Focus or Saxo ?

[Mallyauto86]

Well i own a Ford Focus 2l Zetec Ghia ZX5 its 100 % Standard payed 1300 for it few months ago.

Insurance is 2600 pounds on it with flux 3rd Party.

I do Like this car drives well etc.

But i've bin thinking about getting rid of it for a saxo.

But looking on the net ive seen a few really nice modded focus's.

So What do you think Keep the Foci and Mod it ST170 Engine with maybe turbo conversion ? Lowering Etc etc

Or Buy a Furio and Either K20 it or VTS turbo it ?

It would be project spaced out over a few years but tbh im stuck for choice lol

[McGuire86]

why dont you just get a vts ?

[jimbo06]

i wouldnt go with one of them focus' there uber crap, and putting a k20a into a saxo is going to cost far far far too much money & time.

I would just look to buy a vts and spend the moeny on a high spec NA build with a decent suspension and brake upgrage mate

[Claireeyy]

why not just get a vts, im sure insurance wouldnt be much more and would use less fuel. focus's seem to be gass guzzlers

[ashie695]

just save the hassle and get a vts :y:

[Mallyauto86]

Guys im 17 i can keep dreaming for a VTS and BTW i already own the focus

[pjm300]

errrr so you'll get a saxo and then how do you insure it as a turbo'd vts?

[pjm300]

oh i remember, it will still be insured as a furio :) how could i forget :)

[Mallyauto86]

oh i remember, it will still be insured as a furio :) how could i forget :)

No i would wait to do the swap before you all thinking im a retard that would not insure mods :hug:

I said it would be project over few years id leave the swap till last but still buy build engine but not fit it untill i could afford insurance

[AJ_SAXO]

Well i own a Ford Focus 2l Zetec Ghia ZX5 its 100 % Standard payed 1300 for it few months ago.

Insurance is 2600 pounds on it with flux 3rd Party.

I do Like this car drives well etc.

But i've bin thinking about getting rid of it for a saxo.

But looking on the net ive seen a few really nice modded focus's.

So What do you think Keep the Foci and Mod it ST170 Engine with maybe turbo conversion ? Lowering Etc etc

Or Buy a Furio and Either K20 it or VTS turbo it ?

It would be project spaced out over a few years but tbh im stuck for choice lol

you pay 2600 for insurance?? fuk that!!:panic:

[Mallyauto86]

you pay 2600 for insurance?? fuk that!!:panic:

Exactly . . . .

[ukgaz]

Zetec turbo way forward!

[Mallyauto86]

Zetec turbo way forward!

Was thinking of getting an ST170 Duratec but yeah was thinking that too but man it eats petrol

[ukgaz]

Is it a black top zetec-e lump you got in it?

[Mallyauto86]

Is it a black top zetec-e lump you got in it?

yup it is indeed mate

[saxo_asa]

Was thinking of getting an ST170 Duratec but yeah was thinking that too but man it eats petrol

If youre worried about petrol why are you asking about turbo'ing this and putting a bigger engine in that?

[Mallyauto86]

If youre worried about petrol why are you asking about turbo'ing this and putting a bigger engine in that?

LOOOL future project mate as i said ;)

[ukgaz]

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/articles/zetecturbo/

[Mallyauto86]

decided to keep the focus getting some rims for it hopfully this month then coilys next month

[Toilet_Hugger]

Get a saxo ;) u will save a fortune on insurance :y:

[Mallyauto86]

not really only 200 or 300 quid less . . .
plus cant seem to get rid of the damn thing

[daivtr]

dont get rid off the the focus for a saxo mate ull seriously regret it

[kerran]

I have a ford focus centennial. same as a st170 except it has a 2.0 Zetec instead of duratec same sus, brakes etc. the Zetec is a major letdown takes so much to wind up although the handling of the focus is pretty good.

[Ashleyp]

buy a vts? instead of buying a furio to then make a vts, which incidently cost more to insure, and a lot to do

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

How the fuck are you going to afford to turbo & "s" a furio or turbo a focus, if you are worrying about insurance costs?

Dreaming is an under exaggeration.

You're high as a kite mate

[Mallyauto86]

yeh its booring under 3000rpm then goes woooooooooooo to 5000 revs then goes flat.
think a decat would fix that tho. and yeh keran you got the same block as me i should think tho mine is a ghia and its a zx5 so grandad car really lmao but was a bargain so cant argue. think i'm gna find a RS like body kit without the big arches. fit rims like the ST170 Morettes and coilovers.

Performance first mod would be strait throu exhaust going to get one custom made. looking at getting a custom turbo mani too wont turbo it any time soon tho think im too young for that power just yet lol

oh and high as a kite ? nah i can afford the insurance ust dont like paying it lol.
and no im not stupid im thinking future not right now wouldnt be a year or 2 before i fitted anything just buy the parts and fit them when ive got everything . .

[kerran]

the 2.0 focus is a great car just looks great as a 2dr and they all handle great but i wouldnt muck around with them. thats where a saxo would be much more rewarding and fun.

[Mallyauto86]

the 2.0 focus is a great car just looks great as a 2dr and they all handle great but i wouldnt muck around with them. thats where a saxo would be much more rewarding and fun.

dunno a 2l zetec turbo is way less comun than a saxo and can look and perform just as good

[Liam_LFC_VTR]

You will not get insured if you turbo any of them cars.

[kerran]

the RS is a turbo duratec right? if that is the case it will me a mission to turbo a zetec. also im my a opinion dont do it if its a 4dr but i guess you are right if your after something different

[Mallyauto86]

You will not get insured if you turbo any of them cars.

i know hense why i wont be doing it any time soon . .

do you guys eaven read seriously think i said bout 4 times i wouldnt be doing it any time soon its idea's projects future plans all high in the sky but nothing wrong with finding out a bit of information about the beast before you do it.

and nah Zetec's can take turbo's on stock internals from what i read on low psi. but would only set back bout 600 quid for an st170 block anyway so yeh but defanatly after somthing diffrent want to stand out from the crowd if yo uget me

[kerran]

fair enough. that doesnt sound to expensive - is that fitted though?

[Mallyauto86]

no thats the lump but its a strait fit and i can fit it my self with a mate he has all the kit so that wouldnt cost me anything

[Liam_LFC_VTR]

Youre going to do this in the future?

Soooooo why a Furio? Insurance wont be as much for you in a year or two.

Easier just to get a vts imo.

[kerran]

sweet would be sweet to have an underestimated saxo though. all the best with whatever you choose

[Mallyauto86]

Youre going to do this in the future?

Soooooo why a Furio? Insurance wont be as much for you in a year or two.

Easier just to get a vts imo.

cheaper insurance till i get the chance to do it + i have a thing for swapping never done one my self only helped people do it just a thing i have i guess just like the idea of doing the work your self.

and yeh i know insurance wont be as much by then tbh i think if i could get rid of this focus id have a furio or somthing simlar. . but yeh underestimated saxo's are cool but imagin and underestimated focus your expecting that eaven les tbh lmfao

[Toilet_Hugger]

not really only 200 or 300 quid less . . .
plus cant seem to get rid of the damn thing

i think it will :oops: my insurance is only 900

[Mallyauto86]

well i can tell you it will unless i renew my insurance and loose my no claims iom on my own policy too quoted 1980 with flux on a furio

[welshy23]

you really dont seem like you have thought this through...

[Mallyauto86]

you'd be suprised actualy but go on tell me what your point is

[Danr]

Why turbo an st170 lump when a focus rs lump fits straight in????

[Mallyauto86]

Why turbo an st170 lump when a focus rs lump fits straight in????

cheaper . . . rs lump is like 2000 with gearbox etc and virtualy impossible to find

[Mallyauto86]

just bin offerd 900 quid for focus what you guys think ?

[welshy23]

you'd be suprised actualy but go on tell me what your point is

well u just seem to be jumping the gun from a standard to a full on modded car! how old are you? 18ish? how would u ever get insured on a turbo'd anything?

[Mallyauto86]

well u just seem to be jumping the gun from a standard to a full on modded car! how old are you? 18ish? how would u ever get insured on a turbo'd anything?

i wont as i said read the post you will see its a future planned project so i dont see your point

[Danr]

cheaper . . . rs lump is like 2000 with gearbox etc and virtualy impossible to find

£2000 will be less than a decent turbo conversion.

[welshy23]

i wont as i said read the post you will see its a future planned project so i dont see your point

My point is why are u going so far into the future with this whole turbo thing. yeh you might be excited but its like asking us if you should build the garage three storys to fit all your saxo VTS turbos and then what heating system you should use in your underground swimming pool when u get your mansion lol. im not hating :y: fair play, just wondering why u asking this now when its literallyy so long away when the time come u woulda forgotten this thread...

[Mallyauto86]

My point is why are u going so far into the future with this whole turbo thing. yeh you might be excited but its like asking us if you should build the garage three storys to fit all your saxo VTS turbos and then what heating system you should use in your underground swimming pool when u get your mansion lol. im not hating :y: fair play, just wondering why u asking this now when its literallyy so long away when the time come u woulda forgotten this thread...

i plan on doing it over a few years to make it fit in with the finances. a bit here a bit there each month makes me be able to have quality stuff for the car and still be able to go out without having to scratt around for cash at the end of the month.
this month alloys 300 quid . . .
next month cooilys 350 quid . . .
month after custom exhaust . . .

just makes it easier ok takes longer but doesnt the saying go patience is a virtue

[Andy_K]

I personally wouldn't bother with an st170 lump. They aren't that great and are harder to tune. Either stick with the zetec and turbo it (not too expensive to do), or they also respond well to throttle bodies.

Could also try the newer shape st turbo lump in there for something a bit different.

[hellovts]

sounds like your trying to do it all too quick too young, i was in the same boat as you when i was 18 with my vts, did everything too fast, now got a fiesta ST and getting ironically a focus RS mk1 in few months its coming closer and closer

if you can afford 2k on insurance, just wait a while and save save youl be able to insure + buy + run a proper car such as a focus RS, thats what i did anyway.. paid insurance in one go and saved saved like mad.. :)

hope this helps, whatever you do, dont spunk alot £££ on your current focus or if u get a saxo trust me :)

[hellovts]

youd be a fool to do anything to ur focus or any kind of saxo but once again this is a saxo site and my opininon is irrevelant :)

[Jazz]

Focus RS engine in the long term, as DanR said. Or you might actually start putting some aside for a quicker car in the future anyway. If you're thinking of engine transplants and conversions etc, we're most likely talking thousands to get everything done properly, theres no getting away from that.

[UltraSBM]

LOL if you want to have a Saxo over a Focus, then we'll do a swap ;) hehe.
I'm looking at getting rid of my French Tin Can for a nice Focus.
Let's just say...Ford's have better build quality BY FAR, and I'd MUCH rather be in a Focus in a crash, as opposed to the Saxo. You're pretty much guaranteed to lose your legs in these Piece of Shit cars :(
Fun to drive - yes...but then so is any cheap car which isn't made properly as it's the flaws that make it exciting, or any car that IS made properly eg Lambo LP640 :P
I don't care what anyone says, you have FAR more choice for top quality after-market equipment for a Focus than you can for a Saxo. They're aimed at different markets.
Ever seen a Saxo in WRC...?

[Mallyauto86]

LOL if you want to have a Saxo over a Focus, then we'll do a swap ;) hehe.
I'm looking at getting rid of my French Tin Can for a nice Focus.
Let's just say...Ford's have better build quality BY FAR, and I'd MUCH rather be in a Focus in a crash, as opposed to the Saxo. You're pretty much guaranteed to lose your legs in these Piece of Shit cars :(
Fun to drive - yes...but then so is any cheap car which isn't made properly as it's the flaws that make it exciting, or any car that IS made properly eg Lambo LP640 :P
I don't care what anyone says, you have FAR more choice for top quality after-market equipment for a Focus than you can for a Saxo. They're aimed at different markets.
Ever seen a Saxo in WRC...?

there was the s2000 saxo or somthing wich ran ok but yeh get what you mean. still prolly end up at least geting some rims for it tho and maybe the coilys and stainless exhaust.

and yeh i know what you mean my dream car is a Nissan Skyline R32 GTR or a 280sx somthing like that so wont be before 21 i get my hands on one of them and dont fancy driving a bog standard focus till then but i do see your points bout all this.

as for lumps yeh ive heard bout the s170 being a bit of a eff to tune n stuff i was actualy more looking to keeping the zetec and going turbo but tbh havnt looked at prices or anything if i did it i would want to do it properly ofcorse.

and thanks for the offer for the swap if you had a furio you could have it. id rather not drive a flat arch tbh tho

[JamesR]

Get the Saxo, will be much quicker.

But dont forget that its French ;)