saxo drivers door unlock problem !

[steve799]

my drivers door wont unlock so i have to climb across the pasengers side !! :wall:

it is only a 1996 model so does not have central locking , what should i do , do you think something may have just come loose ?

how should i remove the door card to enable me to have a look ! thankyou in a
dvance

[Peejous]

Door card iirc is just one torx screw in the inside handle bit.
Then it just pops off on little clips.

THERE MAY BE ANOTHER TORX SCREW I CANT REMEMBER

Once it's off check the rods etc.

Take it the key goes in the lock and turns but doesn't pop the little titty knob thing?

[pete0527]

tough one, so it will unlock from the inside but not the out side? Could be the lock had broken, its only a plastic clip after all! Good news is changing the locks is a doddle. Door car is just screwed and clipped on.

[steve799]

sorry i should have been more detailed


it was playing up for a while sometimes working sometimes not , and sort of got worse

now

it wont unlock from the inside or outside !!


on the outside the key goes in and turns a bit but the knob wont cum up


on the inside if i try to pull the knob up it just moves about 1mm if that and wont come up as it should

[Peejous]

on the inside if i try to pull the knob up it just moves about 1mm if that and wont come up as it should

Can you not open the door at all?

[steve799]

nope door wont open at all !! , probably a good idea to remove door card and have a look do you think ?

[Peejous]

nope door wont open at all !! , probably a good idea to remove door card and have a look do you think ?

You're going to struggle to remove the door car if you cant open the door.

[steve799]

oh right , do you need the door open to remove it then ?

[Peejous]

Does the dashboard wrap round the one edge of the door card? I cant remember.
It did on the Mk2 were the dashboards the same?

[steve799]

http://www.carbay.co.uk/uploads/vehicleimages/large/citroen-saxo-1998-142-2056.jpg

only pic i can find !

not my car and not the right side of the car !!!

but it is the same as that is on the drivers side ?

[djrem]

The solution is to change the lock.
The problem is to get the door card off you need the door open.

The Torx bolts are accessible from along the door sill but this is blocked in the interior.

You may need to pick up a replacement door card if you take it off aggressively.

[Ben_L]

have you tried spraying a tiny bit of wd40 in the lock? I used to have a similar problem (key not turning int he lock) on my old car

[Peejous]

The solution is to change the lock.
The problem is to get the door card off you need the door open.

The Torx bolts are accessible from along the door sill but this is blocked in the interior.

You may need to pick up a replacement door card if you take it off aggressively.

This is the only way I can see you getting it off mate.

Dashboard and seat will be in the way.

Rem am I right in thinking there is a torx screw between the dashboard and the door card where they meet?

[chinkostu]

have you tried spraying a tiny bit of wd40 in the lock? I used to have a similar problem (key not turning int he lock) on my old car

try this first, my drivers door lock is dodgy so i give it a blast of wd every few weeks

[Ben_L]

yes there is...

one there, one in the handle bit and the rest is poppers i believe

[pete0527]

with a bit of patience you should be able to get the card off with the door closed, might require new clips tho! Your going to need to use some force after all!

[Ben_L]

with a bit of patience you should be able to get the card off with the door closed, might require new clips tho! Your going to need to use some force after all!

no chance at all without either removing dash board or cutting the door card in half!

[djrem]

On my old 106, it slides on to the top and pop into place.
Then the torx bolts are in the bottom and sides near the handle.

I would recommend cutting the door card with a stanly knife in the middle of the release inside the car (the door handle) and the door look.

Make a lateral rectangular incision and then use that to manually unlock the lock system with a screw driver and a set of pliers.

It is fiddily work, and have a magnet ready for anything you drop into the door card prior to getting the door open.

Definately one to do in your garage as you could get stuck half way with a car that is easy to get into.

[LSOfreak]

if wd40 wont do the trick, you could undo the torx bolt where the grab handle is in the middle, but seeing as you cant get to the other one in the corner behind the dash, maybe ur only choice is to muller it. to unclip the clips, start at the corner nearest the rear wheel and just pull the doorcard. you will hear it unclipping quite loud. usually one or two of the clips break but there like 20p each from citroen. what pattern doorcard is it? some are more common than others if u have to hacksaw it off

[Ben_L]

just thinking, thats goign to be a shit to get off because it hooks onto the top and the rubber seal presses against the bottom does it not? its going to be hard without opening the door.

sounds like the lock has ceased up to me

[LSOfreak]

well if worse comes to worse - things can be done....

[steve799]

tried a few things , wd40 no use , tried to turn key hard ... almost snapped it so decided not to do that , had a look at the other door and the only screw i can see at all is the one that i am unable to get to on the drivers door due to it ot opening , oh dear :( .. what to do ..,...

[djrem]

Replacement doors arent alot.
Could be a day out with the angle grinder...

[Peejous]

Just thinking.... can you not get a screw driver of some sort on the catch from the inside to release it?

But if the doors locked that wont work will it?

I honestly have no idea.

Ill just talk to myself.

[steve799]

i have no idea either :D !! don't want to really cut the door card to bits as im looking to sell car soon and upgrade !!,

definetly dont want to take it anywhere cos im skint ( well almost) !!


uh oh !

[Peejous]

You may be able to just bend half of the door card around just enough to get your hand in to push the pin up etc. without undoing BOTH torx screws, you will need to undo the one in the handle bit though.

[steve799]

the one in the handle ? is that the bit on the inside handle that has a little plastic 'cover' on ? seems hard to get off to me ? shoudl i jst get a knife and get it off ?

[Peejous]

No!

There is a Torx screw sitting in the bottom of the handle (the handle on the door card inside the car)

Undo that the door card will then be held in place by little wanky plastic clips that you can buy from shitreon so dont worry about breaking them but try not to, and one torx screw and the front of the door card between the dashboard and the door.

You should be able to prise the card off at an angle.

[steve799]

Really sorry to be a pain mate but i just cant find a screw around the handle at all ??

is it actuli in the handle or do i need to pull something off ??

[Peejous]

If the door card is the same as the Mk2 ones then:

Sit in the drivers seat
Look at the door card
You see the handle thing that you use to close the door
Look Inside that. In the middle at the bottom under a lot of fluff and crap you should see it.

[steve799]

oooooh yer , i see what you mean now , so i i can get my hand or something in there i mite be able to just fiddle aroudn and soemhow get the flippin lock up so i can open the door and have a proper mooch !

cheers

[Peejous]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199716

Post # 3 in that thread above ^

See the fucking hole in the handle

Torx screw goes there

Undo the bastard

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/images/buttons/post_thanks.gif Button when you're ready. It's just here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V V V V V V

[LSOfreak]

dudes got the right idea

[steve799]

im unable to access that link ! , im gunna go and have a fiddle anyway

[steve799]

Had a look AND the things fu**ed !!! , i cant get the door open the door knob is going up but doing nothing

wen i pull one of the other handles on the outside of the car you can hear a sort of spring noise even wen lockd as if its pulling on something , drivers door does nothing so something has obviously become disconnected

looks like the only option is goin to be break the bastard door card and then find a new mk1 saxo door card ...

sounds fun .. NOT !

[Brains73]

Hi, I have just the same issue on my wife's 2000 (w) Saxo, i hope this solves your problem.

Like you, the driver door would not open from inside or out. I stripped the passenger door to find out what the problem was. The door card was removed by removing the window winder (prise-off using 2 scrwedrivers) speaker grill panel, door mirror adjuster panel and the torx screws (T-20) from the door pull recess and from the front top corner of the panel under the mirror adjuster. Now just release the panel from the door at the bottom and sides and lift upwards and free from the door. Once off the sealing sheet was peeled back and the lock mechanism inspected (inside the door). I found that there is a small lever that moves on the lock mechanism when the outside handle is pulled. This lever prevents the door from being unlocked.

I then managed to remove the driver door panel enough to get my hand in and check this lever. I found that it was sticking and not springing back as it should. A spray of WD40 sorted this out and the door now works ok.

I hope this solves your problem.