Reputation System & Thread Tagging

[Simo]

All,

I'm sorry to announce that due to continual misuse and abuse, after a lengthy staff debate some changes have been made to two elements of the Saxperience Community this evening: -



Thread tagging - now only staff members can utilise this function
User reputation system - this has now been disabled


The thread tagging option is a relatively new feature, which has been abused by certain individuals (who will remain un-named, for now). Well done guys - you've done the community proud. (not!)

The reputation system has been in use for a number of years. Several attempts have been made to stop members from abusing this system, but once again, some people can't resist. The reputation system has real value, but only if used constructively. Far too many people chose to abuse this system, or abuse other members via the reputation system.

The number of new members who have received masses of negative reputation for the slightest 'noob' type post has got much worse of late - these members have little chance of being able to recover their reputation score in a reasonable time frame, so the system gets ignored (by them). If a system can only be utilised by longer standing members, then its not that great a system is it. Once again - well done to the rep abusers. The system has been disabled due to YOUR actions.

On many occasions I've urged members to use the reputation system constructively. On many occasions I've also said that 'we' shall persist with the reputation system and make it work. I don't like going back on my word and I'll make it clear now that I would prefer to be removing problem members from the community than removing functions, which can be useful to the community users!

Let this be a gentle warning to the spammers and abusers of this community. You know who you are... I know who you are.

Simo

[James]

Wtf no repppppp!

Simooo my penissss

edit: can't you ban those abusing it?

[Tupps]

Let this be a gentle warning to the spammers and abusers of this community. You know who you are... I know who you are.

Simo

*Gulp*

[Curran]

adsayer must be on suicide watch!

[alex19]

Well, it's understandable with the amount of flack some people get for asking questions and being jumped on unreasonably.

[craigy_87]

seems so bare over to the left with the rep being gone

[Simo]

seems so bare over to the left with the rep being gone

Could fix that with some power-up bars. lol

[Robb]

I feel bad, I did both.

Ah well, not like anyone can neg rep me for it.

[Agent-VIP]

I'd just hit triple figures too =(

Personally, I try to post in the help sections, partly because of the reputation system.. (Not just because of that, of course).. However.. knowing your posts and help are appreciated..

I don't like going back on my word and I'll make it clear now that I would prefer to be removing problem members from the community than removing functions, which can be useful to the community users!

I know this is a pretty bold move.. but if so, why haven't the problem members been removed? You have infraction capabilities.. banning.. warning..

[craigy_87]

Could fix that with some power-up bars. lol

are they in bright flashy colours ?..... my only request

[Jacko]

not a fan of this simo...

neg rep.

[Sammy-Boy]

At least I suppose it will stop people neg-repping each other for no reason

[Simo]

are they in bright flashy colours ?..... my only request

bright but not flashy :err:

[Tupps]

How about just adding the "Level" bar ?

[Ocego_VTR]

good idea 2bh, stops people making pointless threads.

[craigy_87]

bright but not flashy :err:

i'm willing to compromise.

nah but in seriousness i sometimes used the rep system to judge wither it would be a good idea to buy something from someone etc but if it was being abused i suppose that ruins my plan lol


plus someone left me bad rep recently jus sayin jew .... wtf is that

[Simo]

not a fan of this simo...

neg rep.

I expect all of the rep-whores to be un-impressed.

Likewise, I expect many of the people who the rep whores abused to be happy with the move.

I cant please everyone, but at the end of the day I have to be happy with the community I started off and the continual rep abuse was getting pathetic.

There have been plenty of chats, warnings, infractions going around about rep abuse. Peeps ignore, the next step is taken.

Sorry...

[Tupps]

I've gone from level 34 down to level 11 ?

Points for User: -346

Was about 8k before?

[alex19]

Someone gave me bad rep for not having any rep but lots of posts, thats a great reason :)

[Robb]

Sounds like this new 3 bar malarky is kinda being pushed on us a bit...

[Japman]

no rep

i have no target now

best work on post count now

[Jimmy-Boy]

my life is over :(

[alex19]

And you can delete the reputation explained thread that's stickied aswell btw. :)

[Japman]

opp her we go

new targets on the left

[Simo]

How about just adding the "Level" bar ?

5 minute trial - 2 bars though. ;)

[Tupps]

Dont understand why i've dropped 23 levels !?

5 minute trial - 2 bars though. ;)

Level and Activity should be good imo, Atleast nobody can abuse it

[evans1089]

i see colours again :y:

[Japman]

i was just at 30

now im less how does this work simo
cheers

[Jacko]

its all the same surely....why does the rep system mean so much to the member and why do the mods care so much about the abuse?

[-Jason-]

Ma repz :(

Im so upset took me ages to get to that so much spamming was needed

Oh well 25k here I come :P

[Robb]

Sounds like this new 3 bar malarky is kinda being pushed on us a bit...

Told you...

[Jimmy-Boy]

but surely with no rep people wont bother with photochops as much or be as helpfull as they get nothing out of it..

[alex19]

Everyone's like a big game nerd going crazy about their levels lol. This is fun, sax-p soap opera ftw :P

[-Jason-]

its all the same surely....why does the rep system mean so much to the member and why do the mods care so much about the abuse?

*frantically clicks the bars to try and neg something to jacko*

[Agent-VIP]

I don't like going back on my word and I'll make it clear now that I would prefer to be removing problem members from the community than removing functions, which can be useful to the community users!

There have been plenty of chats, warnings, infractions going around about rep abuse. Peeps ignore, the next step is taken.

If you'd rather remove the problem users..

Wouldn't the next step be removing the problem users from the community rather than removing functions?

That's my last little input anyway..

..you're the boss.

[evans1089]

but surely with no rep people wont bother with photochops as much or be as helpfull as they get nothing out of it..
along with helping people out in threads... "like what can i do?"
"where can i get...?"

Gonna miss the rep system!
:bored:

[Tupps]

Members with 1k posts have higher level than me

If i sufficate myself in my sleep it's all YOUR fault Simo!

[Japman]

its all the same surely....why does the rep system mean so much to the member and why do the mods care so much about the abuse?

i got more points and better level than you

ner ner ner ner ner nanananan nernern:p

[Tupps]

/ Kills Self

[-Jason-]

Members with 1k posts have higher level than me

If i sufficate myself in my sleep it's all YOUR fault Simo!

I kick tupps ass at bars

[Jacko]

i got more points and better level than you

ner ner ner ner ner nanananan nernern:p

means i have a job/life...that is all.

[Cal]

but surely with no rep people wont bother with photochops as much or be as helpfull as they get nothing out of it..Its true lol... half my rep is for chops :D

[Jacko]

Its true lol... half my rep is for chops :D

what rep?

[-Jason-]

*Cal commits suicide with tupps*

[James]

/ end account

[-Jason-]

Will people not just click the report post button instead?

What does that do?

[Cal]

My rep per posts was legendary... 429 from less than 4k.

*WANTS A TROPHY*

[Jimmy-Boy]

so what do you get for helping people out now apart from a thank you?so genuine members will never no the helpfull / e whores? looks like mods are only important ones again :P

[Simo]

its all the same surely....why does the rep system mean so much to the member and why do the mods care so much about the abuse?

If you look at both points of view, you can see why the system has been removed. The mods get dozens and dozens of rep removal requests every day.

Generally only negative rep abuse gets looked into, but when you start looking, theres an awful lot of people good repping 'mates', which makes the system worthless.

The system has been abused to such an extent that its meaningless.


I've gone from level 34 down to level 11 ?

Points for User: -346

Was about 8k before?

The scores will reset for everyone over night. For some reason youve had an advanced hit. Maybe the sytems trying to tell me something? :P

[Mitchell]

with this post, i shall check my point barz

[Mitchell]

ffs...

[-Jason-]

If the bars are resetting will be a spam race to fill them?

[Japman]

so basically its like a game

turn it off and it resets

sign out after a days worth of sax-p and we start fresh

fresh tagets

cool

[Tupps]

The scores will reset for everyone over night. For some reason youve had an advanced hit. Maybe the sytems trying to tell me something? :P

R.I.P Tupps

"Death by saxperience"

[Mieran]

No need for these activity/points bars either.

[Quick]

Ho Hum. I had a reasonable amount of rep....

[-Jason-]

Wheres sayer?

Anyone told him yet ;)

[Tupps]

Ho Hum. I had a reasonable amount of rep....

Activity 4% lol

That's because you google links all day and post them

x

[Robb]

new bars look shit, no offence.

when they first came about it was obvious that the admin really wanted them, everyone kicked up a fuss so they went away, for a while. now rep disappears for one reason or another and this bar system mysteriously comes back...

If the mods cant keep up with the requests then get more staff. e.g. me....

[shooorn94]

but surely with no rep people wont bother with photochops as much or be as helpfull as they get nothing out of it..

I can see this being a problem, those with the knowledge sometimes only posted if they knew they were going to get something out of it. I once posted a thread in the saxo problems section and got no response till I mentioned +rep for any reply that helps.

Personally I agree with agent vip... i didn't give a damn about the rep system really until I noticed it's real uses. It helped me identify the spam whore from the useful bloke, and complete rep mad chap. I would have personally banned those from using the rep system altogether if they abused it.

I realise it is a lot of work sorting out each and every moany so and so who receives bad rep. But if you find a way of predefining bad rep for example, clicking bad rep >> "why do you wish to bad rep this person" >> a set list of reasons (abusing other members of the community, being unhelpful, spamming unnecesarily etc.)

Maybe bump the premium price up to sort this problem out, or only have rep for those with premium?

It has probably all been discussed already but I hope you've made the right choice simo.

Anywho... any chance of an explanation on the new levels and things? :y:

[Japman]

No need for these activity/points bars either.

your doing well mate so if i was u ,id be happy to keeo them

[Tupps]

Wheres sayer?

Anyone told him yet ;)

He's dead....

He's had a bad day and this pushed him over the edge

No Joke

Well Done Simo

[Cal]

Its racism imo... fuck off you green cunt! Yeah do one orangey you bellend

[Jacko]

ill be a mod...

because if you look at my rep patterns i dont abuse the system at all...well...

much more reliable then jimo...

[djrem]

oh crap.

Im gonna have to make DIY guides again...

[-Jason-]

Bars are to complex imo

Rep was simple green good red bad

[Tupps]

Robb, Tupps and Cal for Mods imo

Spend alot more time online than majority of staff

[Japman]

cal your bars suck

[Japman]

Robb, Tupps and Cal for Mods imo

Spend alot more time online than majority of staff

what about me you racist tWAT

[evans1089]

Bars are to complex imo

Rep was simple green good red bad

+1

Rep system back!! we need to start a petition lol

[kenny]

i think this is horrible imo. seems pointless but thats just my opinion

[Jacko]

Robb, Tupps and Cal for Mods imo

Spend alot more time online than majority of staff

i should be the mod that is hardly ever online...

agree or ill neg rep...

[Jacko]

what about me you racist tWAT

one welshy is enough...

[-Jason-]

Will also encorage people to make threads like

Weekend thread
Whats for lunch thread
Whats for tea thread
What did you do last night
What are your toilet habbits etc

Just to get loads of posts in them and then get more points I feel this may bring more spam and therefor more work for the mods to keep up with

[Tupps]

Stop spamming people

SEE.... i'm good at this Simo

[Simo]

its all the same surely....why does the rep system mean so much to the member and why do the mods care so much about the abuse?

5 minute trial - 2 bars though. ;)

5 minute bar trial over... more views/opinions will be read once theyre posted. ;)

[Mieran]

At least give members the option if they want the bars under their name or not?

[Cal]

Just ban Jimo already

[-Jason-]

Bars gone

[Japman]

bars are now gone :(

[Robb]

Robb, Tupps and Cal for Mods imo

Spend alot more time online than majority of staff

Exactly.

Temporary powers, if we fuck up they get taken away...

[Japman]

one welshy is enough...

cal aint welsh

hes a joking welsh man

[Cal]

Cal is as Welsh as the hills.

ENGERRRRRRRLAAAAAAAAND

[Mieran]

Much better now.

[Jacko]

you need a better replacement...rep without the numbers?

these bars are not going ot solve anything imo...

[shooorn94]

thing is if you were to remove said rep abusers/troublemakers, abusers of the system etc. etc. there will be tons more there will always be someone to replace them, shed loads of prats coming online and making the worst randomest threads in the history of the world.

[Japman]

16v veccy

why

[-Jason-]

If jackos a mod I want to be one to he is not even from this country ;)

Love you really jackie

[evans1089]

bored now :(

[Jacko]

cal aint welsh

hes a joking welsh man

i was on about robb....

[-Jason-]

Simos getting all the points for this thread unfair tbh

[Tupps]

Bed time...

Hope this is sorted asap, sleep tight Simo

Your number 1 SUPER!!! Mod wannabe (No RLY)

Tupps180

[Jacko]

If jackos a mod I want to be one to he is not even from this country ;)

Love you really jackie

i could spread the word for NI you can do nothing for the community...nooothing.

[-Jason-]

I can beat you at fifa

[Jacko]

who cant...?

[saxodan]

I think its a good idea
not too fussed on rep, its ok but meh

i'll be honest, i never used tags, and the rep, never really repped that often! Then again I only come on here to check out what people are up to and have a natter.

[Japman]

any news game idea guys

cheers

[Mieran]

New sig ftw.

[-Jason-]

I was over 500 iirc ;)

[evans1089]

New sig ftw.

lol! thats 1 way ;)

[Mochachino]

eeeee, sorry to interupt ya banter. but can we not have the rep back, but a way that MAKES u leave a name, like when u rep it leaves the name for you (thi rep was left by db_sax) and also only allow reps to be given taken by users with over 500 posts.

When i sell buy or consiser buying i take the rep into consideration, if they have masses of neg rep then i wont sell to them or buy, couse i wont trust them, if theyre all green then, i have more confidence with them. same with advice n stuff too. Danny = unhappy now :(:( lmao

[-Jason-]

I cba with this tonight will be a while I feel before something is sorted as there will always be people/problems with a system

Night

[Graeme]

at the end of the day it became out of hand to control, where as spam can be deleted by a click of a button

saxp used to manage without rep and im sure it will now ;)

and the ones that seems to be most gutted about it are just upset that they have lost part of there e-penis

[Simo]

eeeee, sorry to interupt ya banter. but can we not have the rep back, but a way that MAKES u leave a name, like when u rep it leaves the name for you (thi rep was left by db_sax) and also only allow reps to be given taken by users with over 500 posts.

When i sell buy or consiser buying i take the rep into consideration, if they have masses of neg rep then i wont sell to them or buy, couse i wont trust them, if theyre all green then, i have more confidence with them. same with advice n stuff too. Danny = unhappy now :(:( lmao

Once this thread has run its course IF we decide to bring the rep system back it will only happen if all rep points are reset and much stricter rules are put in place.

There's a lot of peoples opinions to collect yet mind...

[Jacko]

i still think rep without the numbers is just as effective...

you wouldnt get the rep spam and the rep bar would still be there...win win situation tbh...

[Mochachino]

btw, i dont care about the tags thing. It was blatently never gonna get used properly, in fact i didnt see the point innit. i added a few random ones myself tbh such as "frying pan for sale" nothing like the maddie ones though.

[evans1089]

eeeee, sorry to interupt ya banter. but can we not have the rep back, but a way that MAKES u leave a name, like when u rep it leaves the name for you (thi rep was left by db_sax) and also only allow reps to be given taken by users with over 500 posts.

When i sell buy or consiser buying i take the rep into consideration, if they have masses of neg rep then i wont sell to them or buy, couse i wont trust them, if theyre all green then, i have more confidence with them. same with advice n stuff too. Danny = unhappy now :(:( lmao

that could work but it depends on what coding simo can get yo make that optional with the leaving a name...

that would stop the abuse of the system!

[Japman]

Once this thread has run its course im sure we will end up banning that Japman for one reason or another. :P

There's a lot of peoples opinions to collect yet mind...

sounds good to me :y:

[Mochachino]

Once this thread has run its course IF we decide to bring the rep system back it will only happen if all rep points are reset and much stricter rules are put in place.

There's a lot of peoples opinions to collect yet mind...

or somehow delete all the neg reps poeple got ;) I added a few guides, n got a fair few reps from them.

EDIT: maybe not allow rep to be given in newbie/generalchat/jokes. then only allow it in the problem queries sections, n IT media. That was u get a better idea on how they contribute to the forum with advice n guides, other than being a funny tosser in general chat, with iFail remarks etc

[saxodan]

haha notice the people wanting rep back?
the ones who ass lick a hell of a lot and share rep like an STI among themselves...

[Cal]

My 10 cents...

I must have done over 20 sigs for people and many wheel chops etc. Was nice to get something back for the efforts. Also finding info/links for people etc and just being funny lol and making people laugh.

Now its on posts and activity, which is a bit gay... doesn't even mean you're a good user.

Don't think I've ever neg repped anyone in the year I've been on here tbh. Don't see the need unless it waaaaay out of order, but then infractions etc should be issued.

There's no rep on ClioSport either and its just got that boring, church feel to it... which is why I'm always back here for a laugh and to help people out with chops.

Nite nite people xxx

[James]

Once this thread has run its course IF we decide to bring the rep system back it will only happen if all rep points are reset and much stricter rules are put in place.

I honestlly don't care for it to be honest lol, without it the site looks ollllld schoooollll cool again.

[Simo]

sounds good to me :y:

agreed ;)

[Japman]

think we all now the "laugh " is dieing out on here now

everyone is getting serious

its like 106owners and 106 rallye forum

all nerds with no humour

[Mochachino]

haha notice the people wanting rep back?
the ones who ass lick a hell of a lot and share rep like an STI among themselves...


you mean me? :S

[Jacko]

serious fact the banter has gone....

[shooorn94]

I've never personally used the report post button but say a new member comes online and is being a general idiot towards most members and all the elite posters jump at him and start hitting the report post button, won't that again create more work.... how often does that button get used?

[Japman]

i want rep back and im not an arse licker

can think of alot of ppl that are

[Simo]

My 10 cents...

I must have done over 20 sigs for people and many wheel chops etc. Was nice to get something back for the efforts. Also finding info/links for people etc and just being funny lol and making people laugh.

Now its on posts and activity, which is a bit gay... doesn't even mean you're a good user.

Don't think I've ever neg repped anyone in the year I've been on here tbh. Don't see the need unless it waaaaay out of order, but then infractions etc should be issued.

There's no rep on ClioSport either and its just got that boring, church feel to it... which is why I'm always back here for a laugh and to help people out with chops.

Nite nite people xxx

Is someones appreciation and thanks not enough??

[saxodan]

you mean me? :S

didnt mention names
paronoid?
NEG REP

[Japman]

serious fact the banter has gone....

i hardly ever agree with you but hands down your right there

i remember a few months back when i was at the call centre

used to spend 8 hours solid on here and it made my day go alot faster due to the posts and the good people that were on here

i miss them days tbh

[Simo]

I honestlly don't care for it to be honest lol, without it the site looks ollllld schoooollll cool again.

agreed...

Will send you some rep tokens in the post! :A:

[James]

My 10 cents...

I must have done over 20 sigs for people and many wheel chops etc. Was nice to get something back for the efforts. Also finding info/links for people etc and just being funny lol and making people laugh.

Now its on posts and activity, which is a bit gay... doesn't even mean you're a good user.

Don't think I've ever neg repped anyone in the year I've been on here tbh. Don't see the need unless it waaaaay out of order, but then infractions etc should be issued.

There's no rep on ClioSport either and its just got that boring, church feel to it... which is why I'm always back here for a laugh and to help people out with chops.

Nite nite people xxx

Just get them to suck you off at the next meet like you did viper

xxx

[Mochachino]

i want rep back and im not an arse licker

can think of alot of ppl that are


i dont get how arse licking has anything to do with rep? :S

[Japman]

ask who ever posted it on last page

[Jacko]

i hardly ever agree with you but hands down your right there

i remember a few months back when i was at the call centre

used to spend 8 hours solid on here and it made my day go alot faster due to the posts and the good people that were on here

i miss them days tbh

same...i couldnt spend a day on here now...tis lifeless.

[Graeme]

how does getting rid of rep stop the banter?

cal- rep was good for that reason but when people miss use it everyone suffers

[Tim_W]

Now we can see the people who are really a value to this community as opposed to those who sit there talking shite and spaming all day :D. It was getting annoying being judged by my reputation points and low post count but all that has changed now, 582 posts and level 13. Compare that to some of the old rep/spam whore's and i think my point is proven.
We will also see the return of freedom of speach. In other words all those who lived in fear of speaking their mind's due to the rep abuse will be able to have a say. How many times did we see people being neg repped to death by the rep whores for speaking their mind ? I think there are going to be some big changes in the next few days :D

Tim :y:

[Japman]

all the noobs will become famous ?

dats my guess

[adam19]

i manage to get upto 24 green reps today (record for me ) aswell :n:

[Jacko]

how does getting rid of rep stop the banter?

cal- rep was good for that reason but when people miss use it everyone suffers

wasnt the point i was making...

with or without the rep...sax-p has changed...mods on power trips...etc.

half the time its like a mod gets jelous they arnt part of the banter so they lock the thread down...

i dont see why a general chat forum exsists when general chat is forwned upon...

[Jacko]

Now we can see the people who are really a value to this community as opposed to those who sit there talking shite and spaming all day :D. It was getting annoying being judged by my reputation points and low post count but all that has changed now, 582 posts and level 13. Compare that to some of the old rep/spam whore's and i think my point is proven.
We will also see the return of freedom of speach. In other words all those who lived in fear of speaking their mind's due to the rep abuse will be able to have a say. How many times did we see people being neg repped to death by the rep whores for speaking their mind ? I think there are going to be some big changes in the next few days :D

Tim :y:


with posts like that you'll still be a do gooder that annoys most people....no sense of humour...if you joined in the banter you wouldnt need to cry about low rep and spam...

[Japman]

the man above is making so much sence today

[Mochachino]

wasnt the point i was making...

with or without the rep...sax-p has changed...mods on power trips...etc.

half the time its like a mod gets jelous they arnt part of the banter so they lock the thread down...

i dont see why a general chat forum exsists when general chat is forwned upon...

exactly, the forum i used to be on before this was a music one, and theyre general chat was amazing, nothing ever got locked, it went on for pages n pages and it was a thirving community, most user was online at one time was 996 or sumthing.

the only threads that should get locked here should be the repeated q's one such as avatars etc.

[Simo]

wasnt the point i was making...

with or without the rep...sax-p has changed...mods on power trips...etc.

half the time its like a mod gets jelous they arnt part of the banter so they lock the thread down...

i dont see why a general chat forum exsists when general chat is forwned upon...

Report moderator abuse to admin if you have a problem with something someone has done. General chat is not frowned upon, but sometimes people take threads too far and people complain - sometimes threads then got locked or deleted. Other times, blatant crap deserves to be moderated.

[Graeme]

wasnt the point i was making...

with or without the rep...sax-p has changed...mods on power trips...etc.

half the time its like a mod gets jelous they arnt part of the banter so they lock the thread down...

i dont see why a general chat forum exsists when general chat is forwned upon...

i realised this after i posted lol :P

i wouldnt say its power trips though, mods are there for a reason at the end of the day but i can see where your coming from!

[saxodan]

with posts like that you'll still be a do gooder that annoys most people....no sense of humour...if you joined in the banter you wouldnt need to cry about low rep and spam...

I know what you mean about the mods on power trips, one in particular, not a problem with the rest, never had

I see what you mean about the sense of humour, but I see it as an aquired taste, too many newbies come on here without a clue who people are, how they act etc etc
not everyone comes on here with the same sarcastic, digging and "one up" culture that sax-p seems to have. This is no reason to bad rep them

If you know what I mean

[adam19]

reckon newbies cant rep or get repped till around 500 posts then they understand the forum more:y:

my opinion anyway lol!

[Mochachino]

reckon newbies cant rep or get repped till around 500 posts then they understand the forum more:y:

same as i said and for that reason aswell.

[Jacko]

mods do vary...some are cool and let things flow, and then some do think they are god and will try their hardest to get a pat on the head from simo...

and reporting mods to mods aint really my thing...

but i think you should let mods know they need to let the banter be, give them guidelines and make sure they stick to them...

eg. chris, is a decent mod...usually joins in banter and always gives a generall warning before slapping a lock on...

where as ryan, doesnt join in the banter and doesnt warn when threads go of track...he locks the threads with a smug comment...

naaaa mean?

[saxodan]

same as i said and for that reason aswell.

Thats not the point though, they shouldn't have to get used to certain members abuse and bad rep becuase they are new

[saxodan]

mods do vary...some are cool and let things flow, and then some do think they are god and will try their hardest to get a pat on the head from simo...

and reporting mods to mods aint really my thing...

but i think you should let mods know they need to let the banter be, give them guidelines and make sure they stick to them...

eg. chris, is a decent mod...usually joins in banter and always gives a generall warning before slapping a lock on...

where as ryan, doesnt join in the banter and doesnt warn when threads go of track...he locks the threads with a smug comment...

naaaa mean?

if I could rep you know young man :p

[Jacko]

I know what you mean about the mods on power trips, one in particular, not a problem with the rest, never had

I see what you mean about the sense of humour, but I see it as an aquired taste, too many newbies come on here without a clue who people are, how they act etc etc
not everyone comes on here with the same sarcastic, digging and "one up" culture that sax-p seems to have. This is no reason to bad rep them

If you know what I mean

yea..but unless your a complete spaz, you will soon click onto the banter...you can either join in or cry and become a victim...

[Japman]

agreed

chris is cool like that dont see him on that often anymore

pred RULES and always gives us a warning-because of this ill tend to get the thread back on topic as he goes about it the right way

mods that just lock and leave smug comments

well theres one word for them

[Mochachino]

Thats not the point though, they shouldn't have to get used to certain members abuse and bad rep becuase they are new

i dont mean like that mate. I mean for example, when i very first joined saxp, i got neg repped for asking what style driving poeple had if they were economical or a speeding loonatic.

Noobs who get neg repped for that such as talking about racing and driving like prats, will get the forum a bad name, and a bad image for saxo owners.

But if the noobs cant get repped will 500 posts then any thread they do make, they can get wanred by other poeple, so they dont do it again.

I got neg repped a fair bit when i first joined, then tunred it around with helping out making guides etc, with the odd neg rep such as "poeple cant help if theyre spotty" when i made a comment that mcy d's workers are spotty.

i dont know where im going with this, probs dosent even make sense lol, im tired Sorry.

[Japman]

yea..but unless your a complete spaz, you will soon click onto the banter...you can either join in or cry and become a victim...

im suspect for that

people who cry get penty of shit off everyone

[Jacko]

agreed

chris is cool like that dont see him on that often anymore

pred RULES and always gives us a warning-because of this ill tend to get the thread back on topic as he goes about it the right way

mods that just lock and leave smug comments

well theres one word for them

ginger?

[Simo]

mods do vary...some are cool and let things flow, and then some do think they are god and will try their hardest to get a pat on the head from simo...

and reporting mods to mods aint really my thing...

but i think you should let mods know they need to let the banter be, give them guidelines and make sure they stick to them...

eg. chris, is a decent mod...usually joins in banter and always gives a generall warning before slapping a lock on...

where as ryan, doesnt join in the banter and doesnt warn when threads go of track...he locks the threads with a smug comment...

naaaa mean?

I know what you mean... it was actually Ryan who was recently telling the rest of the mod's to let things slide and go with the flow in gen chat mind!

Maybe I need to have another chat with the mods in general. I think its pretty obvious when something over steps the mark... depends on how many shades of grey people interpret I suppose :A:

[djrem]

mods that just lock and leave smug comments

well theres one word for them

Tupps is a mod now?

Yah for Tupps.

Congratulations.

[djrem]

Turn off postcount in the General Chat section imo.

Spam issues solved.

[Japman]

if tupps was a mod he would make my rep huge and post count so you fukcers coudnt catch me

go tupps x

[Jacko]

I know what you mean... it was actually Ryan who was recently telling the rest of the mod's to let things slide and go with the flow in gen chat mind!

Maybe I need to have another chat with the mods in general. I think its pretty obvious when something over steps the mark... depends on how many shades of grey people interpret I suppose :A:

thats the thing, i dont know how youd make it clear when exactly a thread needs a mod to take action...but inconsistancy from mods isnt imo good for the forum...

[Graeme]

if tupps was a mod he would make my rep huge and post count so you fukcers coudnt catch me

go tupps x

saxp would also become full of spam and out of control :P

[djrem]

thats the thing, i dont know how youd make it clear when exactly a thread needs a mod to take action...but inconsistancy from mods isnt imo good for the forum...

Agreed.

[Japman]

ginger?

c...

you work out the rest

[Japman]

saxp would also become full of spam and out of control :P

but it would also become very funny with plenty of humour and laughter:p

[Simo]

thats the thing, i dont know how youd make it clear when exactly a thread needs a mod to take action...but inconsistancy from mods isnt imo good for the forum...

I agree, but its often not as simple as that. Whilst a group of you may be having a laugh about something, someone else may be complaining about your chit-chat. A mod has to weigh up both sides... and take action. Both sides wont be happy dependant on the mod's decision.

[Mochachino]

thats the thing, i dont know how youd make it clear when exactly a thread needs a mod to take action...but inconsistancy from mods isnt imo good for the forum...

such as

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178512

joke thread making poeple laugh, entertaining and got locked

then a user thats getting slated, and goes on for pages n doesnt get locked:http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178512

[Japman]

if someone doesnt like the chit chat then they can easily get out of the thread that the chit chat is in

we dont ask them to sit there watching it

they are not tied to any thread

[adam19]

this threads going no where:n:

[Japman]

such as

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178512

joke thread making poeple laugh, entertaining and got locked

then a user thats getting slated, and goes on for pages n doesnt get locked:http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178512

id rep you if i could

[Mochachino]

id rep you if i could

id rep you back aswell if i could ;) lol jokes, abuse da system bruv

[Simo]

such as

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178512

joke thread making poeple laugh, entertaining and got locked

then a user thats getting slated, and goes on for pages n doesnt get locked:http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178512

Both same thread?

[Mochachino]

Both same thread?

oops for the second one i meant....

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177759

EDIT, this is the only thread i could be bothered to find, but theres more that are more harsh n go on for more pages compatley off subject than this.

[Tim_W]

with posts like that you'll still be a do gooder that annoys most people....no sense of humour...if you joined in the banter you wouldnt need to cry about low rep and spam...

I have only just started mate dont worry, you haven't seen my true colours yet. Things are going to change around here and the sooner people like you realise this the better. If you dont like it you could allways leave like you allready suggested. I guess your pretty gutted now, 10,000+ posts and level 10 ? If anyone is going to be crying about rep it should be you, oh wait you are :D

Tim :y:

[Jacko]

I agree, but its often not as simple as that. Whilst a group of you may be having a laugh about something, someone else may be complaining about your chit-chat. A mod has to weigh up both sides... and take action. Both sides wont be happy dependant on the mod's decision.

if someone doesnt like the chit chat then they can easily get out of the thread that the chit chat is in

we dont ask them to sit there watching it

they are not tied to any thread

do you never just think of saying what gav said to a do-gooder complaining?

[Simo]

do you never just think of saying what gav said to a do-gooder complaining?

No. Other users have as much right to enjoy the community as you do. If something upsets someone, theyve already read it, so saying dont read it is a bit pointless. lol.

[Barry123]

seriously, what the fucking fuck...

[Jacko]

I have only just started mate dont worry, you haven't seen my true colours yet. Things are going to change around here and the sooner people like you realise this the better. If you dont like it you could allways leave like you allready suggested. I guess your pretty gutted now, 10,000+ posts and level 10 ? If anyone is going to be crying about rep it should be you, oh wait you are :D

Tim :y:

seriously im not fussed on the rep system....and level 10 means fuck all to me as i dont even know how many levels there is nor did i know i was level 10...so it would appear this means alot more to you than me...

im guessing you are anti-banter?

you think everything on this forum should be saxo related?

[James]

seriously, what the fucking fuck...

lmfao i laughed so hard at that

[saxodan]

seriously, what the fucking fuck...

hahaha
and on that note
im off to bed

[Japman]

No. Other users have as much right to enjoy the community as you do. If something upsets someone, theyve already read it, so saying dont read it is a bit pointless. lol.

ok then so after reading it and thinking "wtf"
they should then exit the thread

rather than writing a complaint about it

sad i think really

without all the people that chit chat this forum,the forum would have no humour at all

[Jacko]

No. Other users have as much right to enjoy the community as you do. If something upsets someone, theyve already read it, so saying dont read it is a bit pointless. lol.

yea good point..

but i dont understand if they are dead set against the chit-chat of the forum then why not just stick to the bits of the forum that intrest them the most?

but going into gen chat where the will be general chat funny enough and then complaining about it baffles me...

[Simo]

seriously, what the fucking fuck...

lol - rep or no rep, you'll still be a leg-end sayer :P

I'm off to bed to let you peeps come to terms with this... and look on the bright side, the future withOUT rep could be even better than before! :A:

If the experience points don't fix themselves overnight (~4am) I'll sort them out tomorrow evening. ;)

[Japman]

seriously im not fussed on the rep system....and level 10 means fuck all to me as i dont even know how many levels there is nor did i know i was level 10...so it would appear this means alot more to you than me...

im guessing you are anti-banter?

you think everything on this forum should be saxo related?

tim_w will soon be the a new mod im guessing

[Barry123]

lol - rep or no rep, you'll still be a leg-end sayer :P

I'm off to bed to let you peeps come to terms with this... and look on the bright side, the future withOUT rep could be even better than before! :A:

If the experience points don't fix themselves overnight (~4am) I'll sort them out tomorrow evening. ;)

I thought it might be on it's way out tbh...

I win that little game... yee haaaaa

[Graeme]

seriously, what the fucking fuck...

adsayer without rep is just a Noob :P:P:P

[Mochachino]

is a mod going to lock this now? :S :(

[adam19]

should make a poll rep or no rep :zainy:
but off to bed now any way - be on in morning and this thread will still be ticking over :panic:

[Japman]

yea good point..

but i dont understand if they are dead set against the chit-chat of the forum then why not just stick to the bits of the forum that intrest them the most?

but going into gen chat where the will be general chat funny enough and then complaining about it baffles me...

this man is a legend tbh

[Jacko]

tim_w will soon be the a new mod im guessing

would proper ruin sax-p if folk like him got mod status...

[Simo]

should make a poll rep or no rep :zainy:
but off to bed now any way - be on in morning and this thread will still be ticking over :panic:

+3 pages by morning once rem, sayer and yates let loose later on :P

[Barry123]

adsayer without rep is just a Noob :P:P:P

nevaaaaaaaaaaa

tbh I've got to stop going on this site anyway once I pop back to uni so all in all, the mass spammage from the last couple of days, the end of the reputation system as we know it, and the fact I costed my own self a 1st in my master means it's working in my favour weening myself off this great saxo internet forum.

:geek:

[Mochachino]

im stamping my feet about this atm. But ive just come to terms with it and decided i dont mind. im off to bed :p

[Tim_W]

Im guessing you are anti-banter?

Far from it, i am actually anti-talking shite. There is a point when the banter turns into talking shite and that is where problems arise. Seriously, have you seen some of the crap that has been posted latley ? How that is classed as banter or general chat is anyones guess.

Tim

[adam19]

+3 pages by morning once rem, sayer and yates let loose later on :P

lol - i reckon 4more pages :A: - anyways will see in morning if dont get locked :fcuk::y:

[djrem]

+3 pages by morning once rem, sayer and yates let loose later on :P

Permission to land: Granted

[Japman]

Far from it, i am actually anti-talking shite. There is a point when the banter turns into talking shite and that is where problems arise. Seriously, have you seen some of the crap that has been posted latley ? How that is classed as banter is anyones guess.

Tim

each to their own

i enjoy what i see on here

except for people who are serious and think they are going to be better person for being prim and proper

join in with it,it gets alot easyier and you have more fun

[Barry123]

+3 pages by morning once rem, sayer and yates let loose later on :P

just biding my time until you like the 'X' button in the top right hand corner...

[Jacko]

Far from it, i am actually anti-talking shite. There is a point when the banter turns into talking shite and that is where problems arise. Seriously, have you seen some of the crap that has been posted latley ? How that is classed as banter or general chat is anyones guess.

Tim

why does it effect you?

let it be, go to a thread that intrests you...instead of waisting your own time in threads your going to complain about...

[Ben_L]

Sax-p is nearly as good as ssc now... sax-pFail


Oh well was just a green blob at the end of the day...

[Nathan]

The Rep Abuse would have stopped if you had made all Rep given, Positive and negative, show the User I.D of the person who gave it.

But at the end of the day its a forum, you could have all the rep in the world turn up to a meet and people could think your a nobber...

Looks like i better improve on that post count as my e-penis is tiny now :P

[Barry123]

Sax-p is nearly as good as ssc now... sax-pFail

you mean saxp barely struggles to get 10 threads and 5 visitors a day?


sure about that?

[Ben_L]

lol, i was kidding i cant stand ssc.

[Japman]

lols

adsayer-always brings a smile to my face

[Barry123]

entirely selfish... I post to make myself laugh... anyone that happens to laugh as well is a bonus.

respectaaa

[Tim_W]

why does it effect you?

let it be, go to a thread that intrests you...instead of waisting your own time in threads your going to complain about...

You dont get it do you ? Then again you allready have me down as someone who hates general chat, having a laugh and joining in with the banter. It might come as a shock to you that i spend 90% of my time in general chat reading posts and laughing at some of the stuff thats posted. The reason i didnt join in is because i knew for a fact that if i did i would get neg repped to death by the big boy's.
If me not joining in with the banter bothers both you and Japman then dont worry, your going to see a lot more of me from now on :D

Tim :y:

[Barry123]

You dont get it do you ? Then again you allready have me down as someone who hates general chat, having a laugh and joining in with the banter. It might come as a shock to you that i spend 90% of my time in general chat reading posts and laughing at some of the stuff thats posted. The reason i didnt join in is because i knew for a fact that if i did i would get neg repped to death by the big boy's.
If me not joining in with the banter bothers both you and Japman then dont worry, your going to see a lot more of me from now on :D

Tim :y:

tim, honestly I don't mind you (well i don't mind anyone on the forum really). from what I've seen you tend to post sensible comments when users are asking for help which is cool.

but spam is cooler don't forget that :cool:

[Japman]

becommign a mod are you

so if i arse lick my next 585 post and become modlicker

do i get to be the same as you

[Nathan]

i spend 90% of my time in general chat

If all else fails, theres nothing like spending the other 10% down the pub ;)

[Jacko]

You dont get it do you ? Then again you allready have me down as someone who hates general chat, having a laugh and joining in with the banter. It might come as a shock to you that i spend 90% of my time in general chat reading posts and laughing at some of the stuff thats posted. The reason i didnt join in is because i knew for a fact that if i did i would get neg repped to death by the big boy's.
If me not joining in with the banter bothers both you and Japman then dont worry, your going to see a lot more of me from now on :D

Tim :y:

all that time you harped on about it only being rep....was bollocks really.

youve just told us that you havent been yourself because you feared neg rep...pretty sad...

nice to see youve grew a pair since the reps gone though...

good luck to you if it ever returns...

[djrem]

I miss Gazzza.

[Japman]

where has he gone

[Jacko]

I miss Gazzza.

yea...he was banter city...

[Nathan]

all that time you harped on about it only being rep....was bollocks really.

youve just told us that you havent been yourself because you feared neg rep...pretty sad...

nice to see youve grew a pair since the reps gone though...

good luck to you if it ever returns...

Look guys its no good getting up about this at each other throats, this is the internet, you dont have to get on with each other, and hopefully it shouldnt worry you that much what the other says, rise above it, keyboard warriors FTL :y:

[Barry123]

I miss Gazzza.

his intellect was an inspiration to me...

[Jacko]

im just currious to see what little timmy is gonna bring to the table with his new found testicles....

[djrem]

where has he gone

he died. Jimo got a letter or something from his mum.


Tim_W is a troll.
Every thread i bump into him he automatically holds a mirror opinion to the norm.

Im a hetrosexual. Its the norm.

[Tim_W]

im just currious to see what little timmy is gonna bring to the table with his new found testicles....

When it comes to giving people like you shit then yeah neg rep was the killer but i allways came up with the goods when it was needed. All your rep whore friends would be able to take away what bit of rep i had in one go. Seeing as rep was used to judge people back then i had to be carefull, a few red blobs could make or break a person and i had a reputation to up-hold ;).

Tim :y:

[Nathan]

When it comes to giving people like you shit then yeah neg rep was the killer but i allways came up with the goods when it was needed. All your rep whore friends would be able to take away what bit of rep i had in one go. Seeing as rep was used to judge people back then i had to be carefull, a few red blobs could make or break a person and i had a reputation to up-hold ;).

Tim :y:

Not sure if your being sarcastic there but....

Just to remind you, this is an internet forum.

Rep really shouldn't matter that much :wacko:

If it does im sorry but you need to get out more.....

[Paul]

<Serious Paul>

Right i can see why you have removed the reputation system. (*cough* Jaybiss complaining about noobs getting bad repped and leaving the site *cough*). Personally i believe "if something is broke then you should fix it", along with "if something isn't broke you shouldn't fix it. " What i dont believe is "If something is broke, delete it."

In your staff chat (in the section the normal members can't get in) what other options did you think of? Or did you think of just deleting it as an easy option? (no offence there, i know you and other staff have put in alot of solid work to get this site to where it is today).

Right firstly, Lets just weigh up the good and bad of the rep system.

GOOD
> It teaches newbies a lesson, those who are serious about learning about saxo's and really want help will ignore it, carry on posting and build it back up. This gets rid of the timewasters that come on here to enquire about electric superchargers, ebay chips etc.

> It helps when buying an item. Ok we still got the iTrader... But the first thing i personally used to look at when selling/buying was the persons rep. If its red its obvious they're not going to be as good a trader as someone with green.

> It actually helps moderators do their job. Ok you said it makes more work for them. What would be harder, going through every thread made looking for trouble makers, or getting pm's off people (who think they've been wrongly repped) with links to the threads where there might be trouble and bad rep has been given?

> It makes some people want to help others as they know they'll get something back out of it. Wether its general advice or photoshops. With the rep system removed i think you'll see alot less people doing photoshops for people and offering good advice.

> It helps moderate the forums. When used correctly normal members such as myself can give good or bad rep to someone. For minor rule breaking such as text talk sometimes a bit of bad rep is all thats needed, instead of an infraction off a moderator.

BAD POINTS
> Number one has to be abusing the rep system.

> Extra work for moderators sorting out the abuse.


Conclusion
Surely the good outweighs the bad. Instead of deleting the whole thing i think you should work with the communtity and ask how we can solve the bad points.


Other options
Option 1 Delete the bad rep, and just have positive rep
Most people, if not all, who complain is about bad rep. I can't see you getting many people complaining about positive rep. So you could have positive rep only? So just one button for approve, instead of approve or disapprove.

Advantages

> This would keep the spam whores happy as they would carry the great forum banter going (which isn't as good on many other car forums).

> It would keep the noobs with no rep happy as they can only improve. If they do something wrong i'm sure the longterm members will have a little go at them and they'll learn from their mistakes.

> It would keep the helpful members out such as people who offer advice in the Engine and Performance, Interior and Styling, etc. As they will still get rewarded for their advice.

> This option would keep photoshopp'ers happy as they will still be getting rewarded for their photoshops.

Disadvantages

> The negative rep system gets rid of all the noobs who just sign up, make a thread or two, make some trouble, rip some people off, ask how to turbo their 1.1 then crash their car and never come back. Them kind of people.

> The neg rep system is like a moderator power for the proper saxp community. Which saves the moderating team a big job. For example its a punishment that us normal daily users can use to punish members for texttalk, spamming etc. Which saves the proper moderators sorting through loads of text looking for texttalkers etc.


Option 2 Different Levels Of Rep (my favourite option tbh)

Explaination
Ok simo i know you love your bars, and im not talking about the ones in town. These level bars that you love and most people on here dont.. How about mixing this idea with the idea of rep. May be hard to code tho :\. I'm thinking of when you click to rep someone you should pick an option what the rep is for. Such as:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Paul_CGM/my%20pics/suggestion1.jpg

Then you have two options. Get rid of the "leave negative rep" or improve it simular to above with options such as "Not funny" "Not Helpful" ETC. It may stop unneccasary badrep. Personally i think might be good idea just to get rid of the leave bad rep side. And just have the leave positive.

Then next to the user name, where you originally wanted to put the bars you could have a new set of bars representing what the user has rep for. Such as:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Paul_CGM/my%20pics/suggestion2.jpg

Advantages of this:
> You get to keep you gay bars :homme: :p

> People wont be asking mods to remove bad rep because it wont be there (if you chose to get rid of it all together).

> Will be more detailed and helpful rep. If you chose to upgrade the neg rep system then it will give an indication as to why they've been bad repped (easy to spot abuse for moderators).

Disadvantages
> The saxp community hate bars under their name.


Option 3 Employ Tupps

Make tupps a moderator and get him to deal with all of the abuse of rep system.

Advantages
> No more anoying mail for other moderators

> Problem solved.

Disadvantages

> Saxp would turn into a rep warzone.


Option 4 Add a rep report button
Explaination
To save emails/pms that the mods get you could add a report button in the user control panel next to the rep comments. This could be set up simular to the report button in threads/posts (damn that things slow though lol).

Once bad rep has been reported it can be stored in some kind of table along with the comment as why rep was left. Once a week one member of staff could view the table and simply delete the ones with no good reasons by ticking or unticking a checkbox. Then at end of the table simply click submit and all sorted. Such as:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Paul_CGM/my%20pics/suggestion3.jpg

Right i'm too tired to write anymore. You get the idea though. Hope this helps.

< / Serious Paul >

[Nathan]

Spot on tbh paul i wont guess how long that took you to put together :P

[Japman]

paul makes so much sence

well done mate

[Barry123]

paul.... go away.

[Mieran]

Paul I'll rep you if the system comes back tbh.

[Paul]

iTrader instead? lol.

Night everyone x

[djrem]

i think the Rep system should be inactive in certain boards

ie Jokes, General and similar.

It should be a "thanks for technical knowledge" system.

Not "OMG YOUZ GOT JOKES FROM SICKIPEDIA" lololololz

My 2 cents.

[NickB]

Like option 2 alot paul that was another issue with the rep

coopner and pred are amongst the most helpful guys on here

rem and adz are amongst the funniest

so different type of rep indicates why they have been repped.... fantastic idea

[titchster]

From the small time i've spent on this site, I've seen rep being abused, and used properly, but on the other hand, I've seen it used appropriately too, plus it helps to filter out the trouble makers, example, someone comes along with loads of neg rep, you know that the chances are, they're gonna come along with some random shite, if they've got lots of good rep, you know they're an established member, and are likely to come out with something appropriate.

I preferred it with rep. :(


paul.... go away.

He's trying to get your life back. :p

[djrem]

makes no difference to me.

just means racist jokes will get posted because theres no scare of red blobs...

[Barry123]

Like option 2 alot paul that was another issue with the rep

coopner and pred are amongst the most helpful guys on here

rem and adz are amongst the funniest

wtf... I'm helpful too

bad rep.


wait...

[Barry123]

man this blows dick... no longer 1st in Saxperience The Game, lost my medals, lost my fucking rep.

fuck you saxp.

[NickB]

that was just an example yea your helpful dude and your photography is fantastic....

[Barry123]

that was just an example yea your helpful dude and your photography is fantastic....

i love you x

[NickB]

aww loves you too adz *hugs* lol

[djrem]

Rem *hugs* rem.

awww thanks rem

no worries Chum x

[chris205]

well done for scrapping it, some goon neg repped me for posting a pic of my old car because it wasnt a saxo, tool!

Im sure whatever decisions you make are well thought about before hand so it benefits the community on a whole

*sorry im pissed btw*

[saxowebby]

nooooo, i finally made it to over 100

[djrem]

I'll put my hands up.
I rep back if theres a name just because.
I rep people who make me laugh.

Tbh thats not what the system is there for.

[Frosty]

I agree about the rep as i got negative rep twice reason given was ''prick'' ''total cock''

Not that i cared it amused me more than anything.. But i agree the rep system should be sorted with an alternative or bring it back with better, stricter rules :)

[craig180]

Good move Simo.

Does look a bit bare over there now though
<<<

[Elliott]

We need something to replace it. as saxo180 said, its bare!

[Barry123]

fucking gay... it wasn't a bad dream after all.

[Clouds_mate]

Think its a better move. Only read a few of the pages but i dont really see why rep means so much to people lol.

Long gone are the masses of PMs asking to remove rep. Whoop.

[djrem]

OMG
what we need is daily babe (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6f/Babe_ver1.jpg/200px-Babe_ver1.jpg) there

[Barry123]

Think its a better move. Only read a few of the pages but i dont really see why rep means so much to people lol.

Long gone are the masses of PMs asking to remove rep. Whoop.

leckie I have no job. I lived for rep.

[djrem]

Wow, just when you decided to stay in the education system for another 80 years.

[Barry123]

Wow, just when you decided to stay in the education system for another 80 years.

secretly i was going to get a job, a good job. this event has just compounded the fact I'm going to scrub off the tax payers for the rest of life.

[Simo]

I'll put my hands up.
I rep back if theres a name just because.
I rep people who make me laugh.

Tbh thats not what the system is there for.

Dude - you were one of the worst rep abusers out there... for the reasons you state above!

lmao

[Simo]

I agree about the rep as i got negative rep twice reason given was ''prick'' ''total cock''

Not that i cared it amused me more than anything.. But i agree the rep system should be sorted with an alternative or bring it back with better, stricter rules :)

Alternative 'thanking' systems are under review.

[djrem]

Dude - you were one of the worst rep abusers out there... for the reasons you state above!

lmao

Well im not denying it.

We should set an example.

Lets ban Jimo.

We'll all feel the lose.

Ive seen these Thank Buttons that work on other forums.

but then really, Do we need one?


PS. Update yout sig Simo. One of them links arent needed now x

[_ELECTABUZZ_]

fair enough sorry man.

[Jacko]

i think simo was jelous of ads rep...so he scrapped it.

[Giggz]

Was just getting my head round the green and red bars aswell.

Ahwell if its for the better I'm all for it.

[Peejous]

Rep was the only thing i had over Simo thats why he removed it.

Now what am I supposed to do with this???
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w110/Da_Peej/neg.jpg

[Tupps]

Tupps is a mod now?

Yah for Tupps.

Congratulations.

Thanks mate, i'll keep the spam and shit threads under control in general chat

saxp would also become full of spam and out of control :P

Pfffft

*Writes death note blaming Simo and Graeme*

My mam will know who you are, as my room is covered in sax-p posters and memorabelia

[Jonalong]

I really do agree with this tbh

[Peejous]

I really do agree with this tbh

I'd neg rep you for that

Does anyone remember these?

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gifhttp://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gifhttp://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gifhttp://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gifhttp://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gifhttp://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gifhttp://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gifhttp://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif

[Matty_Mills]

I quite liked the rep system actually... although i have to admit i would rep people simply for making me roar with laughter.
but then again that does earn rep in my eyes haha.
I think the bars that Simo mentioned right at the start of the thread is a good shout. Really does look horribly bare over to the left.

[Chris]

I'm over the moon with this decision as it will stop people sending us mods PM's asking if we could change the bad reps they had received etc...... Nice one Bigman!!!

Chris :)