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leeroybrown
9th February 2009, 09:03
Morning All,
Looking to here from people who have both mount done on there Saxo.
I no replacing the lower engine mount, with the uprated Powerflex one, gives off a little vibration. What i want to know is, if you have replaced the top engine mount with a Group N one and did it elimate all the vibrating altogether, or did it make it worse.
Is it worth having the combation of 2, or just one of them?
Thanks
Leesoy
Steve
9th February 2009, 09:06
eliminated for me and ron, makes car solid, a bit hard if just going to be for road use imo
also run the dreaded risk of snapping the casing off the top of your gearbox, as some members already have done.
leeroybrown
9th February 2009, 09:12
So it maybe only worth using the lower engine mount then, which isnt had hard as the top one.
Steve
9th February 2009, 09:52
So it maybe only worth using the lower engine mount then, which isnt had hard as the top one.
i would just stick with the lower.
the vibrations are only on idle really tbh and its not that bad.
leeroybrown
9th February 2009, 09:54
Cheers
Will Scrap the uprated top one idea then
jpsaxo
9th February 2009, 10:18
top one will make the women enjoy there "ride" more :D
haha, if your fitting the group n ecu one youll want to fit the g/box one as well!
leeroybrown
9th February 2009, 10:20
Just the lower engine mount on JP.
I wanna use the car everyday without having to smash my teeth together just to get to work :}
williamsvts
9th February 2009, 10:39
steve - thought you just had the 2 gearbox mounts?
leeroy, mine top grp n mount made my car vibrate like fuck. dash nearly fell out haha
jpsaxo
9th February 2009, 12:33
haha williams :D its almost impossible to speak to the passenger with them in, bring it on :D
leeroybrown
9th February 2009, 12:33
Decision made then
I wanna keep my teeth lol
jaybiss
9th February 2009, 12:47
i use a lower powerflex and it only vibrates the car when its cold and is idleing at just above 1k rpm
when its warm there is no vibrations at all as the car idles under 1k rpm
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 12:53
Makes ya engine feel solid like said. But on the cold start ups the whole dash vibrates LOADS and u can hear it outside the car on mine vibrating, abit like a sub when its up loud vibrating the dash.
Thats with Grp N upper and lower mounts btw, i well reccomend it though!
Barry123
9th February 2009, 12:54
i use a lower powerflex and it only vibrates the car when its cold and is idleing at just above 1k rpm
when its warm there is no vibrations at all as the car idles under 1k rpm
pretty much the same as jays... I won't be uprating the upper mounts, it vibrates at idle but I'm rarely idling. Either way it's not bother.
But the improvements it offers change the feel of the car considerably...
Steve
9th February 2009, 12:56
Makes ya engine feel solid like said. But on the cold start ups the whole dash vibrates LOADS and u can hear it outside the car on mine vibrating, abit like a sub when its up loud vibrating the dash.
Thats with Grp N upper and lower mounts btw, i well reccomend it though!
mine doesnt rattle at all :D
saxo_ron
9th February 2009, 13:14
Ive got the powerflex lower engine mount and a grp N gearboxmount and I suffer from zero rattles in my car. Adding the grp N actually got rid of some rattles.
williamsvts
9th February 2009, 13:30
mine doesnt rattle at all :D
because you dont have the ecu mount.
Liam_
9th February 2009, 13:34
I'm happy with just the Powerflex lower tbh. Get a little vibration through the wheel on idle and a few rattles when pulling away, but that's it.
The engine has bugger all swing with the Powerflex lower fitted so I don't see what advantage the upper gearbox makes.
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:35
because you dont have the ecu mount.
and? lol
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 13:36
I'm happy with just the Powerflex lower tbh. Get a little vibration through the wheel on idle and a few rattles when pulling away, but that's it.
The engine has bugger all swing with the Powerflex lower fitted so I don't see what advantage the upper gearbox makes.
just over exagerate the upper mounts, imagine the standard upper ones as, a pillow and the uprated grp N's as solid metal, the standard ones will give the engine more freedom to rise etc, when cornering and stuff.
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 13:37
and? lol
ECU one makes the most difference apparently.
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:38
ECU one makes the most difference apparently.
al probably be getting one once my contact has developed them ;)
dont know what difference it would make now though, engine barely moves at all tbh lol
williamsvts
9th February 2009, 13:38
and? lol
thats why you didnt have any rattles.
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:38
thats why you didnt have any rattles.
which is a good thing no? lol
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 13:39
al probably be getting one once my contact has developed them ;)
dont know what difference it would make now though, engine barely moves at all tbh lol
How much they gonna be selling at?
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:40
How much they gonna be selling at?
not be expensive, got the last lot for £26 delivered :D
were you not in the group buy and bought the 106 s1 ecu by mistake?
His project atm is making diffs to be cheaper than quaffe so be some time before he gets onto these.
williamsvts
9th February 2009, 13:40
which is a good thing no? lol
stating yours doesnt rattle coz you havent got all the N mounts.
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:41
stating yours doesnt rattle coz you havent got all the N mounts.
good statement :p
Liam_
9th February 2009, 13:42
So when are monkey motorsport starting production of these Group N mounts? ;)
leeroybrown
9th February 2009, 13:42
Thanks for the comments guys
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 13:43
not be expensive, got the last lot for £26 delivered :D
were you not in the group buy and bought the 106 s1 ecu by mistake?
His project atm is making diffs to be cheaper than quaffe so be some time before he gets onto these.
I got my lower mount and the B82REZ mount at the same time, jst before the group buy. Then my mate linked me to the S1 ECU mount on ebay, n i bought it without reading the description lol. Sold that now anyway.
Do they do the b82rez mounts in the grp N kits?
Il deffo have this grp N mount btw :p :y: once u made it in ya shed.
williamsvts
9th February 2009, 13:44
So when are monkey motorsport starting production of these Group N mounts? ;)
made some solid lower mounts before, for s blue vts turbo, was in performance gti a couple year ago. havent got time at them min to make any.
williamsvts
9th February 2009, 13:45
steve - whos 'developing' these mounts then? that a posh word for group buy?
leeroybrown
9th February 2009, 13:46
Steve
It must be hard as well on cold up then is it?
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:46
I got my lower mount and the B82REZ mount at the same time, jst before the group buy. Then my mate linked me to the S1 ECU mount on ebay, n i bought it without reading the description lol. Sold that now anyway.
Do they do the b82rez mounts in the grp N kits?
Il deffo have this grp N mount btw :p :y: once u made it in ya shed.
b82rez = the battery mount? lol
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 13:47
b82rez = the battery mount? lol
i was trying to save time :oops:
ali G
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:48
steve - whos 'developing' these mounts then? that a posh word for group buy?
no, the guy actually makes them.
They mainly do 205 rally parts, but now do 106's/saxos and other cars, guys spot on tbh.
Steve
It must be hard as well on cold up then is it?
not really feels the same tbh
there isnt a massive difference when the uppers fitted, just something feels different to make you notice its there, cant really describe it.
Only thing with it is i am very causious where i drive especially with pot holes after seeing photos on rallyereg/ssc where the top of the gearbox has ripped off.
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 13:54
no, the guy actually makes them.
They mainly do 205 rally parts, but now do 106's/saxos and other cars, guys spot on tbh.
is it baker Bushes?
http://www.bakerbm.com/106.php?data=engkitn106
Steve
9th February 2009, 13:55
is it baker Bushes?
http://www.bakerbm.com/106.php?data=engkitn106
thats not him, but they are cheap lol
Mochachino
9th February 2009, 13:56
thats not him, but they are cheap lol
yeh they aint bad, thats who i got my mounts from.
Also used a different name ages ago, cant rmemeebr though sumthing like 106sport/106 racing, pugracing/pugsport.
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