Opps Ran a red light..

[Amiee]

Not that I do it often but, anyways.. there is a huuuge junction on the way home and on Friday last week I left work early and set off.. traffic wasnt too bad, but at this particular junction there are 3 lanes to go straight on..

Instict tells you to go in the lane with least amount of cars waiting.. Sooo I did!!

Sat at the red light and then all of a sudden there is a ambulance behind us, car infront of me goes to the right, and goes through the red light. I pull infront of the other lane of cars to the left to get out the way (thinking the ambulance was going straight on)

Now the ambulance wants to turn left, (how the fuck your supposed to see its indicators with its lights flashing ect I dont know!)

Anyways I had to pull even more forward to get out of the way, why he couldnt go round me I dont know.. sooo to cut a long story short I had to check for oncoming traffic, and shoot over the junction which is a mission!

There is cameras on these lights and Im pretty sure it would have clocked what I did, and meh knowing me ill get fine/points ect for running the lught.

Just wondered where I would stand with this? Because if It does come through I am not going to accept the fine/points whatever it is these days.

Thanks.. :y:

[Jordy6969]

I accidently ran a red light one time but this was down to a nine shift in mcdonalds and a lack of concentration

luckily the lights didnt have camera's on them and there was no traffic coming from either side

Felt like a right idiot after i'd realised

[VtsTom]

TS10, insurers hate it, apparently it shows your willing to take risks so they bump up the premium. That what they said to me any way. Try and fight it, worth a punt

[Steve]

ignore this.

[Robb]

I would simply explain the situation if you hear anything. If it escalated so much then they would have records of an ambluance travelling to that location or whatever...

[Amiee]

What im saying is if am going to be fighting it then will I get away with it, if it wasnt for the stupid ambulance I wouldnt have even dreamt of doing such a thing.

Why was it in the 4th right hand lane to go left ect?? see what im sayin.. ill have to get pic up of the junction..

[OLLYVTS]

Dont worry about it im sure you wont hear nothing back from it.

[betty02]

i very much doubt you will hear anything back tbh and if you do then you say there was an ambulance etc and you get away with it

[matt_vtr_15]

i have a ts10 which is what was commited by yourself... it sucks..

however as you where moving for the ambulance i would quote this if anything comes through.. just nip to your local cop shop and state what happened...

there is no way they can do you imo...

a ts10 is failure to comply with the traffic signals - however imo you had no choice....


you will be ok...

[Ryan]

What im saying is if am going to be fighting it then will I get away with it, if it wasnt for the stupid ambulance I wouldnt have even dreamt of doing such a thing.

Why was it in the 4th right hand lane to go left ect?? see what im sayin.. ill have to get pic up of the junction..

no one knows if you will win if you get a ticket over it, we dont make the laws.

Id say there will probably be no form of leniency for you from the way the judicial system works in the uk. get done for speeding and we will screw you over, get done for murder or rape, nah its ok we know you didnt mean it.

[Saxo_theedge]

My mate got flashed for jumping a light, nothing ever came of it. Never got anyhting through the post. been like a year now.

If it was for an amblulance like you say you should be able to fight your case.

[dannyhall]

TS10, insurers hate it, apparently it shows your willing to take risks so they bump up the premium. That what they said to me any way. Try and fight it, worth a punt

Agree. I ran a red light when I first passed my test. My insurance has always been an extra £300-400 more expensive than if I had no points. For example, for my 3yrs NCB I got a few months back, instead of £700, it was £1050.

But if you moved for the ambulance, then that should be on film too? So nothing should come of it..?

[Peejous]

From what I can remember, red light traffic camera's are only activated for when the lights change from amber -> red

They are activated by an induction loop in the road, which when a metal object crosses over it while the camera is active sets the camera off.

I only think the trigger time for the camera's is during the changing of the lights from amber to red, but not active while the lights are sat on red.

If you get me.

[Giggz]

Most cameras just flash but dont have film in, You should win this if you argue it tbh.

[Amiee]

Well lets hope I dont hear back from it, I was only asking for the possibility it does come through as I know the camera would have got me either way.

Wouldnt have thought it makes that much difference to insurance :omg:

Ryan - yes I agree, system is shit, I got points and fine for answering my phone in standstill traffic... YES I know I shouldnt of done it but I hadnt moved 10 yards in 30 mins :wall:

[Amiee]

From what I can remember, red light traffic camera's are only activated for when the lights change from amber -> red

They are activated by an induction loop in the road, which when a metal object crosses over it while the camera is active sets the camera off.

I only think the trigger time for the camera's is during the changing of the lights from amber to red, but not active while the lights are sat on red.

If you get me.

Hmmmmm Ta :)

[Peejous]

Also quick point.

Is the camera yellow?

Think they have to be by law, dont know if this is true for Red light cameras though.

[Robb]

Also quick point.

Is the camera yellow?

Think they have to be by law, dont know if this is true for Red light cameras though.

Dont think they do mate, all the traffic light cameras I have seen are grey...

[Amiee]

Nope they were black :geek:

[Andi9386]

The way I see it is you were doing what every motorist should do and moved out of the way of an Emergency Services Vehicle which was on an Emergency callout as it had the Blue lights flashing and headlights flashing.

Now what Amiee is saying is when they have the headlights flashing it is very difficult to see the vehcile's indicators, and so she had to move across the junction against her own instinct to let the vehicle pass her, and there was a Camera at the Junction.

Now we've got camera's up at certain Traffic light controled juctions but I think they only flash if you speed through a Red or Amber light, I could be wrong I'm just saying that's the way I see it.

[Amiee]

The said junction..
8446
Kinda see what I mean about crossing 4 lanes when it could have just gone in the far left lane, wasnt busy and wasnt much traffic anyways!

RED=ME lol

[Robb]

The said junction..
8446
Kinda see what I mean about crossing 4 lanes when it could have just gone in the far left lane, wasnt busy and wasnt much traffic anyways!

RED=ME lol

which car is your car? :D

[Amiee]

which car is your car? :D

Lols.... the red dot ;)

[Andi9386]

As far as I can see Amiee it was the Ambulance who was in the wrong there, if he was wanting to go left then he should've been in the filter lane or the left hand lane.

So IMO Amiee you were in the wright and you had to cross the junction against your will if you know what I'm saying.

[Peejous]

As far as I can see Amiee it was the Ambulance who was in the wrong there, if he was wanting to go left then he should've been in the filter lane or the left hand lane.

So IMO Amiee you were in the wright and you had to cross the junction against your will if you know what I'm saying.

Ambulance can go in what ever lane it likes (usually the one with the least amount of cars)

Even if as Amiee said the Ambulance was going left if there are less cars to move out of the way in the right lane then it'll use it.

[kenny]

i have a ts10 go me. Mine was because the lights changed to amber as i hit the line and the idiot police man said it was red :wall:

Anyway on topic. definatly dispute it as your doing the sensible option and moving for the emergency vehicles. the courts will accept your plea using their best judgment. well judges that have sense will do.

[Amiee]

TBH none of the lanes were really that heavily congested.. was 3/4 cars in each lane, and 2 in the lane i was in.

[Peejous]

TBH none of the lanes were really that heavily congested.. was 3/4 cars in each lane, and 2 in the lane i was in.

So is two not less than 3/4?

lol

[Amiee]

Yesh, but meh :P

[Baz]

surely it would also clock the ambulance aswell so should be ok really?

[Tim_W]

The driver of the emergency vehicle will chose whichever route through the lights/traffic they see as the quickest even if that means going down the wrong side of the road. It all depends on wether they are responding to a life threatening emergency or not.
Sadly it all depends on the region you live in and how lenient they are in regards to going through red lights to assist emergency vehicles. I read an article in the Daily Mail a while ago where a bloke was done for the exact same thing. When he got notification of his 'offence' he fought the case tooth and nail and still lost. He went as far as tracking down details of the ambulance crew, the emergency they were attending and even went as far as contacting the NHS trust responsible to help his case.
In a testament to the times we live in the NHS trust hung him out to dry. They said that even though he did a very good thing they couldnt back him. Their excuse was that you shouldnt go through a red light whatever the situation and that their crews are trained to deal with any delay and thus make up for any lost time further along the route. It may be an isolated case but it goes to show that they will do people for it.
To muddy the waters a little a law was passed a while ago that anyone obstructing an emergency vehicle could be reported by the crew and action would be taken by the police :panic:. What we are supposed to do in situations like this is anyones guess, its a case of damned if you do, damned if you dont. I think in your case its best to sit tight and wait untill you hear something (if you do) and then take it from there :y:.

My gut feeling is that nothing will come of this :y:

Tim

[furio-james]

Jumped a red by accident by magic rounderbout in Swindon on my first day of driving, 3 points and a £60 fine. Then about a month later I went through another one round a rounderbout and didnt even see it, and there happened to be an undercover police car behind me at 2 A'clock in the morning . . luckly he let me off or i would have lost my lisence! Bad times . . And no i am not colour blind :)

[baker556]

i dont see nothing coming of it tbh....but if it does you know your in the right and im sure you could prove it saying that ambulance was behind you might show up in the picture if one was taken !

[JC-Furio]

Just say you were in a hurry to watch Coro.

[PSPDan]

Shouldn't move out the way for emergency vehicles if you are putting yourself at unecessary risk by doing so. Or so I've heard.

Tbh I know people who have jumpedl ights by accident and never heard anything so touchwood you'll be fine.

[Andi9386]

The driver of the emergency vehicle will chose whichever route through the lights/traffic they see as the quickest even if that means going down the wrong side of the road. It all depends on wether they are responding to a life threatening emergency or not.
Sadly it all depends on the region you live in and how lenient they are in regards to going through red lights to assist emergency vehicles. I read an article in the Daily Mail a while ago where a bloke was done for the exact same thing. When he got notification of his 'offence' he fought the case tooth and nail and still lost. He went as far as tracking down details of the ambulance crew, the emergency they were attending and even went as far as contacting the NHS trust responsible to help his case.
In a testament to the times we live in the NHS trust hung him out to dry. They said that even though he did a very good thing they couldnt back him. Their excuse was that you shouldnt go through a red light whatever the situation and that their crews are trained to deal with any delay and thus make up for any lost time further along the route. It may be an isolated case but it goes to show that they will do people for it.
To muddy the waters a little a law was passed a while ago that anyone obstructing an emergency vehicle could be reported by the crew and action would be taken by the police :panic:. What we are supposed to do in situations like this is anyones guess, its a case of damned if you do, damned if you dont. I think in your case its best to sit tight and wait untill you hear something (if you do) and then take it from there :y:.

My gut feeling is that nothing will come of this :y:

Tim

You seem to have summed up there what we should or shouldn't do really.

Amiee lets hope nothing comes of this.

[Easty]

This is the view of the law, and not me, just so you know !

Even if an emergency vehicle is behind you / trying to get past you with blue lights & or sirens, you should not take any unnecassary risks / put others in danger.

Sadly by running a red light you have done just that, and I have known people who have gone through red lights in such situations and had their appeals thrown out, and had to pay nearly 10x the fine in court fees etc....

Get some independant legal advice if it comes through.

[Chr15]

Then you could argue if she stayed at the lights (therefore blocking the ambulance) that would have put somebody elses life in danger. If an accident had occured, charge her with dangerous driving. nothing did, slap on the wrist blah blah and off she goes.

grey area tbh