£1500 & 200bhp??

[pr0xibus]

I dont know if its the right palce to post this but

Is it possible to have 200bhp out of a vtr or a vts engine for 1500 - 2000 without turbo?

[Cal]

I can do it mate. I use a special system where liquid horse shit is injected into the fuel system.

PM me for more details

Seriously... probably not tbh

[Mieran]

Not possible.

You can get other cars for that money which already have 200BHP.

[pr0xibus]

lol sound fun then my car would speak more shite than you

[pr0xibus]

Not possible.

You can get other cars for that money which already have 200BHP.

cheers for the reply was just wondering thats all

[Cal]

lol sound fun then my car would speak more shite than youProbably not tbh... have you tried V-power?

<3

[pr0xibus]

Probably not tbh... have you tried V-power?

ha ha yeah added it this morning 80bhp straight away was good lol

[Cal]

I'm sorry mate, ignore me... I'm fucking knackered and canny be arsed with work lol

[pr0xibus]

I'm sorry mate, ignore me... I'm fucking knackered and canny be arsed with work lol

lol its aright knackered masel stuck infront o this sh1t computer all day lol

[AXracing]

Generally the only way you could do that is with N2O. However it costs a fortune to fill and is very hard on engines a lot like turbos are so with out spending a lot more to uprate other parts its never going to last long. In the long run it will just end up cheaper to use a turbo or supercharger.

[pr0xibus]

Generally the only way you could do that is with N2O. However it costs a fortune to fill and is very hard on engines a lot like turbos are so with out spending a lot more to uprate other parts its never going to last long. In the long run it will just end up cheaper to use a turbo or supercharger.

cheers for the reply, i would like a turbo but for even 2k you are looking at a starter kit from CI tuning, in the end it would probably be best me buying another car tbh

cheers

[craig180]

Yes it is possible. Give it a good service, straight through exhaust system them whack 100 shot of NOS through the bugger. Should be within budget and kill most cars at the traffic light grand prix

Then explode in a ball of fire

[pr0xibus]

Yes it is possible. Give it a good service, straight through exhaust system them whack 100 shot of NOS through the bugger. Should be within budget and kill most cars at the traffic light grand prix

Then explode in a ball of fire

cheers for the reply
lol white text i like lol yeah would probably be good but im starting to think saxo and 200bhp not really reliable unless i spend probably more 4-6k on it

[Mieran]

Lets make a list of cars you can buy for £1500 and has 200bhp or a very near figure from a N/A engine as standard:

1- Vauxhall Vectra B GSI - 192BHP

[williamsvts]

you can get imprezas for that price now, and sti engines for under £500, put that in the back of your saxo, just use the MA gearbox to keep costs down.

[leeroybrown]

An sti engine for 500 is gonna last for all off 2 seconds

The heads of a decent type r sti go for 1k!

[Tony]

So in summary, no without copious amounts of laughing gas.

[Mike-VTR]

3000gt/gto 289bhp 3.0 v6 24v twin turbo as standard

can get them piss cheap e.g 1500 quid

[JamesR]

Lets make a list of cars you can buy for £1500 and has 200bhp or a very near figure from a N/A engine as standard:

1- Vauxhall Vectra B GSI - 192BHP

+1 on this, then just get the usual, catback, induction, manifold and you would be there :y:

[JBVTR]

2.0 16v xsara engine has about 170bhp standard put one of them in with a few mods should be near 200bhp ?

[Nij]

Yes it is possible. Give it a good service, straight through exhaust system them whack 100 shot of NOS through the bugger. Should be within budget and kill most cars at the traffic light grand prix

Then explode in a ball of fire

my thoughts exactly, infact, i almost bought a 50 shot for £325 the other day, so that would have been £1950ish on my engine. How true a 50 shot is at giving you a 50BHP increase is another question.

[dannyboycov1991]

rover 220 turbo tomcat. 200bhp standard

[Ryan]

I dont get how people ever get the idea that they are going to get almost double power out of an engine NA from spending barely any money :S

200bhp NA vts engines without the use of nos will be circa 7-10k depending on who you use in reality.

Some people dont buy 200bhp Vectras because they like saxos and dont like vectras , its all horses for courses...

[maddison_vts]

my thoughts exactly, infact, i almost bought a 50 shot for £325 the other day, so that would have been £1950ish on my engine. How true a 50 shot is at giving you a 50BHP increase is another question.

wizards of nos tend to bre the best systems, when set up correctly a 50bhp shot can give you approx 45bhp. its the turque that is the incredible bit. 75-80 lbs/ft torque of a 50bhp shot!


and in response to a vectra....... it has to be one of the most woeful cars to go out and buy!!!! :homme:

[tom130691]

ya can get close to 200 with that money i no a guy who has 182 i think it was(N/A)

cams lightend pullys throottle bodies portpolish ect long list

[huskeydog]

to be fair u couold put a 180 bhp saxo up against a 200bhp vectra and the only place the vectra is even got the slightest chance o chatching you is on the motorway you could drive bout anywere else all day long and the vectra wouldnt stand a chance especially corners

[Ryan]

ya can get close to 200 with that money i no a guy who has 182 i think it was(N/A)

cams lightend pullys throottle bodies portpolish ect long list

Is that you can or cant? As throttle bodies + ECU + mapping usually wont see change from 2k alone.

Plus a 182 engine is a bit different to a saxo engine isnt it ;)

[Ryan]

to be fair u couold put a 180 bhp saxo up against a 200bhp vectra and the only place the vectra is even got the slightest chance o chatching you is on the motorway you could drive bout anywere else all day long and the vectra wouldnt stand a chance especially corners

But you can carry more tuppleware to sell in the vectra :homme:

[KamRacing]

For the right camshafts and headwork you are looking at £2k as you will need solid lifters etc.
Then you need forged pistons, throttlebodies, ecu, loom, mapping, bigger injectors, manifold, exhaust system....
£6k maybe if you are lucky....

[maddison_vts]

to be fair u couold put a 180 bhp saxo up against a 200bhp vectra and the only place the vectra is even got the slightest chance o chatching you is on the motorway you could drive bout anywere else all day long and the vectra wouldnt stand a chance especially corners

you certainly don't need that much power to beat a vectra! a standard vts would run rings round a vectra gsi as long as there were corners involoved.

handling has never been a strong point for vauxhall.....

[andywiddss1]

my thoughts exactly, infact, i almost bought a 50 shot for £325 the other day, so that would have been £1950ish on my engine. How true a 50 shot is at giving you a 50BHP increase is another question.

u dont buy a 50 shot u buy the kit and fit what ever jets u want from 25 to 200 :fcuk:

[Mike-VTR]

Plus a 182 engine is a bit different to a saxo engine isnt it ;)

i think he means 182 from a saxo engine

[pr0xibus]

cheers for the reply guys,

i was just wondering if its possible thats all
so from a 98bhp vtr engine & for 1.5 - 2k i would maybe looking at a 20 - 40 bhp increase, depending what i was considering doing?? or would probably be a good idea just buying a vts engine and doing that up

[-Dan-]

cheers for the reply guys,

i was just wondering if its possible thats all
so from a 98bhp vtr engine & for 1.5 - 2k i would maybe looking at a 20 - 40 bhp increase, depending what i was considering doing?? or would probably be a good idea just buying a vts engine and doing that up

Spot on mate. £300ish + (Fitting) for an instant 22bhp gain is about the best increase per £ available on a Saxo.

If you think people spend nearly double that on cams, timing, remap etc for a similar gain, your onto a winner.

S engine ftw.

[weeguyno7]

2.0 16v xsara engine has about 170bhp standard put one of them in with a few mods should be near 200bhp ?

http://i2.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/26/b7/f57d_2.JPG

[Jazz]

I dont know if its the right palce to post this but

Is it possible to have 200bhp out of a vtr or a vts engine for 1500 - 2000 without turbo?

Long shot but is possible- not that your engine will last that long mind.

400 on breathing mods, that included zorst, manifold, induction kit.
600 on cams and a proper remap, so far approx 145-150bhp on a VTS engine for about 1k. (ideally should spend more on lifters etc though, this is the bare minimum)

That leaves 1000 left- then you go for Nitrous Oxide. A properly installed Wizards of Nos kit will cost you just under 1k to buy and fit, with capactity for up to a 100 shot of Nos, which on a saxo engine would be around 50-60bhp I'd imagine.

That would give you in total around 200bhp at flywheel all for 2k, although if you want your engine to last more than a few races you'll need to look at strengthening the block a little, especially if the engine has done some miles.

[oli208]

To get a vts putting out 200bhp+ you need to spend at least 4k, i have been reseaching:)

[stiffler69]

I got exhaust, decat, cam, bmc and manifold for my vtr then had it mapped it made 120bhp, 30 bhp up from the standard 90.

I bought second hand on some parts and saved a fair bit of cash in doing so, remap was just over £300 probably the most exspensive part.

[endlesstimes]

lol sound fun then my car would speak more shite than you

lmao legend - real talk.

[Ryan]

To get a vts putting out 200bhp+ you need to spend at least 4k, i have been reseaching:)

4k..

That will get you the bottom end and head built but not the bodies/ecu/mapping/exhaust etc... :homme:

As said look at 6-7k+

incase anyone thinks 4K plus is around 4k.

[RJE]

i doubt it you woiuld need a turb

[Dboyvts]

Your looking at well over 5K to do a 200hp 16v engine and to run a 8v to that power your talking boost or a very very large bill from Gmc to stay na.

Na is a good way of making power but have more potential with boost and for the same cash could make alot more power. Say 7k for a NA set up i would sell my s/c engine for around 5k mark and thats good for over 300hp.