View Full Version : alloys? how big?
Eldridge
14th August 2009, 23:48
what size alloys should i go for on my 1.1
its currently on 13" steillies
would 14" or 15" look silly?
Sparco_Tom
15th August 2009, 09:13
15's would be a good size
Eldridge
15th August 2009, 09:55
they fit fine and dont rub n things like that?
sliderz
15th August 2009, 10:14
15 on a 1.1 will be ok any more than that and you need to do arch mods witch you can not really do as there is no kit to hide it .... just get the write ofset
Eldridge
15th August 2009, 10:35
what that mean?
3cott
15th August 2009, 10:44
15's imo...
Sparco_Tom
15th August 2009, 11:01
15 and 14's will sometimes require you to trim the lip off inside the rear arches
sliderz
15th August 2009, 11:22
What is offset?
In technical terms offset is defined as the distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. Now that doesn't mean an awful lot to most people and neither does it concern 99% of saxo owners.
To put it in simple terms that means something to most saxo owners we will define it simply as "how far the wheel sticks out from the hub" Now that is out the way lets understand what we mean by that. Offset is listed as ET then two digits i.e. ET16 this simply means that the wheel will bolt to the hub 16mm away from the wheel centreline.
The important bit, we as saxo owners are looking for offset of ET15-18, anything in that range should fit the saxo. By having a lower ET the wheel will sit further out from the car and help to minimise rubbing on full lock when having large wheels fitted.
just copyed that of here but any how there ya go
sliderz
15th August 2009, 11:25
Offset
Offset (ET) Explained:
This is important if you are thinking of purchasing aftermarket alloy wheels. The offset is the distance in mm between the centre line of the wheel rim, and the line through the fixing (hub) face. You can have positive (+), negative (-) or neither (0). The first important reason offset is so important is that it is ultimately responsible for the position of the wheel under the wheel arch. Get it wrong and your wheels can scrub against the bodywork, suspension or at worst not turn at all! Secondly it determines how the suspension and self-centering steering behave. The most obvious problem that will occur if you get it wrong is that the steering will either become so heavy that you can't turn the steering wheel, or so light that you need to spend all your time keeping it in a straight line.
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/sliderzk1/ns-offsetexplained.jpg
Example:
A Citroen Saxo and a Ford Fiesta have the same stud pattern, so in theory a Fiesta wheel will fit a Saxo wheel and vice versa right? Wrong. Although both cars have a positive offset the Saxo’s is very low at around ET15 and the Fiesta’s is higher at around ET38. This means that the hub mounting face on the Saxo’s wheel is closer to the centerline of the wheel and the Fiesta’s is closer to the outside of the wheel (roadside).
In a nutshell you need an offset as close to the vehicles original wheel offset as possible.
In the above diagram, the black centre line of the wheel is equal to an offset of 0. This means that if the hub is positioned directly in the centre of the wheel, the offset is 0. Every other offset is then measured from this line. If the hub position moves toward the car or the 'hub side' according to the diagram i.e where the green line is, the offset will be negative.(This is not common) However if the hub moves in the direction of the outer rim or the road side according to the diagram i.e where the red line is, the offset will be positive. It is far more likeley that the offset will be positive and for most road cars between 15 and 50.
So how do I know what my Wheels Offset is?
Below is an diagram of the back of an alloy wheel. Enlarged is the information that you need to find on the wheel. You will notice that this one has marked "7J x 17 H2 ET35". The "7J x 17" part of that is the size of the wheel rim - in this case it has a depth of 7 inches and a diameter of 17 inches. The "J" represents the shape of the tyre bead profile (you don’t need to worry about this). The "H2" means that this wheel rim is designed to take "H" speed-rated tyres. The "ET35" figure below it the information we are after. This shows that these wheels have a positive offset of 35mm. In other words, the hub mounting face is 35mm from the centre line of the wheel towards the roadside. This information is fairly easy to read but on many aftermarket wheels, they don't want to ruin the style of the outside of the wheel so it's likely to be found inside the rim or at the back, or on one of the inner mounting surfaces.
that might be helpfull
Claireeyy
15th August 2009, 11:26
15s i would say
Lloydie
15th August 2009, 12:36
15's, i had 15's on my 1.1
Eldridge
15th August 2009, 14:21
ok thanks!! saw some 13"s that were resonable but thot it was abit like replacing shit with mud!
MikeYost
15th August 2009, 14:34
i got 15s on my 1.1, slight rubbin at the back when i got a lot of shit in ther..
Eldridge
15th August 2009, 16:32
you think it would b worth spraying the stealies black till i can get some alloys?
sykes2009
15th August 2009, 17:41
me personaly, i have a 1L i no other pepole wont recomend it but i have 15's on and truthfully i hate them they feel to big for the car, i am droping down to some deep dish 13" the car jsut seems to strugel with them
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION
edit- plus it will also let me lower it better
Eldridge
15th August 2009, 17:54
i was thinking may b 14"s
edindude
15th August 2009, 21:35
if you have 14s will it look like a monster truck if not dropped
steviee90
15th August 2009, 21:45
if you have 14s will it look like a monster truck if not dropped
no it wont lol would still look fine, 15"s are best imo fitment should be 195/45/15 iirc for a saxo
AlexB
15th August 2009, 22:04
the diameter isnt the issue on a flat arch model its width
much over a 175 tyre will rub (so around 5.5j or 6j wheels) if you run a 195 itll catch on the arch behind the trim (as i round with my old 1.1)
i trimmed the arch out with an angle grinder behind the strip to give room but it still rubbed (i had a 16x7j wheel though lol!!)
i know a few guys with flat arches and all seem to have rubbing as soon as 195s are fitted
Eldridge
16th August 2009, 10:01
if you have 14s will it look like a monster truck if not dropped
it comes with 13"s as standard so i doubt that
Ashleyp
16th August 2009, 10:18
phug 106gti raptor wheels, 14" = win
Eldridge
16th August 2009, 10:32
so 14"s dont look 2 bad?
GoochyBoy
16th August 2009, 10:37
What About THESE (http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250640) 14"
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