overclocked heavily )
2GB Ram
Dual NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
2 250GB Samsung Hardrives
Foxconn MotherBoard ( Some major spec mobo thats far to complicated for me )
Sound Audigy 5.1 Sound Card

[Stickyjam]

Not everybody is a full on geek and wants to build PC's from scratch..If £1500 is such a rip off nobody would buy them..

PS3 gets my vote anyways..Graphics wise will piss all over a PC..I have never seen a PC game anywhere on any PC that would match GT5 or MGS4..

crysis on full whack?


no because the general pc consumer doesnt know there getting ripped off they have a mild trust for a company like pc world that if the pc is a 1000 times more expensive than another unit its got to be alot better, in reality its about marketing... the 1000 pounds more expensive pc will have what a lil more ram, better graphics and better processer. At the price the big companies get the parts in they make bigger profits not pass it on to the consumer... You want the "best" computer with minor knowledge your gonna think that pc worlds most expensive delivers...

But then even if there putting the q6600 in as someone in else said thats not going to perform aswell as the hand picked components when building which would be better and still cheaper, pc world ram vs 8gig of pc8500... pc world mobo vs DFI x48... my examples were chosen because thats an equvilent you could of got for the value pc world give there pc's... o and we wont mention the power supplies : /


internet building companies are getting better but some are still using sub standard power supplies, bad cooling, useless cases, slow ram, cheap motherboards

it all comes as a premium for not building... and scrolling up i wrote alot but it actually took me under 5 mins i type fast :D lol

[Scott]

Not everybody is a full on geek and wants to build PC's from scratch..If £1500 is such a rip off nobody would buy them..

PS3 gets my vote anyways..Graphics wise will piss all over a PC..I have never seen a PC game anywhere on any PC that would match GT5 or MGS4..

Whoah easy man no one is having a go at your bro (i think hes your bro not sure:P) just the spec could have been had for cheaper. However I agree with you not everyone has the time or skill to build there own PC and its far easier jsut to buy it with a warranty etc...

Though your point about a PS3 being more capable than a pc is crazy man, it would cost more than your PS3 but the pc will always have the edge as it can be ever improved.

[Karl]

++ End of it all the PC is the most Elite way of playing games.
So many more keys,
precision + accuracy of a mouse.

[DarylVTR]

lol @ ps3 is better than any pc ..... not even in same legue!!!!!

[Scott]

lol @ ps3 is better than any pc ..... not even in same legue!!!!!

Not entirely true if you look at it relatively.

You buy a console and thats it, works out the box and these days are pretty fecking awesome. No upgrading or fecking about.

PC you have to sink a fair bit of cash into it to keep it at teh top end of its gaming. New games come out that require more "power". Console just keeps going.

Lodas of positives and negatives to both

[DarylVTR]

Not entirely true if you look at it relatively.

You buy a console and thats it, works out the box and these days are pretty fecking awesome. No upgrading or fecking about.

PC you have to sink a fair bit of cash into it to keep it at teh top end of its gaming. New games come out that require more "power". Console just keeps going.

Lodas of positives and negatives to both

Sorry i mean graphically once you have spent the money the are awsome, but agreed, for the casual gamer consol is the way forward.

[MarkyG]

All parts come with a warranty anyway, whether you build it yourself or buy as a complete system.

You want a real test, run Crysis on full whack and see how that goes. Darn picky that game is, doesnt even run on my machine, just keeps failing and booting me back out to Vista desktop :(

Crysis Warhead is a good one too, runs much nicer than Crysis (when Crysis itself wants to be good)

as for PS3, i own one, and would say the graphical detail on them are no way near as nice as the PC can kick out. Daryl says is true, they aren't in the same league, you cant really compare a console to a gaming PC at all. You may have to sink a fair bit of money into a PC but its worth it if youre a hardcore gamer.

But as far as building a gaming spec PC goes, the high end stuff isnt necessarily better than a slightly lower spec that has been overclocked. It all depends on what you want from a system. I mean i run:

QC Phenom 9850 @2.5
2gb 1066 Crucial Ballistix RAM
160gb hdd
500gb hdd (storage;))
XFX 8800GT XXX 512mb Graphics card
700w psu
gigabyte ma790fx-dq6 mobo

and i still cant get Crysis to run smoothly if at all IIH

All other games play fine, all set to max and nothing out of place. Older games WILL run better as they arent designed for the higher spec thats about nowadays, like HL2. Newer games demand more.

Im awaiting RA3, if my system cant handle it well its going up for sale and im building an Intel system.

[samvts]

Thermaltake Armour case
Coolermaster Real Power 1000w
Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600
Dual 8800 GTX
4GB OCZ platinum DDR3 2000Mhz
XFX 790i ultra mobo
Raid 0 VelociRaptors

Oh and if anyone is after a new graphics card i have a few going as i have been switching so much lately,

got 2 x xfx 8800gt alpha dogs and 1 evga 8800 gtx p'm me if your interested the alphas have been used for about an hour

[Karl]

samvts I want your pc.
good £1,500+ worth of spec there.

Overclocked my Q6600 to 2.7GHz today ~
ordered a new heatsink/cooler to go to 3+GHz too xD

[MarkyG]

agreed Karl

nice spec. thinking myself of getting the XFX 790i ultra mobo, was looking at it the other day, and go for a QC intel chip and overclock it, cant remember the highest CPU it takes, as im thinking of getting the high end cpu and overclocking that, maybe watercooling too.

nice spec though!

[Scott]

small question to this running over 3gb of ram, what OS>?

[HG2Tobes]

anyone else like oblivion on pc?

[Clouds_mate]

small question to this running over 3gb of ram, what OS>?

Will be X64 in either Xp or Vista i guess.

[Tupps]

Fuck sake.. Why did i buy a laptop

Seriously miss geeking on CS Source

[Scott]

Will be X64 in either Xp or Vista i guess.

Damn you thats what i was trying to find out :P

[samvts]

samvts I want your pc.
good £1,500+ worth of spec there.

Overclocked my Q6600 to 2.7GHz today ~
ordered a new heatsink/cooler to go to 3+GHz too xD

Cheers mate, total so far is around £1800 and before anyone says i could build that for £1799.99 F**K off lol, i ordered 2 8800gt alpha dogs used them for about an hour, stuck a 8800gtx in, thought....i need another one of these got one and now im thinking 2x 9800gx2 :fcuk:

anyone wanting hardly used graphics cards cheap at my expense feel free to dry bum me for them lol.

answer to a previous question....3GB ram what OS, i got vista 64bit

if anyone is thinking of overclocking their cpu with the xfx 790i mobo, do some research first as most aftermarket cpu coolers wont fit inside the mobo heat sinks

[Karl]

The game I play Clockspeed matters,
my 9600GT is perfectly adequate it seems,
I just need more speed.
ZOOOP.
would be nice to get a decent case and quality cooling system, as Ive seen 4+ GHz out of a Q6600.

[samvts]

you wont see 4+ ghz for very long lol, 3.2Ghz is about the most you will get without going over the top.

[Stickyjam]

you wont see 4+ ghz for very long lol, 3.2Ghz is about the most you will get without going over the top.

nah right cooling and people have been getting near 4... q6600's are rare to hit 4 stable but can....

my mums q6600 in my watercooled pc will do 3.6... they just knock some heat out which needs to be cooled...

e8600 anyone? 4.5gigz on air out of alot of them....

[samvts]

TOOT just ordered me 2 GTX 280 XXX editions

[Karl]

You got some fucking money!?

[samvts]

no just sold my ps3, xbox 360, 400D camera and my laptop :D

[Karl]

lol ~
so when you sending me a decent graphics card?

[samvts]

lol just sold...

evga 8800gtx

and 2 8800gt alpha dogs

sorry none left

the 280's might last a week or two

[Karl]

What you gonna replace 2 x 280s with!!?

[samvts]

summit new will be out then :P

[Penn]

Should of waited and gone for two 4870X2's in crossfire. Would shit and piss on any nvidia setup.

[Karl]

Not very viable is it considering his Mobo is Intel SLI....

[Penn]

Just buy a crossfire compatible mobo, or one that supports both.

[Stickyjam]

id never buy 2 cards at the the performance increase the second card shows atm, just not worth the money...

[samvts]

yes the core power would be great, i always prefur nvidia graphics though

[DarylVTR]

I need a new HDD for mine running out of space on my 320gb!!!

Looking to buy the Samsung F1 1TB hard drive .... these are meant to be very good.... anyone got 1?

[Stickyjam]

I need a new HDD for mine running out of space on my 320gb!!!

Looking to buy the Samsung F1 1TB hard drive .... these are meant to be very good.... anyone got 1?

nah but there basically the fastest 7200spin drive :P good choice!

[grantlowery]

Nerd-iest thread to ever be created on sax p?

[DarylVTR]

my Seagate barracuda is chugging along and only has a system score of 5.6 on vista :(

Just trying to think if its just worth getting the 750GB for £57 or the 1TB for £79.99

hmmz

[Karl]

Ive never setup RAID 0 before ever ever ever.
Can someone tell me what I'd have to do.

Obviously buy another drive.
Do both drives have to match?

Will i need to reinstall my OS?

I have a ASUS P5N-E SLI Mobo.

kkthx.

[samvts]

should have a raid utility

[JCs_VTR]

im sik at Gears though :P
x M O N S 7 3 R or aka Pillz i used to be sik havent played for a while but its easily the best game ever add me x i G N ii T E let me guess you use the sniper

ive seen your gamertag around in a few player matches i reconised it in this thread thought i would say hey :y:

[BBL]

yea, ICT practicioner... do loads of stuff programming web design pc specing comes under computer systems

i done 3 years intermediate and advanced on the it practioner course and in no form were the speccin up pc's., the most you did was 2 lessons on taking a pc apart and putting it back together lol

[Ryyy]

-Windows Vista Premium
-AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2 cpu's) 2.0GHz
-2048 Mb Ram
-Radeon x1300 GPU
-1280 x 1024 Res.
#Does the job

[Stickyjam]

Ive never setup RAID 0 before ever ever ever.
Can someone tell me what I'd have to do.

Obviously buy another drive.
Do both drives have to match?

Will i need to reinstall my OS?

I have a ASUS P5N-E SLI Mobo.

kkthx.

defiantely reinstall... youd probably need to make a driver disc... depending on age and model of mobo... matching drives is meant to be a good idea just so there identical in physicalness too... and as someone else said raid utlity


thr 1tb sammy is mena be that bit faster than the 750gb because of how the platters are done, in real life terms you probably wouldnt notice the difference...

[DarylVTR]

I just spent all weekend ripping my hair out trying to install VISTA X64 onto my new Samsung 1TB F1 HDD.....kept getting BSOD..... Found out vista has a bug and will only install if system has less than 2gb ram. Took my 4gb out and it installed fine!!! How odd

Its wizzing along nicely now thou :D

[Karl]

I fitted a Cooler Master Freezer 7 Pro at the weekend ~
Lowered the temps on my Quad by approx 15 degrees celcius on idle!


Gonna attempt for like the millionth time to O/C my processor to 3 GHz,
I need to up the vcore voltages and possibly the memory voltages too though to get it stable,
as on standard voltages my machine is unstable with anything over 2.7GHz :(

[Penn]

I fitted a Cooler Master Freezer 7 Pro at the weekend ~
Lowered the temps on my Quad by approx 15 degrees celcius on idle!


Gonna attempt for like the millionth time to O/C my processor to 3 GHz,
I need to up the vcore voltages and possibly the memory voltages too though to get it stable,
as on standard voltages my machine is unstable with anything over 2.7GHz :(

You should just be able to change the FSB to 333 with a multiplier of x9.

Voila, 3ghz without changing anything else. Overclocked my Q6600 that way (FSB was set to 272 with x9 standard) with stock cooler. 100% stable.

[MarkyG]

Hmmmall this overclocking talk is making me want to overclock my Phenom 9850. Read an article that you can get it running at 3.0ghz stable with the right cooler, cant push it higher though as of yet.

It's either that or i replace my mobo, cpu and ram and get a C2Q Intel CPU and go SLi and build a beast of a machine :)

Not sure though

[DarylVTR]

Hmmmall this overclocking talk is making me want to overclock my Phenom 9850. Read an article that you can get it running at 3.0ghz stable with the right cooler, cant push it higher though as of yet.

It's either that or i replace my mobo, cpu and ram and get a C2Q Intel CPU and go SLi and build a beast of a machine :)

Not sure though

Mine is running 2.7ghz stable with a zalman cooler.... dont want to push it much further... its quite a hot chip!

[Karl]

i tried just upping FSB to 1333 with memory unlinked and in sync,
still no joy.

2.7 GHz it is :(

[Penn]

i tried just upping FSB to 1333 with memory unlinked and in sync,
still no joy.

2.7 GHz it is :(

Go into your bios and set the FSB to 333, not 1333. Make sure the multiplier is set to x9.

*edit* Do 333 x 9, 2997 = 3GHz.

[DarylVTR]

with asus motherboards cant you just use the AI OVERCLOCK in the BIos and set it to 10%???? This overclocks for you.... or atleast it does on my motherboard.

Asus M2N32-SLI DELUXE @ 10% = 2.8Ghz on my Phenom 9850 Black Edition

[Stickyjam]

Go into your bios and set the FSB to 333, not 1333. Make sure the multiplier is set to x9.

*edit* Do 333 x 9, 2997 = 3GHz.

thats basically whats hes doing hes using quad pumped figures :P

what motherboard is it? bios update might have you sorted...

set mem voltages at 2.1

cpu voltage can go upto 1.4 / 1.45 depending on temps and cooling... what are the current temps?

if its still going badly..

ram timings @ 5-5-5-15

penn you just got a nice chip :P bet thatll do a good 3,4/3.6 with the right cooling...

[Penn]

penn you just got a nice chip :P bet thatll do a good 3,4/3.6 with the right cooling...

It's an energy saving version of the Q6600. Very tempted to get a proper cooler and go for it!

[WOBJ]

RACE 07 is very good, BUT its absolutely AWSOME! with the Logitech G25 Steering wheel and pedals, makes the game utterly superb. I've set my fastest times with it too so it doesn't dis-advantage you in any way, have a good play with the settings too. I can post mine but its like driving without power steering, lots of torque steer, real 2hand on the steering wheel driving. Comes alive with the old BMW e30's, hated them when i used my wireless xbox 360 controller on my pc but the wheel just brings them alive!
Was about £150 for the wheel, but totally worth it. I've tried GTR and GTR2 which don't compare, the main game i play is Team Fortress 2, and Call Of Duty4, both excellent.
TF2 sucks up most my time tbh, i run a 8800gt graphics card slightly overclocked and its amazing value for money, although not the best it can do most games to a good standard, another good upgrade was my 22" widescreen lcd. Feels like i have to look left and right,lol!
Have you heard of a game coming out called Left4Dead? November is the release date, i had someone recommend it be the next game i buy.
Anyone else on Team Fortress2???

[twoga]

to the comments about the ps3 being better then the pc there is no way it will be better pc graphics will allways own all consoles and if you have played crysis on all the top settings then you will see the graphics of pc games and you can all ways upgrade pc's unlike the ps3 or xbox, not saying the consoles are bad i have both of them and you cant beat abit of xbox live

[Predator_R32]

dragging threads up fom the past, noice