spam heaven?

[Ashleyp]

no the title does not mean a place for you to spam

anyway:

seems saxP has been over-ridden with spammers lately, several people who are just intent on posting utter crap 24/7. and its bringing the site downhill imo.

i know there was the older generation of spammers who all got banned, which although i got on with some of them, i can see the reasons why it was done

this "new generation" of spammers seem to be doing it just to look cool on the forum, when in actual fact, they look pathetic and immature.. none of them post in the tech sections, and never do they post anything useful in gen chat.

no need to name people, as everyone knows the main spammers

this isnt just a rant, but a point of discussion

and mods, sorry if it should have been put in suggestions / improvments
and yes i know someone will just say ibtl

[Garry_T]

I agreee the amount "ibtl" i see noow while just flicking throughh this this morning is untrue needs to be sorted

[Ashleyp]

I agreee the amount "ibtl" i see noow while just flicking throughh this this morning is untrue needs to be sorted

exactly, occasionally those type of comments are funny, (or used to be) when posted by "funny" members

but it seems every 2 seconds, one of the latest spam whores says it thinking theyre cool and funny...

[Mochachino]

I dont even find ibtl funny tbh.

Saxp is VERY tight on spamming and still is today.

One ofrum i used to be on had over 80k members and most online was 998 at one time, the forum was amazing, was so laid back. Not saying it should be allowed but rasism was fine as it was a forum with many mixed races, manily urban races and poeple didnt care less. It wasnt even called spam it was just the way of the forum. The general chat forum was just for spamming really. Poeple used to just quote poeple and not write anything, and it was such a laugh. Saxp is hard on spammers as it is! Though ive got used to the tightness now.

[badasssaxo]

i agree with ashleyp fully it is becoming a joke tbh,

prob the main reason i aint been on here much lately

[Ashleyp]

i agree with ashleyp fully it is becoming a joke tbh,

prob the main reason i aint been on here much lately

luckily theres always decent threads in the tech sections

in gen chat ive only seen a few threads that have a real discussion behind them, and even then the spammers try to post crap..

not having a go at the mod team either btw, obv they cant control it 100% of the time, just seems as if the "trend" is to be a spammer

brings down the site in many ways, as there are loads of genuine saxo enthusiasts, then you get those who just sit on here 24/7 posting nothing saxo related.. not saying "no spam" its funny once in a while, just got a bit out of control IMO

lucky the rep system isnt here tbh, as we all know the people would abuse it severly (in terms of constant red blobbing noobs) but then on the other hand, the spammers would have been put down by the ammount of neg rep they recieved maybe.. anyway, not a discussion about bring back rep

so lets get back on topic :)

[J222JRA]

i think that some of the spamming is probably due to the people needing 100 posts to see certain sections of the site.

so they see general chat and get excited, time to talk about shit lol

[Mochachino]

Its been mentioned so many times, and i dont know why they dont just do it, and stop post counts in general chat!

Its a saxo site not a general chat site, so post counts in general chat are not needed as much.

If a noob comes on saxp wanting advice, they would have looked at rep, thats not there anymore, now we got thanks, but i dont even know how to view that and it isnt readily available on the user bit at the side of each post how rep used to be, so theyre gonna look at post counts (or at least i would). Some one could rake up 6k posts inn general chat then give one peice of advice in the tech sections and the noob will beliove it and it will be false info. Where as if post counts only exsisted in tech sections its obvious someone knows what theyre talking about or they have a lot of questions about their saxo that keeps breaking!

[Mikey]

there is so many people on here all the time, its impossible not to be a spam fest.

[Luke]

Turn post count off within general chat, that will slow a lot of things now I think.

[-Jason-]

The no post count in general chat seems a good idea.

Also may I add bring back rep ;)

[mattzsaxvtr]

whos bothered, at end of the day its not a race to who gets the most posts and people know this.

its just witty banter between all the members, people enjoy it when a thread goes off topic and eveyone just chats.lets you get to know what members are like, yeah its daft and pointless when "ibtl" comments get put on but thats just how it is,if it was really a big problem im sure simo would do somthing about it.

this is what general chats all about!

you have the jeremy kyle issues that come up and i know some of you guys say ya dont like those topics but really everyone does,i mean look at the other day with " saggy tits" thread that was brilliant some class comments from that tread,
and just mostley members wanting our opnions on there plans or whats going on with there life and they get them from a wide viriety of people. including the little chavy 17 year olds who think they are ten men but then they just get slated for it and you dont here from them.

anyway i hope some of you feel they way i do on this subject. and would like to hear if you do

thanks

[NICK2506]

On the first page of threads in general chat, 8 have been locked :y:

[Crunkers]

whos bothered, at end of the day its not a race to who gets the most posts and people know this.

its just witty banter between all the members, people enjoy it when a thread goes off topic and eveyone just chats.lets you get to know what members are like, yeah its daft and pointless when "ibtl" comments get put on but thats just how it is,if it was really a big problem im sure simo would do somthing about it.

this is what general chats all about!

you have the jeremy kyle issues that come up and i know some of you guys say ya dont like those topics but really everyone does,i mean look at the other day with " saggy tits" thread that was brilliant some class comments from that tread,
and just mostley members wanting our opnions on there plans or whats going on with there life and they get them from a wide viriety of people. including the little chavy 17 year olds who think they are ten men but then they just get slated for it and you dont here from them.

anyway i hope some of you feel they way i do on this subject. and would like to hear if you do

thanks

except they don't 'just chat', slagging matches start and stupid comments are constantly left. If i had a quid for ever IBTL message i have seen over the past week or so i'd be a millionaire

[mattzsaxvtr]

not all the time.and when it does its not meaningfull

[Crunkers]

not all the time.and when it does its not meaningfull

Mate no offence but you've been a member only a few months, when I first joined the sites Gen Chat was far different, there were far less stupid threads being made for no reason. Seems that recently its begun the norm to post utter crap all over the site. People like Simo and the other mods don't need the hassle of having to clear up all the crap all the time. Seems impossible for people to just have a normal convo without it becoming an issue

[Ryyy]

Bottlenob.

Perfect example.

I mainly have a browse in Media section because you get sense talked in there instead of spam, and im up on technology, in Gen-Chat its full of spammage,irelevant topics & pointless threads..I agree Iv'e been guilty of spam once or twice but there are some members on here naming no names..(Bottlenob) who just give nothing to the site

[Barry123]

first time in my life I've been cheesed off with the idiots. fair play if they were funny. but they're not, they're just shit.

[NICK2506]

i think we should make a betting poll on here and we all have to guess how many threads get locked this weekend :)

[Ryyy]

Just have a gander up & down general chat too see how many thread have been locked

Simples.

[Simo]

no the title does not mean a place for you to spam

anyway:

seems saxP has been over-ridden with spammers lately, several people who are just intent on posting utter crap 24/7. and its bringing the site downhill imo.

i know there was the older generation of spammers who all got banned, which although i got on with some of them, i can see the reasons why it was done

this "new generation" of spammers seem to be doing it just to look cool on the forum, when in actual fact, they look pathetic and immature.. none of them post in the tech sections, and never do they post anything useful in gen chat.

no need to name people, as everyone knows the main spammers

this isnt just a rant, but a point of discussion

and mods, sorry if it should have been put in suggestions / improvments
and yes i know someone will just say ibtl


Sorry, I dont have time to read all replies... but I posed about this last night.

The amount of spam is simply taking the pi$$. This needs to get sorted. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, I'd prefer to close the site down rather than see it spiral into an out of control spam-pit.

One idiot was temp-banned last night... maybe the answer is no more chances, permenant bans. I dont have time to mess around.

Spammers and mod's take note... this needs sorting.

[mattzsaxvtr]

Mate no offence but you've been a member only a few months, when I first joined the sites Gen Chat was far different, there were far less stupid threads being made for no reason. Seems that recently its begun the norm to post utter crap all over the site. People like Simo and the other mods don't need the hassle of having to clear up all the crap all the time. Seems impossible for people to just have a normal convo without it becoming an issue

yeah i have but look at it from my point of view, i come on saxp
because its great to find out problems and i do because theres some really helpfull kids on here,also parts and things for sale for the car, and general chat and its one things i go on alot because some things that do get said are funny and do make ya chuckle, but just face it times change,

when this first started there was no 17 -19 year old imature spamming members because of the simple fact that not eveyone could afford a vt or a saxo in genreral, now they are cheaper lots of young drivers buy them i.e why where getting so many dickheads on here.

[baker556]

yeah i have but look at it from my point of view, i come on saxp
because its great to find out problems and i do because theres some really helpfull kids on here,also parts and things for sale for the car, and general chat and its one things i go on alot because some things that do get said are funny and do make ya chuckle, but just face it times change,

when this first started there was no 17 -19 year old imature spamming members because of the simple fact that not eveyone could afford a vt or a saxo in genreral, now they are cheaper lots of young drivers buy them i.e why where getting so many dickheads on here.

Discrimination ! Im 19 started on the site when i was 16/17 and rarely spam usually post in the tech chat anyways.

[NICK2506]

Discrimination ! Im 19 started on the site when i was 16/17 and rarely spam usually post in the tech chat anyways.

which is shown here: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232024 ....mainly 18 year olds.
hardly anyone over 21 really compared to under 21, or maybe its just the older members have given up looking in general chat, so didnt see my thread.

but im 17, and i joined last summer when i was 16 and just turning 17, and i dont spam...well i have done like twice...but only in threads that are obviously about to get locked up....

[MrHouston]

I agree alot of spam has taken place recently and alot of pointless topics have been made! But general chat is well.. general chat.. to chat about anything. I help out alot in the tech forums and come in general chat to to read some entertaining threads, and recently I don't know why but there has been alot

[dannyboy2005]

Turn post count off within general chat, that will slow a lot of things now I think.
This wont work. People will go elsewere to spam and get their post chats up.

The no post count in general chat seems a good idea.

Also may I add bring back rep ;)
The rep system was good untill you had n00bs just give you neg rep for "Cos i can".. What sort of reason is that and you can't neg reg them back.

Sorry, I dont have time to read all replies... but I posed about this last night.

The amount of spam is simply taking the pi$$. This needs to get sorted. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, I'd prefer to close the site down rather than see it spiral into an out of control spam-pit.

One idiot was temp-banned last night... maybe the answer is no more chances, permenant bans. I dont have time to mess around.

Spammers and mod's take note... this needs sorting.
I think the mods should all get together, close the site down (or at least close general chat down) for a good few days and delete all the spam threads.

I see alot of threads have been locked. But why on earth arn't they deleted instead. Makes the place look clean and tidy and will stop people making other threads up regarding that locked thread.

[NICK2506]

I think the mods should all get together, close the site down (or at least close general chat down) for a good few days and delete all the spam threads.

I see alot of threads have been locked. But why on earth arn't they deleted instead. Makes the place look clean and tidy and will stop people making other threads up regarding that locked thread.

if they delete spam threads, SaXo_vtr123 and VTEC-saxo's post count will go back to like 20 posts. :y:

[VtsTom]

What exactly is classed as spam?

[dannyboy2005]

if they delete spam threads, SaXo_vtr123 and VTEC-saxo's post count will go back to like 20 posts. :y:

Well they are premi ban, so it dosn't matter.

And i don't think the post system runs like that. When i used to run a forum and delete threads, the persons thread count stayed the same.

[dannyboy2005]

What exactly is classed as spam?

Talking total rubbish /

[NICK2506]

Well they are premi ban, so it dosn't matter.

And i don't think the post system runs like that. When i used to run a forum and delete threads, the persons thread count stayed the same.

hmm well i posted in a thread the other day that got deleted and my post count went down...
i swear vtec-saxo can post again now?

[Luke]

Well they are premi ban, so it dosn't matter.

And i don't think the post system runs like that. When i used to run a forum and delete threads, the persons thread count stayed the same.

Depends if you physically remove the thread or soft delete it.

[webby]

when first on the site i found myself enjoying all sections of the site. but as of late i stick to mainy the tech sections but even they seem to be getting over-run with pointless threads. and most of the stuff is either covered in a thread a few down or is in the stickies. i like the idea of posts in general not counting, then maybe strict moderating on other sections.

[dannyboy2005]

Ask John_G his views on Sax P


Sorry to drop you in it :L

[Robin91]

It used to be funny at times with the likes of Rem etc, but now it's just annoying little sheep who just copy what the 'funny' people say to try and be funny, and they just look like cocks tbh. I think anyone who posts 'IBTL' should get an instant ban, maybe 1 temp, and then a perma if they do it again.

[Robin91]

Ask John_G his views on Sax P


Sorry to drop you in it :L

Prime example of the sort of person i'm talking about tbh (sheep part).

[dannyboy2005]

Depends if you physically remove the thread or soft delete it.
soft delete? As far as i was aware, you keep your post count as the forum isn't clever enough to remove a post count from you?

hmm well i posted in a thread the other day that got deleted and my post count went down...
i swear vtec-saxo can post again now?
I don't think so. We'll see if he pops up later on shell we?

[Luke]

Depends what forum you are using I guess.

[NICK2506]

What exactly is classed as spam?

like this:

just pointless talking - http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232064

and this: (i did post in this :S my sincere appologies) http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232113
^^ tbh that thread is quite funny, especially post 18 & 19 (soz simo, but it is funny) lol ^^

[Jorge-]

This is what pisses me off about this site, you can't seem to read anyones threads without seeing some shit internet slag, tbh, tbf, gtfo, and most annoyingly, ibtl.

They seem to copy members with a status on the site, and think they look cool by doing it.

I am sure my opinion means nothing. Just felt like a bit of a bitch.

[dannyboy2005]

How about, people MUST post in the newbies section before they can even post/ view the rest of the forum.

There should be a criteria in the newbies section. Must state your name, where you live, forum expierences (links) and a short description why you've signed up. (Name and where you live can be traced by the IP)

Then the mods can tell by his spelling and grammar if his a typical chav who "Wntz 2 bolt a turbo 2 his 1.1" and then mods can approve or disaprove (Anomaously (sp)) weather his hear for spam or for general help? Perhaps have 3 mods to approve?

Much more of a fair way tbf.

[turnip]

maybe a slangging spam fest section?...lol no post count of course

[MrHouston]

This is spam, but Danny your sig is annoying as fuck

[Robin91]

How about, people MUST post in the newbies section before they can even post/ view the rest of the forum.

There should be a criteria in the newbies section. Must state your name, where you live, forum expierences (links) and a short description why you've signed up. (Name and where you live can be traced by the IP)

Then the mods can tell by his spelling and grammar if his a typical chav who "Wntz 2 bolt a turbo 2 his 1.1" and then mods can approve or disaprove (Anomaously (sp)) weather his hear for spam or for general help? Perhaps have 3 mods to approve?

Much more of a fair way tbf.

I'm sorry, but that's the most retarded, dumbest idea i've ever heard.. This isn't a prison, if they implemented something like that this site would die within a week!

They just need to make it clear that spamming isn't tolerated, and take action on the idiots who keep doing it, that or make a section dedicated to spam for all the idiots. (Misc anyone?)

[Ryyy]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232159

Why..Just..Why?

[NICK2506]

tbh you could say that they just have to stay strict like they are at the moment, and just keep banning people who spam, cause perservirance will pay off....

.....but i think quite a few people on here like winding up the mods, and to get banned is like a reward. they just keep pushing it.....immature.

[NICK2506]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232159

Why..Just..Why?

especially after this: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232106 tut tut

[mattzsaxvtr]

you two are doing it right now and complaining about otheres doing it!!!!!
only way to stop it is to ban them or stop post count on here,.

now please close this or move it to another forum

[dannyboy2005]

This is spam, but Danny your sig is annoying as fuck

dude. That is a sig. If sax p didn't want anyone to have the biggest, boldest font ever then they would limit the sig options. Grabs peoples attention too ;). Perhaps i'll make a .GIF sig with it.

Anyway.

Cant the geeky guys make a forum where it reconsie's spam?

[mattzsaxvtr]

danny = spammer

just leave it im sure now its been brought to simos attention something will be done in the near future.

[Barry123]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232159

Why..Just..Why?

to be fair to sammy, he got absolutely (unfairly) slated when he first came on to the site and now you get the situation where he's probably trying too hard if you get me to 'fit in' with the community. He's in no way a nuisance compared to most other buggers, although his threads are a bit pants.

[Ryyy]

you two are doing it right now and complaining about otheres doing it!!!!!
only way to stop it is to ban them or stop post count on here,.

now please close this or move it to another forum

1.Your'e only trying to point the "spamming" finger at certain people because it may make you look cool
2.I ain't spamming, I was just browsing GenChat and saw another Happy Birthhday to me thread, they piss me off alot..I didnt do that when I turned 18 so why should other attention seekers
3.This will probably be moved to the improvements part of the forum I guess so there's no point whining

[mattzsaxvtr]

this thread is one big spam

[AnthonyVTR]

Maybe have a thread where people can just talk rubbish? And then say, once a week it gets emptied? Postcount doesn't go up either...

[Crunkers]

this thread is one big spam

No its not mate, there are people voicing their concerns over what is continuely occurring across the forum. You posting what you are is not helping the situation, all you're doing is adding to the problem, stop the bitching and useless citicisms.

Simo has said that something needs to be done, so he is obviously looking into the situation, we'll have to see what he decides

[Crunkers]

Maybe have a thread where people can just talk rubbish? And then say, once a week it gets emptied? Postcount doesn't go up either...

Unfortunately it will not stop the spamming from spreading

[Ryyy]

All forums, everywhere, all the time are covered in spam, its natural
I think the level of spam in here isn't as serious as some are making out, other forums are covered in it from head to toe

[craig180]

There are pros and cons with using saxperience and in my opinion the pros way outweigh the cons.

Unfortunately one of the cons at the moment is the mass influx of retards that are incapable of reading the rules and abusing the system.

Hopefully this is just a fad that will die down (it seems to come and go) and things will settle back down again.

I have to say though I could quite easily publish a list of well known spammers to try and shame them into calming it down a bit

[Ryyy]

Please, go ahead name names

[kenny]

saxp is turning shite these days, im sick of the constant shite threads about whats faster etc and spam in almost every thread aswel.

all you idiots spamming grow the fuck up.

[CaptainYid]

as a few of you have said, spam will happen on the internet. whether its someone telling themselves happy birthday or someone else dropping unneeded comments it happens.

with the newbies, like me, its harder for us because we feel we have to drop a few comments on posts trying to be helpful. ok theres some comments like some from bottlenob that are noway helpful. but im trying to help and should i drop any spam, i do sincerely apologise

[kenny]

as a few of you have said, spam will happen on the internet. whether its someone telling themselves happy birthday or someone else dropping unneeded comments it happens.

with the newbies, like me, its harder for us because we feel we have to drop a few comments on posts trying to be helpful. ok theres some comments like some from bottlenob that are noway helpful. but im trying to help and should i drop any spam, i do sincerely apologise

im not saying all new members spam and talk utter shite. theres a few members on here that have been on here less time than me and have double if not triple my post count. its a joke tbh.

be yourself and you will fit in dude.

[666]

sax-p has gone down hill since the start of 2009 imo
(i was only on here a couple of months befor it went downhill)
theres a load of dickheads that have jumped on here lately that make pointless threads every 5 mins, spam the hell out of every thread and it has killed this site,
we all used to spam the hell out of 1 thread a week, 20+ pages, then that was it we all got on with it for another week,
are the mod's even botherd anymore, i got a warning for 1 opinion and these prats get away with what thay like, its no wonder that most members are heading to other forums
how many of the long standing members are on here now, most members had 15,000+
posts when i joind, now look 300-600 every were, just shows how badly this sites gone to shit in about 3 months,
*grabs coat and goes back to another forum*

[Tony]

I've heard a few people saying about how they think that Sax-P is bad for spam.

Tbh, I've not noticed a change but dont just whore it up in General Chat and never have, hence my post count in 6 years.

Join date and post count is always an indicator for me.

But are there not what people would consider spammers in here?

I'm not thinking of anyone in particular but can you really make 2,000 - 6,000 or 12,000 useful non-spam posts in 1 or 2 years?

My point with that is it is coming across a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

[kenny]

I've heard a few people saying about how they think that Sax-P is bad for spam.

Tbh, I've not noticed a change but dont just whore it up in General Chat and never have, hence my post count in 6 years.

Join date and post count is always an indicator for me.

But are there not what people would consider spammers in here?

I'm not thinking of anyone in particular but can you really make 2,000 - 6,000 or 12,000 useful non-spam posts in 1 or 2 years?

My point with that is it is coming across a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

im an old school sort of member aswel and tbh ive noticed a huge change. to much spam everywhere and it stopped me logging on for a while as i couldnt be arsed with it. i come back on after about 3-4 months and its getting worse.

Something needs done drasticly

[JamesR]

I have hardly been on here over the last 3 weeks, but i have seen a lot of Closed threads in gen chat, which are just pointless threads. :n:

[cj_99]

Just for anyone that hasnt seen it yet

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232211

[NICK2506]

I have hardly been on here over the last 3 weeks, but i have seen a lot of Closed threads in gen chat, which are just pointless threads. :n:

blimey...your telling the truth!! your activity is only 14%!!

[Ryyy]

I have to admit to one thing though if im totally honest..

This site is mighty strict

[NICK2506]

I have to admit to one thing though if im totally honest..

This site is mighty strict

its quite strict like down to the users, everyones on the same band wagon (if thats the phrase)

if you say you were a bit over the speed limit you get abuse.
if you have lexus lights or racing stripes you get abuse.
if you say you raced someone off some lights you get abuse.

but i do kinda agree cause we need to get rid of the chavvy saxo image.

i still love saxp though :hug:

[Ryyy]

I came on here for advice ages and ages ago due to me driving without a prov licence and got 100% slated for it..Pages full of "your a tit" and "grow up" and this was from some of the more...established members of this site..

Yes, you know who you are.

[Tony]

I have to admit to one thing though if im totally honest..

This site is mighty strict

its quite strict like down to the users, everyones on the same band wagon (if thats the phrase)

if you say you were a bit over the speed limit you get abuse.
if you have lexus lights or racing stripes you get abuse.
if you say you raced someone off some lights you get abuse.

but i do kinda agree cause we need to get rid of the chavvy saxo image.

i still love saxp though :hug:

I came on here for advice ages and ages ago due to me driving without a prov licence and got 100% slated for it..Pages full of "your a tit" and "grow up" and this was from some of the more...established members of this site..

Yes, you know who you are.

This site is not strict, PGAC is a strict place lol. Spend some time on there (if you can) then come back here and it'll feel like a breath of fresh air.

If you have chavy mods I think you get abuse on most sites. They dont get defended as the only other people with those mods are doing a burnout in McDs carpark ;)

But I think that there are people on here who have grown up and dont want to be associated with stupid driving and the bad rep saxos had/have. If people talk about it on here it makes the forum look bad.

Ryan - You drove without even a provisional? That is stupid mate.

I think a lot of people who do things by the book and pay their insurance premiums every year dont appreciated a portion of that going in to the fund for uninsured drivers. So if you dont even have a licence then the chances are you wont have insurance either.

[BenSilverSaxo]

Who's been spamming? Name and shame?

[Ryan]

I think this one shall be locked for the time being so its all discussed in simos thread.

No other reason other than to keep it all in 1 thread etc....