Clio 172 on ITB'S 225bhp. pics added page 1... vid now on p1

[kevin_172]

I know its not a saxo but dose anyone know the power the standard pistons in the clio can take? need to know as the car is going for throttle bodies....

http://s515.photobucket.com/albums/t360/306-gti-6/?action=view&current=P1180056.flv
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
vid on da rollers

MMMMMMM bodies
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/For%20Kevin/IMG_0081.jpg

hi hi ECU
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/For%20Kevin/IMG_0083.jpg

MMMMMMM more bodies
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/For%20Kevin/IMG_0085.jpg

on the rollers :D
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/For%20Kevin/IMG_1001.jpg

[Ryan]

I expect the pistons will be the dependant on the cam choice, as to the duration and lift of the cam to valve.

Have you asked on CS as im sure a few people run bodies on OE internals.

FMP didnt mind but his was one of the highest spec in the uk

[kevin_172]

im looking at going for the k-tec cams non VVT spec and vernier pullys
dont say what lift they are on there site tho..

[Ryan]

just ask K tec if they are suitable to run on OE pistons.

Obviously the OE ones will be slightly lower compression id expect

[Karl]

Isnt the KTEC conversion, bodies, standalone, fitted.

thats it.

So I dont think they have the map for specific cams, only stock.

Worth really calling them about this as its an enthusiastic thing and no-one bar FMP (if he is on this site) is really going to know.

[Viper]

haiii kev :D

[Cal]

Isnt the KTEC conversion, bodies, standalone, fitted.Yeah it is as I've enquired about it... any other additions and you'll need to take it to RS in Leeds or somewhere similar for a remap

[kevin_172]

ah crap... may just have to run it without diff cams :(

[Cal]

They literally can just send the whole kit out to you pre mapped so you can fit it for yourself if you like... for a standard engine, although they assure me it will be for for the BTB and decat I have fitted

[kevin_172]

i would fit it myself but tbh its too cold lol would rather get the fitting done there :)

[Graeme]

what sort of power gains will these give you kev?

[leeroybrown]

Kev honestly I'd get some uprated cams for TB's to get the best effect......

[Karl]

Kev honestly I'd get some uprated cams for TB's to get the best effect......

/agree but then suddenly he's way over the 3k he initially thought it'd cost.

'Aint worth it on a car thats worth 3k. (personally)

Await 1 years time when im rolling in a bodied R reg Saxo :/

[leeroybrown]

Bit pointless having TB's with out cams to be honest

182 manifold
Decat
Exhaust
filter
Map either rs tuner or rsturning

Sorted...You'd have fun with that

[Cal]

Bit pointless having TB's with out cams to be honestFail to see how 20 odd extra bhp, more torque and 'that' noise is pointless tbh

[Karl]

All that work though Cal, and still only making the same bhp as a CTR...

I see arguments from both sides tho,

Bodied Clio's are awesome.

[Ferg]

Bodies are awesome ... But I'd want uprated Cams as well. Wouldn't want to have spent some serious Bucks and knowing I should have spent a few more pennies for more powaaaaar.

[Cal]

The power delivery will be completely different to a CTR though ie; not stupid revs to see power... weighs less, handles better. Can always add cams at a later date, its going to cost a lot more than just the KTR tb package anyway as it means buying cams, fitting, and another remap. Not cheap

[leeroybrown]

The power delivery will be completely different to a CTR though ie; not stupid revs to see power... weighs less, handles better. Can always add cams at a later date, its going to cost a lot more than just the KTR tb package anyway as it means buying cams, fitting, and another remap. Not cheap

If you want the best then you need to pay for the best

[kevin_172]

ok so i have just spoke to k-tech. 428 lift cams (keeping the VVT timing) and throttle body kit. going into k-tech on monday morning :D

[grantlowery]

ok so i have just spoke to k-tech. 428 lift cams (keeping the VVT timing) and throttle body kit. going into k-tech on monday morning :D

schweeeet.

What sort of gains will you see from that lot?

[kevin_172]

what sort of power gains will these give you kev?

ive been told at least 40+BHP but tbh that AWSOME sound u just cant beat :D

[grantlowery]

ive been told at least 40+BHP but tbh that AWSOME sound u just cant beat :D

that will be one quick clio!

just need some turinis on it now

[kevin_172]

that will be one quick clio!

just need some turinis on it now


i really have been thinking about it lately..... but not untill the summer will i look at another set of wheels...

[leeroybrown]

Make about 200-235 bhp am sure

One of the best sounds you will ever hear thats for sure

[Graeme]

how much is it costing kev?

[Bowey]

Make about 200-235 bhp am sure

One of the best sounds you will ever hear thats for sure


any one got a vid of the sounds?

[leeroybrown]

Youtube is your best bet

I dont have any at the min, cant use you tube at work

Look for a phs1 clio think he is called jesus...licks a scooby

Loads on there mate if you look

[kevin_172]

how much is it costing kev?

too much :panic:

here is a vid of how mine should sound

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fj-PmCcVjIk

[Bowey]

too much :panic:

here is a vid of how mine should sound

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fj-PmCcVjIk

oh my god i want these

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v4MdiGcVdfk

[kevin_172]

oh my god i want these

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v4MdiGcVdfk

im getting them :D

[Karl]

How much mate?

pm me!

[kevin_172]

Rough price break down (please make sure your sitting down)

450 for the fitting of the bodies
200 for the cams and mapping
545 for the cams themselves
2390 for the kit with omex 600 ECU
150 for new cambelt and tensioners

they knocked some money off the price for me as there doing a price increase tomorrow because there suppliers prices keep going up. E.G. cams are going up to 625......

[Luke]

That is a LOT of money Kev lol.

[kevin_172]

makes it a rare car to have though :D

[leeroybrown]

makes it a rare car to have though :D

Makes a fast car...very very fast car indeed..

Are you keep the front pannel or removing it Kev when the bodies are installed

[kevin_172]

i really dont know yet :S will see on the 2nd day the car is there

[Ste]

How much does the clio weigh?.

Id love to see some times, i bet it will be rapid as chuff. 240 N/A BHP - Shawinggggg

[kevin_172]

1025kg i think? erm....

[Cal]

Sounds awesome mate, I'll be very interested to see how you get on... As I'll be doing something similar come June.

Did they mention any problems running that power on standard internals/tranmission?

Good luck with it all, I'm sure it'll be amazing :y:

[Ste]

Nice, you'll have to get some drive by vids up when its done. The cost will be more than worth it imo.

Put a nice big clear 172 badge on the back :) jk

[kevin_172]

the standard internals will be fine runing 428 lift cams. if you want to go a little more stupid cam wise then u would have to look at internals. dont get me wrong after running this for a year i will be going in for forged pistons and rods and then i will try to get more power out the car!

[Cal]

Sounds ace mate, are you going with the trumpets k-tec provide in their kit? No need to cut slam panel then

[Graeme]

jelouse i am

[kevin_172]

yup i am :) thats a good thing then :D happy days! just payed the deposit :D

[rushy_23]

Kev honestly I'd get some uprated cams for TB's to get the best effect......

Hate it when people say this, yes its true powerwise. But think of whats involved
with fitting cams over just doing the bodies. Removing cam covers, changing over
the cams and arranging the belt/timing.

Thing is though, now you have had the cams fitted while the heads exposed you
may as well go for some headwork. Okay so lets add that up:
2k for bodies and ECU
500 for the cams
500 for the headwork

So your have already added another 1k on top.


It makes more sense imo to go for the bodies firstly. Then if your still eager
go for the whole hog in one go on the head/cams.

[kevin_172]

i will be looking at doing more work in a years time maybe anyways rushy. internals and that crap. i wanna see how this runs as is as to weather im happy with power or not.

[Karl]

i will be looking at doing more work in a years time maybe anyways rushy. internals and that crap. i wanna see how this runs as is as to weather im happy with power or not.

You've started now, you will be looking to squeeze every pony.


btw ~ Your signature will needa change monday @ a guess

[Cal]

I think I'll be just doing the K-tec package. I'm sure that'll keep me happy, painted covers... some Samco shizz... jobs a goodun, extra bhp/torque and that sound. Can't really justify another grand for more horseys on what is already a pretty quick car. We shall see...

[kevin_172]

cal can u make it to k-tech next wednesday or thursday or are they miles away from u?

[Karl]

they're not straight line cars to begin with though,
I was happy with 172 bhp in mine, first gear was unusable in the dry lol.

The extra speed is awesome tho.

[rushy_23]

i will be looking at doing more work in a years time maybe anyways rushy. internals and that crap. i wanna see how this runs as is as to weather im happy with power or not.

Read my post again mate. Im agreeing with your point!

I think that if your pushed for cash then setting the car up with bodies on
standard internals is fine. Driveability and bhp will go up as long as its mapped
correctly and air flow is good.

End of the day fitting the bodies doesn't involve any modifications internally to
the head. Once you go cams/headwork/pistons. Thats when you should get
in done in one go rather that continuously taking the head apart and refitting
it at each stage.

I think your going about it the right way for now :D

[kevin_172]

its amazing how everyone on here is saying oooo nice, cant wait to see it and stuff.. one other forum i posted on is slating me :(

[kevin_172]

Read my post again mate. Im agreeing with your point!

I think that if your pushed for cash then setting the car up with bodies on
standard internals is fine. Driveability and bhp will go up as long as its mapped
correctly and air flow is good.

End of the day fitting the bodies doesn't involve any modifications internally to
the head. Once you go cams/headwork/pistons. Thats when you should get
in done in one go rather that continuously taking the head apart and refitting
it at each stage.

I think your going about it the right way for now :D


thank you rushy :) thats the main reason im going for "mild" cams to start off with so i dont need to change anything. roll on monday!!! wonder what loan car there giving me O_o

[Cal]

cal can u make it to k-tech next wednesday or thursday or are they miles away from u?Nah I can't mate... miles away sorry lol

[kevin_172]

meh will have to get it to a meet near you or something so u can have a play :P

[Karl]

Loan car?
do they do it in a day?

why should someone slate you for bodying a fantastic car?

[rushy_23]

O right sorry didnt realise you are having the cams done!

Well imo if you have the mild cams fitted and the bodies I think that you will be very happy
with it (as long as its mapped well). Rather than squeezing every last ounce of BHP you want
something useable day to day as well as being a beast.

But see this is it now, as your having the cams done too, it "would" make sense to get
the headwork done while the head is all taken apart.

If you go for headwork later on they will need to take it all apart and, remove the cams
and belt etc etc and do the work then put it back together. Its like take steps back
in the future?

Ahh tbh theres so many variations of how you could have the work done. Main thing is
that it performs to your expections!

Let us all know how you get on :D :D

[Cal]

meh will have to get it to a meet near you or something so u can have a play :PSounds aaaaaaaaace mate! But if you're not aware, I'm unable to drive until June 4th this year... more than welcome to take me for a test drive though :P

[kevin_172]

from the other forum

I wasn't thinking about how it ran, just seems like an awful lot of money to spend on a road car for the sake of an extra 40 bhp. I mean how often do you really get a chance to use what power the car already has?

If it was a competition car then I could see the justification...


so all this work for maybe a meer 50hp i would rather buy a new car that has more bhp

sigh.........

[kevin_172]

Sounds aaaaaaaaace mate! But if you're not aware, I'm unable to drive until June 4th this year... more than welcome to take me for a test drive though :P

may just do that if u make any of the shows this year also :) track action will be a must...

[grantlowery]

from the other forum

I wasn't thinking about how it ran, just seems like an awful lot of money to spend on a road car for the sake of an extra 40 bhp. I mean how often do you really get a chance to use what power the car already has?

If it was a competition car then I could see the justification...


so all this work for maybe a meer 50hp i would rather buy a new car that has more bhp

sigh.........

Dont let it get to you mate!

I think its fucking ace what your doing.

[ryhornvtr]

What other forum was that?

I think its good. You wil have a quicker quick car, sound ace, and more importantly, be able to use the power day-to-day.

[kevin_172]

Won't use the power day to day. I'm a tart on the roads most of the time.... Ooooo at 2.8k insurence!! Rofl

[ryhornvtr]

How old are you?

£2.8k on insurance is mad.

[kevin_172]

26 and 6 points. i lost my licence in my first 2 years of driving :( such is life im paying 1800 fully comp as it is atm :P

[rushy_23]

It costs money man to get power out of NA engines but if I was in a position to build an
engine to the spec I wanted I wouldnt think twice.

Engine it while you can dude, as long as its a good job Im sure you will be happy.

[Ryan]

It makes more sense imo to go for the bodies firstly. Then if your still eager
go for the whole hog in one go on the head/cams.

If the standard inlet manifold design is good fitting bodies alone wont make alot of difference so its ALOT of moeny just to brag you have TBs.

The whole point of bodies is to allow you to run wild cams and retain equal airflow to each cylinder.

Much more economical and sensible to do the cams and bodies together espec factoring mapping costs.

[Ryan]

and as for the front pannel see what FMP did with his and how it was trimmed for the induction length required

[Cal]

If the standard inlet manifold design is good fitting bodies alone wont make alot of difference so its ALOT of moeny just to brag you have TBs.

The whole point of bodies is to allow you to run wild cams and retain equal airflow to each cylinder.

Much more economical and sensible to do the cams and bodies together espec factoring mapping costs.The inlets are pretty shit casting and not great design apparently. 20/30 bhp can be had by adding the kit on standard cams. And the mapping for standard car is included in the kit package... so it will cost a lot more to add cams and another custom map to the equation...

[Ryan]

The inlets are pretty shit casting and not great design apparently. 20/30 bhp can be had by adding the kit on standard cams. And the mapping for standard car is included in the kit package... so it will cost a lot more to add cams and another custom map to the equation...

I was going on the break down prices quoted, of seperate mapping fees.

GDI do the kit slightly differently aswell now that richard iirc from omex owns them. So with them it seems alot more economical to upgrade the cams at the same time as the mapping of the omex.

A 30bhp increase would be interesting on standard everything, I wouldnt have expected the inlet manifold to be that bad, the vauxhall engines work bloody well on TBs alone because of the shit OE inlets

[kevin_172]

ryan we shall see on the 18th how the car preforms :)

car just been put into the bodyshop to have the rear bumper resprayed and the dent taken out the boot and then that resprayed also.... the 4x4 down my road didnt see the little black clio at night so backed into it......

[Luke]

26 and 6 points. i lost my licence in my first 2 years of driving :( such is life im paying 1800 fully comp as it is atm :P

Never knew you lost your licence Kev.

[kevin_172]

had it back 4 weeks later.....

[Luke]

had it back 4 weeks later.....

How come you lost it or shall I guess :P

I remember when you bunny hopped it at Scotch Corner services :)

[kevin_172]

How come you lost it or shall I guess :P

I remember when you bunny hopped it at Scotch Corner services :)

fack off u. im never going to live that down am i? like at bruntingthorpe when i did a 1440 on the track......
60 in a 40... gave me 6 points for it ah well live and learn

[Luke]

Lol nah, you'll never live it down but you know I'm only messing :P

Car will be awesome with those stuff done.

[kevin_172]

really cant wait to pick it up next thursday. drive it to bournmouth monday. there giving me one of there cars so i can drive home. woooooooooo

[Ryan]

K tec is easy to find near bournemouth tbh, I park there for sunseeker rallye.

Good lluck with it dude hopefully mine wont be the only TBd one on the rollers :P

[kevin_172]

It deffo won't be :-)

[kevin_172]

well its gone! its in at k-tec and i have there twingo GT! its a right giggle and quite nippy too!

[betty02]

Quite nippy? It's v.nippy :p not as ncie as my GT though haha!

[kevin_172]

oh i think it is :) full remap, exaust system. drilled and grooved discs boost controller and a dump valve LOL

[betty02]

Yeah io had the k-tec dumo valve removed it, mines got the remap aswell, there exhaust is pretty nice my mate has it, what makes there boost controller though?

[kevin_172]

no idea lol :)

[kevin_172]

Just about to Finnish work woot!!! Praying the bonnet pins turn up today!

[kevin_172]

well there on! pity its making less than 182bhp atm..... back to k-tec monday as there taking the engine to bits :s

[Danr]

bad times Kev. Fingers crossed it's all sorted.

[Luke]

Shame mate.

Wonder whats up...

[Karl]

Suddenly 3 grand turns into 5, 6, 7...?

[Ryan]

ask austec at the weekend to see what they think.

Are they chargint to take it to bits? seeing as you have paid and its not running right after their work

[Graeme]

should of just bought a 182 :P

ijoke

must be somthing not right there mate for it to only have a 10bhp increase :S

[Ryan]

kev pull yor pants down now.

Should have gone to GDI tbh

[kevin_172]

me and sean were on the phone to andy at GDI all evening lol :( no extra charge for what there doing and im getting some free stuff also :)

[blackie_2k5]

ar well cant complain if your havin fun with the courtesy, although i would be gutted if was expectin my car then had 2 send it back, but all in the name of tuning, hope it works out 4 ya m8

[kevin_172]

off poped the fuel line at the rolling road session today....... note to self dont ever modify another car.... EVER

[Jazz]

Ah mate sorry to hear its gone a bit pete tong, hope they fix it up properly :y:

[dannygti]

so who did the work in the first place matey?

also who are you taking it to, to get it fixed?

not good about the fuel lines. youll get it sorted mate and when you do the results and teh experience will be worth it.

[kevin_172]

k-tec racing. and its going back to them tomorrow

[dannygti]

well they will have to sort it out then.
are you on CS?

the last thing a company like that needs is to get a bad reputation. i think theyll sort it out sharpish.

[Cal]

Gutted mate, this has kinda put me off lol. Last thing I want is for the car to be fucking up and having to sort a way to get it back to K-Tec.

Hope it all gets sorted :y:

[Barry123]

yeah really gutted for you mate... BUT it WILL be ok, there WILL be no lasting damage to the car and it WILL be a much bigger beast than it already is ;)

Good luck mate :)

[AlexR]

I had a ponder about it, and if it really does have uprated cams fitted, then to make the same power as me and not be misfiringly rich or lean, it's gotta be missing some throttle.
I bet it's something as simple as the throttle linkage.

[Ferg]

Hopefully you get it all sorted mate!

[kevin_172]

Tps was checked it's running 100% on the omex. We shall see as I'm at k-tec now...

[Luke]

Fingers crossed mate.

Let's hope it returns home running full potential today.

[Matty-VTR]

who mapped it

[Barry123]

who mapped it

teletubbies by the looks of print out from the RR

[Jamie]

Hmm hope it gets sorted mate, I bet you was like here goes big bhps and then smile turns upside down :(

[Matty-VTR]

teletubbies by the looks of print out from the RR

lol..

Get it mapped PROPERLY mate

[Ryan]

it was live mapped by andy from GDI today after the VVT was fixed and made healthy power....

kev was praying it did after mine made 198.4 yday :P

[Karl]

Vids needed Kev!

[dannygti]

god damn vvt... at least its sorted.
i bet it feels a bit like a weapon.....

[Barry123]

god damn vvt... at least its sorted.
i bet it feels a bit like a weapon.....

it was awesome(/shit) on the way back from austec yesterday down the m25... so I'm it'll be a creamy-pant-moistener now...

[Ryan]

at the end of the day at least kevs happy now.

i think everyone was gutted for him yday espec when the fuel line popped off seeing how upset he was.

[Matty-VTR]

it was live mapped by andy from GDI today after the VVT was fixed and made healthy power....

kev was praying it did after mine made 198.4 yday :P

Yeh Andys alright, he maps down here sometimes :y:

198bhp is good, whos rollers was that on?

[CampDavid]

Have you modded the 172 as well Ryan?

[Ryan]

Yeh Andys alright, he maps down here sometimes :y:

198bhp is good, whos rollers was that on?

MAHAs @ Austec racing

Have you modded the 172 as well Ryan?


dave it wasnt the clio I had on the rollers, sorry for the confusion twas the saxo. The clio is the same as your gti-6 is/was a sensible yet fun daily driver that doesnt draw attention to you for the wrong reasons.

[Matty-VTR]

I thought 198 bhp was the clio aswell lol

[CampDavid]

I was going to say, one for modding, one for driving to the shops. GTI-6 has gone and been replaced by an Astra Diesel. I'm not sure why

[Ryan]

sorry for confusion lol...

yep best way dave imo, espec as we know modded cars dont often like to work well, and on track mistakes happen and at the end of the day if you have a car chances are you need it for a reason in most cases, eg. to get to work.

[CampDavid]

I currently have three cars and I go to work by train. Looked at the Saxo for the first time in 12 months. It's coming back as the damn thing owes me nothing now and I can merrily bin it and not care a jot on the monday morning. Astra is for Helen to drive to work in and enjoy her first accident in more safety than the Metro. Metro is for going to Sainsburys and the tip. I only need a classic convertable and then we're sorted on a good budget car collection

[Ryan]

if you go budget convertable you will just need hair like sayer and all will be gravy :P

Saxos are still imo some of the best fun now budget cars that you can go to track in, you bend it and it often doesnt owe you alot as breaking them for parts like engine, box etc.. gets a large proportion of the moneys back

Although mines now beyond that as I need to spend more money on mapping to sort out the very apparent overfueling
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/itsafastworld85/RRgraph.jpg

[kevin_172]

Car made 185 ATW today working out about 225 ATF :D HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!!!

pics of car now on page 1 :)

[CampDavid]

I'm going totally standard on the engine. I will then claim I have no power when people pass me and when I pass them I will put it down to my frankly epic driving ability :)

[CampDavid]

Car made 185 ATW today working out about 225 ATF :D HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!!!

pics of car now on page 1 :)

How does it drive though? Good hearty sized power band?

[Ryan]

kev did they sort out the fuel line today??

I still dont like the way the omex is sitting there with no weather sealing on the plugs and loom end.

[Ryan]

I'm going totally standard on the engine. I will then claim I have no power when people pass me and when I pass them I will put it down to my frankly epic driving ability :)

just do what most civic type R owners seem to do on track, sit on the racing line holding everyone up, but not letting anyone pass becaue they clearly are inferior for not having vtec :P

[kevin_172]

the power is really really nice..... so much better than befor. facking VVT....

[kevin_172]

Ryan can u change your Sig pls.... its WRONG

[Ryan]

what to 198.4...

im waiting till ive had the map played with first :P

and answer the damn fuel line question :homme:

[kevin_172]

the O ring was wankered... thats why it came off. so new O ring and cable tied on.

[craigy_87]

good news man :y:
when can we expect videos :D

[Cal]

Is it hugely quicker mate? How does it sound?

Not liking the look of the tie wraps or the exposed omex either tbh, but I'm sure the drive makes up for it. Would get them to paint all my covers and shit while they are there when I do it and also go for the magnecor leads, bit of Samco here and there and it should look pretty tidy.

Come pick me up lol I wanna hear this thing and see how it goes!

[kevin_172]

u want me to come to wales to show u the car! when? :P and u better have a sofa and a good night out planned!!!

[steven1451]

gorgeous car made bet its quick as fuck would love to have the money to do something like this bet it sounds immense:y:

[leeroybrown]

Been waiting for someone on here to do this for a while...

Does look rather good tbh, few bits that can be easily be sorted.

You need to do a Vid Kev..

Is the standard clutch still in it?...Be interesting to see how long it lasts

[kevin_172]

yeah it is. because there is no major rise in torque the clutch will be fine :) thats why i love N/A engines :D ill try take a vid ASAP

[Jamie]

Looks nice :) some tidying up and it will be mint in the engine bay

[jpsaxo]

Good work Kev, cant wait to see how this performs round the ring in the summer :D

[rushy_23]

Excellent result mate. Glad it got sorted in the end :D

[Matty-VTR]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5jl7M3-tiIs&feature=channel_page

Expect it sounds like that now ;)

[Graeme]

Very jelouse kev!

Wish I had the money to do this

[CampDavid]

Nice

I'd be tempted to extend the loom and put the ECU in the car. That way it's safe and you can always pull it out when you leave the car, which would be the best imobiliser ever

[kevin_172]

the ECU will be fine where it is (confirmed by omex themselves) all the boards in the casing are sealed anyway. i may look at getting the air sensor tapped into one of the trumpets though

[kevin_172]

http://s515.photobucket.com/albums/t360/306-gti-6/?action=view&current=P1180056.flv

[Cupra-Craig]

When i may be joinin you soon bud with a clio an with the sound of them sounds just like my 106 did an it may not be long before i want them again!!

[Karl]

Fair jealous,
I need some $$$ for some bodies. lol.

[kevin_172]

Speak to andy at Gdi. 1620+ vat for everything you need including stand alone ecu.

[c8james]

Car made 185 ATW today working out about 225 ATF :D HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!!!

pics of car now on page 1 :)

nice, glad you got it sorted.

[jpsaxo]

I was in FMP's at fcs last year running 240bhp and that was a rocket !! :D

[kevin_172]

he was running 422 cams i think?

[Luke]

Looks nice Kev, worth the money?

[kevin_172]

ohhhhh yes :D

[Luke]

ohhhhh yes :D

No chance of K-Tec going out of business whilst you are around ;)

[leeroybrown]

I was in FMP's at fcs last year running 240bhp and that was a rocket !! :D

I swear my mate Lazy bought his engine!

[jpsaxo]

Its a bloody good engine that is for sure!

[KamRacing]

is it possible to fit a panel filter rather than socks or is there just no room?

[leeroybrown]

Sure they it a kit you can Kam

Other wise they remove or cut some of the front pannel

[KamRacing]

well its just the bonnet curves round steeply so its whether theres enough room. I think there would be a small gain as the filter ideally should be at least an inch away from the bellmouths...

[Cal]

u want me to come to wales to show u the car! when? :P and u better have a sofa and a good night out planned!!!Hahaha best wait till I'm out of the plaster cast then lol! Think you'd be dissapointed with my local night out lol but you're more than welcome mate :P

[kevin_172]

it is wales i guess lol :P

[yorkie]

haha looks fun kev i will be letting you take me round da ring in it!! lol