type R

[shaddow]

I may have more BHP than i think as i had a race with a type r last night and beat him by 2 cars length!!
when we pulled over i made him pop his bonnet to see if it was a type s but much to my shock it was not.
anyone else share my confusion? he thought i had NOS lol

[saxx]

woo another 'racer'

[Yates]

you beat a 200bhp civic ok then

[shaddow]

mad isnt it! and i cant imagine his car being broken on a 04 plate, most strange ??

[saxx]

isnt that dependent on if his car has been run in or not?? i thought 5k had to b done on the engine before u can rag it - gentle revs and acceleration only

[Yates]

you can rag any car at any time - your not supposed to but you stil cant, and i stil believe a brand new civic type r with 0 miles on the clock would beat a vts

my mates got a civic vti-s which is 160 break, that beats any vts that goes near it

[saxx]

well if u do ya a prick

you'll bugger the engine

and perhaps this guy doesnt like to thrash his car? and just thought it funny a saxo was tryin

[SteVTR]

*sniff sniff* yeah i smell bullshit a vts with a few breathing mods isnt going to beat a CTR mate

[saxx]

or perhaps it was a 'r' look alike

[SteVTR]

5k i though you only had to run a car in for 1-1.5k n not take it past 3000 rpm while your running then in

[shaddow]

not sue how many miles it had on it but he deff was givvin it some. what made it odd was he couldnt believe it as much as i couldnt.

[saxx]

5k i though you only had to run a car in for 1-1.5k n not take it past 3000 rpm while your running then in

my friends ex works in audi and they're customers are told 5k, my mums was 5k too

[shaddow]

i thought it was a look a like so thats why i made him pop his bonnet and it was deff a type r!
Im not bothered if anyone thinks im talkin rubbish cos i know its true as strange as it may seem.
bet he has it booked into honda on monday to get it checked out ha ha

[Certi]

This is the 2nd thread you have started about racing type Rs. I thought you would have learned from what happened in the first topic you started bout racing.

[SteVTR]

5k i though you only had to run a car in for 1-1.5k n not take it past 3000 rpm while your running then in

my friends ex works in audi and they're customers are told 5k, my mums was 5k too

different for different makes of car then

to be honnest i dont believe you much mate round corners etc i can keep close to a type R but on a long straight it gets atleast a car n a halfs length ahead of me then at about 130ish i can get back along side it but no piss all over it

[shaddow]

yeah thats great, cheers for you input

[SteVTR]

yeah thats great, cheers for you input

you talking to me or certifiable?

[saxx]

i would of thought all engines were round the same

plus if i had an 04 plated type r i wouldnt waste my time 'racin'

[shaddow]

my last post was not aimed at "stevtr"
all i can say is that i did, not sure how and not sure why but thats what happened. like i said im as confused as you lot and i was just wondering if anyone else has been in the same boat

[SteVTR]

i would of thought all engines were round the same

plus if i had an 04 plated type r i wouldnt waste my time 'racin'

you'd think that when my mam got her c2 vtr she was told 1k n a lad i kno was told the same for his c2 vts

if i had any CTR i wouldnt bother with someone in a saxo giving it large

[saxx]

lol i dont bother with them when im ploddin round in the gti

[Certi]

Well it seems rather odd that a couple of weeks ago you start a thread about how you hit 140MPH!!! OMFG L33T!!! and everyone tells you that your a fanny for goin that fast. The topic gets locked and then you open another thread appologising for starting that thread and that you realised you shouldn't b doing that sort of speed. Then you open a 2nd thread about the exact same thing.

[Simo]

Running in.. P'ah!

Take it easy for first few hundred miles to settle the pistons/cylinders, then open it up more and more...

Engines are well run in before they get to the customer these days.

[SteVTR]

lol i dont bother with them when im ploddin round in the gti



lol i dont even bother in my vts nevermind something with decent power

[saxx]

simo....perhaps u should talk to the manufcturers bout that


certifiable - ure like an elephant........u never forget




ste...lol mine never leaves the drive to even think about botherin

[shaddow]

correct me if im wrong, have i said anything about speed?
have i said where i raced him?
so calm it down.

[Sean]

Running in.. P'ah!

Take it easy for first few hundred miles to settle the pistons/cylinders, then open it up more and more...

Engines are well run in before they get to the customer these days.

EXACTLY. it wasn't that long ago that you were told not to take a brand new car over 50mph for the first 1000miles in order to 'run it in'. In fact, most 'performance' cars actually respond better to being 'opened up' after the first few hundred miles.

[Simo]

simo....perhaps u should talk to the manufcturers bout that


certifiable - ure like an elephant........u never forget

I dont need to talk to the manufacturers, I dont have a new car anymore. Had several in my time though and have treated them all the same.

Ask any enthusiastic garage, they will tell you that running cars in too softly is bad for them.

[shaddow]

Simo wrote:
Running in.. P'ah!

Take it easy for first few hundred miles to settle the pistons/cylinders, then open it up more and more...

Engines are well run in before they get to the customer these days.



I never new that but its good to bare in mind.

[saxx]

well if i have a brand new car i'll do as told by garage - cos if it blows up they wont fix it

[Simo]

Simo wrote:
Running in.. P'ah!

Take it easy for first few hundred miles to settle the pistons/cylinders, then open it up more and more...

Engines are well run in before they get to the customer these days.



I never new that but its good to bare in mind.

Check out the http://www.sax-p.com/forum/forum_images/quote_icon.gif button... it's funky smileys/smiley17.gif

[shaddow]

cheers dude

[Simo]

well if i have a brand new car i'll do as told by garage - cos if it blows up they wont fix it

That's fair enough, Im just sharing my opinion, based upon what a garage once told me. smileys/smiley2.gif

[SteVTR]

we got our rover with stupidly low miles it had been ran in like the dealer said it was slow n unresponsive (even for a rover) a few days of opening it up n it runs sweet as a nut now

as for the c2 i think my mam got bored of running it in after 2 days its never had any problems

[saxx]

just what my mum was told by VAG took her over a year to run it in

[SteVTR]

just what my mum was told by VAG took her over a year to run it in



christ over a year to do 5k? smileys/smiley3.gif that honestly cant of done the engine much good

[saxx]

its 3 in january and hasnt even got 10k on the clock

the car runs lovely - the only prob is the vw alarm on it

[SteVTR]

its 3 in january and hasnt even got 10k on the clock

the car runs lovely - the only prob is the vw alarm on it

our rover was like that believe me it ran better once it had been shown the buisness end of the speedo n had been used more than once a week

[saxx]

my mums not into racing smileys/smiley17.gif and im not allowed to touch it - the insurers wont let anyone under 35 drive it anymore smileys/smiley13.gif damn them

[Simo]

my mums not into racing smileys/smiley17.gif and im not allowed to touch it - the insurers wont let anyone under 35 drive it anymore smileys/smiley13.gif damn them



<35? What type of VW is it if you dont mind me asking?

[SteVTR]

my mums not into racing smileys/smiley17.gif and im not allowed to touch it - the insurers wont let anyone under 35 drive it anymore smileys/smiley13.gif damn them



i dont race smileys/smiley17.gif half of the time i give my car grief i'm the only one in the car n the road is dead i like my licnece too much to go racing through towns etc also i like taking it easy when theres loads of people around because the car gets lots of looks smileys/smiley16.gif

no one under 35?what car is it saxx?

[saxx]

i dunno who it is - knowin them saga

[Simo]

i dunno who it is - knowin them saga

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean? smileys/smiley9.gif

[Yates]

saxx you complained cos i called youa cow yet u call me a prick

lets be fair what you know about cars can be wrote on the back of a match box

ive never heard of a car takin 5k to be run in, as someone says most cars are already ran in before you get them due to the testing they will get before you buy them

[Daniel_VTR]

well this threads funny!!

err no chnace did you beat a 04 plate type r in a vts.. my mates got one and it piss's on all vts and vtr and other cars.. jus dint happen.. or his a shit driver smileys/smiley17.gif

[rsands]

is a stupid thread lol! smileys/smiley4.gif

doubt 5000 miles...most cars are tested before leaving factory, etc..

[Dino209]

**NEWS FLASH**

My 1.4i jus beat civic type R
Then i woke up smileys/smiley19.gif


smileys/smiley17.gif

[saxx]

saxx you complained cos i called youa cow yet u call me a prick

lets be fair what you know about cars can be wrote on the back of a match box

ive never heard of a car takin 5k to be run in, as someone says most cars are already ran in before you get them due to the testing they will get before you buy them



now when did i say 'yatey your a prick' dont believe i did!!

and well i suggest u take it up with VAG!! because theyre the ones who believe it takes 5000 miles!!

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT U THINK I DO AND DONT KNOW BUT I KNOW MY MUM FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN BY THE GARAGE SHE BOUGHT HER BRAND NEW CAR FROM!!

so perhaps when u come on here with ya brand new golf i'll pay attention to ya sarcastic underhanded comments!!

[saxx]

and ste its an imported vw golf gti, and simo sorry i meant i dunno who insures them!

[tgazvtr]

calm down things are getting a bit out of hand now,

ive been told by many car dealers that nowadays you dont have to run an engine in as the bit are all sound as soon as you start the car. espesially on hondas as with over 1million vtec engines built and not one going wrong im sure that not all people have run in there engines.

thats just what i have been told.

[Yates]

[/QUOTE]
so perhaps when u come on here with ya brand new golf i'll pay attention to ya sarcastic underhanded comments!! [/QUOTE]

how old are you?!

my daddy is gona beat up your daddy

end of conversation.

[saxx]

no its not but as i said previously my mum was told 5000 miles before she did anythin violent to the engine!!

and i know audi tell their customers the same

but as u drive a saxo how would u know about it?

so i suggest u stop slaggin me off yatey its gettin boring!

[Dino209]

wow yatesy have you got a golf? my bro got one of them
nice car fella smileys/smiley2.gif

[tgazvtr]

i agree to some extent i no that most of the german manufactures tell there customers to take it easy for some miles just to cover there backs.

[w_jd_w]

i really dont see the point in these sort of threads. no one is going to believe you beat a type r and even if you did whats the point telling everyone?

was you racing on the road?thats also nothing to brag about

i know this is a general chat where "anything goes within reason" but i still dont see what the point to it is

[WestyVTR]

my thoughts are this!

Racin is not good, it causes death! just ask my sis who has held sum1s head together with her hands, while there brains were hanging out... while the other A&E docs performd CPR!!1st point!

VTS Vs CivicTypeR - Provided both were running well Civic Type R everytime! End of!! - the only way a VTS may appear to win in that battle would be if the Rs Vtec system isnt working properly! or its just runnung sh*te... 2nd point

Starting threds on this arnt a good idea it just promotes the "boy racer" stigma that every1 associates wiv saxos anyway... So IMO the community here doesnt need that...! Fareplay if you want to ask the question "how can a VTS beat a Type R".... that may answer your question, but in a more mature sensible unboyracery way.....

hope you can c wot im drivin towards!

( & TypeRs do struggle wiv my sax to 60mph LOL )

smileys/smiley2.gif smileys/smiley9.gif

[grantsmith1985]

When my mum got her golf she was told by VW to take it easy for 500 miles. After that its all gravy.

[saxx]

my mums is an import so hasnt come from a dealer in this country.

i think its high because she had to fight for a warranty cos vw didnt wanna touch it

[grantsmith1985]

A little off topic I know but am I the only person that would choose the FRS over the CTR. Every one laughs at me when I say that. the FRS is SO much nicer.

[saxx]

frs? do u mean focus rs?

[grantsmith1985]

Yep smileys/smiley17.gif

[saxx]

ive not driven one to know

why do u prefer that one?

[grantsmith1985]

THe Focus looks special, THe civic type R is Common as mucm and looks pretty much like a bottom of the range civic. THe Focus is a Turbo, civic is not (well not really any way). The interior is nicer on focus. just a nicer car, IMO.

[Certi]

I'd have an RS over a Type R anyday

[grantsmith1985]

Woohoo, lol at least some one agress smileys/smiley17.gif

[Dan]

Yeah me too, theres a few lovely ones round here. smileys/smiley2.gif

[grantsmith1985]

I got a insurance quote on a FRS for £2k a year fully comp, lol. I just need the other £12k to buy one. smileys/smiley9.gif

[Yates]

is the focus a turbo? i heard it wasnt thats all, i used to like them, but give me that vtec any day

[grantsmith1985]

Yer the focus RS is a Turbo. I think on paper the focus is something stupoid like half a second faster than the civic. lo. I just like the focus more.

[WestyVTR]

THe Focus looks special, THe civic type R is Common as mucm and looks pretty much like a bottom of the range civic. THe Focus is a Turbo, civic is not (well not really any way). The interior is nicer on focus. just a nicer car, IMO.


Technically youd acually be better off wiv an ST170 squire! The FRS was based on the older focus chassie (sp). The ST has the advantage of a newer revised shassie, also has improved Standard equip, pistons are better (forge i think), block is stronger, shassie (sp) is better, suspension is spot on, FFOC acually advise not to toutch the suspension its set up that well! Is the RS really an RS!? im not convinced.... Escort RS cosworth..... Sierra RS Cosworth..... the key word is "COSWORTH" they made the RS badge the1 to have.... ford cant do it alone!! just look at wot they did wiv the focus.... the orange one off special! OMG!!!


think of bolting a super charger or turbo to the ST..... that worth the RS badge!

smileys/smiley14.gif

[grantsmith1985]

Yer I know ( I am also a member of FFOC, lol. Yer I agree about the RS being old etc, But I would rather have the RS over a ST tbh. The RS engine is a lot different to the ST.

[WestyVTR]

Yer I know ( I am also a member of FFOC, lol. Yer I agree about the RS being old etc, But I would rather have the RS over a ST tbh. The RS engine is a lot different to the ST.

its older technology tho! i think the supercharger put the st up to 240 bhp wiv no more mods required all internals can handle that power.....! OMG...

id rather a typeR than an RS tho smileys/smiley9.gif

[grantsmith1985]

There are SO many Type R's though, were as the RS is a rare car.

[saxx]

we've 3 rs's down here all in purple

do they come in any other colour?

i'd go for the civic over the focus prefer its looks, and i just dont like fords!

[grantsmith1985]

They wont be purple, its ford racing blue and they only came in that colour. Only other colour one I have seen is one with a custom paint job.

[saxos]

I may have more BHP than i think as i had a race with a type r last night and beat him by 2 cars length!!
when we pulled over i made him pop his bonnet to see if it was a type s but much to my shock it was not.
anyone else share my confusion? he thought i had NOS lol I dont think you beat a type r realy i think its a load o crap but if you say so!

[WestyVTR]

I may have more BHP than i think as i had a race with a type r last night and beat him by 2 cars length!!
when we pulled over i made him pop his bonnet to see if it was a type s but much to my shock it was not.
anyone else share my confusion? he thought i had NOS lol I dont think you beat a type r realy i think its a load o crap but if you say so!

read the posts squire.... its a common thought umugst us! but it is possible..... smileys/smiley8.gif

[saxx]

They wont be purple, its ford racing blue and they only came in that colour. Only other colour one I have seen is one with a custom paint job.

well they look purpley to me smileys/smiley17.gif

[Yates]

rather have one of them civic vtr (think thats what they are) imports 190bhp standard 1.6 aswell

[Scott]

eh? the vti was the 1.6 and it came with 160bhp standard

[Yates]

import being the word there scott, a lad at work has one

my mates got a vti-s and thats 160bhp

[puzzledzippy]

what about a golf r32,better than both of them and its got 4 wheel drive.

[WestyVTR]

CupraR....
Focus RS - ST....
Civic Type R....
Alfa GTA....


i can see where this thred is going......

[Scott]

first i have ever heard of honda producing a 1.6 with 190bhp, take it has throttle bodies as standard because there is no way its making 190bhp without them, and if it is indeed true then hats off to honda for making it a production line.

Though google or anywhere doesnt bring it up. Im guessing hes talking shit but just imo smileys/happy.gif

[Yates]

no im being serious, its been imported from japan my mates got a vti-s and he was telling me about them then a lad at work got one, ive looked on google and cant see it but ive seen it and i aint shittin

[Scott]

the nearest thing i can find is the old civic type-r's they were all import, but struggling to to find a proper power figure, more interested to find out nowsmileys/smiley4.gif

[Yates]

im tryin to find out, il try get some pictures at work if i can

its the same shape as the vti-s but it has different front bumper on it, it has red bucket seats which are standard and apparently go for a fortune on ebay as they are very rare

[Scott]

they are rare as rocking horse shit, i had heard of the type r before but never the power figure of it. Damn it i want to expand my brain on how they get this 190bhp if thats the case and all google turns up is bloody teg-r's!

[Yates]

actually i think its a type r not vtr old shape tho import

[saxx]

what about a golf r32,better than both of them and its got 4 wheel drive.

i like u smileys/smiley2.gif smileys/smiley17.gif

my fave car! yummy!!

but if anyone has a fair few bob there is a golf rs for sale on ebay - reserve of 11200!

[Yates]

mite buy one just to piss you off

[Krissy_Bufton]

maybe u guys are on about the old civic type-r's? not the new 1s that are abotu now (i think theyre EK9's) which had 190bhp... but they werent 1.6litre!

apparently older VWs arent properly run in til 100k miles! LOL thats wot my VW enthusiast mate told me anyways...(i think its codswallop tbh!)

The VW Golf R32 arent that quick! ive seen them on the track, and they were being beaten by 106 Rallye's! and 205's! (fair enuff these werent standard 106's and 205's... but still!!!)

i'd rather have a 205 T16 over a Focus RS, or Type-R tbh smileys/smiley17.gif just dont have the £25 to buy 1 smileys/smiley17.gif

[saxx]

buy what the rs or the r32? cos i think the rs is a one off custom build!

umm i personally cant see a rallye beatin an r32 thats like the kiddie sayin his vts beat a type r - but each to their own - id still have one over all cars mentioned! (apart from golf rs)

[Krissy_Bufton]

was gonna ask wot ur on about? NEVER heard of a Golf RS before in my LIFE!

[Scott]

its easy done and has been done a number of times but they are not standard, though round a track the big heavy golf will be out handled but its pace on the straights would make it a hard one to beat in a standard saxo/106

[Krissy_Bufton]

buy what the rs or the r32? cos i think the rs is a one off custom build!

umm i personally cant see a rallye beatin an r32 thats like the kiddie sayin his vts beat a type r - but each to their own - id still have one over all cars mentioned! (apart from golf rs)

i can see it... well i saw it with my own eyes! lol

the R32's are crap round tracks! theyre heavy, and not that quick! maybe good when theyre at 100mph+ but theyre nothing fancy around a track

[saxx]

oh u mean this one?

click me (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Golf-1-8-RS-210BHP-Full-Oettinger-Caractere-not-GTI-VR6_W0QQitemZ4584705157QQcategoryZ9873QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem)

[Krissy_Bufton]

so its basically a tuned Golf GTi 1.8T? its hardly a brand name, model is it.

[saxostu]

they are rare as rocking horse shit, i had heard of the type r before but never the power figure of it. Damn it i want to expand my brain on how they get this 190bhp if thats the case and all google turns up is bloody teg-r's!

The EK9 civic Type-R had 185ps which works out about 177bhp not bad for a 1.6 i guess

[Scott]

there we are i kept turning up the 185ps randomly, fucking awesome effort out of a 1.6!

[Krissy_Bufton]

i thought 185ps worked out at 182bhp! well according to Ford..coz the Fiesta ST which is 150ps, worked out at 147bhp

[Krissy_Bufton]

yeh honda know how to squeeeeze power out of lil 1600cc motors! give them a 3litre... and u got a beast like the NSX smileys/happy.gif

[Scott]

the focus st is 170ps, hence st170 smileys/smiley2.gifsmileys/smiley17.gif

[saxostu]

there we are i kept turning up the 185ps randomly, fucking awesome effort out of a 1.6!

Sort of makes the VTS a bit lame when you compare the too smileys/smiley13.gif

[saxx]

so its basically a tuned Golf GTi 1.8T? its hardly a brand name, model is it.

brand name model?

[Krissy_Bufton]

soz i meant the Fiesta ST! lol whoopsie! darn ppl taking about Focus' put words in me mouth

[Krissy_Bufton]

so its basically a tuned Golf GTi 1.8T? its hardly a brand name, model is it.

brand name model?

yeh, as in its not like its a model named as "Golf RS" BY Volkswagen! that person has just called it a Golf RS

[Yates]

r32 is a 3.2 not a tuned gti

this thread has just got confusing

im on about an old civic type r, i know its an import and the fella was telling me his was 190bhp, could be a rough figure

anyone found any yet?!

[Scott]

checj second last post previous page dude

[saxx]

so its basically a tuned Golf GTi 1.8T? its hardly a brand name, model is it.

brand name model?

yeh, as in its not like its a model named as "Golf RS" BY Volkswagen! that person has just called it a Golf RS

it was custom built by a vw dealer from what i can read!

it was sold as an rs

i wouldnt care if it was named by vw or not tbh its still one mighty fine beast!

[Krissy_Bufton]

i wasnt on about the Golf R32 mate lol

i know the R32 is a V6 3.2

the ek9 civic type-r's are LUSH Tho!

[Krissy_Bufton]

so its basically a tuned Golf GTi 1.8T? its hardly a brand name, model is it.

brand name model?

yeh, as in its not like its a model named as "Golf RS" BY Volkswagen! that person has just called it a Golf RS

it was custom built by a vw dealer from what i can read!

it was sold as an rs

i wouldnt care if it was named by vw or not tbh its still one mighty fine beast!

true! but that would be like me buying say a 206 GTi from say a peugeot dealer, and then sending it straight to Ecosse, where they tune it up with cams, throttle bodies, etc and put a bodykit on it, then calling it a 206 RS... it dont work

[saxx]

umm not really

as the vw dealer had this built - so he hasnt bought it and taken it to say tsr - the dealers had it done for him!

so imo not the same

but either way its gunna play very nicely with some top notch cars on the road!

[Yates]

that golf has got the rs badge off the audis on it quite smart not liking the tints tho

[saxx]

the wheels are nice too!

[Yates]

yeah


black windows on a black golf just dont go

[WestyVTR]

Isnt a integra 1.8 about 190bhp!!?

thats good figures! Honda are the daddys of naturally asprated power!!!

[saxx]

yeah


black windows on a black golf just dont go

i agree its too much

[Yates]

well its imported from japan, and they will be really crazy over there, you couldnt get the type r old shapes over here, only by import

[Krissy_Bufton]

im scared of Honda's now, after being in one, when it collided head first with a tree, and resulted in my skull coming out my forehead!

[Yates]

got any pics mate?! smileys/smiley17.gif

[Krissy_Bufton]

thought u wouldve seen pics already?

thats the wound lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/kbufton/crash.jpg
few pics of car!!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/benji-son/11102005.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/benji-son/11102005001.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/benji-son/11102005006.jpg
i was in passenger seat!!!

[Yates]

thats a nice scar

was that car a write off then?!

[Krissy_Bufton]

LOL wot do u think?

look feasbly repairable? smileys/smiley17.gif

the engine, bulkhead, alloy wheel, heating system was all in the passenger footwell! not ONE single panel on the car came out untouched, they all crinkled!

[Yates]

looks repairable to me, new windscreen touch of t cut and alot of elbow grease and bobs ur uncle

did the bump cause you to lose your mind and get a 206 instead of a saxo?

[Krissy_Bufton]

no had the 206 for years lol

lol t-cut!

[Yates]

ah right, so do you realise your on a saxo website and not a 206?!

[Krissy_Bufton]

yes! lol been here for years!

[WestyVTR]

mayb secretly he wants a saxo! i would make sense..... smileys/smiley2.gif

[Krissy_Bufton]

lol no chance smileys/smiley17.gif

[WestyVTR]

u know u want to! thats y ur hear..... admit it! come out of the closet.......... smileys/smiley5.gif smileys/smiley14.gif smileys/smiley2.gif