Downloading

[Chico999]

Not going to go into great detail but has anyone been fined for downloading music recently?

Im not sure if its a scam or if its serious...

[Sparco_Tom]

well you can get fined if you download it illegally, how could that be a scam?

[Chico999]

The thing is, its an album i have never downloaded before, tbh i hate the band.

Because apparently its been happening a lot

Companies putting out fines, seeing who will pay them, then doing it again.

[Sparco_Tom]

where are you downloading from, what album is it?

[Bound]

Davenport Lyons?

[Chico999]

Bit torrent

Scooter, jumping all over the world - Never heard it in my life.

I 100% didn't download it

[smittytom]

You would have a letter from your ISP at the least,
Also you would get a warning first, (I think)
Who does it say the fine is from?

[Chico999]

Davenport Lyons?

...What?

[Chico999]

You would have a letter from your ISP at the least,
Also you would get a warning first, (I think)
Who does it say the fine is from?
Digiprotect

ACS:Law

I have received no letter from my ISP

[stevie_m]

yeah there seems to be alot of them going around... I think i will be quieting down for a while

[smittytom]

Tbh i think the fines would come from the BPI,
After googleing there are a company out there called ACS:Law,
Did you get a letter then?

[ash_sx125]

It's usually the ones uploading the files in the first place that get caught.

[Chico999]

yeah there seems to be alot of them going around... I think i will be quieting down for a while

Good call mate

Tbh i think the fines would come from the BPI

Whats BPI?

[VTS_86]

How much was the fine for?

[Chico999]

£500

£1000 if i dont pay in seven days

Absolute joke

[Bound]

Bit torrent

Scooter, jumping all over the world - Never heard it in my life.

I 100% didn't download it

Download it now to listen too it :D.

I meant the company :p.

They say they have their precedent with this woman who was found 'guilty' (she didn't turn up).

They can never prove it was you, because you could have friends round downloading on your connection, your wireless could of been used by someone else, your wireless could of been hacked even if it's protected.

Like you said, they send out a bunch of letters, scaring people with legal jargon, saying if you don't pay the £500 then they will take you to court etc.

Problem is.. by paying, you admit liability.

They will not take you too court, they can't afford it, if everyone keeps saying no.. They send out thousands of these letters.

Plus they've been getting bad press lately for targeting couples like, elderly couples that don't even have internet, people that have been living in different countries when it 100% could not have been them etc.

my advice is too ignore it, or, if you want to be argumentative, write a letter back telling them you want to go to court because it wasn't you, and claim damages, whatever.

[Liam_]

Worth a read:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081211/0224403086.shtml

[smittytom]

£500

£1000 if i dont pay in seven days

Absolute joke

BPI = The British Recorded Music Industry,
I would ring the number or something and inquire about it

[Matto]

I had a letter from my ISP. Not about downloading music but I was going to get fined because someone was using my computer as a 'host' or something to send virus'. They told me to download their anti virus software and run it. Never heard anything again from them.
But anyway, my point is you will probably get a warning letter first from your ISP.

[dj_russell]

yea you can get fined and the latest ones to cut you off ill carry on ignoring it, there will be no point having the internet if they carry on and what are they going to do turn everyones internet off everyones at it, the providers will make no money then when theyve switched off 90% and are they going to lock us all up downloading oh well youll probably get longer than a rapist aswell.

[Carlvtr88]

The case stands that your network provider can ( and this happened to my friend ) warn you about your downloading actions before you get any form of a fine... the chances of you getting caught and fined for a downloading few things are minimal.. think about it, you got billions of people world wide...all doing the same thing.

yeah russel lol,...u get thrown in the slammer... and you would say to a guy, what you in here for ? .. his reply, I murdered and raped a woman...he says what about you ? .. i downloaded district 9 and watched it before release lol... ooh naughty you ! Now bend over ! lol ....

that should be the new piracy tv advert

[b0t13]

its a load of shit mate, ignore the letter and deffo dont reply as its probally one of 10000's theyve sent out hoping some1 will pay up, by replying they know uve got it and it makes u more exposed,

send me a reduced fee of £200 and ill make it go away forever, pm for details.

[Viper]

dont pay it, and report it to the po-lice or something.

needs to be stopped!

[djadzvtr]

i had a letter from a so called solicitors who said i need to pay 698 pound for the download of a game......i rang the number and it did not sound like a solicitors...i said to the guy that it was not me and told him too prove it!!
he said it does not matter if it was you or not as you pay for the connection so it up to you to make sure this does not happen....

I basicaly told the guy that i cannot afford to pay this fine so could he send me out a payment plan,he said yes........i have never heard anything off them since!!!

they just try to use scare tactics!!
scam?? i think so ....just a bunch of chancers imo!!

[pr0xibus]

Must admit getting fines nowadays are pretty common i mind reading back a while that a young lassie got fined for downloading nursery rhymes fined about 8k and the lassie was only about 8 or 9 its fucking ridiculous. Anyway i for one wont stop downloading illegally but im pretty lucky i have an abundance of wireless's next to my house so maybe a few of them got letters lol