Parkers 0-60 Time's

[dannyboy2005]

looking at a few cars and there bigger engine then mine bu 0-60 times are ALOT slower, ie 15 Seconds from 0-60 where as mine is 12 Seconds.

Do Parkers/ Car makes do this on a full tank of fuel and actually thrashing the engine to get it 0-60, slipping the clutch and red lining it? Or how else would they drive it?

[Ryan]

ever heard of power to weight ratios? different gearbox ratios...

etc etc..

[Mr_X]

thought it was the manufactures quoted times, which can be full tank, half tank, passengers etc etc

[Garry_T]

there all wrong cuz my mates clio shud wipe the floor with my furio and i leave him for dust

[Ryan]

there all wrong cuz my mates clio shud wipe the floor with my furio and i leave him for dust

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[dannyboy2005]

ever heard of power to weight ratios? different gearbox ratios...

etc etc..

Yes, of course. Vauxhals are alot more heavier then a saxo, Over a tonne infact.

But like comparing stats you come across Torque. X amount of turning force can be applied to the wheels, thus in turn making you get pushed back into your seat?

And BHP, i'm assuming this also states how quick off the line it is?

[goodall3518]

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+1 ftl

[stinkycheese]

Yes, of course. Vauxhals are alot more heavier then a saxo, Over a tonne infact.

But like comparing stats you come across Torque. X amount of turning force can be applied to the wheels, thus in turn making you get pushed back into your seat?

And BHP, i'm assuming this also states how quick off the line it is?

bhp isnt anything to do with how quick off the line it is.

[dannyboy2005]

http://www.carkeys.co.uk/images/cm_images/general/powertorque.jpg

So what dose that graph mean (on a webiste explaining torque and bhp but i'm still lost).

Its to confusing this stuff although it dose fanisate me.

Power = Revs x Torque

Bhp = RPM x lb/ft (Divided by) 5252

[ricksimmonds]

looking at a few cars and there bigger engine then mine bu 0-60 times are ALOT slower, ie 15 Seconds from 0-60 where as mine is 12 Seconds.

Do Parkers/ Car makes do this on a full tank of fuel and actually thrashing the engine to get it 0-60, slipping the clutch and red lining it? Or how else would they drive it?

what the hell does slipping the clutch mean!? some sort of 'granny shifting, not double clutching like you should' fast and furious method? lol

also redlining it usualy isnt quick, as your chart above shows, most cars lose power at max rpm, best to change slightly before that decline in power not when you hear the rev limiter ;)

[dannyboy2005]

what the hell does slipping the clutch mean!? some sort of 'granny shifting, not double clutching like you should' fast and furious method? lol

also redlining it usualy isnt quick, as your chart above shows, most cars lose power at max rpm, best to change slightly before that decline in power not when you hear the rev limiter ;)

Slipping the clutch (Thats what i've been told its called) Where you still have the clutch engaged, but only slightly just after you changed gears. When you lift you foot off the clutch it makes your car 'Catapolt' for 'Jump' forward slightly.

*Goes to youtube to find example*

[ricksimmonds]

yeah i know what you mean now mate, so that when you change up into the next gear its at high revs and 'kicks' forward, not sure how much faster that actualy makes you though, probably just f*cks your clutch lol

[dannyboy2005]

I can't find a example of slipping clutch, but going out to try the double clutching method. Never herd of it before but sounds pritty good with the examples on youtube!

[paulrichards]

it all depends on driver (experience)- weight of the car - service of car - petrol. When i got my saxo vts i used normal unleaded in it and it was quick... then thought why the hell not put £20's worth of super in it as i was on the read line and she shifted so much better.

When the manufactures test the car i believe they have half a tank. one racing driver on a track... that is where they test the car anyway before putting the car in production.

[ricksimmonds]

then thought why the hell not put £20's worth of super in it as i was on the read line and she shifted so much better.

might have to put some superrrrr in tonight when i fill up, i cant it making a noticable difference though

[Heliosphan]

0-60mph is fine but I wouldn't judge a car solely on that.

For instance, Clio Williams 0-60mph in 7.6 but it needs 3rd gear to hit 60 hence the car appears slower than it actually is.

I'm sure some of the claimed times are way out too and wouldn't be surprised if some manufacturers use the 0-60 as a marketing ploy. Honda's EK9 is a classic case of this, 0-60mph in 5.7 but most sites etc fail to mention that this was done by a stripped car.

I wish there was a site that showed, in gear times, 1/4 milers, 30-70mph etc. In other words, time trials that show how quick a car is in the real world.

[Garry_T]

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on private property m8

[dannyboy2005]

yeah i know what you mean now mate, so that when you change up into the next gear its at high revs and 'kicks' forward, not sure how much faster that actualy makes you though, probably just f*cks your clutch lol

Yes, dose fuck your clutch up. I've been doing it now and thn and i can feel a slight judder when i pull away sometimes. Only very small but i have another clutch in the garage to wack on it.

So whats the best get away from a standing start without wheel spinning (You loose power wheel spinning :y:). Find the biting point and then hit the gas?

[dannyboy2005]

P.s. Just tried the Double clutching, i noticed nothing expect the car jerking hard when i relese the clutch from 3rd gear - neutreal - neatrual (rev) engage and 3rd

Or maybe i should keep my foot on the gas when i change gear?

[Ryan]

on private property m8

It has nothing to do with that, or the inability to use full english it seems :P

[Ryan]

P.s. Just tried the Double clutching, i noticed nothing expect the car jerking hard when i relese the clutch from 3rd gear - neutreal - neatrual (rev) engage and 3rd

Or maybe i should keep my foot on the gas when i change gear?

You clutch out, when out and clutch when going in, with revs to match, it was how everyone had to drive before synchromesh gearboxes.

[dannyboy2005]

You clutch out, when out and clutch when going in, with revs to match, it was how everyone had to drive before synchromesh gearboxes.

I think i may have been putting to much 'gas' on and letting go of the clutch too qucik.

Funny enough my bosses dad was on about this the other day to me how cars have got so much better over the years.

I'll have another go ;)

[Ryan]

I quite often double clutch without even realising now lol!

[dannyboy2005]

Can you notice any quicker change?

I know if your in a high rev and then change gear normally, you can sometimes hear the car grown when you engage the clutch again, dose this method eliminate that? Thinking aboutit it would cos its not putting any strain on the clutch or any transmision then.

[Dasher_VTR]

bottom line is yes they are out.

close thread.

[Jazz]

Double clutching is a reasonably straight-forward technique, and in todays cars it seldom makes any difference really.

Heel-and-toe shifts is something I find better, harder to do though.

[Ryan]

Heel-and-toe shifts is something I find better, harder to do though.

And is alot more dependant on the pedal position/offset than most people realise.