MEGA PI**ED OFF!! (locking nuts)

[Spanky]

Hey guys!

Well im not in the slightest bit happy!!

Went out to sort my brakes, went to take off the wheel bolts, 2 came off easy, 2 others wer stuck, HARD!

After 5-10mins on one it inally loosens,

The second is the locking nut, first attempt and bang, slips off, locking nut its fooked, the special shape in it has deformed so now it wont fit!!!

Anyone have any ideas??

They are mc-guard locking nuts, and i CAN send off to get a new key, but that means sending money over to Germany and whats to say it wont just do it again :wall: :wall:

Any other way at all???

Obviously cant get any off the wheels off now, im foaming!!!!

[one_nation04]

may have to drill them out mate?

[Spanky]

not somthing i want to try myself, next to my perfect TD 1.2's

[Ryan]

Mc guard are soft people allways do them up really tight which is when they have problems.

Either smash a socket over it so the socket is wedged on and turn it off that way, (may break the head off if its on to tight) or its big ass drill time.

Just wait and get the new key nut from mcguard, it will be a bit of a mission but alot easyer/cheaper

[Spanky]

will probs give the "smashing a socket on" trick a try tomorow.

If it snaps the heads off it should make it easier to drill though yes??

anyone recomend any TOUGH locking wheel nuts, as these are going to have to go now like!

[Strikevts]

I smashed a socket over all 4 of my locking nuts with no problems, took 10mins max.

[Spanky]

I smashed a socket over all 4 of my locking nuts with no problems, took 10mins max.

what size socket did you use???

would it not kind of start slipping round it, if you get me??

[DaN90]

Get ones with splines on and the socket will work on mcguard worked with mine mate.

[Spanky]

Get ones with splines on and the socket will work on mcguard worked with mine mate.

explain ??

(uber noob here...)

[Ryan]

anyone recomend any TOUGH locking wheel nuts, as these are going to have to go now like!

Just do them up to the correct torque and you wont have problems.

[Spanky]

Just do them up to the correct torque and you wont have problems.

i dont have a torque wrench lol :homme:

Usually just use the long/breaker bar and get them so it stops then giv it a nudge...

Im obviously going to have to get some new locking nuts now, but halfords only seem to have McGuard ones.....

[Ryan]

Then dont use a massive breaker bar to over torque them then.

Simple.

They dont need to be so tight they will never come undone without a huge amount of torque

[Spanky]

o its not massive, just a shortish one, thinks its the 2nd biggest halfords do.

I has learnt my lesson, although i never do them REALLY tight, Sigh.

Sure ill get it sorted, but its going to cost me a new set of lockng nuts, although they are not that expensive from the E Of Bay.

[blackie_2k5]

make sure you put some copper grease on the nuts when you replace them and you wont have this prob next time ;)

[Spanky]

ali will do blackie haha

also this banging a socket on trick, wonti need 4 sockets then as all four will have to come off....

Or can the bolt then be remove from the socket once off???

[gaz4399]

you will be abel to use the same socket providing you have a vice and a hammer and drift to knock the socket off the bolt

[Spanky]

aye, should be able to manage that :y:

what a feck on eh!!

[Strikevts]

Your saving money smashing the sockets out then drilling as u cud damage the alloys or make things even worse then they already are. I think the socket size is a 17 but i cant remember without trying it on mine now.

[gaz4399]

i would also recommend double hex sockets as you get twice as many "teeth" to bite onto the locking wheel nut

[106pug]

get a locking nut removal tool from halfords :y:

and i have some flat faced locking nuts for sale ?

[blackie_2k5]

just bang the socket on mate, make sure its well on and secure before you try removing or you may damgae the nut further along with you alloys with a nice slippage ;)

[saxo_ron]

whats up with brakes?

[Spanky]

well the car is going to go into manics on monday as he has the locking nut removel tools etc so going to have a pop at it there, just a right piss on!!

whats up with brakes?


the pads are nto in correctly, the springs on the top of the pads are sticking through the caliper, and they need to be inside the caliper to jam the pads in place.

At themin the pads are rattling about :n:

Would of been a 10 min job each side if this had not happend :wall:

[Richie2104VTR]

Had exact same issue with my mcgard lockers. Used ye olde smaller socket on and job was done.

[manicmotors]

well the car is going to go into manics on monday as he has the locking nut removel tools etc so going to have a pop at it there, just a right piss on!!




the pads are nto in correctly, the springs on the top of the pads are sticking through the caliper, and they need to be inside the caliper to jam the pads in place.

At themin the pads are rattling about :n:

Would of been a 10 min job each side if this had not happend :wall:

Chill out mate,we should hopefully be able to get them off for you on monday.

id say come along tomorrow but the great north runs on and its a pain for me to get any where near work form where i live.

[Spanky]

well Chris at manics has jst messaged saying he has the tool he used to get the last set of buggerd McGuards off so hopefully should be ok :y:

Wont be buying them again thats for sure! lol

[Spanky]

Chill out mate,we should hopefully be able to get them off for you on monday.

id say come along tomorrow but the great north runs on and its a pain for me to get any where near work form where i live.

aye, monday will do.

Its nothing like serious that needs doing ASAP its sut liek if i get a puncture of somthing im well buggerd lol

Hopefully all will go ok on monday and ill be smiling yet again, knowing another damn saxo problem has been cured :D

[Liam_]

I had this problem with the standard citroen locking nuts. Managed to get 3 out with a large breaker bar, but the last one was stuck solid. My mate fettled the last one by smacking the key onto the locking nut for about 5 mins, then getting a windy gun on it.

Got some Mcgards now... torque them to 85nm/ 62lbft and never had any problems yet.