Rapid Hot Hatches???

[SaxoAlex]

Thinking about my next car. Zetec S just really isnt quick enough :homme:

When this policy expires, i wanna part-ex the ZS for something really quick.

Got a quote for £1600 on a Focus RS which seems ok.


Im just struggling to think of hot hatches that will really impress me with their speed.

Being thinking along the lines of

Focus RS
Astra VXR
Corsa VXR
Clio sports, 197s, 1*2s
Civic type R, EP3


What else is there????

I want something modern, so no VTS'/106 gtis.

Will have about 10 grand to spend including what i would get for the ZS. Give me some ideas :y:

[h12eay]

megane 225
evo/scooby?
a3 2.0t?
golf r32? lol i keep making this list bigger.
207 gti

[Danr]

Megannesport
ClioSport
Astra XVR
CorsaVXR
Focus ST
Golf GTI
PoloGTi
Mini Cooper S Works
Focus RS
Astra GSI
Civic Type R
206 GTi 180
Integra DC5

Seriously mate just go on pistonheads and have a look through.

[JC-Furio]

Leon cupra?

[SaxoAlex]

megane 225
evo/scooby?

megane 225 f1 would be lovely. As would a DC5. thing is arent all dc5s imported? so wouldnt they be a bitch to insure??


Cant get a descent quote on an evo/scoob unfortunatley :wall: would really love one

[h12eay]

could surely get a evo 5/6 for that price. and there the best shape imo

[dannyboy2005]

megane 225 f1 would be lovely. As would a DC5. thing is arent all dc5s imported? so wouldnt they be a bitch to insure??


Cant get a descent quote on an evo/scoob unfortunatley :wall: would really love one

Scooby's over rated imo.. Smashing looking cars though :P

[Danr]

They are all imported but look into it.

How old are you?

[h12eay]

evos: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=840&p=&d=0&min=&max=&y1=&y2=&txt=&px=&xsl=list&pagesize=15&filter=TP&o=q&pc=

megane 225 low mileage: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/754058.htm

s3?

[Graeme]

if I had that sort of money I would get a megane sport f1

[Marshy]

Leon Cupra K1 :D

[SaxoAlex]

They are all imported but look into it.

How old are you?

yeah dc5s are beautiful cars.

I will be 21 in january :y: insurance is still an issue, but i have found that more and more cars have become available to me recently.

Plus my new job is helping :y:

Does having an imported car affect the insurance dramatically?

[Ocego_VTR]

Scooby's over rated imo.. Smashing looking cars though :P

How are they over-rated??

[Ocego_VTR]

yeah dc5s are beautiful cars.

I will be 21 in january :y: insurance is still an issue, but i have found that more and more cars have become available to me recently.

Plus my new job is helping :y:

Does having an imported car affect the insurance dramatically?

yerr they do effect it lets say this my dad is 53 full ncb he did a quote on a impreza type r and it was £700 fully comp doing 6000 miles a year,

A uk version impreza is £450

[SaxoAlex]

Astra nurburgring is absolute sex aswell. Not over-keen on the megane 225.

Dont really want a massive car. Im kind of tempted by a corsa vxr and then getting one of the courtenay sport tuning packages with the money id save. http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=84

The stage 3 package can get it up to 240bhp!!!

[Ocego_VTR]

what about a focus st mate?

[Cal]

Astra nurburgring is absolute sex aswell. Not over-keen on the megane 225.

Dont really want a massive car. Im kind of tempted by a corsa vxr and then getting one of the courtenay sport tuning packages with the money id save. http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=84

The stage 3 package can get it up to 240bhp!!!Never liked the Astra VXR's tbh... whats the point in all that power if it can't put it to the road, handling is mediocre too. Megane over Astra any day of the week.

[SaxoAlex]

yeah. i see your point cal. Do astras struggle to put their power down then?

Whats the old 182 like for nippyness? Iv always liked the 1*2s. I would love a RB gordini 182 cup like yours and go all-out on the mods lol. Cams, ITBs lol.

Hmmmmmmmmm. decisions decisions. I kinda think that i might regret buying a big car like a megane or an astra. I think that something smal and chuckable might be more fun.

[wilksey]

Either a VXR corsa, Civic Type R or Clio trophy/2.0 sport

[Jamie]

Focus STs are good ( biased opinion lol) alot of bargains out there now :8( Astras struggle to get power down and handling is hmm different..

I couldnt insure what i wanted - M3 - scoob - evo so went for ST as after lots of test drives i found it to be the best out of the hatches i looked at (including Golf GTi 30th aniversary and Astra VXR)

My ST after remap (Dreamscience) is running around 270 BHP (225 std) cost me £320 to get that sort of bhp after xmas with a few mods ive been granted will be just over 300 very easy to get power out of and for some reason alot cheaper to insure over the VXR which isnt really any quicker..

[Mikey]

corsa vxr isnt a hot hatch. its a super mini mate.

astra vxr is good in a straight line, personally if insurance didnt matter i'd get a new shape r32 or a new shape audi s3.

[TypeRhys]

Cant go wrong with a Clio 182, cheap and uber quick (a to b).

[Colin]

Fiat 500 Abarth SS!

[Mikey]

Fiat 500 Abarth SS!

that deffo isnt a hot hatch. its like a go kart with a jet engine

[V5J]

Focus ST for sure

or a Golf R32!!

[Mattt-VTR]

Wouldn't get a clio sport/cup for the money you would pay.

[benJee_VTR]

not very new lol, but still a nice little hot hatch, Renault 5 GT Turbo

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5gtt-1.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5gtt.jpg

[SaxoAlex]

Mikey what do you mean its not a hot hatch? 190 bhp and 0-60 in 6.8 seconds isnt really anything to be embarased of.

Whats yours like? surely its pretty exciting?

[Krys_23]

Astra GSi Turbo, Cheap insurance (Cheaper than 172!! :O), Amazing sounding aswell and great looking cars.

[Mattt-VTR]

not very new lol, but still a nice little hot hatch, Renault 5 GT Turbo

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5gtt-1.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5gtt.jpg

Deffo, now they are fast!

:y:

[Krys_23]

not very new lol, but still a nice little hot hatch, Renault 5 GT Turbo

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5gtt-1.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5gtt.jpg

Awaits Flaming..

[Krys_23]

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/Krystewart9/Turbooo.jpg

[scottyvtr]

The new Punto GT Turbo

[alex19]

Corsa + z20let = 6000 ish.

[JRC1]

Get a Golf R32 :y:

[benJee_VTR]

Awaits Flaming..

lol why's that? what's wrong with them? I wouldn't mind one :P

Think tht one's for sale for 7 grand... it was just a shell and it was fully rebuilt :Y:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5.jpg

[dannygti]

clio v6

[Mattt-VTR]

lol why's that? what's wrong with them? I wouldn't mind one :P

Think tht one's for sale for 7 grand... it was just a shell and it was fully rebuilt :Y:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/benJee_VTR/ren5.jpg

Beast!!!

[JT97]

i wouldnt go for the clio sport
ive got loads of family and friends whove got them or had them and all they did was complain about how bad they were

[Yates]

wouldnt get a new r32, read they werent all that and they are struggling to sell them

[Certi]

EP3 or Clio 182/trophy would be my suggestion. Can pick up good examples of both for well under £10k and thay are great fun. DC5s are really good cars, but people ask silly money for them.

Mikey what do you mean its not a hot hatch? 190 bhp and 0-60 in 6.8 seconds isnt really anything to be embarased of.

Whats yours like? surely its pretty exciting?

Mikey is correct, they are super minis' not hot hatches. It's to do with the size of the car though, not the performance.

[Mk1VTR]

leon FR
leon Cupra
Evo 3,4,5,6
scooby
Fabia or octavia VRS remapped!!

the possibilities are endless mate!

[titchster]

Isnt the Clio 172 Cup supposedly the quickest outta the lot, bar the 197? Something to do with weight, thats what someone was raving on about when they were looking at getting one.

[Graeme]

Isnt the Clio 172 Cup supposedly the quickest outta the lot, bar the 197? Something to do with weight, thats what someone was raving on about when they were looking at getting one.


on paper that is right

but the 172 and 182 are both quicker than the 197

[Natalie]

Alfa 147 GTA

or the 156 GTA but it's not really a hot hatch

[leeroybrown]

mazda 323 4x4 turbo

[PADDY_J_VTS]

i agree wit the alfa they r rapid and you dnt see many about, you see loads of st's and things like that, i sue to have an st170 and loved it but cost me a fortune 2 run it and u have 2 use all the revs to get the power out of it.

[Karl]

Whats a VX220 go for nowdays?
Ferrari speed for not alot of wonga.

If you wanna be impressed with speed,
do not look at Clio Sports / Civic Type R's etc,
they're quick but theyre not stomach turningly fast.

[PADDY_J_VTS]

what about a sunny gtir pulsar, ya can get sum rapid ones of them, yeah they r old but by god they shift

[Karl]

Isnt the Clio 172 Cup supposedly the quickest outta the lot.

Yessur.

[Karl]

Clio Vee is a good shout.
Nice motors, lots of Wow factor, sound awesome.

[Ocego_VTR]

Focus RS maybe you can tune them quite well i hear.

[Danr]

Would be ph1 for the price though? Bit risky are they not?

[Karl]

Focus RS maybe you can tune them quite well i hear.

Good base spec in stock form. :D


@ Danr ~ i hear they are quite unreliable yeah,
Still, who doesnt stop and stare at a Clio Vee?

[Danr]

there's one parked by my mates house. I want to sex it.

[Pat_Vts]

mate has a focus rs as 336bhp iirc

rapid as ferk and a stunning car, recommended if your into keeping it for a very long time but i would have thought need to keep mileage down to hold value?

[leeroybrown]

Focus RS maybe you can tune them quite well i hear.

If you want the diff to drive you into a tree then kill you yeah...buy one

Mk1 v6 Dan = Dangerous.....killer in the wet

[Ocego_VTR]

If you want the diff to drive you into a tree then kill you yeah...buy one

Mk1 v6 Dan = Dangerous.....killer in the wet

lmfao i think the clio 182 would be the best buy you can get a low mileage one for about £7k now cant you??

[smiith]

Clio 197's look immence, and go well, very nice cars i think.

Id get one if i could

[Pat_Vts]

lmfao i think the clio 182 would be the best buy you can get a low mileage one for about £7k now cant you??

less its round 6k now

[Ocego_VTR]

less its round 6k now

jesus thats good value for money 2bh.

[leeroybrown]

I have seem them for 5k

[Tupps]

182's with good miles are going for 5-5.5k

Really dropped in price since the 197 + credit crunch

[Danr]

They are seriously cheap now. Ph2 172's can easily be had for £3k easily!

[David]

audi s3

[Pat_Vts]

best bargains are the ph1 172s theyre uber cheap £3k max for mint example

just for young people its insuring them but for coffin dodgers like leroy and tupps its ok for them to insure lol

[Dazza1]

Nice car the Clio Ph2 172 theres was one for sale near me FSH, Very tidy, 74,000 miles etc for £2,700. Im thinking for that price you cant go wrong!

My Dads got the Clio 182 which is a nice car, hes had a few little silly things wrong with it but apart from that its fine..(French Lol:P)!

Good luck with whatever car you choose:y:.

[leeroybrown]

Price have dropped, since i bought mine 2 years ago (182) prices have dropped something stupid like 3.5k.. something like £4.64 a Day!

[Karl]

Dunno if its been said,
but Slammed Saxo VTS?

[Pat_Vts]

yh a friend was telling me he got his 182 on finance for 12,000 4years ago

now his finance is almost finished and it isnt worth that much in comparision to what he paid

[leeroybrown]

Year... Would never pay 12k for a clio unless its a F1 or Trophy

[Pat_Vts]

Dunno if its been said,
but Slammed Saxo VTS?

like mine?

honestly though thinking of camming it

mate can fit for £100 and live map for £400

[Pat_Vts]

Year... Would never pay 12k for a clio unless its a F1 or Trophy

not too sure it was brand new back then...

iv got his facebook though its a clio 182

[Dazza1]

Thats got to be gutting time his paid for it!

[Karl]

... think about the poor sod that bought that m3 for 50k + now its worth 28k.........

lol.

Cars depreciate over time guys,
sad story. (in most cases.)

Another awesome hatch - EK9.
they float my boat.

[Ocego_VTR]

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/Ocego_vtr/ctrep3grey.jpg

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/629530.htm

good value for money.

[Karl]

Do the older ones have nicer rear lights the EP3s?

[Ocego_VTR]

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/Ocego_vtr/ctrimport.jpg

these ones Karl.?

[Dazza1]

If I was going Honda civic it would have to be Type-R Ek9 0-60 5.7 secs:y:..

[Ocego_VTR]

that one above is a jdm think they are around the same speed all round.

[leeroybrown]

Only on a 53 reg upwards dthey got the new lights Karl

[Karl]

The ones on that white one look a shed load better, the newer "crystal" style lights are horrible.
However, the front end is alot nicer on the facelift.

[Mikey]

Mikey what do you mean its not a hot hatch? 190 bhp and 0-60 in 6.8 seconds isnt really anything to be embarased of.

Whats yours like? surely its pretty exciting?

it is quick. but its to small the be labeled a hot hatch mate

[Mrk1]

You're not human if you don't love this!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/721412.htm

[Dazza1]

The Ep3 0-60 is 6.8 (200 bhp) still quick but the first one they made the Ek9 0-60 is 5.7(185 bhp) is quicker. I asume because its lighter. Very nice cars all round tho the Type-R;).

[Mikey]

You're not human if you don't love this!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/721412.htm

sexual

but again not a hot hatch dude ;)

[Ocego_VTR]

The Ep3 0-60 is 6.8 (200 bhp) still quick but the first one they made the Ek9 0-60 is 5.7(185 bhp) is quicker. I asume because its lighter. Very nice cars all round tho the Type-R;).

i think the jdm ep3 is alot quisker it has 220bhp and a diff.

[Dazza1]

You're not human if you don't love this!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/721412.htm

Very nice car, One day Lol:y:! Maybe buy the time I can afford the insurence etc I will be told old to get in and out of it Lol:P!!

[Mrk1]

True its not hatch but with 10k+ to play with why limit yourself to a hot hatch? (Yes im aware of the thread title)

[Karl]

This has been a debate on here before,
I've personally been in an EK9 and they are no way in hell in the 5's to 60 in standard form.
they sound and look awesome, but theyre really not that fast.


Just been on Pistonheads,
seen quite a few White JDM Civic EP3's.

Wow! Clio is not cutting it right now.

[Mikey]

if were getting bIg boys involved:

behold the best car ever made:

FAST
LOOKS GOOD
BUILT WELL
PRACTICAL

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa133/mikeyvts/632011-3.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa133/mikeyvts/632011-1.jpg

[Karl]

^ needs lowering.

[Mikey]

^ needs lowering.

4x4 :p

[Ocego_VTR]

dont start the big boys toys lol.

[Danr]

ha ha, the "Proper car" thread should be started...

[Mikey]

lol thread

rs4>m3

[Ocego_VTR]

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/Ocego_vtr/speccscoob.jpg

0-60 4.2 seconds 8000rpm limiter

lightweight panels

most probably the fastest thing you could buy for under £20k

[Mikey]

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/Ocego_vtr/speccscoob.jpg

0-60 4.2 seconds 8000rpm limiter

lightweight panels

most probably the fastest thing you could buy for under £20k

rather drive a slower cossie

just coz they are the dogs dangles

[Ocego_VTR]

LOL mikey, can't agree on that one 2bh.

[Danr]

Escort Cosworth with 8k's worth of engine mods.

*creams in little pink panties*

[Mikey]

LOL mikey, can't agree on that one 2bh. but i do love liverpool f.c.


true ;)

[Ocego_VTR]

true ;)

LMAO mikey.

[Karl]

whats so great about 8k rpm?
EP3's rev to nearly 9.......

[Ocego_VTR]

whats so great about 8k rpm?
EP3's rev to nearly 9.......

thats good for a 2.0 turbo flat four boxer.

[Mikey]

tbh scoobys are good cars. but live in evo's shadows.

the new evo 10 and the new scooby, prime example. evo rules

only scooby i'd buy is the RB or the 22b, p1

[leeroybrown]

Nice scooby that Graham.

Any day over any EVO.. to much electric shit in them these days

Never been a fan of type r's

RS4 is where its at

[Mikey]

Nice scooby that Graham.

Never been a fan of type r's

RS4 is where its at

FACT :hug:

[Karl]

Seriously not a scoob kind of guy.

[Ocego_VTR]

for an everyday car and class i would choose the rs4 everytime, for scaring the shit out of me, the scooby would be mine.

[Danr]

I'd only have a mint old one now running good bhp. Standard looking though.

It's when people put gash wheels on them that i start to get the hate going.

[Ocego_VTR]

I'd only have a mint old one now running good bhp. Standard looking though.

It's when people put gash wheels on them that i start to get the hate going.

I agree on that one, classics with the sti8 scoop is just gash imo.

[Mikey]

rs4 is quicker than a scooby

[Danr]

Depends which scooby Micky ;)

[Ocego_VTR]

rs4 is quicker than a scooby

depends which scooby.

sorry Danr lol.

[Mikey]

whats the biggest bhp standard scooby?

[Danr]

Is there an echo in here?

[Ocego_VTR]

whats the biggest bhp standard scooby?

415bhp

[Karl]

If I wanted to get to 60 in sub 5 seconds, Id go for an Exige.
+ have Nappies by the dozen, things are silly quick, built to handle also.

[Danr]

Karl, not a vx220 turbo? Think i'd prefer the vauxhall :S

[Mikey]

rs4=

4litre v8 twin turbo.

414bhp

4x4

[Ocego_VTR]

rs4=

4litre v8 twin turbo.

414bhp

4x4

RS4's are n/a

[Mikey]

yeah sorry my fault

they are a 32valve though

surely a lot more torque than a scooby

4.2 litre

[leeroybrown]

A Type 25 or a Spec C would dick on your RS4 Mikey

[Ocego_VTR]

well lets put it this way a subaru impreza wrx sti type r (classic shape) has 280bhp does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and a 150mph now this is a 11 year old car.

Audi RS4 0-60 is 4.8 and does 155mph with 414bhp.

[Danr]

Tbh though, Mikey would get soooo much more fanny. Scooby would get you loads of teens. RS4 would get you real women!

[Mikey]

A Type 25 or a Spec C would dick on your RS4 Mikey

yeah but its not all about speed,

theres comfort, style,

rs4 doesnt look like a chavs mobile imo

[leeroybrown]

Neither is a type 25

Best of everything

Recaros

Cosworth performance

Porsche brakes

Awesome

RS4 is for middle aged men

[Mikey]

Neither is a type 25

Best of everything

Recaros

Cosworth performance

Porsche brakes

Awesome

RS4 is for middle aged men

what the fcuk is a type 25 lol

i cant argue against sommet i dont even know lol

stop using engine names and codes you geek lol ;)

[Ocego_VTR]

LOL its a very highly spec'd impreza sti.

[Mikey]

still a scooby though

and a lass with never know what a type 25 is.

RS4 wins coz of that.

[leeroybrown]

Litchfield Imports do them

Video on You Tube

Awesome car

[Ocego_VTR]

2bh a bird wouldnt notice a RS4 between a A4 2.0t S-line

[Mikey]

yes babe i have a type 25 scooby.

shes just thinks....SHAGS HIS CAR AT NIGHT.

[Danr]

Our financial advisor is going to get a type 25 when the market sorts itself out.

He used to have that baby blue special edition scooby. Something to do with a rally win or something. That was quick supposedly.

[Danr]

2bh a bird wouldnt notice a RS4 between a A4 2.0t S-line

A real woman would notice the rs4. A younger girl would see the audi badge and cream/

Hence why Robb has a gf.

[Mikey]

2bh a bird wouldnt notice a RS4 between a A4 2.0t S-line

at least you wouldnt have to explain what it is

lasses know audis are good cars

[leeroybrown]

P1?

22B?

WR1?

Uk300?

Which one Dan

[Mikey]

plus they do a convertable rs4.

WOMEN WILL LICK YOU IN ANY PLACE WITH THAT CAR

[Ocego_VTR]

girls know scoobys are good cars aswel lol.

Audi has more class like.

[Mikey]

girls know scoobys are good cars aswel lol.

Audi has more class like.

i pointed out a smart scooby other day

my mrs said chav car.

end of lol i win

[Danr]

A WR1 Mr Brown. I never got a go :(

[leeroybrown]

And.....snobby cow :} lol....Joke

[Danr]

i pointed out a smart scooby other day

my mrs said chav car.

end of lol i win

says he who drives a bodykitted corsaaaaaa. ;)

[leeroybrown]

A WR1 Mr Brown. I never got a go

Used to be the quickest UK version until the RB320

[Mikey]

says he who drives a bodykitted corsaaaaaa. ;)

i was wating for that lmao class
imaginary rep

[Ocego_VTR]

i pointed out a smart scooby other day

my mrs said chav car.

end of lol i win

just because your bird said that doesnt mean any other bird would say that.

[leeroybrown]

I used to blow ladies shirts off with my flat 4 rumble

[Mikey]

just because your bird said that doesnt mean any other bird would say that.

wanna take this outside?

[Ocego_VTR]

I used to blow ladies shirts off with my flat 4 rumble

Was waiting fot that one haha.

[Danr]

wanna take this outside?

Mikey and Said Mrs....
http://regmedia.co.uk/2004/10/06/chavs.jpg

Wish i could of gone out in that Scooby. he sold it as i joined the company. Drives an Opel Zafira now. Piece of shit.

[Mikey]

i'd tap that

[Danr]

One at the front or the back?

[leeroybrown]

ANy scooby that says sti will be quick...awesome short gearbox and rev to 8k and still make power there to.

Went out in a 480 bhp a few weeks back....sucked my eyes into the back of my head

Exige any got shit on it

[Mikey]

One at the front or the back?

below the belt dan lol :p

[Danr]

I went out in a 330bhp evo 2 the other day. Nearly asked the driver to marry me... It's a girl before you start.

[Danr]

below the belt dan lol :p

well i wouldn't put it in her belly button.

Bu dum tush.

[leeroybrown]

I have been privledge to go in a FQ400 (limited edition) which was tweaked to 428 bhp...Lots of lack....but fuck me...when it unleashes it scary...proper violent gear changes and your physically pushed into the seat it so unreal...quickist thing I have been in

[Ocego_VTR]

I have been privledge to go in a FQ400 (limited edition) which was tweaked to 428 bhp...Lots of lack....but fuck me...when it unleashes it scary...proper violent gear changes and your physically pushed into the seat it so unreal...quickist thing I have been in

quicker than the 480bhp scoob??

[leeroybrown]

off the mark the scooby has it... also depends who maps it

Andy forest's maps are normally aggressive and in your face raw power

Were as Bob Rawles are evenly spaced out and less harsh

[Pat_Vts]

yh... and

what about those cheap imported delimited scoobs

cheap for the money? lol...

and 300bhp

[Ocego_VTR]

Andy forest is the king of tuning scoobys

[leeroybrown]

Depends on what shape it is...classic sti's are all imports and 280 standard

Standard imported wrx range from 240 - 260 bph

Can normally tell what the are by the colour of the seats and where the arieal is on the old models

[Ocego_VTR]

yh... and

what about those cheap imported delimited scoobs

cheap for the money? lol...

and 300bhp

My dads mate has just sold his was fucking rapid as fook 60 in like the low 4's

but he had alot of trouble with it.

[Danr]

So anyway Hot Hatches......

[leeroybrown]

They dont come in the form of a 206 gti thats for sure :}

[Danr]

gti180? I'd have one.

206gti? I have one, as warm as defrosted butter.

[scottyvtr]

206 gtiiiiiiiiiiiii's aint offensive if i didnt have the freeloader it would be either that or vts/106 Gti


or a older hot hatch!!! lol ;)

[Pat_Vts]

vts ftw kinda...

[Shak]

Get a Saxo/106 then £5500 and goto www.swatspeed.co.uk for the ultimate jap powered sleeper.

[scottyvtr]

jap crap pffft imho

[Shak]

jap crap pffft imho

How nieve! and that from someone who drive a 4x4. :homme:

[scottyvtr]

really ........ hehe if they were sooooooooooooooo amazing eveyone would have one just my opinion!!!!!


thats my point exactly cant remember the last time i seen a japcrap 4x4 kick the ass of a defender or freelander for that matter ssssssssshhhhhhhhh!!!!!

[Pat_Vts]

vts 4x4 kicks freelander/defender

[scottyvtr]

Muhahahahaha!!!!

[kris_westcoast]

want something small and chuckable and u weren't really botherd about top speed id say a renault sport twingo with a cup chassis, ive been out in one and god theyre chuckable and even in the wet they grip like nothing on this earth!
Bigger car's id say a focus rs though :D

[Timc_182]

mini cooper s JCW!

[CampDavid]

Focus RS is a classic and will keep it's value.

Meg R26 is amazingly fast. Really quite stonking

Clio Trophy is lovely

[dannygti]

agree there, the r26 is just about the best all round hot hatch of them all.
and yet so easy to tune... exhaust/filter/intercooler/remap and your at 300bhp.

[CampDavid]

agree there, the r26 is just about the best all round hot hatch of them all.
and yet so easy to tune... exhaust/filter/intercooler/remap and your at 300bhp.

Driven one with 285BHP. So much pace cross country it's untrue

[leeroybrown]

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Focus RS is a classic and will keep it's value.

You have just so gone down in my estimates

[Japman]

starlet turbo

[CampDavid]

You have just so gone down in my estimates

It'll hold its value better than any other hot hatch at that price point. Fact

[Japman]

rs4 wins out of page 7 argument full stop

[Adam_Q]

Clio V6???? That's rapid as fook!

[Pat_Vts]

too many hot hatches kicking round tbh

[daz_rt_04]

personally, if i was spending that much, it would have to be a turbo'd monster.

wouldnt bother with a 172/182....

Focus RS
Astra GSI Turbo
Exige
Honda S2000
Cooper-S
Mk 5 Golf
VX220
Cupra Leon
Megane R26
M3
Z-cars mini.

[titchster]

JDM EP3 Civic has been mentioned and forgotten, so I thought i'd bring it back... 220bhp and an LSD. More track orientated than the UKDM ones, got potential. Going cheap nowadays too.;)

[Danr]

Focus RS is a classic and will keep it's value.

You would think that but i am currently dealing with a guy that has just sold his. Book price was around £11k. He got 8.5k iirc. Didn't get many people at all over.

It had like 40k on the clock and was totally standard and mint. Nearly went to the bank after a viewing to buy it lol!

[Ash-VTR]

RS4 anyday lol

[Rallye-Rye]

starlet turbo

x1, serious little cars, when a few mods chucked at them.

[Danr]

x1, serious little cars, when a few mods chucked at them.

With 10k to play with i'm sure he can get something better than a starlett ha ha ha!

[Japman]

im not saying any different,just saying they are pocket rockets

[Karl]

Starlets can be stupidly quick.
Good motors, just not into the looks.

+1 Agree with Dave on the Focus RS.
Looovely.

[leeroybrown]

You would think that but i am currently dealing with a guy that has just sold his. Book price was around £11k. He got 8.5k iirc. Didn't get many people at all over.

It had like 40k on the clock and was totally standard and mint. Nearly went to the bank after a viewing to buy it lol!

Dont know how anyone can like these

[Karl]

1.) Looks nice.
2.) Relatively quick.
3.) Good base spec.

0-60 in 6.3
average 1/4 mile in 14.8
165bhp/tonne.

[Danr]

1.) Looks nice.
2.) Relatively quick.
3.) Good base spec.

4.) Has a classic status that makes people turn their heads?

They may have a few things wrong with them but for so many people to love them they must have something right?

[leeroybrown]

1.) Looks nice.
2.) Relatively quick.
3.) Good base spec.

Not my cup of tea, then one i drove was with one with all the nickley parts uprated and was a later one...Would hate to have owned a earlier one

[Karl]

What was up with it Lee?

[leeroybrown]

Just saying I aint a fan.....

Mate paul has one, Full system exhaust, uprated intercooler, Dream science etc, put your foot down, power comes in and the diff just goes crash and goes where it wants normally headign straight for the kerb....did this standard to......

[Tupps]

Alex's thread

Alex says -

Being thinking along the lines of
Focus RS

Doesn't matter what WE think of the cars

[Japman]

Just saying I aint a fan.....

Mate paul has one, Full system exhaust, uprated intercooler, Dream science etc, put your foot down, power comes in and the diff just goes crash and goes where it wants normally headign straight for the kerb....did this standard to......


cat abcd

shouldnt be on the road tbh

[CampDavid]

cat abcd

shouldnt be on the road tbh

Has a diff, will be a bit wild under throttle, especially if the tracking is out.

[Tupps]

Got a good budget for a hot hatch, why not go for something like a Trophy and have loads of change

[Cal]

Got a good budget for a hot hatch, why not go for something like a Trophy and have loads of changeTupps makes a good point for a special person

[Karl]

+1 for trophy,
sex on Turini's.

[Danr]

I want a cliosport. Kind of realised is this morning driving to work.

Buying a 206 - iFail

[Karl]

Do it Dan.
makes more sense than breathing.

[CampDavid]

Trophy is in my sights. Need to shift the GTI-6 first.

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=93992&page=1

Bargainous

[Danr]

Do it Dan.
makes more sense than breathing.

the only thing putting me off is the overall size of them. Not for me but when i go out with my homies and on viewings etc. Could be a problem... but then again fuck em.. BWWWAAARRRPPPPP!

[Karl]

Dan, fair point.
do not buy one with trophy recaros.
the leg room is minimal.
Verrrry minimal.
I dont think a 6 year old could sit behind me.
...not that i give lifts to six year olds :D


...If you want to shuttle people around all the time, perhaps a 1*2 isnt for you, maybe you'd be best with a Ford Galaxy. :P

[Danr]

I think i may save and save and save and buy a 197 f1 in a year or two. Run the 206 into the ground etc.

[Karl]

Good call,
said that too the mrs,
Keep the Clio/Sell and downgrade.
Wait til the time is right and pounce on a 6/7k 197 Cup.

[Danr]

That's the plan bro. 206's have plummeted since i bought one. gti180 was about 7k when i bought my 138. 180's can be had for sub 4k now for a decent one :(

[mattchewone]

That's the plan bro. 206's have plummeted since i bought one. gti180 was about 7k when i bought my 138. 180's can be had for sub 4k now for a decent one :(

You should of bought a Corsa Dan lol :y:

[Karl]

Oh yeah.
Corsa C on Pipers rollers ~ Super car bhp imo. lol.

[Danr]

ha ha, bought a corsa. New one comes out. Bye bye value ha ha ha!

[Tupps]

Good call,
said that too the mrs,
Keep the Clio/Sell and downgrade.
Wait til the time is right and pounce on a 6/7k 197 Cup.

That was my plan... landed myself a house int he new year though

Get something cheap aka shit for 6 month and spend loads making the house ikea

Or just save wages etc and have a nice car aswell

[Danr]

Make house Ikea Tuppence. Always make the house.

[leeroybrown]

Cant go wrong with a trophy Dan......

[Danr]

Again, little bit to small Leeroy.

Would prefer the F1 anyway tbh. They look the tits.

[mattchewone]

Oh yeah.
Corsa C on Pipers rollers ~ Super car bhp imo. lol.

No no no corsa on rollers - hyper car! lol

ha ha, bought a corsa. New one comes out. Bye bye value ha ha ha!

nothing wrong with that means you can pick them up cheaper lol :)

[saxo2005]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/773503.htm

182 with added punch ;)

[Cal]

All that money spent and none on the suspension? ^^

[saxo2005]

Ok ignore that one then, hows about....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/704519.htm

;)

[saxo2005]

Thinking about my next car. Zetec S just really isnt quick enough :homme:

When this policy expires, i wanna part-ex the ZS for something really quick.

Got a quote for £1600 on a Focus RS which seems ok.


Im just struggling to think of hot hatches that will really impress me with their speed.

Being thinking along the lines of

Focus RS
Astra VXR
Corsa VXR
Clio sports, 197s, 1*2s
Civic type R, EP3


What else is there????

I want something modern, so no VTS'/106 gtis.

Will have about 10 grand to spend including what i would get for the ZS. Give me some ideas :y:


Would have to say Type R or Focus RS.. Look what your money gets ;)

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/724434.htm

[Pat_Vts]

car for the £££

cant miss a clio sport

simple...

[Japman]

car for the £££

cant miss a clio sport

simple...

whilst in the sauna last night i was watching DAVE channel and clarlkson was testing the clio sport

he didnt think it was up to much at all,also the thing was like a fuking tripod lol

[leeroybrown]

he didnt think it was up to much at all,also the thing was like a fuking tripod lol

And what did he say at the end he loved it.

Was the way it makes you feel when driving it...makes you smile

[Danr]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/775715.htm

Worth an offer?

[Cal]

whilst in the sauna last night i was watching DAVE channel and clarlkson was testing the clio sport

he didnt think it was up to much at all,also the thing was like a fuking tripod lolBuild quality and driving position he didn't like, I'm 5.7 so I don't care... and haven't had a problem with mine apart form general wear and tear.

The cars it beats round the track speak volumes... Focus ST, Lotus Elise, Boxster, CTR to name but a few.

[Mikey]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/775715.htm

Worth an offer?

i reckon you would get that for under 10 easily.

you looking into buying one dan?

[Danr]

I'm looking into my options as i should be debt free next year.

Looking at these, Megane 225's, clio f1's and audi tt's.

if not i'll save the cash and get something like an older ibiza cupra.

[leeroybrown]

BLUE 225 F1 Dan with black wheels and the blue and black recarco's

Thats one to have Dan

[Mikey]

the only reason i'd have one over the f1 clio is its more tunable. other than that there the same car imo. look very similar, same speed roughly.

[Danr]

it's an option Mr Brown. I really like black 225's tbh. After sitting in an r26 i kind of fell in love with them. None around my local area either!!!!

[CampDavid]

The F1 225 is no where near the F1 230

[leeroybrown]

Trophy model would be a good bet to

Only come in Silver though

[Danr]

The F1 225 is no where near the F1 230

That means absolutely nothing to me Mr Camp?

[Danr]

Trophy model would be a good bet to

Only come in Silver though

Prob a bit expensive tbh mate.
You can get a 225 for 6/7k at the moment.

[leeroybrown]

OF course with it crap diff thats as lazy as a fat kit....excellent

Prob a bit expensive tbh mate.
You can get a 225 for 6/7k at the moment.

Has to be either

Cup
Trophy
F1

the early ones are just shit...

[Mikey]

lee i dont thank that matters really. about the diff lol

[leeroybrown]

Na for me I still like the first F1 they brought out

[Danr]

Has to be either

Cup
Trophy
F1

the early ones are just shit...

They are still quick and look alright. Depends how much money i can sort really.

[leeroybrown]

You know its a clio you want :}

[Graeme]

on way home from M.E.N last night i saw a yellow megane convertable F1 in the show room looked pretty funky

[Danr]

You know its a clio you want :}

I'd happily have a new one. The old ones are to small for me :(

Getting a bit of a puffy one over this....
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/504820.htm

[leeroybrown]

Thats the one Dan

You get some carbon fibre bits inside to

[Danr]

Thats the one Dan

You get some carbon fibre bits inside to

Well that's settles it then ;)

[CampDavid]

The 230 F1 gets Recaros, a couple more BHP and most importantly the diff, which pulls it roundthe corner. Gives it fuck loads more pace

[CampDavid]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/735774.htm

Still pricey though