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boz
21st September 2005, 03:39
just been looking threw the car mags at W H Smith and there are loads of specialist car mags, jap cars, german cars, fords, vw, bmws, porches etc but there aint one for french cars or even better saxos.
anyone fancy starting a mag? LOL

a SAX-P endorsed mag, would be great. could have members in charge of different sections. i think it would be great! LOL
im sick of spending a fortune on mags that are the same old shite all the time and cost a mint for each one. smileys/smiley13.gif

hesslevtr
21st September 2005, 03:45
PGTI is for french cars not all news agents sell it though very hard to get hold of round here smileys/smiley7.gif

a saxo 1 would be a good idea though smileys/smiley2.gif

boz
21st September 2005, 03:51
sure would smileys/smiley2.gif

AL1900
21st September 2005, 04:00
Very surprised it hasn't been done really considering the size of the saxo scene.

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Certi
21st September 2005, 04:05
TBH I dont think it would. All those magazines u mentioned above aren't for one particular model, they are for a manufacturer i.e VW so have the ability to feature loads of different car. To use VW as an example, they can feature golfs, polos, lupos, passats etc etc etc. This enables the magazine to maximise its appeal. A magazine simply for Saxos would have very limited appeal and people would more than likely get bored of constantly reading about Saxos.

Another problem would be content, as there are only so many Saxos going around that would be feature worthy and the average magazine features roughly 10 each month. Finding enough Saxos to fill this every month would b a major task. Most magazines also have a "New products" section. Finding enough products solely for the Saxo to fill this every month would be difficult to say the least.

starkie
21st September 2005, 04:10
what places stock PGTI as i want a copy smileys/sad.gif

boz
21st September 2005, 04:10
i know what you mean smileys/smiley17.gif would still be class tho. my dads mate started off a small mag about hifis from his home, sent it out every quarter. he couldnt be arsed after a while and some company paid him a tidy some of cash for it smileys/smiley2.gif
cold be done on a small scale at first, just to test the water. there would prob be scope for it, just look at the amount of members we have and how many are joining each day smileys/smiley2.gif

boz
21st September 2005, 04:12
forgot to mention. this has nothing to do with my idea, but my pal is in max power this month with his red RX7, jurgen hes called, car is fast as ...., he's a lucky get, has new cars all the time and his bro owns a jap performance company called xo tuning.

Certi
21st September 2005, 04:15
Check their website out Starkie...

Performance GTi Magazine (http://www.performancegti.com/)

Gav
21st September 2005, 10:35
probs a bit late to bring out a mag just for saxos they have been out that long.

Dan
21st September 2005, 13:00
would be nice to have one but like andy said would be hard to get the content each month.

would be great to see though.

starkie
21st September 2005, 13:17
Check their website out Starkie...

Performance GTi Magazine (http://www.performancegti.com/)

Thanks mate smileys/smiley17.gif

saxx
21st September 2005, 13:27
ummmm there is a mag specifically for golfs!! my dad gets it smileys/smiley2.gif

very interestin read too!

Certi
21st September 2005, 16:30
ummmm there is a mag specifically for golfs!! my dad gets it smileys/smiley2.gif

very interestin read too!

Ok fair enough, but the Golf has been around for more than 20 years so there is plenty of stuff to write about them and plenty of them to feature.

Jungle_Jim
21st September 2005, 16:56
i had already raised the issue about a saxo mag wiv simo some time ago smileys/smiley2.gif

http://www.sax-p.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13339&KW=jung (http://www.sax-p.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13339&KW=jungle%5FJim) le%5FJim

jonnosaxo87
21st September 2005, 23:29
Performance GTi is the best mag around and the PVW (i think it's a sister mag?) is class aswell. better than all the ~£5 a go Max Power etc by miles.

Simo
22nd September 2005, 00:03
Performance GTi does rock!!! If you can find it smileys/smiley5.gif

A Saxo mag is an interesting concept, but I dont think a proper publishing agency would produce it. (yet anyway)

The Sax-p quarterly newsletter is developing all of the time, with more and more member ideas/suggestions being used with each issue.

Keep the ideas flowing P-members smileys/smiley2.gif

jonnosaxo87
22nd September 2005, 00:06
i could never find it but got my local newsagent to order it in for mesmileys/happy.gif they should be able to do it no problemsmileys/happy.gif

boz
22nd September 2005, 03:07
would be wicked, im going to try and source a copy of the mag too smileys/smiley2.gif

Zany_Jim
22nd September 2005, 05:29
You would have to base it on French car altogether or Citroen for it to be a success smileys/smiley4.gif

WestyVTR
22nd September 2005, 14:32
The magazine should be titled "French through & through the best info around for VTS VTR models" or sumthing... it would need to cover more than just saxos even tho thay are the daddys!!... the whole citreon range old & new i feel would be big enough, enough to appeal to alot of ppl... family, old, young, lady, drivers... likin the appeal to young ladies smileys/smiley2.gif

Once the saxo is 20yrs old or so hopefully it will become a classic like the golf etc... so specialiazed mags may become available...

I feel that for Sax-p to prehaps start this would definatly be good for business... "sax-p, the first online forum & saxo mag" all youll ever need for your sax...." we could have copy rights & bridges would be built wth alot more big companys identifieing sax-p as a large player in professional moddifiying!

This community is definatly set for bigger things... this could be our run way.... then the sky is the limit!! smileys/smiley14.gif

Simo think outside of the box!!! smileys/smiley17.gif

silversaxo
22nd September 2005, 15:10
i think there should be a saxo mag as all the other mags are getting boring smileys/smiley17.gif

WestyVTR
22nd September 2005, 15:12
i think it would take sax-p to the next level...! smileys/smiley14.gif

silversaxo
22nd September 2005, 15:13
it would bring loads of new members

WestyVTR
22nd September 2005, 15:17
more companys more money... more members... more info... more ladies... smileys/smiley2.gif

silversaxo
22nd September 2005, 15:19
not many ladies here is there

Clouds_mate
22nd September 2005, 15:22
Not real ones anyway smileys/smiley17.gif

silversaxo
22nd September 2005, 15:23
oi

Clouds_mate
22nd September 2005, 15:45
yes..

Simo
22nd September 2005, 16:07
Im constantly thinking outside of the box... It's just you dont always get to find out straight away smileys/smiley17.gif

DevilDamo
22nd September 2005, 16:09
agree with what the majority of you are saying here.

i have had a flick through some of the pgti mag's and they are a very good read. i have also bought some performance vw mags and they too are full of information. i sometimes buy these to get some 'euro' ideas although after reading the mag, you think... now why haven't i got a vw!?! hehe!

a few people have said (simo) that vw's or even golf's date back a good twenty years. they have been at the top of the lists for a long time now and they are still coming up with new and fresh designs. the saxo however came out with the... 'p-reg' and ceased on the '03 reg'.

it may be an idea to have a magazine feature on french cars as this does open up a tunnel of ideas. having something like... performance citroen just doesnt have that ring to it. there are no way as many citroen models compared to vw.

it is a good idea for something like this to be raised but i think the way the sax-p newsletter is going atm, it will turn out into something big.

Zany_Jim
22nd September 2005, 16:14
But it all comes down to printing costs and will people actually buy it smileys/smiley2.gif

DevilDamo
22nd September 2005, 16:18
well... for it to get down to printing costs, etc... you would have to think back a few steps and say to yourself... what could you put in the magazine to make it worth reading? is there enough information about citroen's to make it worth while? in my opinion, the answer would be no.

i said citroen's because peugeot's has already been done and is a major success. trying to come up with another magazine which would come across as a rival to pgti is just not possible. especially at this late stage.

WestyVTR
22nd September 2005, 17:20
Im constantly thinking outside of the box... It's just you dont always get to find out straight away smileys/smiley17.gif

aha! smileys/smiley2.gif

i kinda thought u would b, but just wanted to reenforce that i really do think its a good idea... smileys/smiley14.gif

WestyVTR
22nd September 2005, 17:36
well... for it to get down to printing costs, etc... you would have to think back a few steps and say to yourself... what could you put in the magazine to make it worth reading? is there enough information about citroen's to make it worth while? in my opinion, the answer would be no.

i said citroen's because peugeot's has already been done and is a major success. trying to come up with another magazine which would come across as a rival to pgti is just not possible. especially at this late stage.

its not a rival or in compition wiv PGTI as this would be for citreon owners/enthusiats... not peugeot... it is a different group of buyers that would be targeted & therefor the mag should be of simaler success provided the content & material is of simaler quality

supermanzs
22nd September 2005, 17:49
id buy it as sure it would be a big seller!!!! who has the danglies to do it though???? smileys/smiley3.gif

DevilDamo
22nd September 2005, 18:07
well... for it to get down to printing costs, etc... you would have to think back a few steps and say to yourself... what could you put in the magazine to make it worth reading? is there enough information about citroen's to make it worth while? in my opinion, the answer would be no.

i said citroen's because peugeot's has already been done and is a major success. trying to come up with another magazine which would come across as a rival to pgti is just not possible. especially at this late stage.

its not a rival or in compition wiv PGTI as this would be for citreon owners/enthusiats... not peugeot... it is a different group of buyers that would be targeted & therefor the mag should be of simaler success provided the content & material is of simaler quality

but pgti covers some (citroen) saxo information/features.

if a simialr mag came out at the same time as pgti, then fair enough. but something at this late stage is just not practically feasible (to a large market).

saxx
22nd September 2005, 18:09
Not real ones anyway smileys/smiley17.gif

oi...



whats nice about the vw mags is that it stems from really old to brand new! and it features standard and completely revamped!

even tells you where to go how much to expect to pay etc!

and it has its for sale sections too

WestyVTR
22nd September 2005, 19:48
well... for it to get down to printing costs, etc... you would have to think back a few steps and say to yourself... what could you put in the magazine to make it worth reading? is there enough information about citroen's to make it worth while? in my opinion, the answer would be no.

i said citroen's because peugeot's has already been done and is a major success. trying to come up with another magazine which would come across as a rival to pgti is just not possible. especially at this late stage.

its not a rival or in compition wiv PGTI as this would be for citreon owners/enthusiats... not peugeot... it is a different group of buyers that would be targeted & therefor the mag should be of simaler success provided the content & material is of simaler quality

but pgti covers some (citroen) saxo information/features.

if a simialr mag came out at the same time as pgti, then fair enough. but something at this late stage is just not practically feasible (to a large market).

I think we need to agree to dissagree... look at revs, max power etc etc simalar put still sell well...

all we would need to do is have the issue come out on the sheves at a date wen the PGTI issue is a lil old! EG PGTI comes out on 1st of the month every month, our mag would come out 25th of the month every month... peugeot owners/enthusiasts will also buy the mag as its all relivant info.... we would be creatin more variety with in the market.... we could use PGTI to see where/how we can improve our mag....

late stage!? y is it a late stage, did microsoft say "hold on boys ppl are already producing software so we beeter not, its to late... sorry that ideas pasts us"

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there is also an idea of having a sax-p members card and wiv that you get the mag at a discounted rate... insentive to join the forum....

Certi
22nd September 2005, 22:30
The magazine should be titled "French through & through the best info around for VTS VTR models"

Why would you concentrate solely on the VTR/S? Surely that would just narrow down an already niche market.

Once the saxo is 20yrs old or so hopefully it will become a classic like the golf etc... so specialiazed mags may become available...


The Saxo will never be 20 years old as they have stopped making it, whereas the Golf is still going. Plus the Saxo will never be thought of as a classic car as all people ever talk about is how they r driven by "boy racers" and are poorly built.

peugeot owners/enthusiasts will also buy the mag as its all relivant info

I very much doubt that peugeot owners would buy a Citroen mag. Although they are basically the same car when it comes down to it, the Saxo is thought of amongst alot of Peugeot owners as "A 106 in drag"

i think there should be a saxo mag as all the other mags are getting boring smileys/smiley17.gif

I dont understand how people can complain about other mags being boring and showing the same old thing, but want to read about nothing but Saxos? Surely that would just become as, if not more repetitive and boring?

look at revs, max power etc etc simalar put still sell well...

Erm Revs has ceased printing due to lack of sales so that wasn't really the best example. And all of those mags had a loyal following, thats why they continue to sell. I agree with Damo on this 1.

Its good to see Sax-P members thinking of ways to develop and expand the site, but I just don't think this would work.

Simo
22nd September 2005, 23:18
Some good chit chat going on in here smileys/smiley2.gif

I don't have any plans to release a nationally distributed magazine focussed upon the Saxo.

I do however have plans to further develop Saxperience AND the Premium Member Newsletter. So far, I think it's been pretty successful.

I was talking to my printer yesterday about some ideas whilst I was collecting the latest batch of 2000 flyers smileys/smiley17.gif

I have many wide and varied plans for the future... I just dont have the time right now to make a lot of my thoughts happen. smileys/smiley5.gif

WestyVTR
23rd September 2005, 20:05
i know saxo have stopped production but this doesnt stop them becoming a classic or a legend!

vtr/vts models for the whole range of citreon! (mostly anyway of course there would be exeptions from time to time...

GTI - VTS its all the same as peugoet own 80% of citreon! thats y pug ppl would purchase also for additional info/ideas....

I firmly belive that this type of mag would take off... smileys/smiley14.gif

definatly sum gd chat happinin!

Certi
23rd September 2005, 20:30
I never said the fact that they had stopped producing the car would mean it wouldn't be reffered to as a classic or legend. The shite build quality, crap brakes and numerous other faults with the cars will stop the Saxo from being reffered to as a classic.

Why would you centre it around the VTR/S anyway? What is it about the other models of Citroen that makes them not feature worthy?

Making "exceptions" for smaller engined Citroens wouldn't be a smart idea either IMO, becuase people with 1.0/1.1/1.4 Citroens wouldn't want to sit and read about VTR/S' with the odd "exception" made for their smaller engines (I know I wouldn't). It would need to be a magazine that featured all models of Citroens without discrimination.

I already stated that I'm aware that 106/saxo is basically the same thing mechanically but there is still a rivalry there and for that reason I don't think that pug owners would buy it.

saxx
23rd September 2005, 20:37
pug owners seem to have the 'im better than a saxo' attitude imo!

i also wouldnt buy a magazine on saxos - theres just not enough unique ones around to make good reading!

unless the mag goes european or soemthin i cant see it being that easy to produce and keep people interested!

addictedtosax
23rd September 2005, 21:12
its a nice idea but i just dont think it wud take off, the amount of people that may buy it wudnt be enuf to justify production of it

WestyVTR
23rd September 2005, 22:45
i can see your points of view... i just could see it bin a success. IMO

no cars are perfect even the classic ones have there faults! IMO if citreon had produced a "Saxo GT" eg a turbo charged version or sumthin v special, then that would definatly make the car be in the running for a long time status.... i still would like citreon to concider it... the saxo must have made them so much ££ it would be rude to deny the thought of breathing life into the old girl again! dont you think!?

the saxo is a great hot hatch & is still one of the best, so mags about them i still feel would sell well. prehaps not on the scale of 100,0000s every month but still generally sell well.

Certi
23rd September 2005, 22:49
The idea of a Saxo GT, a limited edition turbo/supercharged saxo would be really cool. Sort of like what Nissan did with the Skyline R34 Z-Tune. Just as a sort of farewell to the saxo.

Yates
23rd September 2005, 22:52
jus an idea when on about mags, how much would it be to advertise the website in a car mag? im sure someone on here could do the advert and see how much it is to get in a car mag, maybe jus half a page?

say sign up and get discount on saxo parts? (gm motorsport and john 2 modified could come out with a few more customers)

jus say premium membership jus 7 or 15

good idea?!

WestyVTR
23rd September 2005, 22:55
yep! a lightweight (not that its heavy now) charged version... 1.8 possibly wiv improved suspension & brakes... bigger wheels, say 16s, a few different choices in paint color.. job done

a cheap way to make more £££

CITREON R U LISTENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!