Headlight Bulb Upgrade

[JRC1]

What are the bulbs used in all the new, more pricey cars such as Lexus', Range rover's, Audi's etc etc..

They shine really bright white/blue..

Is there a kit on the market to enable me to have these instead of my standard bulbs? How much are they and are they easy to fit?

Any info would be great as I think the standard bulbs just look too yellowie!!

Saw them on a 106 last night and looked really good.

Cheers.

[Spanky]

www.hids-direct.co.uk

Saxo's are H4 kits :y:

[JRC1]

That was a quick response, cheers bud! :D

[AXracing]

They are gas discharge lights. There are quite a few laws governing them however as there so bright and potentially dangerous due to there glare. They can only legally be fitted to type approved type “D” headlights that a “E” marked with the “D”. They also require auto aiming units to ECE standard to reduce glare. As well the require auto washing systems again to ECE standards. It is against the law to use retrofit bulbs to convert “BS” or “E” marked type “H” headlights with gas discharge bulbs.

[AXracing]

www.hids-direct.co.uk

Saxo's are H4 kits :y:

The bulbs sold by them are illegal to use on the road this is the UK Governments very own Department For Transport fact sheet on the subject. http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

[JRC1]

They are gas discharge lights. There are quite a few laws governing them however as there so bright and potentially dangerous due to there glare. They can only legally be fitted to type approved type “D” headlights that a “E” marked with the “D”. They also require auto aiming units to ECE standard to reduce glare. As well the require auto washing systems again to ECE standards. It is against the law to use retrofit bulbs to convert “BS” or “E” marked type “H” headlights with gas discharge bulbs.

Cheers for the post but you have lost me tbh..

I don't really know alot about lights but wouldn't want anything illgeal on my car.

Are the lights on this link illegal then?

http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/hid-products.html

Surely the kits in the new cars are legal so where can I buy those kits from?

Cheers.

[JRC1]

Says this on the site:

Key Features

1. Certificate: E24-Mark & CE approved, ISO9001:2000

[AXracing]

Any gas discharge (HID) bulb can only be “E” approved for use in a type “D” headlight. These bulbs are modified to fit in a type “H” headlight. They are not approved for this application and in so it is illegal to use them as such on the road. ISO has no relevance and is just there to try and mislead. Another common one is quoting DOT approval that again in the UK has no relevance. Have a look at the government link as it tell you what you need to know http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps or this web site also tell you a lot http://www.hid.moonfruit.com/ Also Have a look at what Hella one of the larger manufactures has to say about the subject http://www.hella-press.de/search_detail.php?text_id=189&language=e&newdir=eng

[Mieran]

Get some MTEC bulbs, they are very good value for money and made in Japan so wont go wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MTEC-H1-55w-HID-class-xenon-gas-bulbs-Cosmos-blue_W0QQitemZ220218171308QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item220218171308&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

[phil-jones]

get some xenon bulbs

[Spanky]

Get some MTEC bulbs, they are very good value for money and made in Japan so wont go wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MTEC-H1-55w-HID-class-xenon-gas-bulbs-Cosmos-blue_W0QQitemZ220218171308QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item220218171308&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

Link to some H4 bulbs would of been better lol

[Mieran]

Link to some H4 bulbs would of been better lol

They are on the hids-direct website ;)

The eBay sellers on that link are also hids-direct

[JRC1]

Mieran, what's the difference between those and the kit on the hid-direct website as those are like £11 and the ones on the website are £75. I know the ones on the website is a full conversion kit so i'm guessing that will be of better quality?

[phil-jones]

the 11 quid ones will just be bulbs, but for 75 quid it would be a kit so they brighter

[JRC1]

the 11 quid ones will just be bulbs, but for 75 quid it would be a kit so they brighter

Cheers bud :y:

[Mieran]

Mieran, what's the difference between those and the kit on the hid-direct website as those are like £11 and the ones on the website are £75. I know the ones on the website is a full conversion kit so i'm guessing that will be of better quality?

The ones for £11 are halogen bulbs so straight swap to the originals.

The £75 kits consist of bulbs, ballasts and all the wiring you need. They will be much more brighter so if you were gona buy them you will have to adjust your headlights to VERY low otherwise you'll end up blinding everyone.

[AXracing]

£11 ones are road legal £75 ones are not.

[JRC1]

Is there a huge amount of difference between the £11 bulbs and the £75 kit? I mean, I would obviously get the kit adjusted as I wouldn't want to blind other vehicles but if the bulbs look pretty similar, I would rather get them as they would be legal, would be easier to fit and wouldn't need adjusting.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers.

[JRC1]

anyone?

[Mikol]

Its already been answered 3 posts up :)

At the end of the day normal bulbs from a good manufacturer are more than enough brightness for road driving.

No point wasting your money on bulbs that will piss people off, and have potential to get you pulled & fined.

[Lippy]

get some angel eyes and they can be point higher as far as im aware, and then if they are still not bright enough get some 80/100 xenon bulbs!
HID's are cool but bit on the risky side, the problem you have is the saxo lights dont fire far enough into the road!
I have 100w xenons and it still doesnt help!

[b0t13]

get the HID kit with high/low beam, yes there technically illegal but if u get the 6k bulbs i dont see how there any more annoyin than 100w bulbs from halfords, the HID kit is alot better quality and brightness and worth the money, and itll look like new expensive cars etc.. which just halogen bulbs alone wont, ive got the 8k kit from HIDS-direct and its easy to install and imo its a very gd kit. dont worry bout the law crap because alot of people dont know there illegal in the real world and there e-marked so most people believe there legal for a car like a saxo but its upto you.

[rich112]

If your going to put any effort or want a good result from changing bulbs etc hids is the answer. I tried all these ultra bright bulbs etc before, got hids recently and such a difference love them.

[JRC1]

the site link doesnt work i want some super bright bulbs :( ?

Cheers for bumping a thread I created nearly two years ago :y:

[Bensvts]

Just to let you know i have got xenons in my saxo and have not been pulled over once, not saying there not illegal or legal or whatever just the fact that i cant see police being that bothered, i brought mine for around £50 and are quality and really easy to fit if you are even looking at buying some anymore lol