Big error!

[VTR_paddy]

so basically i was 17, and i was driving a 1.2 clio. life was good, i had my first car and the world was mine for the taking, well thats how it felt. anyways.
BAD TIMES ! my sister stack my clio on the motorway. bye bye clio (shep) me and shep had good times.

and then came along
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t99/bellair89/vtr1.jpg
my VTR. suddenly i found my self becoming addicted to anything saxo.
cut a long story short i LOVED that car, and i made a big ERROR.

i sold it and got a 2.0L zetec focus. yeh its sweet, its fast, smooth blah bla blah, but it misses one of the most important things for me. FUN. i dnt feel like a 12 year old boy when i drive my focus, i feel like i should have a baby on board sticker and a fold out pram.

so enough is enough. i have saved and saved. and im getting my saxo back! well not mine some old lady has it now, but im getting a VTS. stripping it out and turning it into a track car, what are your opinions on making a vts into a track car, and if so, any ideas what you would do to it?

sorry for the essay, but meh!

[James]

Have you ever driven on track?

[Ryan]

spec list id go for on a track car if you have a nice budget :P

TU5J4 1.6 16v
Emerald M3D ECU with shed motorsport adapter loom
All unused wires in engine bay removed
Baffled peugeot sport sump
Mocal oil cooler with thermostat
Polished and balanced crankshaft
New bearings all round
Rebore
Steel H section conrods
ARP rod bolts
High compression kit car pistons
Enlarged inlet and exhaust valves
Head ported to suit bigger valves and match inlet & exhaust systems
Solid camshaft followers
Double Stronger Valve springs
Catcams 803 cams
Maxi(S1600) exhaust header
2.5" stainless exhaust system
Maxi individual direct to head throttle bodies
Long polished trumpets
Larger pico injectors
Peugeot sport grpN engine mounts
Lightened and balanced flywheel
VTS fuel system setup

Transmission:

Valeo OE VTS clutch, brand new, quivvering with fear
S2 Rallye gearbox rebuilt with brand new citroen synchro rings, bearings, with uprated input shaft bearing, new seals etc
Quaife ATB differential with new bearings.
VTS driveshafts

Chassis:
2002 VTR chassis
Full 10 point OMP roll cage with door bars
Scuttle removed
Upper sparco strut brace, painted black
Lower OMP strut brace

custom spec faulkners, lowering 20-25mm roughly.
Peugeot sport grpA front dampers to match
Uprated wishbone bushes on new wishbones
New droplinks
New track rod ends
Power steering removed
Rear beam refurbished with new double bearings
Polyrace solid beam bushes
22mm peugeot sport torsion bars(standard are 19mm)
24mm rear anti roll bar(france are out of 25s at the mo)
GrpN Bilstein rear dampers
Shed motorsport toe settings

Wheels & Brakes:
15" VTS alloys with 195/50 Toyo R888s fitted
15" 205 1.9 GTI wheels with toyo proxies- falkens
306 GTi6 front brake calipers
Brembo 283mm front discs
Mintex M1155 front pads
OE mintex rear discs and pads
Goodridge braided hoses all round
406 23.8mm master cylinder
DOT 5.1 fluid thoroughly flushed through
Brake bias valve tweeked.

Bodywork & exterior:
Debadged boot, dewipered with wiring stripped out
Procomp carbon fibre bonnet with inner frame removed
Aerocatches for bonnet
Streamline carbon Fibre mirror caps
Mk1 rear lights
Fog lights removed & meshed
Storm single wiper conversion(temp measure)

Interior:

Stripped of all sound deadening & carpet
All unused wiring removed right back to fuse box and beyond.
VTS dials fitted with oil temp and coolant temp wired up to them.
TIM oil pressure and temp gauges in carbon panel
Window switches, fan override switch and hazard switch relocated to above
Momo steeringwheel
gauges in carbon panel.
Glovebox removed
heater fan etc removed
Carbon composite "rudi" front doorcards
S2 106 lower door bins
Recaro bucket seats
Black LUKE 4 point harnesse

[AM4R]

IF hes got the funds Ryan :P

[James]

Ryan, the biggest ASW in the world.

edit : Assuming thats your spec

[djrem]

spec list id go for on a track car if you have a nice budget :P

TU5J4 1.6 16v
Emerald M3D ECU with shed motorsport adapter loom
All unused wires in engine bay removed
Baffled peugeot sport sump
Mocal oil cooler with thermostat
Polished and balanced crankshaft
New bearings all round
Rebore
Steel H section conrods
ARP rod bolts
High compression kit car pistons
Enlarged inlet and exhaust valves
Head ported to suit bigger valves and match inlet & exhaust systems
Solid camshaft followers
Double Stronger Valve springs
Catcams 803 cams
Maxi(S1600) exhaust header
2.5" stainless exhaust system
Maxi individual direct to head throttle bodies
Long polished trumpets
Larger pico injectors
Peugeot sport grpN engine mounts
Lightened and balanced flywheel
VTS fuel system setup

Transmission:

Valeo OE VTS clutch, brand new, quivvering with fear
S2 Rallye gearbox rebuilt with brand new citroen synchro rings, bearings, with uprated input shaft bearing, new seals etc
Quaife ATB differential with new bearings.
VTS driveshafts

Chassis:
2002 VTR chassis
Full 10 point OMP roll cage with door bars
Scuttle removed
Upper sparco strut brace, painted black
Lower OMP strut brace

custom spec faulkners, lowering 20-25mm roughly.
Peugeot sport grpA front dampers to match
Uprated wishbone bushes on new wishbones
New droplinks
New track rod ends
Power steering removed
Rear beam refurbished with new double bearings
Polyrace solid beam bushes
22mm peugeot sport torsion bars(standard are 19mm)
24mm rear anti roll bar(france are out of 25s at the mo)
GrpN Bilstein rear dampers
Shed motorsport toe settings

Wheels & Brakes:
15" VTS alloys with 195/50 Toyo R888s fitted
15" 205 1.9 GTI wheels with toyo proxies- falkens
306 GTi6 front brake calipers
Brembo 283mm front discs
Mintex M1155 front pads
OE mintex rear discs and pads
Goodridge braided hoses all round
406 23.8mm master cylinder
DOT 5.1 fluid thoroughly flushed through
Brake bias valve tweeked.

Bodywork & exterior:
Debadged boot, dewipered with wiring stripped out
Procomp carbon fibre bonnet with inner frame removed
Aerocatches for bonnet
Streamline carbon Fibre mirror caps
Mk1 rear lights
Fog lights removed & meshed
Storm single wiper conversion(temp measure)

Interior:

Stripped of all sound deadening & carpet
All unused wiring removed right back to fuse box and beyond.
VTS dials fitted with oil temp and coolant temp wired up to them.
TIM oil pressure and temp gauges in carbon panel
Window switches, fan override switch and hazard switch relocated to above
Momo steeringwheel
gauges in carbon panel.
Glovebox removed
heater fan etc removed
Carbon composite "rudi" front doorcards
S2 106 lower door bins
Recaro bucket seats
Black LUKE 4 point harnesse

Are we gonna see some pics of your set-up Ryan?

[Ryan]

Ryan, the biggest ASW in the world.

edit : Assuming thats your spec

If i was an ASW id have a project thread on it ;)

[James]

If i was an ASW id have a project thread on it ;)

You don't have a progress thread because it does not excist, I know your type. You go around the car forums.. select nice parts of other engines and add them to your spec list.

Random fact... i love fizzy haribo.

[Ryan]

You don't have a progress thread because it does not excist, I know your type. You go around the car forums.. select nice parts of other engines and add them to your spec list.

Random fact... i love fizzy haribo.

Jar i like my theoretical spec lists. :afro:

[VTR_paddy]

well i dnt think i can afford all that.

ok basically i want a saxo again. i still have my focus, so i thought i might aswell make a track car.
and i havnt ever driven track before. apart from my focus round the top gear test track once. lol

[Ryan]

vts, upgrade the brakes, and suspension.

add a decent cage and some buckets.

learn to drive fast on track then think about going bigger power. can be done on a budget easily.

[James]

well i dnt think i can afford all that.

ok basically i want a saxo again. i still have my focus, so i thought i might aswell make a track car.
and i havnt ever driven track before. apart from my focus round the top gear test track once. lol

I'd advise doing a couple of trackdays and then improving what you feel needs improving before you go into it all guns blazing. Everyone has different driving styles etc..

[VTR_paddy]

there shud be info already on here about getting a race license / track days?

[Karl]

Brakes and a good sus setup are a nice start.

Brakes first imo ~

[Barry123]

Brakes and tyres.

leave everything else really.

[Karl]

Bar the brake setup a standard VTS is a pretty ideal base for a cheap fun track day for a novice.

not tear your face off quick,
nippy. Handle well, easy to get a feel for being quite a raw car.

[Barry123]

how's the ABS on those puppies???

[Ryan]

there shud be info already on here about getting a race license / track days?

he didnt ask about a race licence, just wanted to know peoples thoughts for track toys.

[VTR_paddy]

he didnt ask about a race licence, just wanted to know peoples thoughts for track toys.

yeh i know, but i wasnt going to make a track car to use for the school runs. lol anyways thanks for all ur comments guys. think ill go for the route of doing a few track days with it standard and see how i feel from there.