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Jazz
18th December 2008, 17:17
Evening all. Firstly- Jap car haters don't bother with this thread, you'll hate it. Thanks, have a nice day.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jazz_360/WRXPPP.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jazz_360/WRXPPPpic2.jpg
How it looked after our, ahem, test drive.

Now for the rest of you lot, here is a write up of this unassuming mid-sized family saloon I tested this afternoon at a Subaru Main dealer in West Horsley, Sussex. It is a 2003 Subaru Impreza WRX PPP, which included a few small Prodrive upgrades like a growly exhaust and some ECU tweaking, and as a result power jumps from a pretty chilly 222bhp to a hot and spicy 261bhp, which puts this thing right up to standard STi levels. Peak torque in the WRX is now 257lb ft at 3500rpm, which is higher than a normal STi’s 243 at 4000 rpm. Interestingly Prodrive present a 0-60 mph time of just 4.8 seconds, while the STi is 5.2, which goes to show how effective the input of Prodrive has been to evolving these vehicles.

On appearance, it’s admittedly not the sexiest thing since Jessica Jane Clement, but then Subarus are not about sizzling design or tarty curves, they leave that to the Alfa’s of this world to do. No, Scooby’s are all about the driving experience, and on that front, they deliver more often than not. And this car is a fine example of that. The forecourt was full of big-winged racey STi’s and a few butched up Foresters, so this little WRX, with its modest 17 inch alloys and subtle rear spoiler was tucked away in a corner quietly, but on the road, it showed me what it was really all about.

Right, first thing is first. Subaru salesmen are NUTTERS, that is now official. The friendly chap who took me out firstly knew the car from top to bottom, and he explained that he would take me for a drive to ‘demonstrate’ the performance of the car. After patiently allowing it to warm up, off we went- and this particular chap was a very good driver. He explained that he and his colleagues are taught how to properly drive these cars with dedicated training, and it really showed.

The growl of the boxer engine, amplified by the beefy exhaust was music to my ears, it always reminds me of a pseudo American Muscle car, although sadly once you’re going for it you don’t tend to notice it much anymore, it sort of blends in.

Right, enough details. Was it quick? Like, seriously, properly quick? Well quite simply- Yes. It was a bit of an animal beneath that subtle styling. Power was available throughout the rev range (mainly from 3k) and even at the top end revs it didn’t seem to run out of steam. It took a while to get used to a few things though a) That bonnet scoop is something I’m not used to and was a tad distracting at times, but given time I would get acquainted with it and b) the clutch has a very short travel, so quite a few times I was over revving it while trying to crawl forward. But that again, is something I’d get used to. 60mph seemed to just come and go like that, and it was so easy to get it to just surge forward. Plenty of poke then.

The handling was even better though. Admittedly, the steering didn’t have the same meaty feel as my Honda, but it was still good and responsive, and the chassis was nothing short of excellent. To put it into context, I chucked it round a sharp corner (on the salemans instructions), he told me to keep on the throttle, but I bottled and let my foot up for a second and the tail came out beautifully. It clipped the grass and I could hear gravel spitting against the bodywork, and I felt like a rally driver. It was a bit unexpected though, but I nailed it again, applied opposite lock accordingly and fixed it with some messy manoeuvring- first time I’d ever done that. This car showed me just how much of a rookie driver I was, it sometimes takes a really focussed driver’s car to make you realize that. I felt like the WRX was laughing at me, and saying “is that all you got son?” I was trying and I couldn’t hit more than about 60mph through the narrow, twisty lanes we went on. The salesman later told me he is regularly able to hit three figures through there, which made me feel like even more of a rookie.

The bottom line is that this is a superb-handling, planted and very rapid little weapon, and yet unlike a STi you would never know, its subtle styling doesn’t really give much away. Even the seats were comfortable, the ride was compliant and it was civilized when it needed to be.

This car makes me even more sad that Subaru have pulled out of WRC, the genetics are so obvious in the WRX PPP. I have been a massive fan of my Accord Type R since I got it, but now I’ll admit I have found a reasonably priced unmodified car that beats it hands down for driver appeal. Nothing is perfect though- interior wasn’t as good as the focus ST I recently drove, steering wasn’t as meaty as my Honda, and the brake pedal lacked the bite I was expecting. But for fun factor, I’ve never been in another car that has given me such an adrenaline rush. And by simply looking at it, you would never know the beast that lies within.

Verdict- Simply excellent. It does just what you’d expect a Scooby Turbo to do and more. 9/10

Comments welcome.

Karl
18th December 2008, 17:33
Enjoyed reading that boss.
Small spoilers on Scoobs do look shit though ;)

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 17:37
Lacks the sti box tbh

I love mine and still do them

You dont buy a scooby subtle styling Jazz

Aggressive looking sti ftw

Jazz
18th December 2008, 17:38
Enjoyed reading that boss.
Small spoilers on Scoobs do look shit though ;)

Cheers bud.

Some STi styling and it would be pretty much perfect, agree with you Lee.. Regardless of looks it drove pretty damn well.

smiith
18th December 2008, 17:39
Lacks the sti box tbh

I love mine and still do them

You dont buy a scooby subtle styling Jazz

Aggressive looking sti ftw

Correct! you have to have the big spoiler, STI bumpers, and a nice roaring exhaust

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 17:41
Yeah its ok for the base model....

Stil comes with most things to get decent power...wrx doesnt really

Good review

Brakes aint the best on a scooby...even the 4 pots on the classics aint good

But the brembo's you get on that model these days are spot on

TypeRhys
18th December 2008, 17:46
Great review there buddy.

Make sure you stick that on atr.org !

Jazz
18th December 2008, 18:07
Thanks Rhys, will post it shortly :y:

Leeroy- yeah it certainly missed the Brembos of the STi, felt like it could do with some more stopping power. The salesman overtook a red saxo on a single lane road while he was still braking lol..

pug205gti87
18th December 2008, 18:21
haha very nice thread! i really want a subaru and one day will have the money me thinks!

Mr_X
18th December 2008, 18:24
Good write up, scoobys are so cheap nowadays.

Very tempted to go for one.

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 18:26
Can be made into a right weapon in the correct hands

None of just sticking exhausts, filters and turbos etc with out having it mapped...running lean is a big problem for these engines...even putting an exhaust in can do that

shooorn94
18th December 2008, 18:29
. The salesman overtook a red saxo on a single lane road while he was still braking lol..

So that was you! :p

Another great review jazz, enjoyed reading that. As a daily driver though are they worth it constantly see them now on m roads doing a commute? Did he quote the mpg figure of that model I know that some boxer engines can be pretty efficient for doing the 0-30 around town speeds?

Completely agree with the american muscle car noise, and there's nothing better :y: good review.

Jamie
18th December 2008, 18:37
Insurance stopped me, I was about to buy my mums same as that but blue with 15k miles from new i know everything about the car,

6k insurance? NO

Settled for my ST which is very quick but doesnt have the same appeal to me.

That scoop is distracting when driving i kept looking at it instead of the road lol.

God i really wish i had one instead :(

Insurance wankers .

Nice write up btw

Jazz
18th December 2008, 18:45
Thanks for the replies people. Had the day off work so I decided I'd phone up a dealer and have a chat about their stock. An hour or so later I'm 48 miles away, having a burn in a Prodrive Scooby. Must say, had great customer service, they were all completely friendly and helpful.

I was a bit sceptical as a fair bit of hype surrounds these cars, with the Focus ST I had massive hopes but it didn't really do it for me personally, but this car lived up to expectations and more, I really didn't expect a WRX to be this good.. Focus ST had it beaten on cabin, comfort and toys, Scoob wasn't as well specc'd but was a sportier drive.

Need a shot in a proper STi now, I hear they're even better... :P

Shoorn-around 26mpg which I think is fine given how quick it is.

Jamie- thanks bud, if only ford sold the ST with the power you've got! :y: Btw- 6k insurance?! How come? I can get insured in a WRX for about 2.5k if I was to buy it now, and I'm not even 21 yet.. Might get a similar Scoob to this (or STi depending on insurance) next summer.

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 18:48
Love the read exactly the same as my dads but in blue we have installed grooved and drilled discs with some red stuff pads so thats not bad 2bh.

Subtle stying does suit these better imo less in ya face if you get me, and still you can these to a safe 280 BHP thats another 20bhp you could play with

Jamie
18th December 2008, 18:50
Thanks for the replies people. Had the day off work so I decided I'd phone up a dealer and have a chat about their stock. An hour or so later I'm 48 miles away, having a burn in a Prodrive Scooby. Must say, had great customer service, they were all completely friendly and helpful.

I was a bit sceptical as a fair bit of hype surrounds these cars, with the Focus ST I had massive hopes but it didn't really do it for me personally, but this car lived up to expectations and more, I really didn't expect a WRX to be this good.. Focus ST had it beaten on cabin, comfort and toys, Scoob wasn't as well specc'd but was a sportier drive.

Need a shot in a proper STi now, I hear they're even better... :P

Shoorn-around 26mpg which I think is fine given how quick it is.

Jamie- thanks bud, if only ford sold the ST with the power you've got! :y:

Jamies always been a scoob fan i know what they are capable of as i grew up with a mum whos had 3 so always loved them lol.

You need to have a go at a more powerful Orange ST though lol

Insurance sucks :(

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 18:51
Love the read exactly the same as my dads but in blue we have installed grooved and drilled discs with some red stuff pads so thats not bad 2bh.

Subtle stying does suit these better imo less in ya face if you get me, and still you can these to a safe 280 BHP thats another 20bhp you could play with

Only from a map..and a standard td04 thats about the limits...advantage with td04 quick spoil up

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 18:51
Insurance stopped me, I was about to buy my mums same as that but blue with 15k miles from new i know everything about the car,

6k insurance? NO

Insurance wankers .

Nice write up btw

What age were you then??

Jamie
18th December 2008, 18:52
what now? im 21 mate:)

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 18:53
Only from a map..and a standard td04 thats about the limits...advantage with td04 quick spoil up

it's enough for the road anyway, my dads mate had a 300+bhp classic jdm as much as it was a fucking hooligan in your face nutter it did lack the 5th gear 30 mph smoothness instead it was just roaring to go faster.

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 18:53
what now? im 21 mate:)

when you were looking for insurace on one??

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 18:54
get the smoothness back if it was and sti close ratio box

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 18:55
what now? im 21 mate:)

Aplan
Green light
Keith Michaels

All the best bet

Jamie
18th December 2008, 18:56
when you were looking for insurace on one??

I was just 21 when i was looking to insure one,

My insurance has always been bad,

Im just living in a shite area that does it i think,

3yrs driving
3yrs no claims

3 points thats all

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Lee ive tried all the searches under the sun, no one would touch me i was lucky to get 2k on this, even now i cant get the same quote, usually start at 4k

If my renewal is more expensive this will be gone next yr

Jazz
18th December 2008, 18:56
For about £2.5k, Powerstation can give a WRX another remap, full Milteck exhaust system with sports-cat/de-cat and a VF34 Turbo upgrade, which apparantly see's around 315bhp at the fly. That would be pure intoxication in a car like that... its what I'd consider doing if/when I get one.

Jamie dude, insurance on the ST must be pretty massive for you with the sort of power you're pushing right now.. surely can't be any cheaper than a WRX...?

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 18:57
should have got it to at least £1.5k, i get qouted £2k at 20 with 2 years ncb :S

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 18:58
get the smoothness back if it was and sti close ratio box

imports have different gearboxes anyway dont they (on classics)

wilksey
18th December 2008, 18:58
Really good read mate.

Jamie
18th December 2008, 18:59
should have got it to at least £1.5k, i get qouted £2k at 20 with 2 years ncb :S

Jesus, if i could i would, seriously i tried hard as i just wanted one

I could have had a great spec scooby and money in pocket over the ST

Btw im not saying my own car is shit its far from it very fast but i wanted a scoob ;)

TypeRhys
18th December 2008, 18:59
For about £2.5k, Powerstation can give a WRX another remap, full Milteck exhaust system with sports-cat/de-cat and a VF34 Turbo upgrade, which apparantly see's around 315bhp at the fly. That would be pure intoxication in a car like that... its what I'd consider doing if/when I get one.

I have been to powerstation, a very good setup imo :y:

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 18:59
For about £2.5k, Powerstation can give a WRX another remap, full Milteck exhaust system with sports-cat/de-cat and a VF34 Turbo upgrade, which apparantly see's around 315bhp at the fly. That would be pure intoxication in a car like that... its what I'd consider doing if/when I get one.

Only one person to remap a Scooby and thats Andy Forest..awesome ripped you face off performance in my opnion

Both decats removed with a 3inch down piper and a ninja type exhaust

Vf34 is a twin scroll turbo and has quick spoil up

you would need uprated 550 pink injectors (sti ones) to be honest with a fuel lab fpr

IF a job is worth doing its worth doing well

NO harry half jobs on a scooby and your will have reliablie car

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 19:00
imports have different gearboxes anyway dont they (on classics)



WRX is pretty much the same

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 19:01
^^^^^^^^ All true jazz each time i see a chavved up classic i can smell heavy fuel from them

Thou
18th December 2008, 19:03
Good read mate, fantastic car.

Ocego_VTR
18th December 2008, 19:03
Jesus, if i could i would, seriously i tried hard as i just wanted one

I could have had a great spec scooby and money in pocket over the ST

Btw im not saying my own car is shit its far from it very fast but i wanted a scoob ;)

Don't blame you at the end of the day, you still have a very fast car just you wanted a scooby and couldnt afford one like many other young people out there.

VTR_Craig
18th December 2008, 19:09
Nice read mate

i will be getting one in that shape one day

then adding the biggest loudest exhaust and dump valve

leeroybrown
18th December 2008, 19:10
Nice read mate

i will be getting one in that shape one day

then adding the biggest loudest exhaust and dump valve

Then watch it go pop :A:

andywiddss1
18th December 2008, 19:18
interesting read

Zebeddy
18th December 2008, 21:30
not bad

titchster
20th December 2008, 08:08
Love Jap cars, used to love Scoobs, not feeling 'em at all now though, there's just too many about, and they all seem the same, and yet... that write-up seemed to make me feel like I actually wanted one. :panic:

Heliosphan
20th December 2008, 10:46
As always, a superb review mate. :P

Jazz
20th December 2008, 11:15
Thanks for the comments, appreciated :)

Driving a Honda Jazz 1.2 today as mine is in for a service, tempted to whip up a review on that lol... won't be quite as interesting though so I might not bother.

Karl
20th December 2008, 11:17
Do it anyways,
i still think they should of made a Supermini Honda Jazz 1.6 Type R.
to compete with Twingo market etc.
Would look like a pocket sized old Civic Type R, would rock.

Jazz
20th December 2008, 11:21
Do it anyways,
i still think they should of made a Supermini Honda Jazz 1.6 Type R.
to compete with Twingo market etc.
Would look like a pocket sized old Civic Type R, would rock.

Yeah it has potential tbh, chassis isn't bad, its just... gutless, 1.2 with no VTEC. If I get a moment I might do a quick write up. :y: