Alarm Problem!

[Morgiee]

hi i bought this alarm from my shop (maplin):


http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=219353

and the wiring diagram is hard to understand. here is the installation manual:

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/morgiee_2009/caralarmmanual.jpg

my saxo doesn't have central locking or electric windows so there is no need for the door switches. So i improvised and thought if i use the eye sensors for the door, that will trigger the alarm from breakins, so for the two door switches, attatch one to the bonnet, so that when forced openthe alarm is triggered and the same for the boot, i understand the boot will need a bit of mod work for the switch to be fitted in but thats no issue, my issue is how am i going to wire the two switches to the control unit?

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/morgiee_2009/caralarmmanualedit.jpg

The door switches im using for this is labled in thr red and blue box i highlighted. However if you look closely to the bottom of the manual which i have marked in red it shows you how to wire it for a boot however the switch shown for this is not provided in the box, hense no need for the relay and also the use for one of the door switches. My question to you is on the switch diagram one switch needs to be put to the pos so ideally the bonnet one as it is closest to the fuse box and the boot will have to be earthed? however this makes no sense.

if i have to etend the cables thats not an issue i can do that but i need someone on here who is a wiz at car electrics to help me please, only post if your sure what needs doing as i cant afort to blow the equipment if its done wrong. The magority of the system is in place its just the case of wiring it now

Thanks guys

[MR_TOAD]

hi i bought this alarm from my shop (maplin):


http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=219353

and the wiring diagram is hard to understand. here is the installation manual:

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/morgiee_2009/caralarmmanual.jpg

my saxo doesn't have central locking or electric windows so there is no need for the door switches. So i improvised and thought if i use the eye sensors for the door, that will trigger the alarm from breakins, so for the two door switches, attatch one to the bonnet, so that when forced openthe alarm is triggered and the same for the boot, i understand the boot will need a bit of mod work for the switch to be fitted in but thats no issue, my issue is how am i going to wire the two switches to the control unit?

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/morgiee_2009/caralarmmanualedit.jpg

The door switches im using for this is labled in thr red and blue box i highlighted. However if you look closely to the bottom of the manual which i have marked in red it shows you how to wire it for a boot however the switch shown for this is not provided in the box, hense no need for the relay and also the use for one of the door switches. My question to you is on the switch diagram one switch needs to be put to the pos so ideally the bonnet one as it is closest to the fuse box and the boot will have to be earthed? however this makes no sense.

if i have to etend the cables thats not an issue i can do that but i need someone on here who is a wiz at car electrics to help me please, only post if your sure what needs doing as i cant afort to blow the equipment if its done wrong. The magority of the system is in place its just the case of wiring it now

Thanks guys

Ok simpleze ( well easy if you get a good alarm )

Wire Door to brown wire as per diagram forget relay for boot that is for electronic boot release so dont use purple wire
take a wire from bonnet and on from boot and using diodes split alarm door wire into 3 and connect via diodes so they dont back feed
Regards Ian
:y:

[reevesy_vtr]

no cdl and no electric windows
http://www.fruit-emu.com/forums/vbtube/upload/thumb/84537622.jpg

[MR_TOAD]

no cdl and no electric windows
http://www.fruit-emu.com/forums/vbtube/upload/thumb/84537622.jpg

Compare the alarmz com simpleze :afro:

[Morgiee]

yes thats right no electric windows and central locking its the basic saxo. could you draw me up a diagram please so i know what im doing

Thanks

[reevesy_vtr]

you have the diagram in the alarm just follow that. live to live on car indicators to indicators on car ect. Make shore youy test the wires befor as you could cause some damage if you get it wrong.

[Morgiee]

i know there is a diagram but im doing it abit differant to the diagram, hense needing help, cos instread of using the pins on the door im using one for the boot and one for the bonnet, but one pin needs earthing and one connected to the power sorse or 12v, im fairly good at electrics but some thing baffle me a bit. also while on the subject what does the anti hijack do and where does it go? also it has a senser unit that says it has to be closely attatched to the car, should i just pull back the carpeting on the passangers footwell and attatch to the chassis?

[Morgiee]

refering to my alarm problem thread i neeed two switches wiring one from the bonnet and one for the boot, however it referrs from the installation instructions (also on thread) that one switch needs to go to a 12v sorse from the fixing bolts and the other switch needs earthing. I think ive cracked the problem but need your experties to confirm please.

Here is my layout plan of what i think is right:

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss293/morgiee_2009/alarmswitchsetup.jpg


And this is an explination of the diagram:

bonnet switch:

ring terminal from switch to a 12v sorse if possible the fuse box, bottom of switch to the designated white cable to the acu. However the cable may need extending due to location so by wiring bell wire should this be ok?

Boot Switch:

ring terminal from bolts of switch to the floor of the boot as an earthing, bottom of switch to the designated brown cable, again cable may need extending due to length of origional cable and location?

The principle of the switch for how it was ment to be wired up on the installation sheets is still the same only in a differant location to where they should be, the driver and passanger door

Is this ok if so please confirm back as soon as possible i would apprishiate it and if not how should i wire it

[Morgiee]

anyone?

[reevesy_vtr]

Mate i am sorry but is why people should not try to fit there own alarms as if you wire the switch up as in you diagram you are going to have Spark city. Forget the white wire. Cut it out of the loom. All you need is Like ian said to do use the brown wire and dioad it so when you open the bonnet the boot lights and the inside light wont come on.

[MR_TOAD]

Mate i am sorry but is why people should not try to fit there own alarms as if you wire the switch up as in you diagram you are going to have Spark city. Forget the white wire. Cut it out of the loom. All you need is Like ian said to do use the brown wire and dioad it so when you open the bonnet the boot lights and the inside light wont come on.

As my good friend says and you have PM'd me but i cannot help you anymore
as if i do i think you this will be misinterpreted and you will have big problems and i cannot have that on my mind
Please do not do this by your self go to an alarm fitter

Ian

[jonathon5]

You would have been better off in buying a 2 wire alarm that works on shock sensor & voltage drop.

[davidandrews5343]

instead of useing a boot switch just splice into the boot light, as that goes live when u open the boot. Ive fitted my own clifford and never had any issues with it

[MR_TOAD]

instead of useing a bot switch just splice into the boot light, as that goes live when u open the boot. Ive fitted my own clifford and never had any issues with it

No my friend it goes to earth when opened :fcuk:

Ian

[davidandrews5343]

No my friend it goes to earth when opened :fcuk:

Ian

my bad, my alarm can be triggerd by either, got it the wrong way around when doing my doors and set the alarm off with the door shut

[jonathon5]

Morgiee after reading your other posts about wiring up some speakers I am seriously worried about your electrical ability. If I was you I would pay somebody before you blow stuff up.

[Morgiee]

i dont like the negative comments, im learning still and hopefully getting better at it, thinking of going on an electricans course funny enough, its a learning curve and i was only asking for help and ideas of how to correct faults.

TBH i have no intention of doing anything that will "blow up stuff" im just doing everyday basic car wiring e.g speakers and possibily alarm.

the reason for posting about the alarm is because all the switches, siren, ultrasonic sensor are all in place its just the matter of wiring it all up, but before doing so i did the cleverest thing and asked someone that what i was going to do was ok to do and if not what i could do about it.

the only change to the current alarm diagram is that i wasnt going to put the door switches on the drive and passanger doors as i dont have central locking and electric windows so theres no need for them, so i improvised and put one on the boot door and one on the bonnet door so that the alarm will go of on forsed entry, my only question was how would i still wire it and asked a couple of questions to answer some of my own thoughts.

but thanks guys anyway..... :(

[reevesy_vtr]

the only change to the current alarm diagram is that i wasnt going to put the door switches on the drive and passanger doors as i dont have central locking and electric windows so theres no need for them :(

The door switches on the drivers and passangers doors has nothing to do with the car not having cdl or lecy windows. the pin switches are what make the light come on inside the car. if you dont connect the alarm to them then if the car is broken into the alarm wont go off. Like mr toad said you can use the neg triggered door wire and with dioads connect the doors bonnet and boot to this and not have any back feebs.

[Morgiee]

so i can still use the switch pins but wire it with the diodes like you said/

cool i can do that, a guy on here is goig to look at it for me, cheers mate