Need some help on vewing a car......he's on his way....its a rover/mg lol!

[wilksey]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1138189.htm

AS WE SPEAK THE LAD IS COMING DOWN TO MY HOUSE SO I CAN VIEW HIS MG ZR 2.0 TURBO RUNNING 240ISH BRAKE

ITS A 1999 218 SI WITH A MG ZR BODY KIT LOWERED 60MM

IVE BEEN SPEAKING TO HIM ALL DAY ABOUT THE SPEC AND HOW MUCH HE WANTS

IM GOING TO BE PART EX'IN MY SAXO PLUS 800 CASH HIS WAY

ITS HAD NEW

GEARBOX
DRIVE SHAFTS
CLUTCH
PLUGS
FUEL FILTER
LOWER ARMS
TURBO

THE LIST GOES ON

THE ROOF IS CURRENTLY JUST PRIMER AS HE/I WILL BE SPARAYING IT BLACK

WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT

WAS LOOKINF AT S2 106 RALLYE AND GLANZA V'S

BUT FOR THE PRICE I THINK THIS WILL BE A WINNER

I KNOW ALOT OF YOU THINK ITS TO CHAVY BUT IT WILL ONLY BE A SUNDAY CAR

SHOULD I SWAP THE VTR FOR THIS (HAS A FEW PROBLEMS NOW)

WHICH HE IS WILLING TO FIX

ITS ALSO GOT BOOST CONTROL FOR 7PSI OR 13PSI

IS 13PSI OK FOR A TURBO, IF ANYONE ONES A TURBO CAN I HAVE SOME ADVICE PLEAESE!! ON WHAT TO LOOK FOR ON THE CAR

IM GOING TO TEST DRIVE TO SEE HOW IT DRIVES

ANY ADVICE WELCOME

THANKS

[SaxBuild]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1138189.htm

AS WE SPEAK THE LAD IS COMING DOWN TO MY HOUSE SO I CAN VIEW HIS MG ZR 2.0 TURBO RUNNING 240ISH BRAKE

ITS A 1999 218 SI WITH A MG ZR BODY KIT LOWERED 60MM

IVE BEEN SPEAKING TO HIM ALL DAY ABOUT THE SPEC AND HOW MUCH HE WANTS

IM GOING TO BE PART EX'IN MY SAXO PLUS 800 CASH HIS WAY

ITS HAD NEW

GEARBOX
DRIVE SHAFTS
CLUTCH
PLUGS
FUEL FILTER
LOWER ARMS
TURBO

THE LIST GOES ON

THE ROOF IS CURRENTLY JUST PRIMER AS HE/I WILL BE SPARAYING IT BLACK

WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT

WAS LOOKINF AT S2 106 RALLYE AND GLANZA V'S

BUT FOR THE PRICE I THINK THIS WILL BE A WINNER

I KNOW ALOT OF YOU THINK ITS TO CHAVY BUT IT WILL ONLY BE A SUNDAY CAR

SHOULD I SWAP THE VTR FOR THIS (HAS A FEW PROBLEMS NOW)

WHICH HE IS WILLING TO FIX

ITS ALSO GOT BOOST CONTROL FOR 7PSI OR 13PSI

IS 13PSI OK FOR A TURBO, IF ANYONE ONES A TURBO CAN I HAVE SOME ADVICE PLEAESE!! ON WHAT TO LOOK FOR ON THE CAR

IM GOING TO TEST DRIVE TO SEE HOW IT DRIVES

ANY ADVICE WELCOME

THANKS

I would sugest you don't purchase it untill the log book details have been changed, as clearly stated its a 1.8 and not a 2.0. If you get pulled in it and it shows up on system as a 1.8 and not the 2.0, you could potentialy lose it and have it crushed.

The car currently is illegal

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/ChangesToYourRegistrationCertificate/DG_4022054

[swampy]

also it will NEVER be an mg just a kitted up rover

insurance WILL be a killer as not only has it had an engine change its also had a fairly hefty amount of work done.

[Hpi_matrix]

I would sugest you don't purchase it untill the log book details have been changed, as clearly stated its a 1.8 and not a 2.0. If you get pulled in it and it shows up on system as a 1.8 and not the 2.0, you could potentialy lose it and have it crushed.

The car currently is illegal

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/ChangesToYourRegistrationCertificate/DG_4022054

Iv heard this scare story before, surely you could say you've contacted the DVLA and its just going through the system? Plenty of people insure there cars properly but dont change this due to the hassle of the DVLA, just look at what they want as proof...anyone doing an engine change themself would not have any of the proper documents to prove the engine change. It would also take a right bell-end copper to look under the bonnet.

Personally id prefer the old school 420 GSi turbo or 220 tomcat

[arsenal_69r]

not for me to bo honest, but your choice, also here that alot of things go wrong with them?

[SaxBuild]

Iv heard this scare story before, surely you could say you've contacted the DVLA and its just going through the system? Plenty of people insure there cars properly but dont change this due to the hassle of the DVLA, just look at what they want as proof...anyone doing an engine change themself would not have any of the proper documents to prove the engine change. It would also take a right bell-end copper to look under the bonnet.

Personally id prefer the old school 420 GSi turbo or 220 tomcat
It is a legal requirement to notify the DVLA of any changes to the car, this includes engine size. Insureing a car without first notifying the DVLA of engine size invalidates the insurance, if you have an accident in a car that is down on the log book as a 1.8 and the engine size is 2.0 you will be done for no insurance.

I also take it you have never been pulled by the police for a vehicle inspection order.

All it would cost is about £40 for a garage to confirm engine size.

It's not a scare story at all.

[wilksey]

How reliavle r rover engines being jap and all?

[SaxBuild]

How reliavle r rover engines being jap and all?Not as reliable as the a true rover engine, but good on parts.

[wilksey]

Can i ask 1 more question..........the owner has no service book as he has done most the work himself and a pile of receipts for part and labour and no log book, if i decide to buy i will send the green slip off to dvla will they send me new log book??? All help appreciated

im so confused on what to do about the car it pulls like a train and has nothing majorly wrong.

[Hpi_matrix]

if you have an accident in a car that is down on the log book as a 1.8 and the engine size is 2.0 you will be done for no insurance.


No you wont, if you dont tell the insurence company about the engine change then you have no insurence. The DVLA dont insure you.

Like I said before the police arent going to do you on the spot if you tell them you've told the dvla and you have correct insurence, are they? Everyone knows the DVLA are slow at changing things on there computer system, including the police.


I also take it you have never been pulled by the police for a vehicle inspection order.


No I havent, I havent heard of anyone having one either, i suspect 99% of people on here havent had one either.

Iv had the popo check my tyres before if thats what you mean?

Have you had an inspection under the bonnet? If so what does your car look like?

[Hpi_matrix]

Can i ask 1 more question..........the owner has no service book as he has done most the work himself and a pile of receipts for part and labour and no log book, if i decide to buy i will send the green slip off to dvla will they send me new log book??? All help appreciated

im so confused on what to do about the car it pulls like a train and has nothing majorly wrong.

Get it HPI checked before you buy it!

Do you know what engine its running? Rover had a tie with Honda near the end of there life and so used some Honda engines. Im only fimilar with rovers post 1995 though.

Its only the K-series with head gasket problems that lead people to think there unreliable. If the headgasket is changed to the improved type or its reguarly serviced then its just as good as any other engine and a very good design at that.

[wilksey]

Yes mate its a 220 gsi turbo engine it isnt a k series its the other 1

the car is safly running at 13 psi but i will probably turn it down to 10 to be on the safe side.

And it had a new head gasket 5k ago

opinions?

[SaxBuild]

No you wont, if you dont tell the insurence company about the engine change then you have no insurence. The DVLA dont insure you.
Didn't say anything about the DVLA insuring you, I clearly stated if pulled by police in a car marked as a 1.8 and clearly a 2.0 insurance is not vallied and you get fooked for it or even a crash

Like I said before the police arent going to do you on the spot if you tell them you've told the dvla and you have correct insurence, are they? Everyone knows the DVLA are slow at changing things on there computer system, including the police.
Actually police will ask you when you notified the DVLA and then ring them to check, to which you will also get a 7 day producer.



No I havent, I havent heard of anyone having one either, i suspect 99% of people on here havent had one either.
I have twice and on both occasions its been a full inspection of the car at the road side, it happens a lot.

Iv had the popo check my tyres before if thats what you mean?

Have you had an inspection under the bonnet? If so what does your car look like?
As quoted above.

As soon as the DVLA receive the V5, its logged onto the system. Theres no such thing as post not being opened with the DVLA. It only takes time to update the records, to which they get hundreds a day to do.

[Rob-6]

wont it be dark when you look at it!

[Chin]

I think i saw this a few times @ rovertech.net.

It's been owned by a guy that got banned 2 or 3 times but kept on registering.

I might be wrong though, still looks a good motor.

[wilksey]

No he come at 8pm still light

is a part ex on my saxo and a 1000 cash a good deal

only a few bits that need doing ie new starter motor as the other is on its

way out? Has any1 had any experience with rover turbos?

[Rob-6]

looks pretty good actually cant beat that woooootish either lol

[666]

is he giveing you the 1000pound? if not hell no

220t lumps arnt as reliable as you would hope, boost will kill them, and the heads can warp,
its not woth more than a standed car thow so dont think cos the engine its a great deal, tomcats are cheep as fuck

[wilksey]

If i turn the boost down 666 and not rag it everywhere it should be ok?

Its a 1998 and a new engine with 55000 with new gasket done 5k ago

im giving the 1000 pound mate my saxo's only worth about a grand now

and i prefer the bubble shape rather than the top cat coupe style

[wilksey]

as quoted above.

As soon as the dvla receive the v5, its logged onto the system. Theres no such thing as post not being opened with the dvla. It only takes time to update the records, to which they get hundreds a day to do.

so when the recieve it i will revieve a new log book via post?

[scot-ish]

no, you need him to send the log book off, the green slip is not of much use apart from sayin you own it, they require the log book being sent off

[wilksey]

He hasnt got one or a service book this isnt as good as it seams

where can i get another log book and service book from

or is there no way

he has done all the work himself so didnt need a service book as such

and as for the log book fuck knows lol

[digital]

dont...

[Darlo-paul]

Personally mate i'd stay away from it, if it seems the previous owner is chavvy and he's trashed it about.
Just my opinion tho

[Matt67]

I don't know why but the thread title really makes me laugh, i think i need help.

[Darlo-paul]

I don't know why but the thread title really makes me laugh, i think i need help.

atleast 'lol' isn't in capital letters

[baker556]

Think you should stay away tbh mate logbook costs like £30 to send off for or something similar to that, also no service history and its a rover with a turbo fairly unreliable tbh ! plus a grand, whats the reason for getting rid of, if your really going to px don't give away that amount of money half of it at least as it does have a few problems...

[Hpi_matrix]

As quoted above.

As soon as the DVLA receive the V5, its logged onto the system. Theres no such thing as post not being opened with the DVLA. It only takes time to update the records, to which they get hundreds a day to do.

So your saying if I change the engine in my car, tell my insurance about the engine change but not the DVLA then im still not insured? I think the insurance company would have a hard time not paying out as you've declared everything to them.

I also fail to see how the police can "fook" you, what happens if the letter you send to the DVLA explaining the changes and evidence gets lost in the post? This wont emerge until some weeks later.

Im also finding this "full inspection" stuff hard to believe iv never seen a copper look under the bonnet of any motor and cant find anything on it on the internet.

Regarding the T-series and boost, I thought it could take plenty I thought the gearbox was the weak point with more power?

[Japman]

13 psi is a tad to high

11 psi at the mst

[potatopete]

IM GOING TO BE PART EX'IN MY SAXO PLUS 800 CASH HIS WAY





im giving the 1000 pound mate my saxo's only worth about a grand now





Why has this gone up by £200?

And my opinion on the car - don't cos it looks chavvy and is most probably foooooked.

[Bound]

I'd keep the VTR, but if you drive the MG, like it, buy it, and am not bored/regret it in a month, then good on ya =].

Obviously, work can be carried out to a good standard, just gotta be confident they aren't a cowboy. That it's not all gonna fall to pieces etc. But yeah, i love your saxo though. :y:

[swampy]

that car looks awful!!!

why doesnt he have a current v5 to say he owns the car??

the green slip can be sent off with a form v62 to get a new log book in your name and it wont cost you a penny!!!
you would then need to send it off when it arrives back and change not just the engine size and type but also the engine number, at least thats what i had to do many years ago on my mg turbo

personly id stay away

[Saxo_Scott]

LOL are you mad.

it needs stuff doing to it

£1000 cash his way

no log book

looks chavy

boost has been turned up way to high and its prob been ragged

[Garry_T]

tbh ill get slated for this i dont think its too bad but then again i do have a soft spot for rover 200s

[Chr15]

I wonder what happened?

[SaxBuild]

So your saying if I change the engine in my car, tell my insurance about the engine change but not the DVLA then im still not insured? I think the insurance company would have a hard time not paying out as you've declared everything to them.

I also fail to see how the police can "fook" you, what happens if the letter you send to the DVLA explaining the changes and evidence gets lost in the post? This wont emerge until some weeks later.

Im also finding this "full inspection" stuff hard to believe iv never seen a copper look under the bonnet of any motor and cant find anything on it on the internet.

Regarding the T-series and boost, I thought it could take plenty I thought the gearbox was the weak point with more power?Basically if you inform the insurance company that it has a 2.0 engine in it and not the 1.8 as stated on the log books and the DVLA are not informed of the change, if you are in a car accident and the police are involved, they mark it down as a 1.8 which auto voids your insurance. The reason for this, is that the car is not what is clearly stated in the log book and so doesn't have a valid certificate for it to be a 2.0 engine.

Any modification has to have a valid certificate and deamed as being road worthy, not notifying this change to the DVLA makes the car 'Not road worthy' it's a catch 22 area I'm afraid.

Police at anytime when pulling any vehicle that the police feel is not to the standard of what the DVLA deam as 'Road Worthy' can and will be removed from the road and a full inspection done on the Vehicle.

A V5 document, will be returned to you within 14/28 days. If it is not done so within that time period, you have to contact the DVLA to find out why. It's your responsiblity to chase these things and not that of the DVLA.

If you say to the police I sent it in on Monday and they pull you on the Friday, they can ring the DVLA to confirm. Seeing as most of us send in this type of document by first class post, which means it would be on the system Wednesday/Thursday. If for what ever reason the DVLA haven't received the document, the police can remove the vehicle from the road and deam it as 'Not road worthy' untill the document can be proven of change.

[Keefo]

I quite like it.... not THAT chavvy except the Chrome Mirrors...

Im looking at getting my R25 similar to that... just done the Grill, and bought MG Straights like that has, black also.
Just after the spoiler, struts/springs, and bumpers n skirts next month wooo!
Leaving it Gold tho :-p

As for reliability... mine hasnt let me down, just dont take it past 3k rev untill its fully warmed up to help preserve that precious Head Gasket lol

[Lidders]

did he buy this in the end???