HID owners beware!!

[AXracing]

just extracted this information from hondatech.co.uk.

the person who posted this is an auto electrician with his own reputable business (evolutionice.com)

just so you all know, incase youre thinking of getting HID light upgrades or already have them.


since everyone has pretty much stopped tinting front windows the police and VOSA are looking for something else to pull people for.

This time its HID lights. MOT inspectors are also being told to be on the lookout for them. Possible action from vosa/cops includes a prohibition notice + test at a vosa centre and possibly a £60 fine. The ACPO is also pushing for this crackdown.

UK Government fact sheet on retrofit HID (http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps)

A web site with a bit more information on the subject (http://hid.moonfruit.com/)

[CHIP]

Typical, they cant do motorists for one thing so they move onto another. How about catching real criminals?

[Spanky]

are you sure you ant a police man in disguise, all you bang on about is HID lights.

Ffs man if people want them they will get them.

Decat pipes, fully illegal, people have them.

Over smoked lights, peiople have them, fully illegal

its a fact of life, if people want to runt he risk they will, i admire how your so against them and try and tell everyone not to get them, but its not working lol

You havnt put me off and havnt pyut many others off. Give it a rest man lol

Cheers for the info though, but its hardly going to make a diff imo

[kcsaxo]

soon youre going to get fined for having your windows down!

[Marshy]

I have dark tints, and HID's are in the post! Still doesn't put me off, because im hardcore tbh :homme:

[alex19]

Time to tint front windows I guess then.

[CHIP]

In the space of about 18month i payed roughly £300 in fines for tints and illegal plates. I admit, tints were waaayyyyy illegal. But the plates were VERY readable. I picked the easiest, least flashy font i could but it still looked smart. And with the car being low, i had 'on it's arse' at the bottom, in very small lettering. Anyway, the cops pulled me for them once and said i could serve time for having 'arse' on my plate lmao.
Eventually i just got the cage & ripped tints out and changed plates. Now have NO signs, STANDARD font and no other writing what so ever. Not been pulled since.

[Jazz]

Mine comes with HID (Xenon) bulbs standard, and I wouldn't have it any other way, love the crystal white light.

They must have something better to do, seriously..

[jdizzy]

are you sure you ant a police man in disguise, all you bang on about is HID lights.

Ffs man if people want them they will get them.

Decat pipes, fully illegal, people have them.

Over smoked lights, peiople have them, fully illegal

its a fact of life, if people want to runt he risk they will, i admire how your so against them and try and tell everyone not to get them, but its not working lol

You havnt put me off and havnt pyut many others off. Give it a rest man lol

Cheers for the info though, but its hardly going to make a diff imo

agreed!! :y:

[jdizzy]

I have dark tints all round, and HID's are in the post! Still doesn't put me off, because im hardcore tbh :homme:

same here mate! :y:

[gouldy87]

what a set of dicks. i swaer they get board, sit down and think...... hhmmm how can we piss everyone off today? eventually everyone will be banned, and those of us who arnt will be driving around in 1.0l cars restricted to the speed limit 100% standard. oo! that turned into a bit of a rant didnt it!

[Marshy]

I think as long as your HIDs don't glare oncoming cars then I expect most police will leave you alone

[M-H]

whats so bad about them there safer arent they

[VTR-Chris]

police have never said anything to me over my HID's

theyre fitted to angels though and pointed well down at the road, so no glare

[Jazz]

whats so bad about them there safer arent they

I find them really effective, visability on poorly lit roads is really good. I think its just when people don't install them well they might glare at other drivers, but thats a sorry excuse to ban them. So many Beemers, Audi's etc are using them nowadays.

[Mitchell]

fuck the police!!

[VTR-Chris]

mine are 8000k aswell so white with a slight tint of blue

no bother so far... just remember to swap them over MOT time

but thats common sense anyways :S

[Jazz]

mine are 8000k aswell so white with a slight tint of blue

no bother so far... just remember to swap them over MOT time

but thats common sense anyways :S

got my MOT tomorrow lol, they had better not say a thing about my Xenons... never had any issues so far.

[AlexR]

Aftermarket HID kits are actually putting other drivers at risk, so i think this is totally fair.

Cars which have them as standard almost always have optic lenses(projectors) to focus the beam which greatly reduces glare to other drivers. If they don't have them fitted the reflectors will have been designed specially for the job. Fitting an HID kit to a headlamp designed for tungsten halogen lamps diffuses the light a lot dazzling oncoming cars, and especially when it's wet out can cause accidents blinding oncoming cars...

So no it's not just another way for the government to screw you, it's for the safety of other road users.

[VTR-Chris]

got my MOT tomorrow lol, they had better not say a thing about my Xenons lol... never had any issues so far.

if theyre factory fit there legal

its just aftermarket kits that are banned... arent banned in the US though, anything up to 10,000k is legal

the factory fitted kits over here are about 4000k if i remember rightly

[666]

just extracted this information from hondatech.co.uk.

the person who posted this is an auto electrician with his own reputable business (evolutionice.com)



UK Government fact sheet on retrofit HID (http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps)

A web site with a bit more information on the subject (http://hid.moonfruit.com/)

nice one mate:y:

getting to old to get pulled all the time so wont be ordering hids any time soon, shame as i do like them:n:

[Tim_W]

Good job in my opinion but nothing will come of it. If your HID headlights are factory fitted then they should be ok as they are tested properly, its the after market ones they need to hit. I am sick and tired of being dazzled by tossers with overly bright headlights. It has the same effect to oncoming motorists as driving with your fog lights on.

Tim

[gazwhittle]

Aftermarket HID kits are actually putting other drivers at risk, so i think this is totally fair.

Cars which have them as standard almost always have optic lenses(projectors) to focus the beam which greatly reduces glare to other drivers. If they don't have them fitted the reflectors will have been designed specially for the job. Fitting an HID kit to a headlamp designed for tungsten halogen lamps diffuses the light a lot dazzling oncoming cars, and especially when it's wet out can cause accidents blinding oncoming cars...

So no it's not just another way for the government to screw you, it's for the safety of other road users.

Totaly agree with you. Tbh the HID headlamps that come standard with some cars are still very bright and dazzling. Even more so when your driving down country roads with a aftermarket kit fitted that blinds you 2 death.

Ban HID's all together imo nothing wrong with halogen bulbs they work and are less dazzling.

[Adam_Q]

Aftermarket HID kits are actually putting other drivers at risk, so i think this is totally fair.

Cars which have them as standard almost always have optic lenses(projectors) to focus the beam which greatly reduces glare to other drivers. If they don't have them fitted the reflectors will have been designed specially for the job. Fitting an HID kit to a headlamp designed for tungsten halogen lamps diffuses the light a lot dazzling oncoming cars, and especially when it's wet out can cause accidents blinding oncoming cars...

So no it's not just another way for the government to screw you, it's for the safety of other road users.

That sound about right :) Am I right in thinking that angels have this "projector" style lamps? I've got H.I.Ds but only running off standard headlamps, although I do have some angels waiting to be fitted :)

Hope this won't affect MOT's as I love them :(

[Mieran]

The new Honda Civic (FN2 shape), Renault Laguna (not latest model) and mini all have HIDs from the factory but without projectors, will they get pulled too?

What about the new Mazda 6? They have 6000K HIDs with projectors as standard in every model iirc but blind me all the time.

[Luke]

Rightly so, I also hate the amount of times I get dazzled by the non factory fitted ones. I have fitted some extra bright bulbs in my car, 90% brighter than standards and you can tell the difference but they are fully road legal.

They'll do me...

[louis_23]

Rightly so, I also hate the amount of times I get dazzled by the non factory fitted ones. I have fitted some extra bright bulbs in my car, 90% brighter than standards and you can tell the difference but they are fully road legal.

They'll do me...

true but factory ones dazzle you too :homme:

a range rover sport was behind me other day and i could hardly see any thing they were so bright. same driver flicked his full beams on when we both turned on to a darker lit road that was it for me then i had to pull over let him passed as i was literally in danger and couldn't see a thing :panic:

the great if you've got them but if your in front of a car with them or a car driving towards you has then i fully understand why they should be banned, plus i think they're heading towards being the next chav mod as every chav is getting them now. once again its become a case of standard ftw for me lol ;)

[Luke]

Hmm guess they do, most of time it's always on older cars I see them.

[Mieran]

You also need to remember that if your car is lowered and you're getting blinded by everyone then its because your car is so low, so its not the other drivers fault.

[CHIP]

You also need to remember that if your car is lowered and you're getting blinded by everyone then its because your car is so low, so its not the other drivers fault.

So if i had a Lotus Elise it would be my fault? Rubbish. ALOT of new cars have headlights that dazzle you rediculous amounts. Just picking on HID's isnt enough tbf, they ought to have a word with car manufacturers. But you say they're picking on HID because it's dangerous, no, it's our bloody government and police force wanting more money again.

[Mieran]

So if i had a Lotus Elise it would be my fault? Rubbish. ALOT of new cars have headlights that dazzle you rediculous amounts. Just picking on HID's isnt enough tbf, they ought to have a word with car manufacturers. But you say they're picking on HID because it's dangerous, no, it's our bloody government and police force wanting more money again.

No, I ment if your car is lowered you will be blinded by normal/standard cars because they are higher than you so their beam will be on your eye level etc. Thats why everyone complains about Range Rovers.

[Luke]

No, I ment if your car is lowered you will be blinded by normal/standard cars because they are higher than you so their beam will be on your eye level etc. Thats why everyone complains about Range Rovers.

Range Rovers affect me and I drive a 307 which is a LOT higher than even a standard Saxo.

[evans1089]

fuck i've just bought a set.. haha ! doh :n:

[CHIP]

No, I ment if your car is lowered you will be blinded by normal/standard cars because they are higher than you so their beam will be on your eye level etc. Thats why everyone complains about Range Rovers.

But you sit lower in an Elise than you do mine, and mines nearly as low as you can get a Saxo really. So they're going to be blinded more your saying? And it's their fault for being low you said? It's a standard height!

Range Rovers affect me and I drive a 307 which is a LOT higher than even a standard Saxo.

True, i've been in plenty standard height cars and still blinded by newer cars.

[shieldy]

end of the day do we sell drugs?, do we mug old people, do we commit rapes? no? so i dont see how fucking bright lights can cause anyone any harm? ffs

[VTR-Chris]

fuck the po-lice yo

[shieldy]

fuck the po-lice yo

ganster? lol and end of the day its just another way to get some more money

[Marcos]

everybody should be made to have them yellow bulbs no glare there :P

[CHIP]

end of the day do we sell drugs?, do we mug old people, do we commit rapes? no? so i dont see how fucking bright lights can cause anyone any harm? ffs

I agree completely. But i dont see how somebody came blame a person for being dazzled by saying 'their cars lowered, its your own fault' :wacko:

[wobble_vtr]

i find it more annoying when its glaring behind you

like when they are oncoming they pass in like 4 seconds, but when they are behind you and its shining in the mirrors its more annoying

[KamRacing]

i find it more annoying when its glaring behind you

like when they are oncoming they pass in like 4 seconds, but when they are behind you and its shining in the mirrors its more annoying

you do know that there is a lever on the rear view mirror to stop glare from cars behind. With the side mirrors adjust them so that they don't reflect into your eyes. Shouldn't ever have a problem from behind

There will always be situations where you will get glare from oncoming traffic, HID or not. Just slow down when visibility is a problem

[Dan]

It depends what rating they are. Most people go for 6000k plus, generally 4000k & 4.3k are ok and the glare isnt bad.

[TU-Tuning]

Ive got pulled for having a brake light out like 2 weeks ago, he checked literally everything on the car including the headlights and said he was very happy with it all, just had to get a garage to stamp a form to prove id changed the brake light. I was even asked to switch between high and low beam a few times, they made the clunking noise he obviously recognized they weren't normal bulbs and he did nothing.

Ive got 6k's, they're just white so they're not imitating the emergency services, I have them correctly aligned and Ive never had another road user flash me because of them

Not sure why you have some kind of personal vendetta against HID kits but you should really stop worrying yourself about it because no one really gives a fuck the tenth time round