supercar vs tuned car

[Ashleyp]

ok.. im sure this debates been going on since the point of time..

but i said to a group of mates that i didnt like porshes & lambos etc etc (my personal opinion) and they were like "erghh your an idiot" (in an un-intelligent way)

anyway, i said, im not saying theyre bad cars, id just appreciate say an integra tuned like hell.. ive seen some on the web that run around 600bhp etc

the same way id rather see someone whos got a full tracked saxo (loads done engine and performance wise) than someone whos just gone out and bought a standard evo

your opinions on what youd prefer..

discuss x

[Mochachino]

saxo
teggy DC5
delta

il add mroe when i think of them

[PETE-VTR]

wrc car vs. supercar?!?!?????????

WRC car everyday of the week...!

pref sax or 6r4

[Jazz]

Supercars are built with that performance in mind. If you're going to try to tune a car to compete against them, you need to know about proper tuning and have deep pockets to get the job done properly.

Italian exotics are arguably the most desirable cars in the world, and many come from marques with prestigeous history and racing heritage (e.g Ferrari). You can get lesser cars to their level and enjoy similar pace, unsure if they carry off the same feel though.

Depends on what floats your boat. I've seen a Nova outrun a Ferrari 360 on a dragstrip. Ferrari is still 1000X nicer though, how it looks, sounds, feels etc.

I'm a tuner fan for sure, but at the same time there isn't really a replacement for sexy curves of an exotic supercar..

[Ashleyp]

wrc car vs. supercar?!?!?????????

WRC car everyday of the week...!

pref sax or 6r4

another point i rasied..

id much rather see a pretty standard car to start off with turned into an absolute performance whore!

id just appreciate the work gone into it so much more, and its so different to anyone elses

im not saying that a LOT of work doesnt go into developing a supercar.. but once theyre out the factory, theres not much you want to do to mod them, and they end up all being the same

[Ashleyp]

supercar always , but they are too much expensive!

why though?

[Jazz]

So you lot would take one of these:

http://www.mgownersclub.co.uk/images/1984-mg-metro-6r4.jpg

instead of one of these?

http://www.autobytel.com/images/2007/Lamborghini/LP640_Roadster_staff/400/Lamborghini_LP640_35.jpg

One looks like a Remote control toy, the other is a pure work of art :P

[Prickle]

why though?

Im guessing you dont need to spend any money on engine modifications etc, as it will already have a big power :)

[Ashleyp]

Im guessing you dont need to spend any money on engine modifications etc, as it will already have a big power :)

bit it costs a lot more :S

you could do up another car to get the same power and handling (dependant on which car and how you tune it) for a lot less than a super car

and jazz.. lmao! no i would never have that car.. the lambo is gorgeous though.. i just dont appreciate it as much as someone whos taken a pretty standard car and done a lot of work on it

some skylines for example, the ammound of work gone into tuning the engine is ridiculous, and the reults are amazing

[titchster]

One looks like a Remote control toy, the other is a pure work of art :P

That 6R4 is quite a work of art aint it. :p


Love the sound of Ferraris, and like about 5 of em, other than that, dont like em, dont mind Lambos, and Porkers etc, but would respect someone with a highly tuned 'lesser' car that could hold its own with them much more.

[Ashleyp]

they are fast ,as they comes from factory , their suspension scheme is tuned with it's power, their brakes , etc..

but it will be the same as everyone elses

i assume youd want to mod your saxo? its a similar principle about generally wanting to be different and not have a stock car

[AlexB]

So you lot would take one of these:

http://www.mgownersclub.co.uk/images/1984-mg-metro-6r4.jpg

instead of one of these?

http://www.autobytel.com/images/2007/Lamborghini/LP640_Roadster_staff/400/Lamborghini_LP640_35.jpg

One looks like a Remote control toy, the other is a pure work of art :P

nail on the head for me
id love a groub b era car (preferably a t16 or an rs200)

anyone can get a lambo ect and look like a flash twat
or you can have something that looks a bit less flash (the 6r4 you posted is horrific on looks but an immense car the t16 ect is mor subtle) and still rip your face lean off and shove it in you bumhole

[phil-jones]

i would prefer a tned car, would u not like to jus see the luk of sum rich guys face as u beat him in a done up saxo

[AlexB]

compare this to the lambo

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/ggj1987/peugeot-205-t16-138.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s21/yard-man/Cars%20-%20Other%20Older%20Foreign%20Ones/1282.jpg

mmmmmm yesh pweashe (sorry i was drooling)

[titchster]

I take your T16, and raise you one Delta S4...

http://www.puntosportivo.it/public/lanciadeltaS4588202.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Lancia_Delta_S4_006.JPG

[Prickle]

That is a beast that S4 :)

[Jazz]

A bit of psychology here.

Why do me associate supercar driver's with "flash twats?" Is it because he is driving a car that delibertaly shows his wealth? Or is it something else?

when a lawyer in an expensive Aston or Lambo growls passed on the street, I often thing, "c*nt" about it's driver. But its not because he is one, he might be a nice guy lol, I say it because I want his car and I might be just a little jealous.

Then again if a properly modded Evo goes passed, I think pretty much the same thing.

the T16 is nice, but nothing on a 911 for me. Delta is lush too, but I'd still take a DBS..

[phil-jones]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6skNSFMgNDc

now thats wat u want and they sound ace

[AlexB]

slap to the face from an rs200 titch

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/f0dd/cb3c4154650e00_full.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/MKII-RS2000-FAN/PICT0179.jpg

[Jazz]

[QUOTE=Alex-VTS;2822579]slap to the face from an rs200 titch

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/f0dd/cb3c4154650e00_full.jpg

Now thats getting severely nice lol...

[AlexB]

haha rs200 are mint!!

maybe the origonal quattro
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk25/PlLKY/JohnHanlonS1JumpphotographedbyGavin.jpg




and the group b version
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc202/sagaris400/rally%20pics%20-%20not%20my%20pics/Historic/1985AudiSportQuattroS11.jpg

[Prickle]

Audi is canny nice, but prefer the rs200 tbh

[AlexB]

haha if you can find one john

to add and not be a pure rally whore
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd108/wobbly689/Alfa_Romeo-155_3.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii78/nomuken3/BTCC%20JTCC/Alfa%20Romeo%20155/426.jpg

im also not ruling the italians out here also haha!!!

mm

[Mitchell]

have u actually ever driven a decent supercar?

its not just the power its everything! just sitting in one makes you cream

so yes i believe i'd choose a supercar over a metro or any of the sheds posted above.

[JC-Furio]

If I was rich enough, I'd have a supercar, and some tuned piece of shit :).

Sorted.

[Prickle]

ahh the 155 they are sweet, but the primera is class, i mean look at the exhaust :D

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll70/saxox/btcc.jpg

[Jazz]

Haha, this is becoming a supercars vs competition cars thread.

http://www.aaronsdayoff.com/uploaded_images/aston-martin-dbs-4-L-748929.jpg

This is pretty much the epitome of automotive beauty imo..

[AlexB]

have u actually ever driven a decent supercar?

its not just the power its everything! just sitting in one makes you cream

so yes i believe i'd choose a supercar over a metro or any of the sheds posted above.

yes ive driven a ferrari 550 and a gallardo (pics below)

and in the hole trackday i did my fave car ws a forus rs
seconded by an evo5
then the ferrari
and a polo i had more fun in than the lambo


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/sk8r_95_2007/2008-05-24112133.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/sk8r_95_2007/2008-05-24104813.jpg

[Prickle]

I bet you werent so heavy on the throttle with those cars ;)

[Mitchell]

yes ive driven a ferrari 550 and a gallardo

and in the hole trackday i did my fave car ws a forus rs
seconded by an evo5
then the ferrari
and a polo i had more fun in than the lambo

i wouldnt call either of them supercars.. both are around 70k to buy

[Saxo-Will]

Thing about supercars is they are designed to make normal drivers look like pro's i think, except for an odd few

Ruins the driving experience tbh

[AlexB]

I bet you werent so heavy on the throttle with those cars ;)

ferrari wen sideways up the inside of a lambo haha!!

[AlexB]

i wouldnt call either of them supercars.. both are around 70k to buy

there classed in all categories as a supercar
i think your thinking of hypercars such as the pagani zonda 911gt ect that are all in ecxess of 200k

[Prickle]

ferrari wen sideways up the inside of a lambo haha!!

Hehe i bet it was fun though, all of the powaaa :p

[JC-Furio]

Thing about supercars is they are designed to make normal drivers look like pro's i think

They're designed for performance foremost.

Doesn't mean anyone who's got a supercar is trying to be a pro driver, some might want one for looks and comfort as oppose to primarily having them for performance purposes.

[Jazz]

i wouldnt call either of them supercars.. both are around 70k to buy

Mitch they're supercars, both retail at well over 100k (at least they did when in production)

[AlexB]

Hehe i bet it was fun though, all of the powaaa :p

the rs was more fun
yea ok beasting a 550 has its appeals
but an rs turbo on a gravel surface and caged up is just something else entrely

They're designed for performance foremost.

Doesn't mean anyone who's got a supercar is trying to be a pro driver, some might want one for looks and comfort as oppose to primarily having them for performance purposes.

if you want performance and track fun get the combo of both
gt3rs
modded 911 i do believe
personally i think they look too flashy i like the understated stuff like the 205

Mitch they're supercars, both retail at well over 100k.

hahaha told tbh

[Saxo-Will]

Maybe but if people wants looks and comfort why not go for jaguars and mercs? even bentleys?

As ferrari and lambos are going to have performance suspension so cant be that comfortable tbh

[AlexB]

they are suprising mate

the little sport buttom turns it from comfy to stiff
normally there prety good

[Prickle]

If i was going for comfort it would be this Brabus (merc)

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll70/saxox/Brabus-SV12S-Roadster-006.jpg

[AlexB]

if i went supercar check out the ascari a10

not very comfy lol

[Jazz]

if i went supercar check out the ascari a10

not very comfy lol

http://themutz.com/pictures/ascari%20a10.jpg

Agreed, this is one of my favorites. A10 is pure lush.

http://photos.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_420/car_photo_210478_5.jpg

[AlexB]

mmmm gearbox whine banging into next gear on the sequential

fuck having a littlle paddle to shift

[smiith]

some of you are acting like a lambo or Ferrari is just a every day car you see all the time like a mondeo... id choose a supercar over a highly modified car, for one you know the car was built for that perpous, put too much power in a tuned car, can do all sorts of damage, plus you dont know how the car will handle at top end speeds, least supercars have been tried and tested.

Would you honestly say no to a veyron??

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/veyron-review-1.jpg

[AlexB]

honestly i would say no to a veyron

its not my stlye

[Prickle]

Id have it (obviously) but only as a weekend car :p

[Mieran]

For me its GT-R >>> Super-cars.

Well the GT-R isn't tuned but its associated with the modifiying scene if you get what I mean.

[smiith]

honestly i would say no to a veyron

its not my stlye

so you get offered one, you would say "na thanks mate, il take the bmx" ? :P

tbf, id rather have a nice tvr...

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2004/2004-TVR-Sagaris-S-Studio-1600x1200.jpg

fap fap fap fap fap

[AlexB]

so you get offered one, you would say "na thanks mate, il take the bmx" ? :P

tbf, id rather have a nice tvr...


fap fap fap fap fap

i love my bmx :D
tvrs are nice
but still id take an rs200 or t16

[smiith]

i love my bmx :D
tvrs are nice
but still id take an rs200 or t16

id take the tvr :P driven my naighbours, it was a beasttt, just how raw and course they feel to drive, the the power and raorr

[AlexB]

fibregash though smith

[smiith]

fibregash though smith

so it weighted naff all, if you drove one, you would know what i mean, they are just immense

[AlexB]

so it weighted naff all, if you drove one, you would know what i mean, they are just immense

im messing anyway man

half the cars im posting are composite

[smiith]

:P you know the oldies are the goodies, still take a supercar though

[AlexB]

im oldschool at heart

[JamesR]

i would take a group B rally car anyday over ANY supercar, people take one look at them and say "thats a banger" and then i xplain that it has over 500bhp, but they still insist its a banger. i would rather spend time and effort and make something unique, over buying a car off the shelf, that is mass produced.

[Prickle]

If i was going for a Wtcc car it would be this: the flame look class :D

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll70/saxox/WTCC_and_Support_Brands_Hatch_20050.jpg

But i do like the 205's two wheels ftw lol

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll70/saxox/BARC_Championship_Racing_Thruxton_0.jpg

[AlexB]

most high spec cars will do that john

check out dtm

[Prickle]

most high spec cars will do that john

check out dtm

Forgot about dtm cars for a sec lol :panic:

[stiffler69]

Strange this thread came up lol i not long since got a evo 4 and got a chance to have a play with a porsche carrera 4s ok not the fastest of the line but still 70k car anyway as it went both moving at motoway speeds he plopped his foot down i done the same, sat on his arse and eventually he pulled in for me and gave me a little nod as i went past i was really happy but i would of much rather been rolling in the porsche mind

[alex19]

Some tuned cars may look like wank, compared to all smooth body worke tc of a supercar.

Supercar = For show off's who want fast cars.

Tuned car = Real car lovers who want to have something special of their own.

[Ryan]

a tuned car can quite easily keep up with a supercar, the difference is the supercar can do it day in day out without breaking down.

This is shown at the ring when all the modified cars need to come in to cool down, yet the GT3RS owners just go back to back for hours lol

[CHIP]

Supercars are built with that performance in mind.

I'm a tuner fan for sure, but at the same time there isn't really a replacement for sexy curves of an exotic supercar..

Thats exactly how I would put it. Yes, i completely approve of a car that is tuned to hell when you may not expect it, it'd be so much fun at the lights. But at the end of the day, the people at Ferrari, Lamborghini, TVR (back in day), Porsche etc. have so much experience and they know how to make a car work properly.

I think my dream 2 car garage would probably be a Mk1 Clio or Mk2 Saxo with some mad engine 4wd action and a TVR Sagaris (with vents in the wings ;) ) personally.

[alex19]

I'd just hit a lotus exige, not to expensive but great fun and style like hell.

Pain in the ass to get in and out of, and if your tall, but just park somewhere no one can see you and your good :y:

[CHIP]

I think tbf all of you have got valid points. If you say you wouldnt take a supercar when offered, i think youd change your mind when it actually happened. At the end of the day they are IMMENSE cars. But also, i agree about the rs200, quattro, delta etc being amazing cars. BUT what your forgetting is, jump in a Lambo and you can drive around town easily and you've got a lush interior. Take a delta rally car, or quattro round town and compared to the Lambo it'll be a bloody nightmare.

We're talking about two completely different types of cars at the end of the day!

[Ste]

a tuned car can quite easily keep up with a supercar, the difference is the supercar can do it day in day out without breaking down.

This is shown at the ring when all the modified cars need to come in to cool down, yet the GT3RS owners just go back to back for hours lol

But thats only the big name supercars. Koenigsegg's, gumperts, ascari's etc always drop to bits lol. And the silly caparo T1 doesnt manage a mile without something blowing it to bits.

[Ryan]

But thats only the big name supercars. Koenigsegg's, gumperts, ascari's etc always drop to bits lol. And the silly caparo T1 doesnt manage a mile without something blowing it to bits.

caparo to my knowlege hasnt been released to the general public yet due to the technical faults.

koenigseggs and ascaris are not that bad, we all take the piss out of old tvr owners etc...

having a highly tuned saxo, id take a standard tuned supercar, whilst im being shaken to bits in my car, with no heaters etc, deafened by the bodies, the supercar owner is in comfort with music and aircon.

[Yates]

alex says no to big cars as he crashes saxos for fun i feel the world would end if he crashed a veyron ;)

super car any day, theres a vid on you tube of some mad nova beating a ferrari down the strip, its down as a 2ltr nova, its not, not sure whats in there, but id love to know, still tho rather have the ferrari

[Ryan]

matt its the fact you would have to admit and be seen in a nova :(, nearly as bad as a mk1 saxo lol

[Yates]

matt its the fact you would have to admit and be seen in a nova :(, nearly as bad as a mk1 saxo lol

i dont mind novas too much, my mates got a really clean turbo, altho i dont think id ever have one unless it was uber clean

[Ste]

caparo to my knowlege hasnt been released to the general public yet due to the technical faults.

koenigseggs and ascaris are not that bad, we all take the piss out of old tvr owners etc...

having a highly tuned saxo, id take a standard tuned supercar, whilst im being shaken to bits in my car, with no heaters etc, deafened by the bodies, the supercar owner is in comfort with music and aircon.

Was looking under the bonnet of a TVR tuscan not long back it had so many random bits, Rover V8, Ford washer bottle, fiesta rear lights iirc, landrover airflow sensor, landrover alternator..... it put me off em for life!!!!

I like supercars but im all for the feel of the drive, we all suffer because were skint, but if i could afford a supercar i still wouldnt have one. As much as it sucks to get shaken to bits and listen to annoying rattles and resonating when you get on track you know your cars in the right place. But if you have leather interior etc you'd just feel like your on a spirited drive. Although a GT3 doesnt say supercar to me, more, expensive caterham. :P

And id be scared of binning a supercar, but something like a caterham being smashed up wouldn't be the end of the world.

[Yates]

Was looking under the bonnet of a TVR tuscan not long back it had so many random bits, Rover V8, Ford washer bottle, fiesta rear lights iirc, landrover airflow sensor, landrover alternator..... it put me off em for life!!!!

I like supercars but im all for the feel of the drive, we all suffer because were skint, but if i could afford a supercar i still wouldnt have one. As much as it sucks to get shaken to bits and listen to annoying rattles and resonating when you get on track you know your cars in the right place. But if you have leather interior etc you'd just feel like your on a spirited drive. Although a GT3 doesnt say supercar to me, more, expensive caterham. :P

super car for every day crusing man, and if you have the cash for one, im sure you could quite easily have a nice track prepped evo :D

[Ste]

super car for every day crusing man, and if you have the cash for one, im sure you could quite easily have a nice track prepped evo :D

Going to work in a lambo would deffo make me have a better day haha. Better than going on this fucking thing;

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/Ste_1/DSC03800.jpg

[kcsaxo]

supercar all the way, i love seeing fully tuned cars at shows but if you were to put a ferrari f430 next to a R34 skyling thats had the same spent on it, my eyes would be welded to the italian.

[Mike-VTR]

this thread reminds me of this
haha
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ra_JdQfT3sg&feature=related

[Mitchell]

wow strong supercar jealousy in this thread

[AlexB]

alex says no to big cars as he crashes saxos for fun i feel the world would end if he crashed a veyron ;)

knob!not messing you are actually a knob lol

Was looking under the bonnet of a TVR tuscan not long back it had so many random bits, Rover V8, Ford washer bottle, fiesta rear lights iirc, landrover airflow sensor, landrover alternator..... it put me off em for life!!!!

tvr use a modifies landrover engine
it will be full of landrover parts
and have you ever seen a defender at the roadside with the a there?

[jamie8v]

wrc car = sex

[dobbo_1]

if you can afford one buy one if not stop bein jellous and slatting them tbf if you got the cash to spend 200k on a lambo then sure you can afford a nice toy aswell

[Yates]

novataken (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Djy9jNi5U)

[Mitchell]

but i bet the bloke in the ferrari still gets 5 x more vag

and thats what its all about

[bullit]

but i bet the bloke in the ferrari still gets 5 x more vag

and thats what its all about

i also lol'd

[Yates]

some of the comments are awesome

just tryin to find out what its running

stil rather have a super car

[AlexB]

if you can afford one buy one if not stop bein jellous and slatting them tbf if you got the cash to spend 200k on a lambo then sure you can afford a nice toy aswell

if i had 200k id get a nice house with a garage for my saxo

[d4r3n]

im on the border line i like both love exotic cars but i got to hand it to some of these crazy fools that mod skylines and supras up to 1200bhp plus

[Mitchell]

if i had 200k id get a nice house with a garage for my saxo

http://www.non-refundable.com/yh/sisko_facepalm.gif

[s1chris]

Im split aswel i i dont think in reality could choose between say a lambo or e.g a wrc car as they both have got there different uses. But being a full on petrol head in dream world id go for a wrc car over a lambo any day!

[AlexB]

http://www.non-refundable.com/yh/sisko_facepalm.gif

hahaha
i would though man
im not a supercar guy they attract too much atention

[Jazz]

http://images.paultan.org/images/Alfa_Romeo_8C_Spider_1_Large.jpg

This is why they (supercars) attract attention though. Most of the time they're Sexy as f**k,like the 8C above.

[d4r3n]

http://images.paultan.org/images/Alfa_Romeo_8C_Spider_1_Large.jpg

This is why they (supercars) attract attention though. Most of the time they're Sexy as f**k,like the 8C above.

that is a sexy looking car ... badge spoils it though

[Prickle]

wrc car = sex

Agree tbh ,bwaaarp bwaarp lol

Seat ibiza rally car rocks!

[AlexB]

still rather have a t16 tbh

[PETE-VTR]

right WRC car, as fast as an F1 car and a plane:panic:

...............OR............................

a very expensive, dramatic looking lambo that looks like its just popped out a cereal box??:homme:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FE5kUSeGss0&feature=PlayList&p=D901B6B111BCE4AB&playnext=1&index=9

decision time........:wacko:

WRC cars have very highly tuned engines specificaly designed to drive at very high speeds on mud,gravel etc with suspension that is out of this world. everything on a WRC car is of the highest quality with saftey being top pirority:y:

a supercar is a ready baught car that every other tom, dick and harry can buy:n:. dont get me wrong they look the dogs tits but as said your not going to have a fully custom car that no1 else is going to have, its just another car thats been bumped:bump: off the production lines...........

[Ryan]

WRC cars have very highly tuned engines specificaly designed to drive at very high speeds on mud,gravel etc with suspension that is out of this world. everything on a WRC car is of the highest quality with saftey being top pirority:y:

a supercar is a ready baught car that every other tom, dick and harry can buy:n:. dont get me wrong they look the dogs tits but as said your not going to have a fully custom car that no1 else is going to have, its just another car thats been bumped:bump: off the production lines...........

a rally car which is limited to 100-130 depending on the gearset used at the time, requires alot of rebuilds a season let alone if used more, doesnt have much luxury, will make you look like a tit when getting in and out of over the cage..

or a car built to do respectable milage between rebuilds, crammed full of luxuries, and girls will get into as there isnt a space frame in the way..

I swear we have some very deluded people here who dont really look at the big picture

[Jazz]

WRC cars have very highly tuned engines specificaly designed to drive at very high speeds on mud,gravel etc with suspension that is out of this world. everything on a WRC car is of the highest quality with saftey being top pirority:y:

a supercar is a ready baught car that every other tom, dick and harry can buy:n:. dont get me wrong they look the dogs tits but as said your not going to have a fully custom car that no1 else is going to have, its just another car thats been bumped:bump: off the production lines...........

And what about when you're not trying to immitate Mr. Loeb? What about when you just want to cruise peacefully through the scenic routes in the South of France and take it easy?

Surely a sexy drop-top Ferrari, Lambo or Porsche will be just the ticket, with luxury and comfort compared to a twitchy, viscious rally car thats just itching to go faster and would be hot, harsh and uncomfortable.

[bullit]

audi or m5 would do. room for some fattys in aswell

[AlexB]

a rally car which is limited to 100-130 depending on the gearset used at the time, requires alot of rebuilds a season let alone if used more, doesnt have much luxury, will make you look like a tit when getting in and out of over the cage..

or a car built to do respectable milage between rebuilds, crammed full of luxuries, and girls will get into as there isnt a space frame in the way..

I swear we have some very deluded people here who dont really look at the big picture

haha some of the lasses i know laugh about the cage stuff with me and tbh i doubt theyd care
would agree its not the best option to have a full race spec car
plus stuff like the t16 doesnt have doorbars ect and i believe they have aircon (not 100% on that)
i have the practicality in mind a little lol

[PETE-VTR]

And what about when you're not trying to immitate Mr. Loeb? What about when you just want to cruise peacefully through the scenic routes in the South of France and take it easy?

Surely a sexy drop-top Ferrari, Lambo or Porsche will be just the ticket, with luxury and comfort compared to a twitchy, viscious rally car thats just itching to go faster and would be hot, harsh and uncomfortable.


i know what you mean, when you put it like that yeah i would like a lambo or a aston just to cruise about the south of spain in.

i think i just prefer a full on slagged racing beast tho tbh

[Sophia_Bush]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/12/2007/09/batmobile_Tumbler.jpg

id pwn you all to be fair!

agree with ryan having a highly tuned french car every day yes its fun not that great when you have to fiz it every other week. WHilst supercar fast comfortable expensive to run mind you.

[AlexB]

And what about when you're not trying to immitate Mr. Loeb? What about when you just want to cruise peacefully through the scenic routes in the South of France and take it easy?

Surely a sexy drop-top Ferrari, Lambo or Porsche will be just the ticket, with luxury and comfort compared to a twitchy, viscious rally car thats just itching to go faster and would be hot, harsh and uncomfortable.

the road going versions are quite comfy though
not slagged out at all
the t16 even has leather and i do believe aircon

[andywiddss1]

So you lot would take one of these:

http://www.mgownersclub.co.uk/images/1984-mg-metro-6r4.jpg

instead of one of these?

http://www.autobytel.com/images/2007/Lamborghini/LP640_Roadster_staff/400/Lamborghini_LP640_35.jpg

One looks like a Remote control toy, the other is a pure work of art :P

all the grp b rally cars were a work of art in there day and there is still alot that are used in the clubmans rallys ect today . the likes of the lamborgini ect are just money cars

[AlexB]

i think my likes grew over my youth
i remember my first scalectric had 2 metro 6r4s on it lol
i blame my parents

[andywiddss1]

i think my likes grew over my youth
i remember my first scalectric had 2 metro 6r4s on it lol
i blame my parents

ha ha dont get me wrong i like the evos an scoobys ect but there is nothing like the sound of a 6r4 flat out in the forest , and i will be at croft circuit on sunday to watch 2 or 3 of them in the christmas stages rally :drink:

[AlexB]

cant beat the old stuff tbh
legend cars
without group b we wouldnt have half the cars we do today tbh (yes thats a bi claim n will derail the thread majorly)

was a few 6r4s at the local rally the other year (missed this years :()
just immense

[Mitchell]

my first scalextric had 2 sierra cosworths, was mint

[Dave89]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/largepic.asp?i=798541&noPics=6&imgsrv=1&current=1&make=FORD&model=sierra

Thats wat im talking about tbh

[Dave89]

oh cock lol, forgot to post pic

[makaveli144]

that every other tom, dick and harry can buy

How many supercars you own then? This thread is daft, you are comparing what are essentially race cars against road legal super cars. What if you track the supercars, your on about 6r4s,btcc etc, not road legal and cannot be used as a daily drive against cars that are extremely fast and can do it day in and day out.

What happends if you take a competition super car?

http://www.rexkaile.com/motorshow/lamborghini/lamborghini_murcielago_GTR_0029.jpg

[Mitchell]

http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/19831-2/Aston_Martin_dbr9-74.jpg

[de4n0]

I feel the same way yet would say no to a lambo. if i had the money id spend it on tuning and restoring a clasic than just buying a lambo or ferarri.

[titchster]

How many supercars you own then? This thread is daft, you are comparing what are essentially race cars against road legal super cars. What if you track the supercars, your on about 6r4s,btcc etc, not road legal and cannot be used as a daily drive against cars that are extremely fast and can do it day in and day out.
It originally started out about normal tuned cars, turbo Integras etc, and tbh, Id rather have something like that rather than a supercar, more fun, plusif you use it on track, cheaper to find parts for if you need to (cost of a 'teg bumper vs cost of a 'rarri bumper for example)

[Mitchell]

its just getting silly now lol

[Tom5190]

I feel the same way yet would say no to a lambo. if i had the money id spend it on tuning and restoring a clasic than just buying a lambo or ferarri.

i see were people come from when they say this, i would like to do it myself if i had the cash as im a big fan or standard cars being mod'd. but the simple fact is, its impossible to take a mass produced car like an integra or a supra and make it drive and feel like a ferrari or lambo. granted you can make it faster, and maybe even make it handle better, but what you would sacrafice for that would be to much really, your basically looking at turning a normal car into a 'track car' to get it to the spec of a higher classed lambo, or say the pagani zonda. you may have a supra which is faster, and can handle better. but you then cant then drive it off a track and drive home with the radio on in comfort. the supra would be noisy, rattly and uncomfortable. a supercar isnt designed just to be fast, take aston martins, there not perticulally fast (in comparison), but they are some of the best looking cars ever made, old and new

[CHIP]

that is a sexy looking car ... badge spoils it though

Next time i see you Daz, im gonna givee you a slap round head:boxing: lol

[CHIP]

Was looking under the bonnet of a TVR tuscan not long back it had so many random bits, Rover V8, Ford washer bottle, fiesta rear lights iirc, landrover airflow sensor, landrover alternator..... it put me off em for life!!!!

Have you ever been in a TVR? That'd make you want one again. I dont think i've EVER smiled soooooooooooo much. Sagaris is literally my dream car.

[stiffler69]

I think a few of you guys need to spend 6 hours crammed in a recaro with rock hard suspension and a loud exhaust then ask what you would prefer to be rolling in, because i regurlarly do this journey in the evo and its that uncomfortable i had to purchase a neck pillow just for a little bit of cushioning and comfort.

Porsche, ferrari, lambo all the way i just wish i had the cash for it life would be some much nicer lol

[CHIP]

I think a few of you guys need to spend 6 hours crammed in a recaro with rock hard suspension and a loud exhaust then ask what you would prefer to be rolling in, because i regurlarly do this journey in the evo and its that uncomfortable i had to purchase a neck pillow just for a little bit of cushioning and comfort.

Porsche, ferrari, lambo all the way i just wish i had the cash for it life would be some much nicer lol

Thats what i was trying to say lol. You all rave on about rally cars, but rally cars are not designed for comfort one bit. Supercars are.
And it's ok you saying 'i could put up with it' but i guarantee, after so long, you'd get abit sick of it.

[kcsaxo]

come to think of it, a lot of people think 'tuned' as in completely stripped out with mad performance. if people thought along the same lines as modifying a normal car to supercar standard, would there still be such a big difference? for instance:

brabus vs mclaren mercedez
amg vs ferrari
hamann vs lambo

all huge tuning companies but produce cars that are useable on a daily basis.

[CHIP]

But everybody whos saying tuned cars is putting up pictures of racing/rally cars up.

[AlexB]

I think a few of you guys need to spend 6 hours crammed in a recaro with rock hard suspension and a loud exhaust then ask what you would prefer to be rolling in, because i regurlarly do this journey in the evo and its that uncomfortable i had to purchase a neck pillow just for a little bit of cushioning and comfort.

Porsche, ferrari, lambo all the way i just wish i had the cash for it life would be some much nicer lol

Thats what i was trying to say lol. You all rave on about rally cars, but rally cars are not designed for comfort one bit. Supercars are.
And it's ok you saying 'i could put up with it' but i guarantee, after so long, you'd get abit sick of it.

however when i say s2 quattro and the t16 ect im talking about the road versions and as ive said these have aircon ect in them and are reasonably comfortable

yes a full track spec car as a daily isnt fun (ive driven a car that was heavily stripped everyday) but i could live with it

however given the choice i find supercars ostentacius (sp) and i would feel like a cock driving one just cause of the attention it attracts

[CHIP]

and i would feel like a cock driving one just cause of the attention it attracts

Thats where i'd think fuck 'em lol. If I had that sort of money, stuff it, why shouldnt i enjoy it just because people might think im a show-off. It's not that I want to show off, it's that I like the car and I enjoy it.

[AlexB]

i just dont like attention
im the kinda guy who desnt tell people its my bday so i dont get fuss

i would rather have something thats a part of motoring history if i had the cash and tbh lots of supercars end up just fading away (apart from a few ie lambo diblo and countach and stuff like the dino and f40)

as tbh a lot of the cars im posting arnt cheap
t16s for example (yes i frigging love em) fetch in excess of 50k

[CHIP]

I must admit though, all this talk about italian cars, but i'd rather have a tvr. How many other manufacturers have cars that come standard with a roll cage trimmed in leather to match the seats and dash. Plus that crazy styling like the Sagaris and Tuscan. And then there's the crazy amount of power and RWD which makes it soooooooooo fun.

I personally havent seen such amazing attention to detail in another car. Even the boot hinges are CNC'd for gods sake! Lol.

[AlexB]

chip youve not looked at stuff in detail then tbh

lots of high spec cars have details like that you just need the tme looking around the car to find them

i still stand by the fact cars are to be drivn not looked at
its a car not a fashion accesory

[CHIP]

its a car not a fashion accesory

Agreed. But i like best of both worlds lol. Not so much fashion, but the styling of the car if you get what I mean. I just like the complete package. May i just point out though, that im not calling the t16's or quattro's or rs200's either.
My uncle owned a gorgeous old skool quattro and my dad is a Ford man through and through (i slightly am too, but I got bit by the french bug before i managed to buy a Ford). I love the old skool rally cars.

[JBVTR]

not a fan of either types tbh, prefer the understated saloons
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff165/joelbarritt/Lotus_Carlton_90-92_30.jpg
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff165/joelbarritt/2088465985_8ebacafdd9.jpg
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff165/joelbarritt/1086533d77321f78.jpg

[Dasher_VTR]

i have this discussion at work they always say to me why tune a saxo, why don't you go out and buy a proper sports car. i know we are talking about supercars but it's a similar comparison.

they can't comprehend why a tuned car is better. tuned car for me just for the work that has gone into it and to me they just have alot more character. even though a tvr is probably the only one i would disagree on they are soo nice.