Evo's top 1- Greatest Cars, R26.r and Trophy

[leeroybrown]

http://www.evo.co.uk/features/features/240343/top_10_greatest_drivers_cars.html

Take a look boys and girls.

2 of the best french hot hatches ever made have popped into the top 10 line up

[Ashleyp]

r26r is the current fastest FWD car round the ring too iirc?

[rushy_23]

Wow! Quite a big statement.

Cant comment as Ive never had the pleasure of driving either.

Is the Trophy that different to the other 172/182s?

[leeroybrown]

Suspension wise yes.

But its basically a cup with fancy suspension

[Garry_T]

i cant wait to get the megan sport in general but a r26r if i could

[sir_dave]

Umm, this was in the magazine last month? Good read though .... made me want a trophy again lol

[rushy_23]

Hmm. Still a lovely car to look at!

[Graeme]

id rather have a cup with recaros :P:P:P

[titchster]

Sach's remote resevoir dampers. Over £1k a corner (£1265 precisely). The same units as used on the 07/08 SEAT BTCC cars.

sir_dave - Yeah, it was in last months.

[rushy_23]

Holy smoke! I wouldnt want one of them to break.

[leeroybrown]

Its about 500 to 600 for a rebuild on the front for seals etc, its not that much really

[jinjan]

trophy is a brill car, handles really well.

[Mike_08]

Can't wait to get my new 182 :y:

[leeroybrown]

They are fun believe me

[Mike_08]

172 to 20vT to 182 :y: Much more fun cars

[Jamie]

Id rather a Focus RS than an R26R

[Vinny_VSX]

Sach's remote resevoir dampers. Over £1k a corner (£1265 precisely). The same units as used on the 07/08 SEAT BTCC cars.

sir_dave - Yeah, it was in last months.

Now I didn't think they were that expensive. Infact, there is a guy where I study at castle combe who removed the sach suspension for some kw (I believe) coilovers. I called him a fool when he first said, but he is even more of a plonker now. He does have itb's though :wink:

[leeroybrown]

Id rather a Focus RS than an R26R

One day you will admit the French do the better hot hatch you crazy Ford Fool:homme:

[Cal]

Id rather a Focus RS than an R26RJay likes men

[sir_dave]

Infact, there is a guy where I study at castle combe who removed the sach suspension for some kw (I believe) coilovers. I called him a fool when he first said, but he is even more of a plonker now.

Not really, the Sachs are still a road damper, if he has KW V3 for example they are fully adjustable for both bump/rebound/camber, etc - potentially a better setup for track ;)

Yes, the Sachs can still be unpinned, but you still dont have the finite adjustability of the KW's ...

[Mike_08]

Jay likes men

Lolza :y:

[jimbo06]

cool, trophy's are awesome! would love to have a go/be taken out in an r26r i must say...defo prefer them over a focus rs too

[Jamie]

One day you will admit the French do the better hot hatch you crazy Ford Fool:homme:

Lmao. I like French hot hatches but no way will i ever prefer a Megane to a Focus RS/ST.

Its just a stripped out megane sport with a cage haha.. how many megan sport owners have made there very own R26R by taking out there seats lol

cheeRS lol.

Jay likes men

one in particular x

[titchster]

cool, trophy's are awesome! would love to have a go/be taken out in an r26r i must say...defo prefer them over a focus rs too
Should be getting a ride in one on track v soon. :panic:


Its just a stripped out megane sport with a cage haha.. how many megan sport owners have made there very own R26R by taking out there seats lol

Is that before, or after the suspension mods to the R are mentioned? ;)

[Jamie]

Should be getting a ride in one on track v soon. :panic:


Is that before, or after the suspension mods to the R are mentioned? ;)

Lol regardless i still think people that buy these are nuts especially if they dont track them. Most hot hatches wont be taken to their limits by drivers anyway.

That doesnt mean to say i think its shite, just pointless unless used for what its for purpose. Tracking. I think you'l agree its not a practical car lol.

Same with the Cat7 in the vid great for tracking and occasional country roads but otherwise pointless.

However

The Focus RS does all & sounds alot better!

[leeroybrown]

Ha Just buy a Mountune-fettled Focus ST

Just as good

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/237880/ford_focus_st_mountune_and_focus_rs.html

[Jamie]

Yep, one of the last things i did in my ST was stopped a new RS getting pass me when a 500+ bhp evo was up its ass lol (i was being a bastard) but new he wouldnt race.

BUT LEE BUT

Get DS on the RS and it will rip ANY ST that hasnt had turbo upgrade a new asswholeeeee

I will own an RS, unless im silly rich and decide to get a Ferrari hahaa

[leeroybrown]

Once you stop it from spining the front wheels maybe

[Matts-VTR]

I choose light and precision engineered (the megane BTW) that handles AND has ample power for anything any of us would use one for..

anyday over big fat but with a monstrous engine / turbo for plenty of grunt.

Kinda like comparing a ballet dancer to a drunken overweight liverpudlian bloke.

[Karl]

Trophy Powah.

[Jamie]

Well they do have LSD, so cornering you can get power down.

& i never had a problem nailing my 280+ to the floor and moving quick:)

Although a simple map on a RS is 350+ lol

GOD I NEED ONE.

[leeroybrown]

Traction control kicking in killing the powerrrrrrrrrrr

As a piece of engineering the megane is pretty awesome along with the trophy

[Karl]

who wants to buy a trophy?

need some JDM.

[Jamie]

Traction control kicking in killing the powerrrrrrrrrrr

As a piece of engineering the megane is pretty awesome along with the trophy


Lol i never had TC on

I agree the Megane is good. Would be interesting to see what Ford could come up with to compete.

A stripped RS lol x

[titchster]

I like the quote on the front of Evo about the new Megane...

Something like 'In the straights the Megane happily keeps up with the RS'.

Just like the R could. w00t.

[Jamie]

I find that hard to believe i pwnd a megane r26R in my 280.3 BHP ST never tried corners but obs the car would pwn me then.

[Ryan]

Not a honda in the top 10, that will upset the vtec owners :D

[Ryan]

who wants to buy a trophy?

need some JDM.

You need your head seeing to more like.:homme:

[Karl]

You need your head seeing to more like.:homme:

lol. :panic: Cant help it, even bought a Jap Car mag yesterday.

[Ryan]

lol. :panic: Cant help it, even bought a Jap Car mag yesterday.

:geek:

[titchster]

I find that hard to believe i pwnd a megane r26R in my 280.3 BHP ST never tried corners but obs the car would pwn me then.

Taken from EVO:

By return I was equally struck that the R26.R in my mirrors was losing no ground down the straights, where I’d thought its 73bhp and 95lb ft disadvantage would drop it back. The only time the gap lengthened was under the trees where the road was damp and the Mégane’s (optional) near-slick Toyos gave Roger a couple of heart-stopping moments.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/234169/ford_focus_rs_v_renaultsport_megane_r26r.html

[Jamie]

Well maybe that was an RS with a slow engine.

You get good and bad engines. I find it hard to believe whatever the power to weight lol

[KamRacing]

The focus RS is nothing special other than having lots of power.
The Megane had the 'revoknuckle' long before ford marketed it...

[Ryan]

Well maybe that was an RS with a slow engine.

You get good and bad engines. I find it hard to believe whatever the power to weight lol

you think that the press test cars they will release a bad car for every review (seeing as 95% of them say the r26r is a much better package than the RS). :fcuk:

[Jamie]

Im going to get pwnnnnddddddd

Lots of power = win lol

RS weight - 1467 kg - BHP 300 but 315 isnt unheard of lol
R26R weight - 1230 kg - BHP - 230

Im not a mathmatician but whats the power to weight for both cars, just fatory figres.

I like the RS better as a complete car and im sure if you removed shit you didnt need and put plastic windows and flimsy bumpers on and an eibach pro kit it would enhiliate an R26R..

But then you could argue what if the r26R was 300bhp or does it have the balance to a T not to much power great handling lol

[leeroybrown]

Jamie just admitt defeat!

[titchster]

RS has got about 20bhp/ton more, but as Ryan said, all the reviews seem to say the Megane keeps up.

And thankfully, someone who sees both sides to the 'strip out the RS' arguement, everyone else seems to miss the 'give the Megane 300bhp' part.

[Ryan]

I like fords (well some)

But several well respected reviewers all stating the r26r is better and the ford boys all look for excuses and cant admit it....

Ford released the RS as it is, as did renault.

[Ryan]

RS has got about 20bhp/ton more, but as Ryan said, all the reviews seem to say the Megane keeps up.


Everyone will look at power/power to weight and ignore gear ratios, traction etc....

[Jamie]

Id still sooner have one.

lol x

[leeroybrown]

Mind you I prefered glass windows to plastic ones

[titchster]

Straight line when you're rolling, traction won't really be any different in fairness.

Obviously ratios etc are gonna matter, but the RS is still got 20bhp/ton up.



Plastic windows are harder to break than glass ftw.

[hellovts]

im with jamie - rather focus RS than some stripped megane lol ...

to own and drive everyday etc RS > renault

[Jamie]

http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_604/car_photo_302217_7.jpg

http://www.dieselstation.com/pics/Renault-Megane-R26-R-car-wallpaper.jpg

Both nice but only one for me..

have i ruined this thread lol

[Chuffy]

Ford Sports Ka - number 37????

[Ryan]

IMO the new Rs looks like a max power incarnation.

I much prefer the styling of the mk1 RS focus

[KamRacing]

last time I drove in a long straight line i was bored crapless on the motorway. I'd rather sit in luxury and i'd buy a bmw for that sort of driving.
Fun roads have bends where a good chassis is vital and so the renault excels.
The whole point is these are two cars straight out the factory as the manufacturers intended.
Saying that I would rather have an Escort cosworth - no doubt slower than both but its rather cool.

[Jamie]

IMO the new Rs looks like a max power incarnation.

I much prefer the styling of the mk1 RS focus

No more than that R26R at least its nearly all one colour lol!

Mk1 is good but id sooner be in the newer one anyday!

[Cal]

All I ever see driving the new Focus RS' are midlife crisis men with it in the green colour and a personal plate lol.

Quite a few round here...

[Jamie]

All I ever see driving the new Focus RS' are midlife crisis men with it in the green colour and a personal plate lol.

Quite a few round here...

Id like to join them, although im not mid life.

Trouble is, its price 25Gsss second hand on PH

True about the plates tho lol, ive seen so many starting RS09 *** FUN ** ect

[Ashleyp]

r26 will be the better drivers car as its more orientated for that? with r888's as an option from factory iirc?

the RS is just bulky, with more "normal road features" as opposed to just a tuned track car.

for those who find the r26r too hardcore, the r26 is a day to day car with a lot of the r26r's features

[furiomike]

All I ever see driving the new Focus RS' are midlife crisis men with it in the green colour and a personal plate lol.

Quite a few round here...
Yep your right. It looks like a car for 20-something year old's, but not many people in there twenties can afford one so it ends being a mid-life crisis machine.

[Jamie]

So there we have it the RS wins.

haha.

R26R is a better track car.

Im over the fact its very close between the R26R and RS on track even though the RS has 70bhp more, i doubt the R26R is any better a driver car if theres little between them.

/runs

[leeroybrown]

Both wank tbh

Ya all need a saxo vts lurrrrrk!

[Jamie]

Or a fiesta Zetec SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Toad]

I'm with Jamie. One car was aimed as a track toy, the other not. It's not really very fair using track results as the decider. Yes Kam, I know you didn't. :P

The RS looks stunning. Having seen both cars a few times, I think the RS wins hands down as far as looks go. If I had to buy one or the other, I wouldn't even have to think about it. :)

[Ferg]

R26.R
FRS MkII

Both awesome cars.

Trophy vs 172/182
Felt TOTALLY different to drive, much preferred the Trophy.

+1 Karl ~ Get that French Shed sold and some nice JDM in your life.

[leeroybrown]

To be honest Ferg is the next thing I will be looking at

Or

Chopping in my clio for a trophy

[Ferg]

Big price difference,

But yeah, R26.R & Trophy are good cars.