View Full Version : -40mm OR -50mm........CAN’T DECIDE!
adamsax
13th November 2005, 06:53
Can you guys post up some examples of your own car, or other saxo's that are lowered either of the above amounts.
I know handling is fully optimised at -40mm, but then there's the 'look' factor of -50mm, although handling isn't destroyed with that AND -40mm doesn't look bad either.........ARRRRRRRGH!
Pics and opinions guys!
Cheers smileys/smiley16.gif
Simo
13th November 2005, 07:03
what size rims? 15"?
Im currently lowered 40mm, but I'd probably go down 50mm if on 15" alloys.
adamsax
13th November 2005, 07:18
Yeah, it'll be 15" VTS alloys
Clouds_mate
13th November 2005, 12:04
Go to the dark side
http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/6656/image0370oc.jpg
http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/8063/image0437lk.jpg
Yates
13th November 2005, 14:31
50mm
my handling is awesome, never had back end out even when i have really thrown it around a corner, im on 15 vts rims aswell
Craig
13th November 2005, 14:33
i will post some pics later addam im down 40mm on vts rims now
JamieB
13th November 2005, 16:52
slammed saxos on vtr alloys look really nice. i would say go
down 50mm. is what i am going to do (eventually) on mine, just
gotta get the money together to do it now
w_jd_w
13th November 2005, 17:00
id say go down 50mm mate.looks alot better i think.how much is your saxo lowered leckie?
Clouds_mate
13th November 2005, 17:57
60 and around 80-90 buddy
w_jd_w
13th November 2005, 18:03
what kit have you got?
Dan
13th November 2005, 18:06
I agree with simo, go 50mm, the best of both worlds. smileys/smiley2.gif
VTR_BOY
13th November 2005, 18:37
dont go lower than 50mm,its a pain gettin over speedbumps,ive already ruined one sump and the front of my bumper smileys/smiley7.gif
GreenSaxo
13th November 2005, 19:17
45mm smileys/smiley17.gif
peebee
13th November 2005, 19:22
havent a few people dropped their saxo's 50 on the front and something like 70 on the back?
any help? smileys/smiley5.gif
Sidesport
13th November 2005, 19:45
180mm front 200mm back.
adamsax
13th November 2005, 19:45
havent a few people dropped their saxo's 50 on the front and something like 70 on the back?
any help? smileys/smiley5.gif
Mmmmmmm, I don't really like it when it looks lower at the back. I like it to be an even drop all round or slightly higher at the back (then it keeps the handling and balance as even as possible)
Think I'm swaying toward -50mm now, especially after what you guys have said......
Pics would be nice though smileys/smiley16.gif
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adamsax
13th November 2005, 19:46
havent a few people dropped their saxo's 50 on the front and something like 70 on the back?
any help? smileys/smiley5.gif
Mmmmmmm, I don't really like it when it looks lower at the back. I like it to be an even drop all round or slightly higher at the back (then it keeps the handling and balance as even as possible)
Think I'm swaying toward -50mm now, especially after what you guys have said......
Pics would be nice though smileys/smiley16.gif
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adamsax
13th November 2005, 19:50
180mm front 200mm back.
Thanks for your seasoned words of wisdom buddy, but I think the forum where people MAY care what you say is..........thataway ----------->
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peebee
13th November 2005, 19:56
well if u look at ur saxo it looks like its slightly leaning forward, the extra bit at the back drops it level!
Can anyone verify this for me?
Yates
13th November 2005, 20:04
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/yate5y/360x480_P1010008.jpg
me down 50
Natalie
13th November 2005, 20:15
havent a few people dropped their saxo's 50 on the front and something like 70 on the back?
any help? smileys/smiley5.gif
You don't want to go lower at the back than at the front. Saxo's are higher at the back than the front standard and there's a reason why.
I've got mine 60mm at the front and around 45ish at the back and the handling is spot on. I've only grounded it a few times and that's only because my decat pipe hangs too low smileys/smiley26.gif
peebee
13th November 2005, 20:21
Sweet, ill keep my trap shut then smileys/banghead.gif smileys/banghead.gif
Thanks...
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Yates
13th November 2005, 20:22
u got any pics of urs vtr girl?
im 50 all around and ive never scrapped on anything, ive never had one problem with it being lowered and imo i dont think that there is any way i could improve my handling, ive even tried to get my cars back end out and have never done it
Natalie
13th November 2005, 20:39
u got any pics of urs vtr girl?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Natalie_mc/loweredsaxo004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Natalie_mc/low%20saxo/loweredsaxo022.jpg
They were taken when it was first done so its actually dropped a bit more since then
I never had any problems with grounding until I put the decat pipe on. It doesn't fit very well and I'm replacing it as soon as I have the funds. It grips to the road even with my cheap, almost illegal tyres. Damn being a student with no money smileys/smiley13.gif
VTR_BOY
13th November 2005, 20:52
im 60 at the front and 50 at the bk
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adamsax
13th November 2005, 23:02
Would you say this Photoshop is a good representation of what a -50mm drop would look like? Cheers........
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1133/yesyesyes1ud.jpg
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Yates
14th November 2005, 02:24
looks right at the back, but from the positioning of the car it looks like the front is about 60
looks smart tho
reevesy_vtr
14th November 2005, 03:06
i got 16s and i got it droped about 40mm and the ride is sweet my girl said "it dont feel any different" and then i through it round a roundabout and then she changed her mind smileys/smiley2.gif
VTRgary
14th November 2005, 03:48
ive got 16's on 40mm drop it's okay
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/VTRgary/DSC00218redo.jpg
but it's too high so im going to lower it again to 60mm
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/VTRgary/622d9a6fcopy5rredo.jpg
VTRgary
14th November 2005, 03:48
sorry the top big is a bit too big smileys/smiley4.gif
adamsax
14th November 2005, 06:50
Cheers everyone, -50mm it is. I know GMAX does a -50mm kit and yate5y has that and gives it the smileys/smiley20.gif
Is there any other -50mm kits out there, and would anyone recommend one?
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Gav
14th November 2005, 11:35
im down 40mm all round on spax springs with 16" alloys and 40 profile tyres. handling seems the same but i put a lower strut brace on and now it sticks like glue to the road. need to take some new pics but here is 1 just after it was lowered.
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grantsmith1985
14th November 2005, 14:55
180mm front 200mm back.
Thanks for your seasoned words of wisdom buddy, but I think the forum where people MAY care what you say is..........thataway ----------->
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Whats up with that bitchy comment, lol.
silveryvtr
14th November 2005, 14:58
adam is your car pink or red?
adamsax
14th November 2005, 15:38
adam is your car pink or red?
Venetian Red. Looks pink in that pic I know, and it has been pointed out before in other threads. Shit light that day + shit camera means its come out a bit pinky.
Honest, look; better light and better camera........
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5754/notpink1yi.jpg
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SlowOB
14th November 2005, 15:43
My car down 50mm on Apex springs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/SlowOB/Saxo/mirrors4.jpg
adamsax
14th November 2005, 15:45
SlowOB, your car sits PERFECTLY imo, quality smileys/smiley16.gif
SlowOB
14th November 2005, 15:49
SlowOB, your car sits PERFECTLY imo, quality smileys/smiley16.gif
It looks just how i wanted it too! Cheers bud!
silveryvtr
14th November 2005, 17:31
are APEX springs the ones you can ajust?
SlowOB
14th November 2005, 17:42
are APEX springs the ones you can ajust?
I've just got normal lowering springs. Apex are the manufacturers.
silveryvtr
14th November 2005, 17:56
alrite sound
rushy_23
14th November 2005, 17:58
Hi all, was reading through all the comments as i also want to lower my VTS when i get it soon.
I want to lower it 50mm, but the problem is i cant find a fully suspension kit that lowers it by that much.
The Bilstien Sprintline lowers 40/45mm (im considering this one)
I had GMAX on my VTR and wasnt impressed at all.
So basically, anyone know of a full kit that lowers by 50mm, if not then its gotta be bilstein all the way...
SlowOB
14th November 2005, 18:03
Get the bilstein its gotta be the best by far!
Yates
14th November 2005, 22:07
rushy did you just have springs or full kit?
jsut i have g-max and have had no problems and got no complaints about them at all
adamsax
14th November 2005, 23:59
They better be good yate5y! That's the kit I'm going for mate smileys/smiley16.gif
adamsax
15th November 2005, 00:06
Right, I've just been looking into the -50mm GMAX Sports lowering kit, and it says I may need a modified TRACK ROD.
Here's the page......CLICK (http://www.dcp-shop.co.uk/buy-car-accessories/product_info.php?products_id=3730&osCsid=958ca35b5b8de20cfd08c4c577bb9525)
Whats all that about?
YATE5Y - Did you have to buy this mate?
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Yates
15th November 2005, 00:08
ASW!!!! but heres some more pics of it lowered smileys/smiley4.gif
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/yate5y/P10140036.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/yate5y/Slammed.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/yate5y/LowSlung.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/yate5y/OverRoad.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/yate5y/P1010001569.jpg
Yates
15th November 2005, 00:13
nope i didnt have to buy that mate, maybe its down the the power steering feed pipe needing to be relocated?
thats just on mk2's tho mate
Scott
15th November 2005, 00:15
modified track end my arse just bend the pipe out the road cost = 0
adamsax
15th November 2005, 01:39
Cheers yate5y for your help and pics smileys/smiley2.gif
-50mm is my cars xmas pressie this year......LOL smileys/smiley17.gif
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Yates
15th November 2005, 01:49
mines already had most of them early, dependin on how much over time i can do this month and next i wana go for bmc and tints
mike_sax
15th November 2005, 02:42
hi, mines on 16" and has been lowered 60mm at the front and 80mm at the back. although it handles gr8, my tyres hav taken a beatin.
mattvts23
15th November 2005, 04:13
Shouldnt have a problem with PAS pipe on MK1 saxos, only occurs on mk2's. You could get a Bilstien set up and use 50mm gmc springs. Mine was lowered 50mm then I raised it to 40mm, because I thought the ride was harsh. Now that could be because the Bilstien struts are a lot tuffer.
I would stick with 40mm myself.
rushy_23
15th November 2005, 17:32
I had the GMAX full suspension kit (shocks and springs).
Lowered the VTR by 35mm. Maybe it was a bad batch...
Thats an idea, Bilstien shocks with different springs.
Is it bad to mix them up like that guys? And are there any certain springs you recommend with the bilstien streetline shocks?
Id probably go for 45mm/50mm lowering springs as long as they are decent.
mattvts23
15th November 2005, 17:35
GMC always sell teh kit with gmc springs as far as I know
rushy_23
15th November 2005, 21:51
Any idea wot drop the GMC spring lower by (this is with the bilstien kit right?)
rushy_23
15th November 2005, 21:53
Hey yate5y, how much is ur saxo lowered by, looks very nice btw.
Yates
15th November 2005, 21:55
50 mate
adamsax
15th November 2005, 21:55
Hey yate5y, how much is ur saxo lowered by, looks very nice btw.
It's lowered 50mm all round smileys/smiley16.gif
rushy_23
16th November 2005, 00:55
Looks veeeery nice smileys/smiley17.gif
I will probably end up getting the bilstein shocks and find some 45mm lowering springs.
Damn why are saxo's soooo sexy!!
Craig
16th November 2005, 00:59
here u go adam my car lowered 40mm on vts
parked on a high spot though
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/craig17furio/PB150002.jpg
rushy_23
16th November 2005, 03:21
From certain pics, u cant really see the difference between 40 and 50.
When i lowered mine by 35mm, i noticed that it got even more lower over time.
Is this normal?
Sidesport
16th November 2005, 20:54
180mm front 200mm back.
Thanks for your seasoned words of wisdom buddy, but I think the forum where people MAY care what you say is..........thataway ----------->
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Whats up with that bitchy comment, lol.
He dosen't belive me smileys/smiley14.gif smileys/smiley17.gif smileys/smiley2.gif
adamsax
16th November 2005, 21:07
180mm front 200mm back.
Thanks for your seasoned words of wisdom buddy, but I think the forum where people MAY care what you say is..........thataway ----------->
smileys/bs.gif
Whats up with that bitchy comment, lol.
He dosen't belive me smileys/smiley14.gif smileys/smiley17.gif smileys/smiley2.gif
Fair enough, bit harsh on my front there smileys/smiley9.gif
Still think its smileys/bs.gif though, it would destroy all handling and, IMO, look shit.
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grantsmith1985
16th November 2005, 21:08
YOu will see, Cant wait to see your car chris.
adamsax
16th November 2005, 21:08
here u go adam my car lowered 40mm on vts
parked on a high spot though
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/craig17furio/PB150002.jpg
COUNTLESS times better on the VTS rims mate, looks much better buddy smileys/smiley20.gif
CAN'T WAIT TO GET MINE NOW! OH MIIIIIIIIKE...... smileys/smiley2.gif
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Sidesport
16th November 2005, 21:18
180mm front 200mm back.
Thanks for your seasoned words of wisdom buddy, but I think the forum where people MAY care what you say is..........thataway ----------->
smileys/bs.gif
Whats up with that bitchy comment, lol.
He dosen't belive me smileys/smiley14.gif smileys/smiley17.gif smileys/smiley2.gif
Fair enough, bit harsh on my front there smileys/smiley9.gif
Still think its smileys/bs.gif though, it would destroy all handling and, IMO, look shit.
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Im running a custom set up air bag suspension system with braided hose's, upgraded solenoid valve's, uprated compressor and larger air tanks.
It can dump the car at least 180mm front 200mm back plus raise it all the way back up past standard height.
No smileys/bs.gif here smileys/smiley14.gif
grantsmith1985
16th November 2005, 21:20
hehe Chris, I was going to say but I didnt want to ruin your fun.
adamsax
16th November 2005, 22:23
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Nice mate........
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My bad...
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