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NICK2506
18th February 2009, 16:43
I dont get it.

Why are all chavvy looking, 2003 style, large bodykits, oversized wheels etc modified cars now just called show cars?

Most people hate that style but say its okay for a show car. Shouldnt show cars still be nice?? or are shows just grave yards for old styled cars?

Why cant euro cars be show cars?

Does anyone else see where im coming from??

Spanky
18th February 2009, 16:47
i totally understand where your coming from.

Personally i call them "Shit Cars" as now thats how they look, some cars can still pull it off mine but only if done properly.

Hannah_VTR
18th February 2009, 16:47
yeah i get you all chavvy cars with cheap looking body kits that just look sh*t are called show cars yet someone thats has a better car with better mods that arnt ott and in ya face its just called a normal car

VTEC-Saxo
18th February 2009, 16:48
im buildin one now

91mikec
18th February 2009, 16:48
i know where your coming from mate.
u saying a tasty looking complete original in pristine condition such as golf mk1 or vw beetle or 205 gti are just as worthy (if not more worthy imo) as "show cars"?
correct me if i got the wrong idea about this thread.

djflipsaxo
18th February 2009, 16:59
i love euro looking cars, i also think kitted cars can be ace too.
the thing that spoilt it was people attatching tin cans and making kits out of cardboard.

xthedavidx
18th February 2009, 17:02
Why do people do this to wreck there's car I really don't get.

NICK2506
18th February 2009, 17:02
yeah, stylishly modified cars (like most of the cars on here) aren't show cars.

But tacky looking cars like this one are classed as "show cars":

http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/m/000/a1/74/5571_19.JPG

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/m/000/a1/74/55b3_19.JPG

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/m/000/a1/74/570e_19.JPG

djflipsaxo
18th February 2009, 17:06
some show cars cost alot, there not ALL tack!

xthedavidx
18th February 2009, 17:10
But the way some people genually drive "Show cars" Some drive with care, Others just kit them up and drive like a prick :n:

NICK2506
18th February 2009, 17:17
i dont mind some being show cars if they are done very well, but if someone tries to say that a saxo with tuned engine, lowered, nice vts or other wheels (15" or 16") is a show car people will be like its hardly a show car, and people just see show cars as those cheap tacky modified chav cars.
Personally i think a car like preds is as much a show car as that red one i posted pics of in this thread, but if someone called preds a show car everyone would be like how is it a show car.

VTEC-Saxo
18th February 2009, 17:22
pah hate them sort of show cars chav cars more like lol :P im creatin a new style boys ;)

Grant
18th February 2009, 17:28
yeah, stylishly modified cars (like most of the cars on here) aren't show cars.

But tacky looking cars like this one are classed as "show cars":

http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/m/000/a1/74/5571_19.JPG

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/m/000/a1/74/55b3_19.JPG

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/m/000/a1/74/570e_19.JPG

probably wouldnt be seen dead in that.

theres a kid by me thats got a mk3 fiesta which has been two toned (the oil colours) stupid body kit and a MASSIVE spoiler.. looks awful, and he thinks people look at it because its nice. ill try and get a pic of it.

NICK2506
18th February 2009, 17:29
haa yeah try get a pic mate :y:

wellsy
18th February 2009, 17:43
I think that the reason people get this perception is because when they go to a show. They want to see something totally modded out. Thats how the shows advertise and its what gets people in the gate.

However I have been to many shows and seen some standard cars that are totally mint, and they impress me just as much as any other.

It works the other way around aswell.

My car is heavily modified and i would probably class it as a show car. But when people tell me its a bag of shit and then all they've done to theirs is lower it with some 15" alloys and a painted rocker cover, thinking they're a genius really gets on my tits!!

If you went to a circus, you'd wanna see a circus, noit a room full of normal people with nice shoes on.

If you catch my drift :)

NICK2506
18th February 2009, 17:49
I think that the reason people get this perception is because when they go to a show. They want to see something totally modded out. Thats how the shows advertise and its what gets people in the gate.

However I have been to many shows and seen some standard cars that are totally mint, and they impress me just as much as any other.

It works the other way around aswell.

My car is heavily modified and i would probably class it as a show car. But when people tell me its a bag of shit and then all they've done to theirs is lower it with some 15" alloys and a painted rocker cover, thinking they're a genius really gets on my tits!!

If you went to a circus, you'd wanna see a circus, noit a room full of normal people with nice shoes on.

If you catch my drift :)

thats a completley fair point mate, and from your avaitar your car looks nice and im not suprised you get annoyed by people lowering and adding just wheels, but what annoys me is that every car now that people think are shit are just show cars.
so many people hate those type of cars and will say i hate this car but i spose its ok for a show car. its like any crap modified car is just a show car, but then stylishly modified cars arent show cars.

Grant
18th February 2009, 17:50
his street is the next one down from mine, drove down so i wasnt standing outside takin pics, but then i realised theres a path between his and the next street so managaed to get a close up without being seen ;)

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/GrantMiles/Photo282.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/GrantMiles/Photo283.jpg

Hannah_VTR
18th February 2009, 18:55
his street is the next one down from mine, drove down so i wasnt standing outside takin pics, but then i realised theres a path between his and the next street so managaed to get a close up without being seen ;)

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/GrantMiles/Photo282.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/GrantMiles/Photo283.jpg

haha looks awful people dont look at him and think nice car they think what a twat

Paul
18th February 2009, 19:04
Alot of the 'new' car enthusiasts have been brought up in a different 'community' compared to the 'older' car enthusiasts.

With all different styles you get good and bad. I'm sure there are 'shit looking' euro cars out there. There are good 'kitted' cars out there but alot of people don't appreciate the work gone into them. Back when they were in fashion lots of people loved them.

Now euro and track are 'in fashion' everyone thinks they look good.

In five years time there 'probably' will be new car enthusiasts laughing at your tastes and saying euro looks shit.

I completely agree with wellsy. I appreciate most cars modified properly and professionally weather they're track euro or kitted.

NICK2506
18th February 2009, 19:09
looks pretty bad that tbh. although ive seen alot worse. i reckon in a few years people will start putting bodykits on again, or at least aftermarket spoilers etc... i dunno why, i just have a feeling they will.

Grant
18th February 2009, 19:11
what makes it worse is the cars in the area that are modified are subtle, like most on here so you just appreciate the standard looks of the car. so you can imagine how his stands out.

Rob-6
18th February 2009, 19:15
much prefer subtle mods stuff that looks factory

saxokid100
18th February 2009, 19:31
Realy like modified cars with skirts and splitters on ,but realy not into jap style bumpers...........:fcuk::y::p

NICK2506
18th February 2009, 19:42
yeah i reckon skirts and spliiters and spoilers will come back in the next few years.

JamesR
18th February 2009, 20:14
i think there called "show cars" because they have the chavvy bodykits, which look like the sort of styling of supercars, and also because there all show and no go.

and maybe because they look a show? lmfao

kcsaxo
18th February 2009, 20:17
wild and wacky kits have always been associated with the show car scene, no point bringing a near-standard car to the show unless its had serious engine work done to it and is scratchless in the paint dept.

as long as the material of the kit is keeping up with the times and what is available then it will always be made to look good.

Sunday
18th February 2009, 20:24
his street is the next one down from mine, drove down so i wasnt standing outside takin pics, but then i realised theres a path between his and the next street so managaed to get a close up without being seen ;)

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/GrantMiles/Photo282.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/GrantMiles/Photo283.jpg

yeah, stylishly modified cars (like most of the cars on here) aren't show cars.

But tacky looking cars like this one are classed as "show cars":

http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/m/000/a1/74/5571_19.JPG

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/m/000/a1/74/55b3_19.JPG

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/m/000/a1/74/570e_19.JPG

i wish i could drive something like them, they look shocking!:afro:

Kerryc
18th February 2009, 21:20
i pesonally think its chavs that were born rich and have too much money on their hands from mummy and daddy, which makes them think all the expensive stuff from halfords make them cool... and with them bodge jobbing it themselfs makes them cooler :homme:

Grant
18th February 2009, 22:12
probably one of my favourite (if not my favourite) cars on here

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123474&page=35

NICK2506
18th February 2009, 23:14
expensive stuff from halfords

:fcuk:

vts_nico
19th February 2009, 01:53
a guy i know used to have an opel astra with a huge shogun spoiler attached to it, some chrome wheels and a shitload of stickers. looked like crap imo and he still took it out to every meeting to show it off :D

djflipsaxo
19th February 2009, 08:54
Alot of the 'new' car enthusiasts have been brought up in a different 'community' compared to the 'older' car enthusiasts.

With all different styles you get good and bad. I'm sure there are 'shit looking' euro cars out there. There are good 'kitted' cars out there but alot of people don't appreciate the work gone into them. Back when they were in fashion lots of people loved them.

Now euro and track are 'in fashion' everyone thinks they look good.

In five years time there 'probably' will be new car enthusiasts laughing at your tastes and saying euro looks shit.

I completely agree with wellsy. I appreciate most cars modified properly and professionally weather they're track euro or kitted.


good call.
totlly agree on this

djflipsaxo
19th February 2009, 09:05
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t191/minger0210/camera094.jpg

this was my first experience with a kitted car, it was my patners. he never got around to finishing it before he sold it. this car was not bodged and was loked after better than i was lol.
it was his pride and joy, some didnt like it, some did.
i felt good driving it because driving past othe kitted cas than have been done badly showed how much he really looked after it.
it was only a furio but he had plans to put in a vts engine, but it was impractial to go too fast in it lol. but it was more for shows

Jamie
19th February 2009, 09:10
good call.
totlly agree on this

I agree on what you agreed with

i wish i could drive something like them, they look shocking!:afro:

& that car is not a show car. Its just a car done in someones shed by the looks of it.

Youl know a real show car when you see one. Everything is done properly to the highest standards no expense spared. They cost a bomb, good example...

The car below cost like 90k, mad but amazing.

http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200602/totof206quick_1140971946_dsc01706.jpg

djflipsaxo
19th February 2009, 09:11
looks nice.
its nice to see cars like this

Kerryc
19th February 2009, 12:26
:fcuk:

You got me there, you know what i mean lol

GrantM
19th February 2009, 12:50
A good show car should never be practical, thats why its called a show car.

Scott
19th February 2009, 12:56
I much prefer the scene from a few years ago. VTS wheels and lowered doesnt make a car show when you have 100 saxos looking exactly the same lined up next to each other.

Bring back FCS 04, 05, trax 05 etc...

http://www.saxperience.com/photos/photo3143.jpg
http://www.saxperience.com/photos/photo1352.jpg

AlexB
19th February 2009, 13:00
show cars arent nessecrily kitted cars
there cars built purely to go to shows with

a lot of the new euro cars are show cars imo
look at chandlers saxo for example
it was built purely to take to shows so is a show car

lewza
19th February 2009, 13:04
The euro look really isnt nice imo!
Dont get me wrong, most of the body kits are horrible and will make your car look a pile of shit but if you choose the right things and the right mods it can also be really nice!!

craig180
19th February 2009, 13:13
I much prefer the scene from a few years ago. VTS wheels and lowered doesnt make a car show when you have 100 saxos looking exactly the same lined up next to each other.

Bring back FCS 04, 05, trax 05 etc...



I agree to a certain extent but just look at this from Trax last year:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/saxo180/trax2008081.jpg

4 saxos, all similar style but all totally different. One thing to bear in mind when referring to styles is that "Euro" for example can be so diverse, as can "track", "Show" and so on and so on.

I see modifying cars and car styles as being a bit like fashion. There are good, bad and the downright ugly, but each genre has an audience.

I like one thing, the guy with the kitted up saxo on 19s with a huge spoiler likes something else. What's to say I am right and he is wrong? IMO there is no right or wrong when it comes to modifying, only what you want to achieve

wellsy
19th February 2009, 13:23
You get what you pay for with kits. There are so many cheap shit examples of body kits that bring the good ones down.

The funny thing about this conversation is that you can now get 'euro' kits for some cars. So you can do both! lmfao!!

wobble_vtr
19th February 2009, 13:28
im not keen on the whole massive body kit cars.

but everyday on here the same thing is said "black wheels, dropped 40 or 60, smoked jewels, smoked headlights...." and its a general 'fashion' thats amoungst us, but every car turning out pretty much identicle. not having a go, i like the look, but there are people out there who see it and are saying the exact same as we are about the kitted cars.

just down to personal taste imo, and in the end, the chavvy bastards will try imitate and eventually ruin it

craig180
19th February 2009, 13:32
im not keen on the whole massive body kit cars.

but everyday on here the same thing is said "black wheels, dropped 40 or 60, smoked jewels, smoked headlights...." and its a general 'fashion' thats amoungst us, but every car turning out pretty much identicle. not having a go, i like the look, but there are people out there who see it and are saying the exact same as we are about the kitted cars.

just down to personal taste imo, and in the end, the chavvy bastards will try imitate and eventually ruin it

There are ways of making even the most "fashionable" cars stand out. Mine is lowered 40-50mm with smoked lights ;)

wobble_vtr
19th February 2009, 13:35
There are ways of making even the most "fashionable" cars stand out. Mine is lowered 40-50mm with smoked lights ;)

yeah i know, every car is different and will stand out in some way. im not having a dig at the mods, hell mines is getting dropped 40/50 and i have smoked headlights aswell. i mean people that like bodykits and that will be looking and saying it looks shite, its all about preference.

Kerryc
19th February 2009, 14:07
I agree to a certain extent but just look at this from Trax last year:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/saxo180/trax2008081.jpg

4 saxos, all similar style but all totally different. One thing to bear in mind when referring to styles is that "Euro" for example can be so diverse, as can "track", "Show" and so on and so on.

I see modifying cars and car styles as being a bit like fashion. There are good, bad and the downright ugly, but each genre has an audience.

I like one thing, the guy with the kitted up saxo on 19s with a huge spoiler likes something else. What's to say I am right and he is wrong? IMO there is no right or wrong when it comes to modifying, only what you want to achieve


im with ya on this one matey

goldenfurio
19th February 2009, 15:29
http://www.saxperience.com/photos/photo1352.jpg
I realy like this car tbh :y:

djflipsaxo
19th February 2009, 15:31
to a certain extent the 'fasion' is vts wheels, angles, smoked lights, lowered, bonnet raisers, etc etc
i think its nice to go to a show and see a line of cars that look completely different! not the same styling???

muddy_trousers
19th February 2009, 16:17
I think the term "show car" actually means "I'm going to show everyone I wasted a pile of money on this shit car". I think I'll build a mk1 5 door micra with a vielside kit and pearlescent paint and drive it into Max Power live in a ball of flames.

Mikey
19th February 2009, 16:54
body kits look good if there not fit gash.

most show cars you see in mags look good, then in the flesh the bumpers look like a 5 year old fit them. and the smoothing jobs look like you could surf them. and most paint jobs look like halfrauds finest spray.

if the workmanship is good. body kits look good.

craig180
20th February 2009, 08:28
Show Car to me means well looked after, regardless of the style

Ashleyp
20th February 2009, 08:37
Alot of the 'new' car enthusiasts have been brought up in a different 'community' compared to the 'older' car enthusiasts.

With all different styles you get good and bad. I'm sure there are 'shit looking' euro cars out there. There are good 'kitted' cars out there but alot of people don't appreciate the work gone into them. Back when they were in fashion lots of people loved them.

Now euro and track are 'in fashion' everyone thinks they look good.

In five years time there 'probably' will be new car enthusiasts laughing at your tastes and saying euro looks shit.

I completely agree with wellsy. I appreciate most cars modified properly and professionally weather they're track euro or kitted.

you and wellsy seem to be the only two people talking sence (mikey and craig are too)

everyone is just saying "show cars look like chav wagons" blah blah

as paul said, the scenes changed, you should still appreciate the work gone into well modified "kitted" cars, regardless of your opinions on how it looks. 5 years ago you would have all loved it

and its true that not all track / euro cars look good

djflipsaxo
20th February 2009, 09:03
ashley, i think you will find i ahve been saying the same.

NICK2506
20th February 2009, 09:14
Show Car to me means well looked after, regardless of the style

yeah see thats what i think it should mean. but people may call your car not a show car cause it doesnt have body kits etc, although yours is very nice and well looked after so should therefore be a show car, but most people wouldnt see it as one.

the thing that annoys me the most and the reason i started this debate is when people have kitted saxos on here and they say 'i dont like it, i hate kitted cars, its an ok show car though'. that just makes show cars just like cars people hate, when surely they should be what people like.

aaah i dunno, its a good discussion tbh.

you and wellsy seem to be the only two people talking sence (mikey and craig are too)

everyone is just saying "show cars look like chav wagons" blah blah

as paul said, the scenes changed, you should still appreciate the work gone into well modified "kitted" cars, regardless of your opinions on how it looks. 5 years ago you would have all loved it

and its true that not all track / euro cars look good

and about when people were bought up, im 17, so about 4-5 years ago i always bought car mags and loved the body kits and lexus lights. and since about 12 ive wanted a saxo with bodykit, lexus lights, neons etc. but by the time i was 15 i decided it looked naff and chavvy so i havnt gone for that style. obviously if i was about 4 years older, and had a car when i loved bodykits and lexus lights etc i would still have a kitted car.

like in 5 years, people like me and the other people in this current modding stage will be telling the next lot of modifiers that lowered cars on standard rims etc looks the best.