106 vtr engined - idle problems

[106-vtr]

hi i have just got a 106 with a saxo vtr engine in it was fine for the first day then today and the revs just sit at 3k!! does any one know what this could be?

thanks in advance

[Mochachino]

hi i have just got a 106 with a saxo vtr engine in it was fine for the first day then today and the revs just sit at 3k!! does any one know what this could be?

thanks in advance

does it do it in any relation to the tempreture of the engine? like, only when its hot and switched on etc

[3cott]

try the idel control valve

[106-vtr]

na it is as soon as you turn the key i drove for about a mile and it didnt change as soon as you take it out of gear or put your foot on the cluch it goes right to 3k?

[106-vtr]

try the idel control valve

where abouts is this located?

thanks

[Mochachino]

Yeh could be your idle control valve, try giving it a clean, might have stuck.

Try this:

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174710

If that fails, could possibly be the MAP, LAMBDA or Engine coolant temp sensor.

[106-vtr]

thanks ill give that a go if it stops snowing tomorrow.

how much is it for all the sensors menconed? and a new isv?

[Mochachino]

thanks ill give that a go if it stops snowing tomorrow.

how much is it for all the sensors menconed? and a new isv?


Cant rmember off hand tbh. ICV cost me £30, MAP sensor you can get from a scrappy for like £5 or slip it same for the lambda, for the lambda new from a dealer about £80 onwards :y:

[Alexvtrmk1]

Might be your throttle cable sticking over 3rmp. check the butterfly (air inlet) :)

[Mochachino]

Also there just starting points, and the more common reasons. They wont neccesarily sort your problem out, but u can iliminate them.

You can get a diognostics for about £40 and see if any fualts have shown up on the ECU log.

[106-vtr]

thanks guys. i checked the throttle cable and adjusted it seemed fine. ill check the butterfly when i try the isv. can any one show me where the map and lambda sensors are?

[vtss]

thanks guys. i checked the throttle cable and adjusted it seemed fine. ill check the butterfly when i try the isv. can any one show me where the map and lambda sensors are?

if u look along your exhaust in around the engine u should see a sensor with 4 wires coming out of it.its usually a 21mm.unplug the wires and screw it out:y:

[Mochachino]

you got silver or black top engine?

[106-vtr]

you got silver or black top engine?

how can you tell? i know its from 02

[Mochachino]

silver top. And by the colour of the rocker cover ;) lol

MAP sensor should* be:

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg33/dan_sax/saxp%20guides/DSC02413-1.jpg

[106-vtr]

lol mine has had the rocker cover painted. how else can i tell

[Mochachino]

lol mine has had the rocker cover painted. how else can i tell

You have HT leads or Coilpack? not sure if that matters, but would help.

[106-vtr]

here is a photo of the bay if this helps
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh250/GTI-Jay/100_3963.jpg

[Mochachino]

nice bay. Samish place as the pic i gave ya! just like facing rocker cover :y:

[106-vtr]

nice bay. Samish place as the pic i gave ya! just like facing rocker cover :y:


yeah looks nice in there but there is loads of problems. the guy i got it off forgot to tell me about the problems and bodged a lot of it.

[Mochachino]

guted? is it an xsi shell?

[106-vtr]

guted? is it an xsi shell?

yeah just posted pics in the photo section

do you know it? or who did all the work?

[Mochachino]

yeah just posted pics in the photo section

do you know it? or who did all the work?

Nah was just asking out of interest. Just guessed from the pic u posted up.

Il check it out:)

[106-vtr]

i have found what i think too be the problem if i unplug this:
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh250/GTI-Jay/03022009734-1.jpg
it idles a little better but not great. is this the MAP sensor?

also if u look to the left the oil breather thing has snaped off the box(not sure of the boxes name) could this cause any problems?

[106-vtr]

any one? any help would be great. thanks

[Mochachino]

yeh thats the map sensor. and if the snapped pipe is after where the icv and throttle is then it might be letting more air in that it thinks.