Section 59 for no reason

[Darlo-paul]

I went out tonight for half an hour to catch up with a few mates, there were a few lads I didn't know there but I thought nothing of it.
Anyway, we went around town once as you do and we got back to the car park.
The people I didn't know very well took off leaving me and a few friends there.
Anyway, copper pulls in, says there has been reports of tailgating and dangerous driving?
He looks over our insurance, licences etc and couldn't find a single thing wrong. Anyway we were given a warning and if we were seen again we'd get another warning which would lead to us loosing our vehicle's and having a fine for 150 quid.
Can I do anything about this? I was driving safely and at a lowish speed and I was behind them all.
:n:

[dj_russell]

ffs this is taking the piss are you happy now health and safety brigade is it proof enough that the police are taking the piss now??? what will it take for them to start pulling over a funeral preccession and say theyve got no insurance?

[Junaid]

:L can they actually warn you for parking up in a car park? n then threaten to take ur car away?

[Junaid]

sorry jus read the top
section 59 is were a car has been used in a dangerous way and which may affect the general public around them
they gave my m8 tht only cuz he did a burn out
im sure they cnt give u a section 59 for parking up

[dj_russell]

:L can they actually warn you for parking up in a car park? n then threaten to take ur car away?

seems they can warn you wherever they want now anyone out after a certain time in paticular are criminals everyone has to be in the house by 9pm. some of the rediculous things ive heard in my time is pulling fully bodykitted show cars over that stand out a mile and then them say they are checking if you are committing a crime as your out at a late time especially factory units your really going to do a factory unit over in a car everyones going to remember.

[dj_russell]

sorry jus read the top
section 59 is were a car has been used in a dangerous way and which may affect the general public around them
they gave my m8 tht only cuz he did a burn out
im sure they cnt give u a section 59 for parking up

i got one for not even being in the car thats a laugh lol.

[Darlo-paul]

What gets me is me and my mate were doing nothing wrong, just tagged along behind. The two in front were driving on the wrong side of the road etc they should be the ones getting warnings not us.

[Junaid]

haha u should turn around n say listen m8 i know bout section 59
i aint doing nothing tht will bring distress to the public
nor is the vechicle being driven in a dangerous way

[SamW]

I went out tonight for half an hour to catch up with a few mates, there were a few lads I didn't know there but I thought nothing of it.
Anyway, we went around town once as you do and we got back to the car park.
The people I didn't know very well took off leaving me and a few friends there.
Anyway, copper pulls in, says there has been reports of tailgating and dangerous driving?
He looks over our insurance, licences etc and couldn't find a single thing wrong. Anyway we were given a warning and if we were seen again we'd get another warning which would lead to us loosing our vehicle's and having a fine for 150 quid.
Can I do anything about this? I was driving safely and at a lowish speed and I was behind them all.
:n:

Ask Smiith, he went to court over something similar, hed been parked up for ages and a blue car had been belting around town, someone reported it and he got the jip for it even tho hed done nothing... Or something like that i beleive.

End of the day you know if you have been driving like a tit, if you have then fair enough im sure theres CCTV around darlo if need be evidence could be got from there.

If you havent been driving like a tit, then fair enough if the copper give you more chew then fight it.

Im not having a go or being the 'health and safety police' just stating the basic's

[Tom5190]

sorry jus read the top
section 59 is were a car has been used in a dangerous way and which may affect the general public around them
they gave my m8 tht only cuz he did a burn out
im sure they cnt give u a section 59 for parking up

they can, i got one i was parked, if your seen to be with anyone causing the public offence then you can also be given the 59, even if there is proof you did nothing wrong you were just there (this is wat i was told). which is why i always move if anybody comes and does daft stuff if im ever parked up.

[mikey1]

they have banned any gathering in almost every car park around where i live now and if were seen in there the 59 act comes into place and thats in town at night where there is no houses or people on the road its a piss take

[Darlo-paul]

Fair enough, two other lads I was with drove like a tit, but I didn't which is what gets me, I value my licence to much to drive like a prat.

[Junaid]

they can, i got one i was parked, if your seen to be with anyone causing the public offence then you can also be given the 59, even if there is proof you did nothing wrong you were just there (this is wat i was told). which is why i always move if anybody comes and does daft stuff if im ever parked up.


righttt tht is going to far!!!
i've read the 59 section they can not get you done for parking up
if they give you it id take them to court as they arent doing there jobs right and should read section 59 again

[dj_russell]

Ask Smiith, he went to court over something similar, hed been parked up for ages and a blue car had been belting around town, someone reported it and he got the jip for it even tho hed done nothing... Or something like that i beleive.

End of the day you know if you have been driving like a tit, if you have then fair enough im sure theres CCTV around darlo if need be evidence could be got from there.

If you havent been driving like a tit, then fair enough if the copper give you more chew then fight it.

Im not having a go or being the 'health and safety police' just stating the basic's

oh no thats fair mate if you get caught fair and square theres nothing to argue about lol.:y:

[Tom5190]

righttt tht is going to far!!!
i've read the 59 section they can not get you done for parking up
if they give you it id take them to court as they arent doing there jobs right and should read section 59 again

it depends on the situation, if your parked in a row of say 10, and 2 of the cars your parked with are being arse holes then you are alound to be given one.... however if your parked at the other end of the car park then in theory you shouldnt be able to be given one and can contest it

[dj_russell]

you dont even have to be seen by the police doing anything to get one your neighbour can ring up and say youve been driving like a wanker and they can issue one that way with no proof needed.
i had the argument with the copper that i was doing nothing wrong but they dont care and their superiors defend them aswell. on previous threads i mentioned about how some of my mates have been assaulted nothings come of it.

[Junaid]

yeee they are very cocky now adays
and will be like clear away or we will arrest you or take your car under suspecion of blah blahh etc

[SamW]

Well Its the same with anybody doing their job... If you were a police officer and you went over to a bunch of lads in saxo's, corsa's, fiestas, etc... and all you were doing was your job i.e. checking details and then they started give you jip and cheek what would you do?

I imagine youd give them a warning, and inform them you can and if you must will take further action.

Like i said im not having a go but if your a twat to them what else do you expect

[Junaid]

good point lol

[smiith]

Unless you got a bit of paper off them saying you have recieved a section 59, then you havnt

[Darlo-paul]

Does the section 59 stay on the car or the driver?

[Darlo-paul]

Unless you got a bit of paper off them saying you have recieved a section 59, then you havnt

No they said if we catch you again they'd give us a section 59 and also give us a section 59 for the last offence.
However, if they look on the cctv evidence, they'd see me behind them all, and i even got cut off by a van :n:

[SamW]

Unless you got a bit of paper off them saying you have recieved a section 59, then you havnt

he never said he had one god glen pay attention! <3

I imagine they just used it as a deterant mate make sure you dont start acting like a tool also its the car it goes on if im not mistaken...

[smiith]

Well if he hasnt been given one, after they have left, they cant come back and give you one.

Thats like in football the ref giving a penelty at the 90th minute for something that happened 5 minutes in...

They cant come back and change there mind, fact.

Only thing they can do, is if a traffic cop see's you been daft, they can stop you within 48 hours to question you about it.

If they do stop you, just agree with em and say sorry, and say you will get yourself off home, best way tbh

[Darlo-paul]

Well if he hasnt been given one, after they have left, they cant come back and give you one.

Thats like in football the ref giving a penelty at the 90th minute for something that happened 5 minutes in...

They cant come back and change there mind, fact.

Only thing they can do, is if a traffic cop see's you been daft, they can stop you within 48 hours to question you about it.

If they do stop you, just agree with em and say sorry, and say you will get yourself off home, best way tbh

But they took my name and address so can't they send me a warning or something? :n:

[smiith]

they can say they gave you a verbal warning, cant go back to that time and add a 59 onto it.

[-Dan-]

Seems you were unlucky mate, but put yourself in the shoes of the copper, how is he to know that it wasn't you doing it, and your just trying to pull a fast one on him. Chances are he's got no evidence of anything and is trying to scare you (and the lads that were driving like cocks).

[Darlo-paul]

they can say they gave you a verbal warning, cant go back to that time and add a 59 onto it.

Going to the police station tomorrow to appeal against it, Im gonna get pulled left right and centre if they see me around town now :n:

[smiith]

if you go and complain, you are just getting yourself known, they will know what person and in which car complained, better off just ignoring it, he took your name, chances are his note book will be in the bin now

[Darlo-paul]

if you go and complain, you are just getting yourself known, they will know what person and in which car complained, better off just ignoring it, he took your name, chances are his note book will be in the bin now

Well I just think we didn't deserve the treatment we got, especially as i'd just turned up a few minutes before hand.
And also we are going to tell them who it really was, because that idiot is dangerous

[smiith]

but for all they know it could have been you, they got a report of cars driving like that and obviously stopping in the carpark, think if they asked the lads who did it, they would just be like... nah its not me. They have just given you a warning just to keep you on your toes, its nothing serious dude. dont take it to heart

[Darlo-paul]

but for all they know it could have been you, they got a report of cars driving like that and obviously stopping in the carpark, think if they asked the lads who did it, they would just be like... nah its not me. They have just given you a warning just to keep you on your toes, its nothing serious dude. dont take it to heart

Ah well I guess your right, so do you think I should avoid going around town then? I do nothing wrong, I guess i was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[smiith]

no, just carry on as normal, if they stop you and start been knobs all the time, just ask for badge numbers, and say you are going to file a complaint for harassment, they will soon leave you alone

[HeathyGT]

load of toss that is! I had a policeman pull out on me I stopped (but didnt hit him) as I was doing correct speed, the car behind me didnt and ploughed into the back of me then a car into the back of him! then the cheeky twat tried give me a 59 and the other two drivers, so we all clubbed together and the accident is under investigation so lets see what happens!

[SaxBuild]

59 Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which—
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
(3) Those powers are—
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless—
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if—
(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.
(8) The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
(9) In this section—
“driving” has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52);
“motor vehicle” means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
“private dwelling house” does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.

Its a shitter..............

[bensvarups]

Police are a bunch of wa****s

[b0t13]

basically they can give u a section 59 without proof and theres jackshit u can do about it, just make sure the next time someone doing stupid shit u dont get caught near them and if u do, start kissing arse when the book comes out..

[AXracing]

Section 59 is often known as a section 59 warning as its just that they are give you as official warning for your first offence. You can appeal but why would you want to? They are letting you off with no fine and no point. Simply don't drive like a tit, hang about with people driving like a tit and don't go to unauthorised car events be it privet or public road/packing. Basically don't brake the law:y:

[AXracing]

PS they can NOT give you a section with out proof. They have to have formal written statements from someone witnessing willing to go to court who seen you brake the law or the police have to witness it for them self. I have been asked a few times by the police to make a formal statement for this very purpose. We always get people speeding out side my work and knocking off wing mirrors of other cars then driving off and the like. There was even one guy who forced a cyclest off the road and was swearing and beeping his horn, proper idiot. We actually hung the paperwork up on the wall from that one as it was a idiot in a nice new jag.

[b0t13]

i know serveral people that have had them because a car was being 'anti-social', 'driving dangerously', 'fucking about' and all they had to go on was the colour or model, no plates or statements

in the real world u get them regardless, even if there 'supposed' to do it by the book, they are wankers afterall..

yes they can contest them but tbh nobody ever does even when theyve done nothing wrong but hey thats life i suppose lol

[-Dan-]

Police are a bunch of wa****s

You need to take a long hard look in the mirror and see if you can do a job like being a policeman before you criticise.

No-one is ever happy, and it certainly isn't an easy job. Sometimes I think this forum is infested with 12 year olds.

[dj_russell]

section 59s make me laugh anyway if you read the list of things that get you one the whole of the uk should have their cars impounded in that case as everyones guilty of a breach somewhere down the line. they just target us younger lot because the olders will give them hassle back instead of just agreeing with it.

[dj_russell]

You need to take a long hard look in the mirror and see if you can do a job like being a policeman before you criticise.

No-one is ever happy, and it certainly isn't an easy job. Sometimes I think this forum is infested with 12 year olds.

id fail as a police officer id leather real criminals and wouldnt pay attention to most car offences unless they were complete wankers so id be sacked off for only being interested in serious crime as i wouldnt generate enough warnings for thinbgs i dont agree with. hence why im not in the police force.

no officers got an excuse for just doing their job , if they dont agree with what they are doing dont do it change jobs i had to when one of my old jobs ended up conning elderly out of thousands of pounds i walked straight away dont care how much the pay would of been i prefer a clear concionce.

for the police to pick on innocent people they must love doing it its simple as that otherwise they would do what i did and walk away for no amount of money. if yourbeing forced into hitting targets and you feel its wrong you dont do it so they must not have a heart at all.

[SaxBuild]

PS they can NOT give you a section with out proof. They have to have formal written statements from someone witnessing willing to go to court who seen you brake the law or the police have to witness it for them self. I have been asked a few times by the police to make a formal statement for this very purpose. We always get people speeding out side my work and knocking off wing mirrors of other cars then driving off and the like. There was even one guy who forced a cyclest off the road and was swearing and beeping his horn, proper idiot. We actually hung the paperwork up on the wall from that one as it was a idiot in a nice new jag.I don't mean to sound offensive when I say this, but can you not read correctly?

59 Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which—
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).

Where in section 1 & 2 does it say that they need evidence to issue a Section 59, no where.

It does however say 'Resonable gorunds' which means they can at any point issue a section 59 if they see fit, without evidence.

[Japman]

also agree police are wankers

i have been stoped 10 times in the last 2 months for producers,some even by the same police officer


1 section 59 for no reason at all

and 2 drug searches which are very embarrising

thinking about harrasment action now tbh

[AXracing]

I don't mean to sound offensive when I say this, but can you not read correctly?



Where in section 1 & 2 does it say that they need evidence to issue a Section 59, no where.

It does however say 'Resonable gorunds' which means they can at any point issue a section 59 if they see fit, without evidence.

You have misunderstood what reasonable grounds is. Just think about it for a second, how could any one have reasonable grounds to suspect anything with out evidence? It all boils down to a police officer only has reasonable grounds if they have evidence of some description. Evidence is anything that points at a conclusion. A statement from the general public and even police statements are all evidence that can be used in court. If there is no evidence you cant get a session 59.

[Junaid]

gd point people are getting stabbed theres more serious things going on and the police are just normally going to calls of were some1 has said oh some lads are parked up instead of HELP some1 is being stabbed
i rang the police a month back on 999 n had to wait 10 mins
and they go they was busy? busy doing what going to car parks warning people for parking up?

[Liam_LFC_VTR]

Whoever says "Police are Wankers" are complete and utters pricks......

Just wait until you are in a position where you desperately need help......you going to ring the police? Of course you aren't, because they're "wankers"...........

[SaxBuild]

You have misunderstood what reasonable grounds is. Just think about it for a second, how could any one have reasonable grounds to suspect anything with out evidence? It all boils down to a police officer only has reasonable grounds if they have evidence of some description. Evidence is anything that points at a conclusion. A statement from the general public and even police statements are all evidence that can be used in court. If there is no evidence you cant get a session 59.And what if its a neighbour you don't get on with, or someone you have fallen out with. The police could easily issue a section 59, just on the say so of Joe Bloggs and no evidence is needed as a section 59 is issued on the spot, unless you decide to contest it and this is at the point where it reachs court.

[Jimmy-Boy]

i got mine the other week, accelerating to 30 to fast.. bit of a joke but theirs nothing you can do!!

[SaxBuild]

i got mine the other week, accelerating to 30 to fast.. bit of a joke but theirs nothing you can do!!That you can fight, as there is no legal requirement that you have to take it steady to hit 30 unless it is done in a reckless manner.

How do they think people drive when comming to end of a dual carrige way and then onto a round about that has a 70mph limit on it, you have to accelarate fast so as not to get hit by the idiots that arn't watching where they are going.

[blackie_2k5]

Unless you got a bit of paper off them saying you have recieved a section 59, then you havnt

totally wrong, you dont get any paper or document etc saying you have 1, it goes on the computer and lasts 6 months, second time you get your car impounded and have to pay to get it back, usually 100-120 plus around 11 per day untill 2weeeks have passed at this point its then squashed or sold, 3rd time its either squashed or sold, they dont need physical proof to issue you 1 and as said its a warning if your get another 1 within 6 months its then your car seized another its crushed
alsop the section 59 is on you as a pesron and is validate of any vehicle found being used at the time, eg car bike van quad etc etc etc,

[blackie_2k5]

basically the section 59 is a license to print money for both the police and bodyline in my area diff areas may be dif recoverers, the police use THEIR OWN DISCRETION and their word is golden in court, bad driving is being seriousley clamped down on, hence the section 59 scheme

[fossie]

Mate if its Darlo town centre its littered with CCTV, just appeal if needs be...
Also im sure you are meant to get a copy of the warning also.... did you get one or jsut get a gypsies warning

[fossie]

gd point people are getting stabbed theres more serious things going on and the police are just normally going to calls of were some1 has said oh some lads are parked up instead of HELP some1 is being stabbed
i rang the police a month back on 999 n had to wait 10 mins
and they go they was busy? busy doing what going to car parks warning people for parking up?


Might have been busy tbh.... try doing the job and see the amount of shit we have to deal with

[blackie_2k5]

you get 1 and get cautioned on the spot with the warning, no paper etc as said

[fossie]

Ours our in trilicate forms...... sure as hell one gets given to the driver.....
Personally cant be arsed, would rather wipe me arse on them..... ijoke

[blackie_2k5]

well ive had 4 mate and sure as hell aint had a single piece of documentation for any of it, only papers ive had have been from bodyline- the receipt for my car back, and no before ppl start wingeing i dont drive like a tit, ive jus been the unlucky victim of pricks who do and someone that took the keys to my bike 1 day and got seen, which is why its pure bollocks tbf

[blackie_2k5]

in fact i lie i got a receipt of section 59 from the cop wife the first time my car was impounded but that was to say id signed my keys over

[fossie]

Sure as hell you have to have some sort of paperwork.................. ill double check 2morra

[blackie_2k5]

well first section 59 i got i didnt even know i had untill i got the second 1, a mate pinched my bike keys and took off round the estate on it without helmet and got seen, then 5 month later id pulled over onto a very large path( like 20ft wide at least) to put some oil in my car as it had a leak when one of gateshead finest pulled over to impound my car for the second 59 as someone with a similar cxar had been seen raking it allover and i was getting blame, she explained what id got the first 1 for and i didn have a clue

[lukeyyyyyyy21]

i once had cops come to my house and search my car outside it. had to go the local police staion when i got home from college and the pc gave me a massive shouting at saying i had reports of tailgating a car and didn't have my lights on a country road at night. i basically said prove it. for the record i didn't do. i had a side light out and it was an old driver doing 35mph in a 60, and i stayed behind for one corner. they kept indicating right so i thought right i'll pass them then got a massive flash attack....police will do everything in their power to get young drivers off the road if there's a way around the system you're sure to get the other end of it if you're driving a done up saxo at night around a town 'boy racer' sucks but that is life.

[Darlo-paul]

So can you actually get points from section 59's?

[fossie]

So can you actually get points from section 59's?

Nah just some hefty fines matey i believe

[Darlo-paul]

Nah just some hefty fines matey i believe

Ah okay, can I still appeal if it was only a warning? :y:

[fossie]

Yes matey, or you can just ring up, pop into your local nick and see if you have ACTUALLY had a warning....

[Darlo-paul]

Yes matey, or you can just ring up, pop into your local nick and see if you have ACTUALLY had a warning....

Alright what process do I have to go through to appeal against it? And if there is actual evidence of me doing something wrong, does that mean the warning will turn into an actual section 59.

[dj_russell]

Whoever says "Police are Wankers" are complete and utters pricks......

Just wait until you are in a position where you desperately need help......you going to ring the police? Of course you aren't, because they're "wankers"...........

come off it, if my ride got done in id ring the police as a LAST resort if i cant sort it myself perhaps the police are different over in ireland or something but over here you try calling one out to an incident id look at my cctv and see if i know them 1st then sort it myself if not ill ring the police who will do nothing anyway but its worth a try.

i burn the cds for department stores all over the uk for their cctv most of the time they dont even bother reporting their thefts to the police they sort it with their own security guards because they dont do fuckall anyway, and the theifs back within a few days.

do the people that like the police just sit in full time or something and do fuckall?

[dj_russell]

Alright what process do I have to go through to appeal against it? And if there is actual evidence of me doing something wrong, does that mean the warning will turn into an actual section 59.

you wont win mate, theyll all cover for each other and itll cost you a fortune to challenge them. i couldnt be arsed taking it to court nomore on my own against them they are corrupt aswell and allow burglars and pedophiles to walk free, ive lost once myself challenging the police who gotr me with a mobile speedtrap gun at 10pm at night in the dark. they got every detail wrong that night on the car and driver but they didnt care, im thinking of joining that guys soliciter membership thing where if you get done for anything it costs you nothing because you pay monthly anyway wheather youve done anything or not.

[blackie_2k5]

you wont win mate, theyll all cover for each other and itll cost you a fortune to challenge them. i couldnt be arsed taking it to court nomore on my own against them they are corrupt aswell and allow burglars and pedophiles to walk free, ive lost once myself challenging the police who gotr me with a mobile speedtrap gun at 10pm at night in the dark. they got every detail wrong that night on the car and driver but they didnt care, im thinking of joining that guys soliciter membership thing where if you get done for anything it costs you nothing because you pay monthly anyway wheather youve done anything or not.

+ 1000000000000000000 mate maybe all the ppl who love them live in a nice quiet urban area with 2 policeman who are also the local butcher and blacksmith but round my way its all for 1, my mate got kicked to fuck off a pc for no reason other then he wanted him to grass someone up and he said no, and a pcso was witness, just happened to get temporary blindness that 1-2 mins, take from that what you will but see why theres so many board signs and posters about policing pledge etc.....simpley becaue the public have no time or faith in the police force, priorities are all wrong

[Liam_LFC_VTR]

do the people that like the police just sit in full time or something and do fuckall?

You sound very narrow minded.

Why do I like the police? Maybe because they helped save my life...........

[dj_russell]

+ 1000000000000000000 mate maybe all the ppl who love them live in a nice quiet urban area with 2 policeman who are also the local butcher and blacksmith but round my way its all for 1, my mate got kicked to fuck off a pc for no reason other then he wanted him to grass someone up and he said no, and a pcso was witness, just happened to get temporary blindness that 1-2 mins, take from that what you will but see why theres so many board signs and posters about policing pledge etc.....simpley becaue the public have no time or faith in the police force, priorities are all wrong

and they say crimes down its only down because noone reports it lol.

[dj_russell]

You sound very narrow minded.

Why do I like the police? Maybe because they helped save my life...........

oh no i get that from your point of view like ive explained before you had a horrific accident that no dought changed your life around. nobody knows what the future holds and one day my oppinions might change :y:

[Darlo-paul]

Well i'll tell you the story and see if its worth reporting.
A mate of mine asked me to come out so I did, I got to the car park, pulled up next to my mate. Anyway, he was going with a few other lads I don't know around town for a lap, I thought ok fair enough. I drive pretty slow, so I was behind them all, anyway me and my mate just stuck to the speed limit and droveas you do. But the other lads we were with were swerving driving on paths being real dicks. Anyway, me and my mate pulled back up into the car park and the police came in and bollocked us. We have the number plates of the people dicking around.

[Liam_LFC_VTR]

oh no i get that from your point of view like ive explained before you had a horrific accident that no dought changed your life around. nobody knows what the future holds and one day my oppinions might change :y:

Yeah it just pisses me off when people say fuck the police, when really they have absolutely no idea what they have to do in their job...........

[Japman]

Whoever says "Police are Wankers" are complete and utters pricks......

Just wait until you are in a position where you desperately need help......you going to ring the police? Of course you aren't, because they're "wankers"...........


fuck up ,the pigs are wankers

when you want them they are nowhere to be seen,when they want you they are on your arse

fact

[AXracing]

Alright what process do I have to go through to appeal against it? And if there is actual evidence of me doing something wrong, does that mean the warning will turn into an actual section 59.

If you have not got the Paperwork you have not got a section 59. If you have got one it tells you all about it on it. If you have accepted got a section 59 you have accepted it and its to late to appeal. Its a form of litigation to prevent any further action being taken against you.